Big E out here losing clean to Seth Rollins on RAW so I think he can be crossed off the WM main-event list

so omos is worse then a mop

yep

Seems like they "actually tried" to make Raw a decent show tonight based on the results... stuff happening, etc.

It’s an absolute delight to see Lesnar cut promos again. Cut deep into Lashley.

smh @ when a bunch of people hated Lesnar and didn't want him on TV a couple of years ago... smfh... The best and most interesting wrestler they have by far

I’m biased. He’s the reason why I started rewatching Smackdown in 2002. Sheer physical charisma like no other :yes:

Don’t have to figure out how to get Doudrop thrown over the top rope if you don’t put her in the Rumble match.

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Otis pinned Orton clean with a body slam. The commentator then proceeded to explain “stunned silence in Philadelphia!!” but of course there’s piped in crowd noise. Classic stuff.

Was just thinking about Orton the other day and how it feels like it has been a long time since the last time he was in the main events/in contention for the world titles.... he used to be one of THE guys.

I guess last time was Wrestlemania 33 in 2017

He was WWE Champion in 2020, beat Drew clean in Hell in the Cell.

Yeah, but who remembers that

I remember. It was a big deal.

I do lol

WHY DIDN’T ANYONE MAKE A THREAD ABOUT ALPHA ACADEMY WINNING THE TAG TITLES?!?!?!

Was wondering when Noid would find out....

Beckys 3d model for her intro is kinda creepy and they need to get rid of it.

Seth v Lashley tonight. I can dig it.

Wait really? On Raw?

Otis pinned Orton

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Wow Doudrop just murdered Becky and Liv.

SEE THROUGH SHIRT!@!! NIP NOPS!@!@ Somebody call RP!

Bobby Lashley is tough!

Orton v Gable is very good tonight.

Omg Veer is coming to RAW you guys!!!!!!!! Stoked.

AJ and Theory putting on a banger too.

sorry, forgot to throw some tweets up acting like i care aboot the product. #wwesucksomg

The fact that there is a literal Disney movie about Veer emigrating from his homeland to try to build his baseball career and it not only has never been mentioned, but he's actively being paid to not show up to his wrestling job for months on end is both sad and hilarious.

Feel like any other promoter from the '30s and on would've given him a lariat as a finisher and be running straight to the bank wanting THE MAN WITH THE MILLION DOLLAR ARM on their posters.

Wait what? The real person behind Veer is one of those fellas? Crazy.

Yep, he was in the Pittsburgh Pirates system. Shame it didn't work out.

It's comical how totally fucking bereft of ideas wwe is, trotting out a scale and getting them to weigh in for no apparent reason. Last time I remember a scale was when big show and akebono were going to have their mania match, and that has to be around 15 years ago at this point.

Do you think it's possible that they are incapable of writing shows in a weeks notice? And so the creative aspect kinda goes out the window and they just recycle shit in the worst of ways?



I wish I could see what WWE's long term plans look like because I have a feeling they dont have any.

This is dumb whenever any company does this, wwe or not. You don't do weigh in for every match, or even every title match, but out of the blue we're going to randomly have one? What?

Adjust the mentality of watching wrasslin to that of Whose Line Is It Anyway.


Welcome to WWE, where everything is made up and none of the titles matter.

feel free to plug in any wrestling promotion there btw, before the WWE fellas get all excited.

Incapable of writing, period.

Same with contract signings, they trot those out on occasion and theyre the most pointless, predictable wastes of time ever. Only one I found amusing was when ambrose started moving stuff in the ring and said we all know where this is going. And do we have these imaginary contracts for every match or are they only fit for title matches when the "creative team" draw a blank on what to do next? Utter shite

Disagree on Lesnar/Lashley weigh in. I have always hated those and contract signings, but they are playing off of both of them being serious MMA fighters and this match being a real fight between them. This is probably the only time (at least in a long time) that a weigh in made sense in any way.

Yeah I’ve got no issue with the weigh-in, or the principle of the contract signing. I always just figured it was “stuff that happened behind the scenes”. How they handle them creatively is another thing.

Bruh when did Rollins start dressing Lashley??? :rofl:

What happened to Lesnar's nose I can't stop looking at it.

Did Brock just say "Cincifuckingnatti?"

Naw it was a freakin lol

Oh shit Brock in his first ever Chamber match

Hahaha that was a really fun opening segement. Babyface Brock is fun, the crow loves it.

that was a good promo

WWE is copying AEW because Brock said "SHIT" which is a huge word on AEW.

I feel like every time I try and watch a bit of Raw, I see something that is decent enough and then it's followed by an A.S.H match ... like just give me two good things in a row.

2 women vince screwed up on there pushes

now we are into the dumb crap

Gable also has a red spot on his nose. Perhaps him an Lesnar were grappling and got some canvas burns.

Could also be some kind of ring worm type flesh eating bacteria or even staph.

poor bliss they need the forbidden door to open rosemary to come out and drag bliss to impact.

Theory v Owens was incredible. Anyone that says otherwise is in a committed sexual relationship with a deformed warthog with the clap.

VEER IS COMING GUYS

just caught the last 15 minutes of the show...Lita vs Becky is a much more interesting feud to me than Becky vs Ronda

Ronda vs Charlotte is the plan, so I assume Bianca or maybe Bayley or Alexa will be in Bex's orbit for Mania

I feel like 'chickenshit heel' Becky doesn't really work, she's sort of off-putting in this gimmick...she works best as 'the underdog'

Is the plan really Ronda v Charlotte..... seems incredibly dumb not to put her vs Becky Lunch.....

saw this comment on reddit lmao:
Lita took one look at how Charlotte sold the twist of fate and went straight to Raw lol

and yeah @ lockjaw, the dirt sheets are reporting Charlotte vs Ronda is the WM match

Didn't they say Ronda was going to be on the Smackdown roster? Pretty sure that announcement settled who Ronda would be facing.

