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Juan 02-15-2010 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 2939518)
This thread is horrible.

Heyman 02-15-2010 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2939625)
He banished him from the WWE at one point. I'd consider that a pretty impressive win, considering the WWE fans expect The Undertaker to always come out on top regardless of how much someone cheats.
Banishing someone from the WWE doesn't mean anything....just as it meant nothing when The Rock through Austin over a bridge.

The ONLY way to TRULY get a guy to the next level, is via clean and convincing victory.

-Austin beating Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania 14
-Triple H beating Foley 3 consecutive times in 1999/00
-Batista defeating Triple H 3 consecutive times in 2005
-Lesnar defeating The Rock cleanly in the Summer of 2002
-Goldberg beating Hogan at the Bash in 1998
-The Rock beating Austin at Wrestlemania 19
-John Cena beating Triple H at Wrestlemania 22.

THESE are all victories that MEAN something since it's CONVINCING.

Roll up victories, interference-in-match type victories, and other forms of FLUKEY and/or NON-convincing victories, do not much for the wrestler. All it basically does is either pro-long an angle, or make that guy a transitional champ. Period.

-This is one reason why JBL never truly established himself as a *real* main-event guy despite having such a long world title reign.

-This is why Chris Jericho never really established himself as a true top-tier main-eventer despite having "victories" over guys like The Rock and Austin (I put "victories" in quotation for a reason).

-This is Kurt Angle was not taken seriously as a main-eventer in 00', but started to be taken a little more seriously in 01' when he beat Austin CLEANLY (although the WWE shit the bed with Angle right after this unfortunately). However - when Angle beat Lesnar and Show in a triple threat match CLEANLY....and then defeated Lesnar CLEANLY at Summerslam that year, this is how Angle finally started to become pegged as a LEGIT top-tier guy in the WWE.

It's unfortunate, but that's how things work. Kofi Kingston beating Orton with a roll-up doesn't do shit........just as Cody Rhodes beating Orton with a roll-up doesn't do shit.

CSL 02-15-2010 06:10 PM
I disagree. All of those guys have 'it' and with enough of a push, they'd have gotten over huge at some point no matter what. And Rock was on 'the next level' a long time before that Austin match.

BigDaddyCool 02-15-2010 06:12 PM
Jericho isn't top level because of the reasons Heyman pointed out. Jericho has never beat top level guys on his own.

James Steele 02-15-2010 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by legendkillerRKO (Post 2939520)
if you go by rings...then trent dilfer is better than dan marino...this argument fails
Of course! Comparing a one-time Super Bowl winning QB vs a Hall of Fame QB is the same as Emmitt Smith who has more rushing yards than anyone to ever play professional football and 3 SuperBowl rings.

Heyman 02-15-2010 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 2939838)
I disagree. All of those guys have 'it' and with enough of a push, they'd have gotten over huge at some point no matter what. And Rock was on 'the next level' a long time before that Austin match.
You're missing my point. I'm not debating whether all of those guys have(had) it, or wouldn't have benefited from a push. What I am saying however, is that a big and CLEAN/CONVINCING victory over a top-tier guy really helps....and is something that the WWE, for whatever reason, hasn't really done over the past few years.

-What if Austin had never beaten a guy like Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania 14? (or it was done with some kind of gay roll up). What about if Goldberg got some flukey over Hogan at the Bash?

Yeah sure - both men would have still gotten over huge, but not to same extent. At SOME point, if you really want to get someone to that next level, a clean and convincing victory over a 'top guy' is needed....just as The Rock did when he beat Mankind on more than one occassion.

VSG 02-15-2010 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 2939156)
Is this TNA?
Not with Lemmy in there, maybe a midi version of their King of Kings!

Heyman 02-15-2010 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2939841)
Jericho isn't top level because of the reasons Heyman pointed out. Jericho has never beat top level guys on his own.
Jericho is/was one of the most mis-used guys in WWE history. The guy could have *easily* been one of the biggest draws in WWE history.

-The WWE completely shit the bed with Jericho when they DIDN'T give him that World title victory over Triple H back in 2000 (you know....the match that 'technically never happened'?).

Even during the Jericho/Benoit feud from 2000, the WWE completely mishandleded Jericho. Instead of using Benoit to help Jericho get to the next level (i.e. Jericho getting clean and convincing victories over Benoit), the WWE instead did the opposite. They used Jericho's charisma and overness to help get Benoit over. As result, Benoit almost always beat Jericho convincingly whenever they fought, while Jericho's victories over Benoit were almost always more flukey by nature (and Jericho was the face!).

Out of Angle, Benoit, and Jericho, Jericho should have been made to look the most superior. Instead however, Jericho was made to look the weakest out of the 3 men.

