Loving that Setanta are going back through each series of The Ultimate Fighter, I only watched series 2 and 3 in the first place.

Alecksander Emilianenko is out of the fight tomm

Is anyone really gonna spend money on the Affliction PPV??

I know they have a great card but why spend money on it, when Anderson Silva, one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world, is fighting for free..

He is fighting for free, because he is as close to a dead cert to win as possible in MMA. Sylvia/Fedor will be way more competative. Plus, as you said, it's a great card. I actually am eager to watch pretty much every fight.

Although, I will have to download it, since it's not being shown here live, I would have paid for it, and watch Silva maul Irvin online at some point tomorrow.


I bet the fucker loses now.

this post makes you sound like an idiot

No he's fighting for free cause James Irvin is gunna be paid to go down.

What the hell happened with Bravo not showing the Affliction show?

Gotta be UFC interference here.

prolly

How many chances will CB Dolloway have, seriously.

This will be his last. I'm only watching an hour before going to bed.

The Affliction show looks so bush league too. The ring is fucking HUGE! 30x30ft. I only wanna see Big Timmy KO the Russian :D

Very nice submission by Dolloway

Horrific illegal knee though. No excuse for not docking a point.

Shame I wanted JT to win.
Where you watching the Affliction show ROB?

Was watching online but the stream was pissing me off.

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-ppv-test-2.html

At least they got the good Buffer.

Who Bruce?

Michael.

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Kevin Boo-urns should win this fight. Mazzagatti is a total bitch if he doesn't.

lol Finger poke to the eye.

huh how did Burns win?

No idea, why do you think Burns should win Rob?

Mazzagatti didn't see the poke to the eye. He let it go when Johnson was on the floor so Burns attacked him and he stopped the fight. He had to call it a TKO win.

And the commissions can't do shit either. This is what happens in the fight game.

Johnson took the loss like a man though.

Teah, fair play to Johnson.

Jake O'Brian got MULLERED!

Dominated :)

The Babalu fight sucked a dick. This Edgar vs. Franca fight is good though.

I want to go on holiday with Rampage and Vera

Owned in 36 seconds. What is Don Johnson doing there?

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We finally tracked down UFC president Dana White for an update on Rampage Jackson's condition. There's still much that is unknown and doctors are far from an official diagnosis. White told Yahoo! Sports that Jackson was initially going to stay in care for 72 hours but that has now been extended.

"I think it's going to be a while before we get him back. I'm talking as a friend. It's a sensitive issue. Rampage, the UFC fighter, who cares about that. We're concerned about Rampage, the human being. What matters is his personal life."

White also talked about some strange circumstances that led up to Jackson's episode Tuesday.

"He was up for four days and he was doing some crazy fasting thing. He was up for four days, drinking water and energy drinks, that was it. It's not good.

White said he knew as soon as he arrived in Southern California on Tuesday night that something was seriously wrong with Jackson.

"Rampage doesn't do drugs. Rampage really doesn't even drink. This whole thing made no sense to me. (Then) when I got there it made a lot of sense."

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It sounds like the stress of stardom took its toll on Jackson before and after the Forrest Griffin fight.

"As this thing continues to grow and people will get more famous," said White. "Fame isn't easy to deal with. Harder for all the fighter are all the cling-ons. I can't police every fighter. As soon as something goes wrong I'm there and I'll help them."

This will serve as a test case, much like the Chuck Liddell ordeal in 2007. Liddell appeared on a Dallas television morning show and appeared to be under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Liddell was dozing off on live television. It turned out that Liddell's handlers allowed him to appear on television under the influence of the sleeping aid Lunesta and cold medicine Nyquil.

It's becoming more obvious UFC needs to educate its fighters and their management teams on crisis management. Other sports have huge support staffs to help their athletes with the media and life management. It doesn't always work as exhibited by the 60+ run-ins with police this offseason amongst NFL players. It certainly couldn't hurt UFC fighters. There are simply too many opportunities now for fighters to get overwhelmed by fame and money.

Anthony Johnson should've won that fight.. Def a class act though..

Silva is the man..

Mad disappointed in Vera..

Who won the Affliction shit?? Oh and Reav, I knew that shit would be bush-league compared to UFC..

NICE

Good thing he isn't paid by the hour...

What are you talking about?

