So it looks like the BCS teams are going to be:
Ohio State
Michigan
Florida
Oklahoma
USC
Rutgers
Wake Forest
*Louisville
*LSU
*Boise State
*Notre Dame

*And then one of these teams is going to miss out. Notre Dame or Boise St. could automatically be in, based on the final polls, so it looks like it would be Louisville that would get the short end of the stick.

If Louisville misses out though, then the Gator Bowl will probably go Big East and take them this year, and Mizzou can go to the Sun Bowl instead of the shitty Insight Bowl. The Insight Bowl would be cool because we'd be playing Minnesota, but it would be a horrible matchup, they are just awful, and the only TV it is on is the NFL Network. Fuck that.

USC goes to the Rose Bowl.

nevrmind you edited it

BCS Championship Game
No. 1 Ohio State vs. No. 2 Florida

Rose Bowl
No. 3 Michigan vs. No. 6 USC

Fiesta Bowl
No. 4 Oklahoma vs. No. 8 Boise State

Sugar Bowl
No. 5 LSU vs. No. 9 Notre Dame

Orange Bowl
No. 16 Wake Forest vs. No. 10 Rutgers


I honestly think that Florida is going to get the nod for the national championship. I don't really like the matchup between LSU and Notre Dame if it happens, such different styles of football, but if those are the teams that is probably who it'd be.

:kiss:

Michigan would be National Champions. Just like in any other scenario, a win when it counts more than a loss that doesn't. I believe Michigan shouldn't get another game against Ohio State even if they are "the only team left". Personally, I think OU should be in the National Championship game since the Oregon game was a chickenshit loss.

Problem with that is that the BCS bills every regular season game as a playoff game. Thats there excuse not to have a playoff. They tell people that every game should be considered a playoff, because if you lose, you have no chance at a BCS bowl. That being said, they probably dont want Michigan to be in the National Title game. Also, whats that say to Ohio St. " Hey you beat Michigan once already, but if you want to be champions, you gotta beat them again ". That makes no sense.

I want to see Michigan vs Ohio St. again in the title game, but that doesnt make it fair. Michigan lost. They had there shot and given the system that is provided, they shouldnt get another shot. Someone else should and i think that someone should be Florida. Ohio St. would stomp Florida's ass, but still.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_...yhoo&type=lgns

Great colum by Dan Wetzel

I'm getting pissed thinking about this whole thing.

BTW, Florida President released a statement that i heard on the radio and found funny. I'll look for it.

"If they don't vote for us after tonight, we need a new system," Florida President Bernie Machen said after the game. "We should be packing our bags for Glendale."

:lol:

But if they do vote Florida, that system is GREAAAAAAAAAT!

What a joke. Talk about being a selfish prick. We need a new system period, not just if Florida doesnt make it. Fucking asshole.

I don't look at the national championship as a championship game as in the Super Bowl or the World Series. The Super Bowl and the World Series crown a champion, but the point of the BCS National Championship is to name the best team in college football. The Super Bowl names a champion. To get to the BCS game, you can't go 8-4 and do well in the playoffs. You either have to go undefeated or awful close. I don't know how you can say that Michigan is the best team in college football if they beat a team that has already beat them.

Also, I don't believe that the BCS system is as messed up as other people. Yeah, it would be cool to have the playoffs and everything, but with the BCS, absolutely every game counts. If you are 10-0 and have the division wrapped up, you can't give your best guys a rest and afford a loss, and you know that is what would happen. I would say that 9 times out of 10 the BCS gets it right, and the BCS champion can legitimately be considered the champion of college football.

The other argument is that getting rid of this system would get rid of the bowl system, and while that sounds good in a way, I don't think it is. The most they can possibly have is a 16 team playoffs, starting next week and ending the first week of January. So now you have 16 teams, what about the other 40 or so teams that go to bowls? That is a major source of cash for the schools and allows teams to play cool teams that they would otherwise never schedule.

