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Blakeamus 02-05-2010 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2927030)
EAT SHIT AND DIE. YOU LOOK LIKE CRAP. YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD THAT YOU HAVE WASTED YOUR ENTIRE LIFE.
whoa...:'(

BigDaddyCool 02-05-2010 07:54 PM
Loser, you are crying because someone made fun of you on the internets?

Blakeamus 02-05-2010 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2927045)
Loser, you are crying because someone made fun of you on the internets?
It was actually sarcasm but if it makes you feel like you accomplished something, go ahead and soak it up.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-05-2010 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2927020)
The WWE crowd knows who people like HBK and Lawler are. We know their style and we know they're legends, so even if all Lawler does is throw some fists he's able to get the crowd going before he's even stepped into the ring. I'm wondering if a guy just coming up today be it in the indies or even starting in the WWE, dropped that same fist or wrestled a Lawler type of match would he get over? Or do you need to be part of the X-Division now?

This kind of goes along with what Cornette said about hardcore and what Dale is saying about timeless wresting. To a certain degree, all the no-selling, supermoves, and false finishes comes back to haunt you. The crowd will expect more and more and you can only do so much.
Look at CM Punk tho. The crowd eats his shit up, and back when he was in ROH he had a way bigger moveset, but now he has his own unique style of offense, and it's pretty basic, and the crowd is into everything he does.

Same with Orton (even though he can be a little boring).

If you have a certain "Something" the crowd is going to react to what you do, especially if you do it well.

Juan 02-05-2010 08:08 PM
Look at big bad BDC picking on the noobs.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-05-2010 08:14 PM
lol yeah he's pretty hardcore.

thedamndest 02-05-2010 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 2927064)
Look at CM Punk tho. The crowd eats his shit up, and back when he was in ROH he had a way bigger moveset, but now he has his own unique style of offense, and it's pretty basic, and the crowd is into everything he does.

Same with Orton (even though he can be a little boring).

If you have a certain "Something" the crowd is going to react to what you do, especially if you do it well.
That's definitely the key. Look at early Rock. He's all over the place doing high-flying stuff and nobody cared because he was just another guy. Then he developed his moveset to his heel personality a little bit and it all made a lot more sense.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-05-2010 08:20 PM
Timing is a huge issue I think. You need to know the right time to hit a move to make the crowd react.

CSL 02-05-2010 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2926994)
TBF, when Bret and Shawn were coming up it was a much different time than it is in the Indy's now. Can you even get over without doing a Canadian Destroyer, Tarantula, 450, and a Burning Hammer in the same match? I don't know what the scene is like at all.
In 95% of the places, absoloutely. The only places that you need to do all that bollocks to get a reaction is usually in front of a mostly smart crowd. They aren't too common though. Storytelling is still 100% the way to go.

Blakeamus 02-05-2010 09:45 PM
I've posted a vid of a match I had almost two years ago...and I will post a vid from a show I did two saturdays ago once I get a hold of it in the next day or two. You can compare the two.

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Blakeamus 02-05-2010 09:46 PM
Excuse the audio...it was real crappy...

Nark Order 02-05-2010 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 2926990)
lol thankyou the one. Just because I was giving you advice doesn't mean I thought you sucked. But there's a reason you're an indy worker noone has ever heard of.
Just because I was giving you advice doesn't mean I thought you sucked. BUT YOU SUCK!!

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-05-2010 10:01 PM
You can def work no doubt. Just work on making every move mean something as opposed to transitions to other moves.

You may be better now so I'll judge when I see it. However there was a forearm you threw that was just like "may as well do this for filler" like it looked completely pointless. Also try come across as less of a mark when you throw that kick to the back. hahaha you looked like you were about to start chanting for yourself when you were about to throw it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-05-2010 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2927204)
Just because I was giving you advice doesn't mean I thought you sucked. BUT YOU SUCK!!
Not what I was saying at all dingus.

Nark Order 02-05-2010 10:04 PM
If I compliment someone while punching them in the face, that kind of negates the compliment.

Blakeamus 02-05-2010 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 2927205)
You can def work no doubt. Just work on making every move mean something as opposed to transitions to other moves.

You may be better now so I'll judge when I see it. However there was a forearm you threw that was just like "may as well do this for filler" like it looked completely pointless. Also try come across as less of a mark when you throw that kick to the back. hahaha you looked like you were about to start chanting for yourself when you were about to throw it.
I was actually taunting him right there...and I noticed on that forearm too. It just looked weak.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-06-2010 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2927209)
If I compliment someone while punching them in the face, that kind of negates the compliment.
It's called constructive criticism. He can work but he has a ways to go, that's all I was saying.

fuckin fat kapoutman.


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