Granted, Silva wasn't as short as Fedor/Sylvia... But having watched both shows, since, if you cut out the between fight bits, UFC lasted about an hour tops.. Banned was a wayyyyyyy better show. And everybody, but you of course, seemed to know it before hand anyway.

And you didn't go and meet Jake the Snake. All for 1 minutes of inevitability.

You are not a wise man.

White obviously didn't Rampage was going to the oppositions show.

Man Fedor just fucking raped Sylvia too. Big Timmy left the UFC for that? Sucks to be him.

Sorry the Affliction show was no way better. Aside from the 36 second rape, the fights sucked. Total bush league show.

Bollocks. Arlovski/Rothwell was a good fight. Linland was pretty poor, but Barnett/Rizzo was a better watch than the Vera fight for sure, Belfort looked solid..... The undercard of UFN was weak as anything I've seen in International MMA in the last few years.

I think Rob tried to touch on this, but he forgot to type in english.


Did anyone notice Rampage on one of the Affliction commercials? What was that about?

Rampage is sponsered by Affliction, probably why

And I marked for Fedor and Randy being face to face

Umm considering both of you said you didnt see the show, you probably shouldnt talk. The show was fuckin sweet and the big ring was awsome. Small rings suck because you take three or four seps from the center, and you are in the ropes. With this they had a ton of room to move around.

They did a cool thing in showing every fight they had regardless of the place on the card. They could have done without megadeath but they added time to go get a beer or take a shit and not miss any action.

And the fights were awsome! Better than the ones UFC put on at least! Now your going to say "well Lindland was boring!!!" and yes he was, but i will retort with, "the vera fight, the anthony johnson pre finger stab to the eye fight, and the edgar fight all made me watch the television that had affliction on it." The last three fights were amazing on the affliction card. Barnett-Rizzo was classic, Arlovski raped Rothwell and Fedor showed everyone why hes number 1. The vitor fight was awsome and the babalu fight was good too.

I haven't seen any on the Affliction show yet, so I am kinda bias, but I figured as much..

Ole Fabien seems to have thing for riding my nuts so it's all good anyway..

Just gonna say, the Anthony Johnson fight was awesome every second they were on their feet, for the record..

I kind of liked the Edgar/Franca fight. Franca obviously had more power and if Edgar made one mistake it could have been all over for him but he kept at it and won by decision.

Whatever, I was responding to a comment I felt had no true reasoning for its opinionated nature. You called it bush league when you watched majoritively matches between guys designed to win and guys who are filling ring-space.

Affliction was good. And Reav, who also watched it entirely agrees. And I have watched both.

I would have made the same comment regardless of the fact I think you are an arse.

So, my opinion is wrong simply because your opinion differs??

Look, in my 10 plus years of watching MMA, Pride was the only promotion to ever come close to putting on half as good of a show as UFC does on a nightly bases.. If you really want to become uppity towards me for stating that opinion, fine.. I just think it's retarded to spend money on a card full of former great fighters, most of whom I cared nothing for in the first place, than to watch a free event I knew would entertain me, just because it's popular to wear tight shirts with flaming skulls on them..

Even as a "super card" Arlovski and Fedor are the only two fighters I'd pay money to see and even stating that is pushing it, seeing as Arlovski is a shell of his former self and Fedor hasn't fought anyone of worth in over three years.. Well, minus Matt Lindland, who has only one other big fight in the past three years, which was Jeremy Horn, who I have to mention, hasn't done shit either in those same three years, scine he was last in the UFC..

See a pattern there..

I refuse to spent $50 on their tight gay flaming skull shirts, why would I spend it on their attempt at a super card??

well, you decide Krisp...

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I wouldnt say hes a shell anymore...


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You know I used to mark out for him hard core..

I just don't see paying for that PPV when you could've watch UFC for free and then watched this later, for free..

Also, UFC > *..

LOL @ the Sylvia BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO's

How big was Prides ring cause that one does look bigger than any I've ever seen??

OR.... go to a bar showing both or just affliction and tape UFC.... i watched affliction for free

pride was just a standard sized rimg... this one was like 30 or 32 across

The arlovski fight was awsome

Yeah all I said was, I knew it would be an inferior product to UFC..

It was..

I also asked why someone would spend money on it..

You didn't..

Sylvia got absolutely destroyed...

