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Testicle 09-25-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2738857)
Sting did it before Bret Hart, yes. One of the older jap guys (Onita, Choshu or somebody like that) invented it

It was Choshu.

Also Owen did it the best, even better than his brother.

Fignuts 09-25-2009 09:14 PM

Loose Cannon

Vastardikai 09-25-2009 09:19 PM

Bret, Owen, Sting

In that order.

The MAC 09-26-2009 01:37 AM

Bret says in his book that sting was using the move long before him . Rock and sting(these days) dont even sit on the opponent. Bret used to sit right back and it look like he was about to break the opponents back. Oh, look at that shawn oic on the previous page- he looks like a fag.

Rammsteinmad 09-26-2009 02:34 AM

Bret Hart.

I've always liked this move more as the 'Scorpion Death Lock', but Bret's execution of it was beautiful.

The Rock's on the other hand, was awful. :nono:

Mogadishu 09-26-2009 02:38 AM

Bret...followed closely by his late great brother Owen. After those two, there is a mile gap between whoever is #3.

Austin and Benoit, as someone already pointed out, made the sharpshooter look less legitimate when they executed it. Although I am a huge mark for The Rock, my opinion of his version of the sharpshooter is the same as my opinion of his version of the Stunner; goofy.

DrCrawford 09-26-2009 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mogadishu (Post 2739266)
Bret...followed closely by his late great brother Owen. After those two, there is a mile gap between whoever is #3.

Austin and Benoit, as someone already pointed out, made the sharpshooter look less legitimate when they executed it. Although I am a huge mark for The Rock, my opinion of his version of the sharpshooter is the same as my opinion of his version of the Stunner; goofy.

i agree 100%

Skippord 09-26-2009 03:39 AM

Sting

fuck you I love Sting

Skippord 09-26-2009 03:40 AM

Also that Edge video seems to be of the Edgucator or whatever the fuck he called it

Triple Naitch 09-26-2009 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 2739300)
Also that Edge video seems to be of the Edgucator or whatever the fuck he called it

Yeah, wikipedia has the Edgucator listed as a modified sharpshooter so I included it.

Skippord 09-26-2009 09:24 AM

oh alright then

he does use a non modified one now though

Anybody Thrilla 09-26-2009 12:09 PM

Anyone who voted for The Rock and was serious about it needs to be shot.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-26-2009 01:14 PM

I love the Rock and think he was a great worker and showmen... but easily the worst sharpshooter ever.

Anybody Thrilla 09-26-2009 01:16 PM

Yeah, I feel the same way.

Theo Dious 09-26-2009 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Show Off (Post 2739049)
I'd blame Hulk Hogan for how bad Shawn Michaels' Sharpshooter is, his legs are just so damn stiff.

Thank you. Not only does Hogan have stiff and thick legs to begin with, in recent years he hasn't been known for being the most cooperative fellow. The Sharpshooter he put on Benoit at the Backlash following WM20 was much better done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Show Off (Post 2739049)
That and since when is Shawn Michaels ever called "The Amazing" Shawn Michaels, what is he a fucking magician? I know the creator of the video is being sarcastic and is actually making a dig at HBK but why would he put amazing in quotes, and not Showstopper or something.

You're asking for sense from a drooling Hart mark?

JT 09-26-2009 02:47 PM

I forgot who said this (it was someone from here a few years back), but my favorite description of The Rock doing the Sharpshooter was, "It looks like he's taking a crap in the woods."

Kami Raki 09-26-2009 05:51 PM

Bret. But Konnan taught him how to apply it so....

Loose Cannon 09-26-2009 06:04 PM

I don't understand how you fuck up that move. it's very easy to apply to someone. I guess maybe because Rock was a bit taller, it was harder for him.

Favre4Ever 09-26-2009 06:18 PM

The best thing about the Rock's Sharpshooter was the bowel movement face.

Jura 09-27-2009 12:07 AM

Should really be Which Do You Like Better? Bret's Sharpshooter or Sting's Scorpion Deathlock. Owen, Sting and Benoit's look really similar if not exactly the same. They are different height and build so there maybe be little differences. The other versions are an abomination.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7217/21ua3.jpg
http://whitewatch.files.wordpress.co...le-posters.jpg
http://www.retrojunk.com/img/art-ima...arpshooter.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...arpshooter.jpg
http://fast1.onesite.com/fans.wwe.co...jtp7/jpg96.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...nt095/bret.jpg

http://gamesareevil.com/wp-content/u...oter-thumb.jpg

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Emperor Smeat 09-27-2009 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jura (Post 2740297)

Always amazed when I see the video or picture of Bret pulling that move on Austin and how he never messed up and break Austin's leg.

Bret had the best looking sharpshooter but I always liked the taunt Owen would do with his sharpshooter. The Rock's version is always worth a :lol: but also seems to have occurred around same time WWE began pushing away from submissions as legit match enders and more as a regular move or easily broken.

Triple Naitch 09-27-2009 12:06 PM

1. Isn't that a video game?
2. I remember the announcers referring to that move as a figure four.

Anybody Thrilla 09-27-2009 12:14 PM

Triple Naitch is right on both counts.

Jura 09-27-2009 03:00 PM

It was just thrown in for awesomeness. It's in the second vid at 2:40.

Sovereigntywillpr 09-27-2009 03:24 PM

bret stole it from owen, it was his hold...ha

Nark Order 09-27-2009 03:33 PM

Chris Benoit is the greatest Canadian wrestler to ever live.

/bait

CSL 09-27-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 2740457)
Always amazed when I see the video or picture of Bret pulling that move on Austin and how he never messed up and break Austin's leg.

Bret is the only one in danger doing the post figure-four. The guy taking it has to hold the 'givers' foot for it to 1. Work and 2. Stop him from having his bodyweight fall on his neck

Verbose Minch 09-27-2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2741041)
Chris Benoit is the greatest Canadian wrestler to ever live.

/bait

I love both Bret and Chris, but I did like Chris more. YOU SHALL NOT BAIT ME

The Gold Standard 09-27-2009 09:55 PM

Bret Hart 100%

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...nt095/bret.jpg

Nark Order 09-27-2009 10:19 PM

I think Shawn's sharpshooter was by far the most effective though. Bret was out for like 10 years after that. Cried almost everyday because of it too. I would not want to be on the recieving end of a Shawn Michaels sharpshooter.

Emperor Smeat 09-27-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 2740842)
1. Isn't that a video game?
2. I remember the announcers referring to that move as a figure four.

Yeah its from a video game but based on a real life move Bret did a few times. Didn't mean to imply that was a sharpshooter but more of how amazing it was Bret never accidentally harmed anyone with it.

Savio 09-28-2009 12:30 PM

I went with the rock because he is the man


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