The pecking order went Angle-Benoit-Jericho, when it should have been Jericho-Angle-Benoit.

BigDaddyCool 02-15-2010 07:15 PM
Jericho and Benoit are both over rated and had a tendancy to phone things in and coast.

St. Jimmy 02-15-2010 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2938925)
Dear WWE,

I want to thank you for giving this world "The King of Kings" Triple H. I do not know what my life would be like had Triple H never impacted it like he has. His passion for professional wrestling and the World Heavyweight Championship have made me yearn for my dreams with such fervor. I remember when I became a disciple of Triple H. The night after WrestleMania XIV, Shawn Michaels was out of the WWF, and Triple H assumed control of D-Generation X. He then said how you must look for your blood...you must look to the KLIQ. I knew at that moment, that like me, Triple H was loyal to his friends and destructive to his enemies.

I remember looking on in awe as Triple H began his meteoric rise to the top of WWF and all of professional wrestling. He has ended careers, broken Jim Ross' arms, fucked a corpse, and buried jobbers all in the name of living his dream...being the best in the world at what he does. I can only hope, I too, can do the same for my dreams. The entire world can use Triple H as a guiding light in our quests for immortality and understanding our life's meaning.

I remember fondly when Triple H returned in 2002 after a career-threatening tear of his quadriceps muscle. The electricity in the air on Monday, January 7, 2002 was awe-inspiring. I felt the vibrations of Madison Square Garden through my television screen. The tears rolled down my cheek as Triple H returned on top of the world and for a moment forever frozen in time, Triple H was the king of the world. He overcame the odds, and he refused to accept defeat. He fought back from the bring of death to recapture his dream and the magic of his career. Triple H went on to the hottest streak of his career from 2002 until 2005. Then, in January of 2007, at the New Years Revolution event, Triple H tore his quad again...and with bated breath I waited for months until his return at the SummerSlam event of that year. Truly, Triple H refuses to be stopped until he completes his mission. That mission is to live a full life and have a historic and happy career. I too have made this my mission. Just like Triple H is a 13-time World Heavyweight Champion, Triple H wants us to find it within ourselves to be at our very best all the time. We must dig deep within ourselves to find what makes us better than everybody else and use that to propel us past our wildest dreams!

Triple H is not only "The Game". Triple H is not only "The King of Kings". Triple H is not only "that damn good". Triple H is not only "my hero". No, Triple H is something words can't describe. The only way for you and the world to understand Triple H is to watch him with the most focus you can give him...then maybe you can understand why he has exceeded perfection and exceeded immortality. Maybe we can all understand why and how Triple H is...Triple H.

Sincerely,
 James Emmitt Steele

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This just needed a repost.

DAMN iNATOR 02-15-2010 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 2939531)
Dear WWE,
Why isn't Haystacks Calhoun in the WWE Hall of Fame already? He's an unsung hero that has earned his time in the spotlight and the credit for what he has done in the industry. The gimmick he used was used by Hillbilly Jim, and his booking style to get him over was used by Andre the Giant. He paved the way for other people in the WWE Hall of Fame.
I'm not saying he's a top tier Hall of Fame inductee. But come on, you guys put Chris Von Erich in the Hall of Fame with his family. Did Chris really do anything to the wrestling world? No. Haystacks, however, impacted pro wrestling. The ripple effect he caused is still felt today.
Aside from his booking style and his gimmick, Haystacks did plenty of work with a struggling North Eastern promotion. He was able to draw a lot of fans, and ergo money, to the company that is now World Wrestling Entertainment.
I think it's time we see Haystacks in the Hall of Fame.

Thanks for your time,
Daniel "FourFifty" Crummett
P.S. - Please also consider Happy Humphrey as a future Hall of Famer.

Skippord 02-16-2010 05:50 AM
Dear WWE, if you're holding this letter you already know. The house has been boarded up. The doors. The windows. Everything. We're at the Comfort Inn. Room 112. I love you. Frank

owenbrown 02-16-2010 05:58 AM
lol

ministrychick77 02-16-2010 02:38 PM
Dear WWE,

1) put a shock collar on cole during raw. let fans pay to control the remote for 5 minutes.
2) get rid of this PG crap
3) stop shoving cena down our throats please. he doesn't haz a good flava.. lol
4) teach the "divas" how to wrestle properly. if they can't learn, fire them.
5) striptease match: edge vs orton vs morrison vs miz. down to a thong is fine.
6) hire me as a writer! i can do great things! or as a commentator.
7) give jericho a dvd set finally!
8) have taker sacrifice dx. get them off tv for a while... we need the break.

love, mc77

The One 02-22-2010 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2939621)
Heyman, I love it when you post here, but Tovo never actually said he wanted to see the match at WrestleMania. At least not this year. He just wants to see it happen in general, I take it. If they go Jericho vs. Edge, it makes it so simple to introduce Christian post-Mania, and let that match go on at Backlash, or something. I am so sick of Backlash just being direct Mania rematches.