I knew Fedor was gonna win, but I thought it would at least take 3 minutes. The Troll just wasn't ready.

Maybe Fedor had somewhere else to be...

Anyone got a link to the Silvia fight?

It's like 10 posts up, crackhead..

:o

lol, should've checke the thread :o

Fedor hates Swamp Things

how was it inferior?

and if there werent bars playing it i would have bought it. I was just questioning your intellegence/laziness for not finding a way to see both.

Every other promotion outside of UFC and WEC are inferior IMO..

I am seeing both..

UFC live on tv last night..

Affliction online today/tomorrow..

Someone was selling Rampage's shredded tire on craigslist but it got taken down..

LOL

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i just dont understand how you can have that opinion without seeing the show and being as hardcore or longtime mma fan that you say to be

i really enjoyed the Affliction show. I've always preferred the ring to a octagon.

What are you talking about??

I've seen it now and my prediction was pretty spot on..

Why do you care that I'm a UFC fan boy??

I'm not big on this schoolgirl arguing, but either way...

An opinion is stated with additional words which imply it is opinion. You state things like they are fact. 'I knew it would be a bush league show'

Thats why I retort, because fact and opinion aren't stated in the same way.

Arlovski is a shell of his former self? How have you watched MMA for 10 years and still make teenager comments like that? Did you start this decade of MMA voyeurism when you were 3?

And you didn't say you think this, you stated is as a true fact. The run down of match ups you stated was very interesting, but whatever. If you like watching the bottom rung of fighters who get paid around 5k to lose to slightly better nobodies, or TUF rejects Dana tries to milk some publicity out of until the next TUF begins and they become as worthless as before, then great. I would personally rather watch a show that is stacked with fighters with world-class skills and some of the most impressive combat backgrounds in the world.

Who knows why?


Nobody is talking about their fucking t-shirts. Why would you even bother to bring up that they make t-shirts, that to be fair, you probably only dislike because they don't make your size?



Seriously, this isn't just because I don't like you, it's because you make comments from opinion, and dress them up as fact. KK does it, but he backs it up with some intelligence.

You know what I mean?

lol

You are fucking ridiculous..

Firstly, you are putting your opinions how great the Affliction PPV was, out there like everyone who doesn't agree is wrong.. I never put my opinions across like that..

Secondly, fighters like Arlovski is a shell of his former self.. Me a Reavant have been talking about that for years, as I have been a huge Arlovski fan, and he knows/trains with the guy..

Fedor hasn't fought anyone of worth since Pride disbanned.. And even towards the end of it they were feeding him "over the hill" fighters like Mark Coleman and Matt Lindland (who ironically was on the same "THUPERCARD" you are trying to defend to me)..

I'm not even gonna comment on Tim Sylvia..

Once again, all I said was I didn't know why someone would spend their money to watch a subpar, first time promotion, over a free UFC event, when they could watch the UFC event, and then watch the Affliction event later, online..

I understand that it's important for the sport to have other big promotions to house the thousands of great fighters who aren't in UFC, but I have never seen one that's come close to the production quality UFC puts on night after night.. The Elite XC CBS show was a fucking joke and made me sad that that is what they are putting across on national tv as the best MMA in the world.. Strikeforce is pretty horrid, with Ken Shamrock being the worst commentator I've ever seen.. IFL is good, but they can barely pay their fighters and have threatened to shutdown numerous times.. The only way I've even heard of M1 and DREAM is because I frequent MMA meassage boards..

It is my opinion that UFC/WEC is a more quality product than what everyone eles is putting out there and it's not my fault you are so sensitive to take me saying that "fact" and getting your panties all in a wad..

Whatever, that wasn't you said, this is an attempt to justify comments that didn't state your intention, according to this post.

TV Production value doesn't have anything to do with card quality and fight quality, has it? So, yeah. OK.

My point is, like I already said, is that you dogged the Affliction show and cast an opinion on it, without seeing it first. Making your opinion full of shit.

So, do we get another few paragraphs of bollocks that isn't relevant to the discussion at hand, or is that it?


Oh, and how you are STILL talking about Arlovski as past it after that fight shows you are either retarded, or still haven't watched Affliction, in which case you should really really really shut the fuck up.

So why don't you go back and quote all this shit I talked..

Cause for the fifth time, all I said was that I figured it would be a bush league show as far a production value, with a great card, if they had had it in 2006, and that UFC is a superior product..

