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Mr. Nerfect 09-07-2009 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 2707421)
Exactly. Why not change the name to Armageddon: TLC, and then the next year have Armageddon: Hell in a Cell? Switch it up every year to keep it fresh and unpredictable.

That's what I'd rather they do. Unforgiven: Breaking Point could have been cool, but BP really isn't a bad PPV name. Especially considering how they are talking up where wrestlers "breaking points" are. Unforgiven was just sort of there.

If they wanted to change the name of Armageddon, I would have much rather they bring Starrcade back. I might actually order a PPV because it is called such. If they do Elimination Matches at Survivor Series, they could lead that directly into a War Games match at Starrcade. I would actually be interested to see, say, Legacy & Big Show vs. D-Generation X, John Cena & MVP in a War Games match.

On the RAW side this year, with the event being in San Antonio, Shawn Michaels seems like he would be a good fit for the TLC Match. Randy Orton and John Cena have also been in TLC Matches in the past. I could definitely see a Four-Way between Orton, Cena, HBK and Triple H.

Rammsteinmad 09-07-2009 04:29 AM

When was Orton in a TLC match?

Londoner 09-07-2009 05:11 AM

Yeah, don't rememebr orton in a TLC.

mike adamle 09-07-2009 05:35 AM

He wasn't, one of the few mistakes of Noid, I think he's probably thinking of the MITB match Orton was in.

Sixx 09-07-2009 08:33 AM

I want Khali vs Mark Henry in a TLC.

Hornswoggle would be interesting as well.

Mr. Nerfect 09-07-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 2707805)
He wasn't, one of the few mistakes of Noid, I think he's probably thinking of the MITB match Orton was in.

Yeah, I was half-asleep when I wrote that. I just meant general Ladder Matches. I mean, TLC isn't much different, if at all.

Executioner 09-07-2009 10:03 AM

I really don't see any point to these gimmick PPVs, we already have Extreme Rules but Vince is just buring the Cell, TLC, and submission matches by having a PPV dedicated to the.

TNA, sadly only has 2 PPV IIRC that have a gimmick match(s) attached to them. Lockdown and Destination X. Although TNA does have 2 to 3 gimmick matches per PPV anyway.

But WWEs PPV schedule pretty much has a gimmick to every one....

Royal Rumble- Obvious
No Way Out- Elimination Chamber
Wrestlemania- MITB and the Rumble Winner's Title Match
Backlash- Rematches from WM (not technically a gimmick match)
Judgment Day- None
Extreme Rules- All gimmick matches
The Bash- None
Night of Champions- All title matches
Summerslam- None (usually big name returns but no actual gimmick matches)
Breaking Point- Submission matches (Tap-out, I Quit, Ultimate)
Hell In a Cell- Obvious
Bragging Rights- Interactive PPV
Survivor Series- Obvious
Armageddon/TLC- Well fuck this if this TLC event happens.

So out of 14 PPV, 10 of them (not counting Backlash or SS since there are no technical gimmick matches) have a gimmick attached to them.

I know that list has been posted alot but it bears repeating.

Londoner 09-07-2009 10:06 AM

And despite all these gimmick matches, i bet we don't see any blood!! If no one bleeds in hell in the cell, you may aswell not have the match at all, same with the EC.

Sixx 09-07-2009 10:19 AM

A few years from now there'll probably a Viagra On a Pole PPV.

I think the "Bragging Rights" name suits it just fine.

PorkSoda 09-07-2009 10:41 AM

Might as well call the PPV: TLC: Tables. Latters. Chairs. OMG PWNAGEZEZ!!!!

Londoner 09-07-2009 10:42 AM

Wonder if we'll get a ppv called 'CENA WINS'

Also, is this another new era vince wants to create? the gimmick-ppv match era?

Savio 09-07-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2707043)
Any Raw main event has to include one or more of Orton, Cena, Triple H, or HBK. Who's gonna be willing to do a TLC match?

They have all been in some brutal matches.

Savio 09-07-2009 01:28 PM

Extreme Rules should be the only "every match has a gimmick" PPV

Boondock Saint 09-09-2009 03:08 PM

WWE.com list this as November's PPV now...meaning they got rid of Survivor Series apparently, wtf?

Xero 09-09-2009 03:08 PM

They fixed it.

#1-norm-fan 09-09-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blakeamus (Post 2706821)
Maybe it's there way of using those matches annually, like Hell in a Cell main event matches being used one PPV a year. Instead of having 3-4 Hell in a Cell or TLC matches a year, they can make it mean something one night a year. That is just my opinion.

I partially agree with this.

I'd rather WWE just have kind of an unspoken rule though that each gimmick match only take place once a year with no exact, set time.

#1-norm-fan 09-09-2009 03:20 PM

I miss just having brand-specific PPVs :(

The Jayman 09-09-2009 04:46 PM

I miss spending about $30 -$40 on a ppv and it was actually worth it

Chavo Classic 09-09-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jayman (Post 2712206)
I miss spending about $30 -$40 on a ppv and it was actually worth it

What are you talking about? The last two PPVs, Night of Champions and Summerslam, have been well worth it; the latter probably one of the best in years.

I guess it's easy to criticise...


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