And to be honest, while I appreciate your theories for trying to get Edge established as a permanent main event presence, I think more at risk are his reactions as a face. Everyone has accepted Edge as a guy who wins World Titles as we likely head into his tenth reign as World Champion. The thing about Edge facing Triple H or The Undertaker is that it splits a crowd -- more likely in favour of one of the more established faces. Edge needs to go over a top heel at Mania. Chris Jericho, CM Punk or Randy Orton are the heels that could garner a great heel reaction and get the fans firmly behind Edge. I think we can rule out Orton, as he is likely set to do something with Legacy. Jericho is the one that Edge has the most history with.
In my dream world; Edge wins and Christian gets MitB at Mania, Jericho cashes in his rematch claus for Backlash, not so fast...Christian says it's time to settle an old score, with both of them. Jericho/Christian/Edge for the World Title @ Backlash. Stretch out the feud, turn it into the angle of '10.

TOVO Fact: Tovo hates a messy desk.

Mr. Nerfect 02-23-2010 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by The One (Post 2951107)
In my dream world; Edge wins and Christian gets MitB at Mania, Jericho cashes in his rematch claus for Backlash, not so fast...Christian says it's time to settle an old score, with both of them. Jericho/Christian/Edge for the World Title @ Backlash. Stretch out the feud, turn it into the angle of '10.

TOVO Fact: Tovo hates a messy desk.
Beautiful, sir. :y:

Those three men feuding over the World Heavyweight Championship would make "must-watch" TV for me.

Mr. Nerfect 02-23-2010 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Heyman (Post 2939832)
Banishing someone from the WWE doesn't mean anything....just as it meant nothing when The Rock through Austin over a bridge.

The ONLY way to TRULY get a guy to the next level, is via clean and convincing victory.

-Austin beating Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania 14
-Triple H beating Foley 3 consecutive times in 1999/00
-Batista defeating Triple H 3 consecutive times in 2005
-Lesnar defeating The Rock cleanly in the Summer of 2002
-Goldberg beating Hogan at the Bash in 1998
-The Rock beating Austin at Wrestlemania 19
-John Cena beating Triple H at Wrestlemania 22.

THESE are all victories that MEAN something since it's CONVINCING.

Roll up victories, interference-in-match type victories, and other forms of FLUKEY and/or NON-convincing victories, do not much for the wrestler. All it basically does is either pro-long an angle, or make that guy a transitional champ. Period.

-This is one reason why JBL never truly established himself as a *real* main-event guy despite having such a long world title reign.

-This is why Chris Jericho never really established himself as a true top-tier main-eventer despite having "victories" over guys like The Rock and Austin (I put "victories" in quotation for a reason).

-This is Kurt Angle was not taken seriously as a main-eventer in 00', but started to be taken a little more seriously in 01' when he beat Austin CLEANLY (although the WWE shit the bed with Angle right after this unfortunately). However - when Angle beat Lesnar and Show in a triple threat match CLEANLY....and then defeated Lesnar CLEANLY at Summerslam that year, this is how Angle finally started to become pegged as a LEGIT top-tier guy in the WWE.

It's unfortunate, but that's how things work. Kofi Kingston beating Orton with a roll-up doesn't do shit........just as Cody Rhodes beating Orton with a roll-up doesn't do shit.
I disagree. It's all about the victories that are made to look important. Granted, clean victories like the ones you mention are the easiest way to do things. But Edge defeating The Undertaker in what would have been "once and for all," if it weren't for Vickie Guerrero getting involved, could be hyped up as a huge career achievement for Edge. Hell, Edge's King of the Ring victory could still be treated as such.

As a face main event player, I would love to see Edge get some clean victories; but the logical opponents for Edge right now are TOP HEELS. Guys that fans will actually want Edge to beat and beat cleanly. Chris Jericho will be first, CM Punk can be second, Randy Orton third. If Shawn Michaels turns heel, then definitely him.

Edge needs to be accepted as a face first before they pull the trigger on huge face vs. face matches and expect them to mean anything.

Sixx 02-23-2010 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ministrychick77 (Post 2941435)
5) striptease match: edge vs orton vs morrison vs miz. down to a thong is fine.
6) hire me as a writer! i can do great things!
You contradict yourself, cat lady.


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