All of which, even being a mere opinion, turned out to be true..

Oh and TV production is everything to me.. Sure I love great fights but if it looks like shit, it's hard to get into it..

Same with any sporting event..

To change the subject a bit, check this out..

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:-\

I'm no longer having this discussion with you.

Can somebody direct me to a video of the Silva fight?

Example:

I had a few buddies over to watch the Elite XC CBS show.. It runs about 2 hours and gets to the prefight video package for the main event, being Kimbo vs. Thompson.. We go outside, thinking we had 15 minutes, to smoke one.. We come back inside within 10 minutes and the fights had restarted.. The very first fight of the card was on.. Us being drunk and high were like WTF because there is no way it was that fast with the ring entrance, introductions, and the fight itself etc.. The show proceeded to run from the beggining for one hour and then went off the air.. Never saw Kimbo or Thompson, nothing..

Also, I work on tv so yeah..

Production quality is pretty big to me, ecspecially if I'm paying money..

Buy hey, whatever floats your boat..

then you would have loved affliction them because of all the time they gave you with the band time.


also, as long as the cameras are actually on the fighters while they are fighting, then how is it hard for you to get into the fight?

I mean its a sport and the competition is making me watch it... not how well they cut from camera to camera or the quality of announcers, or animations to show height, weight and records.

Bad production can kill a good fight..

Same way bad production can kill a potentially good movie..

You kill potentially good discussion.

What the fuck are you on about?

A fan of 10 plus years of MMA would not give two shits about production value. A new fan might.

What?

so MMA changes your personal preferences?

if you can see the two fighters, and the cameras stay on them from a reasonable distance, then how does the production kill the fight? IT DOESNT!!!

BAD FIGHTS KILL THE PRODUCTION! not the other way around. Good fights can save a shitty production.

I agree with that also..

You guys are taking this way too seriously..

IMO UFC is better than all other promotions.. Sure that is a biased opinion but I've admitted that numerous times..

Why do you guys care??

lol

Yes, UFC is hands down better than any other promotion.

That's all I said.. Well, that and I questioned why someone would spend money on another promotion, than to just watch UFC for free and then the other promotion for free later on..

Go back and read what I'm being attacked for..

Ridiculous..

You never said that though, you suggested that UFN was a better watching option than Affliction. Order of viewing and reasoning was never your point, you are just twisting this to make it seem like you are being hard done by.

That is bullshit, dude..

I said:

Then went on to agree with Rob that it was a subpar event..

As I said earlier today, why don't you quote me saying these things cause maybe you'll go back and read the whole argument and see what a dick you look like..

I didn't watch either but if I had to choose I would've gone with Affliction. The card looked so much better. Why would I watch guys who lost on TUF?

And that suggests you think Anderson for free is better than the whole Affliction card, not that you are going to download it later.

I don't quote because I don't want to. Simple.

What about Andrei, The Shell Arlovski? I guess that was just you stating that he was terrible at Affliction? Dick's in the mirror.

well he was saying that andrei WAS a shell. a lot of people thought that but he came in this weekend and showed that he was not. even if he was however, the fight would have been entertaining because rothwell would have been onm the offensive. He said after i posted the fight that he is "back"

the only problem i had with all this is when krispy basically said the fights were bad cuz the production was poor which just makes no sense to me.

Didn't say that at all..

Just saying that no promotion compares to UFC on value and shitty production can ruin a card IMO..

you pretty much said that exactly except it was even more broad to include every other organization

Are they not drug testing you for your fight, cause you are obviously high or something..

I never said the fights were bad..

I said that poor production quality can lead me, as a fan, to not enjoy the fights as much as I could.. I've had that happen with just about every company outside of Pride and UFC/WEC..

You guys keep putting words in my mouth..

Also, it's not that big of a deal to me.. There will be alot of other promotions pop up and try to put on shows that I won't pay money for, specially if there's a top fighter on a free card, being put on by the best MMA company in the world, that same night..

Settle down..

UFN hardly represents the quality of the best MMA company in the world. And I am stating that as fact and not just my opinion, because it is one.

If you base the MMA you watch on the in-fight camera transitions and positions, and the length of the pre-fight promo video, then great. There are idiots everywhere...

Yeah, cause that is exactly what I said..