In other roster news...Shane O Mac is going to be on the RAW roster. Probably confirms we end up with him v Theory at WM. I'm cool with that if they are going to be trying to give Austin the star treatment.

I haven't made it far enough in a WWE show to see Austin Theory on main roster yet. How's he doing? Is he a good talker? What's his wrestling work like?

Is Becky the best promo in wwe right now? Absolutely saved that catastrophic Rousey promo.

I think he's a good wrestler/pretty decent on the mic thus far but the kind of guy you can tell when that part 'clicks' he'll be a future main-eventer

I just hope they let Theory build properly and don't give him the whole NEXT CENA/ROMAN push. You can tell they have high hopes for him and I definitely see him as a long term main eventer, would suck if they end up getting him go away heat by pushing him down everyones throats. So far they've done good on his build imo.

Chad Gable just calling George Washington a dumbdumb lol

Attempted to watch MVP’s promo and gave up halfway due to the fake crowd reaction. It’s cringeworthy.

I struggle even watching the YouTube clips because of this. People always say “well this isn’t new, WWE did this all the time”

Yeah. Over taped shows like how SmackDown was for years. I understood that, it was taped. They never used to do it for an actual live broadcast with a live audience.

People who have gone to the shows have remarked that it’s incredibly distracting live hearing this shit coming out of the PA system all show.

lol the crowd noise has never once bothered me. It sounds like a crowd. I'm not paying attention to them when there's stuff going on anyways.

Its been a few years since I went to a live show, but it used to be they would tone down the crowd noise for guys who were getting cheered more than they should on the broadcast. After they had to do the Thunderdome, they clearly decided they could get away with adding noise, but I always assumed they did it over the broadcast the same way they suppressed unwanted cheers in the past.

If they are playing it over the arena speakers, that would be really annoying for sure.

Yeah on TV it doesn't bother me, it is just background noise. I like the creative chants, those sometimes give me a chuckle, but overall I am mostly listening to the commentary.

Jesus, I wasn’t aware that it was coming out of the PA system. Why even have actual fans back if they’re not going to be heard?

Imagining Styles debuting to a fake crowd reaction at the Rumble or even the Hardys returning at Mania. Sheer madness.

Said it in the Rumble thread, but seriously!

I wonder if new WWE signee THE BOOGEYMAN will make his return before Veer debuts...

becky is killing lita on the mic

Where is Veer coming from? Neptune?

Wonder if Veer will actually re-debut on Raw before he gets caught in the next wave of releases.

are they running a ton of vignettes for this dude or repackaging him or what?

When Veer does show up, he’s going to get such a massive pop. Hopefully.

Hopefully? Just turn up the volume on the crowd_cheer.wav file.

So WWE has had a therapist for Alexa Bliss onscreen for weeks and it is NOT Dr Shelby

#FAIL

Pretty good business decision. Dr Shelby accidentally got over. Better to use a non-descript alternative as not to draw any focus from what’s going on with Alexa.

Also,

Dr. Shelby is #ALLELITE

"I never noticed, you're a lot taller than Rey. Are you sure you're not Eddie's son?"

Miz with the verbal chair shot to the nuts with that one.

This was the only part of the show I caught last night and had me in stitches. Miz has been, is, and always will be, one of the best "all around" performers. Not GOAT, not on GOAT mountain, but solid AF and can manipulate crowds with ease.

The Miz is going to leave a bigger legend than CM Punk.

I used to get shit on when I would attend live events with my Miz shirt. People HAAAAAAATED the guy man. I had more people call attention to me than any other wrestling shirt, ever.


The only other time I was more over at a live event was when I helped elect the leader of the Free world, Shisen

He already is!

1. Has Main Evented Wrestlemania
2. Has his own Reality TV Show
3. Never Quit for 7 years
4. Still looks exactly the same as he did 10 years ago, not like old man Wolverine
5. Never embarrassed himself and an entire sport, twice
6. Never calls people Twats or Cunts on Twitter
7. Hotter Wife
8. Better Movies
9. Never lost to a guy named Johnny Bananas on MTV
10. Worked Phil into a blind rage:
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Miz > Phil

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As much as I dislike the way you're going about this, Miz is without a doubt a better person than Punk. I'd say he's overcome much more than Punk.

The Riddle/Rollins/AJ portion of the chamber gives me hope that this could be an all time great match. But the Brock/Bobby/Saudi portion of the chamber makes me think this will be as disappointing as all the other main events they’ve had.

Bobby still cutting garbage lispy promos while MVP just stands there. LET YOUR TALKERS TALK:rant:

Carmella is a Toga, that works for me!

Shelton Benjamin and Cedric Alexander now jobbing to Omos in a handicap match.

Shelton Benjamin once beat Triple H clean

How many seconds would Keith Lee last in the ring with Omos?

You forgot to mention CM Punk and fed bad.

Can’t really disagree with any of that.

What about Austin Theory? He’s a star!

My bigger concern is that it’s just going to be Brock or Bobby dominating for the whole match and the other four just getting destroyed without getting in any offense. In fact, I’d say that’s the most likely scenario. I hope I’m wrong.