And going back to my last post, having a playoff doesn't name you the best team in college football. Having a playoff gets you the best team in the playoffs. Were the Pittsburgh Steelers the best team in football last year? Absolutely not, but they were the Super Bowl Champions. Were the Texas Longhorns the best team in college football, I think you can say yes. That is why I think the system works. It gets you the best single matchup in college football, no underdog shit, and it makes the whole season count. If Florida doesn't get in there this year, you can bet that there are going to be a lot better non-conference games in the future.

Florida should play Ohio State after that win last night..

Crazy games yesterday..

SEC>*

No ones beating OSU

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lol

You get way too deep into your thoughts sometimes - its football. The team that wins is the best team. If you tear it up in the regular season but then in the NFL playoffs you can't win when you're the "better team" then you really aren't the better team then.

I don't get how Michigan got worse while not playing a game :?: I mean Florida played a much tougher schedule but I thought the BCS was about finding the 2 best teams? I think Michigan is better team then Florida

I'm taking a playoff system all day over the BCS, I dunno how you can even consider the champion decided by a computer better then letting them decide it on the field. Every game doesn't really count though, since a few 1 loss teams are gonna be on the outside looking in. Who is the better team out of those 1 loss teams? Out of like the 10 people talking about on this board we are all split on who is better.

It would help a lot if top 10 teams schedualed more non-conference games against other top 10 teams.

Wow, Texas playing in the Alamo Bowl against Iowa. That's sure a lot better than playing in some stinky BCS game.

The champion isn't decided by a computer, that is just stupid rhetoric. Whoever wins the BCS National Championship is the champion.

So is the "How did Michigan get worse" argument. They did not get worse, they simple had their chance to beat Ohio State, and now an equally talented Florida team that played the hardest schedule in NCAA football this season is going ot get that opportunity. What has Michigan done that makes them deserving of a rematch when Florida had an equally as strong season?


And I don't know how you can argue that the team who wins a playoff is the best team in a sport. If you want the national champion to be determined by a playoff, that is one thing, but you have to accept that that drastically changes the system. In European soccer, they don't have playoffs to name the champion, because the best team is determined by the regular season. That is basically how college football is set up.

Look at baseball. The Yankees were the best team in baseball all season, the Cardinals were probably not even in the top 10. Then they win the playoffs, so they are World Series champions, but they aren't the best team in the league. That is how college football is, the best two teams, as determined by 12 games, face off in the national championship. Not a bunch of good teams get thrown into a mix to determine who is playing the best in the last couple weeks.

Where can I get a list of all the bowl games being listed?

Collegefootballnews.com is a good site, I assume it has them up

Letting them decide who is better on the field > deciding who is better by looking at the roster/record/schedule and just guessing

You cannot compare the soccer format to college football. Soccer leagues have 20 teams who all play against each other over a roughly 40 game span. You cannot say that system is the same as 119 football teams playing somewhere between 10 and 14 games and saying that has accurately determined who the best teams are in college.

Also how can you say playoffs don't determine who the best team is as well as the BCS format? For that to be true that suggests that the best teams always win during the regular season which obviously doesn't happen. How can you say Florida is better than Michigan, Louisville, or Boise State? Who is to say that Florida wouldn't have lost to Notre Dame, Wisconsin and Ohio State if they played Michigan's schedule?

It makes the regular season count!!

I guess winning games during the regular season doesn't count in any other sports, since you know, every single team makes the playoffs...

WOOOOOOOOOOO

GO Florida!!1!

As an Ole Miss fan, that pained me to say..

SEC>*

I think Florida is gonna have to be hopeful the long lay off for Ohio State is going to hurt them because if Ohio State comes out and plays their game no way Florida will be able to stop them. If Michigan (who has the best defense in the country IMO, wait and see how many guys from that D are playing on Sundays in a few years) couldn't stop them, I don't think anyone can.

Michigan vs Ohio State probably would have been a better game, atleast I think so, but Michigan already got their shot (although that isn't how the BCS is suppose to work but alright) so lets see if Florida can prove me wrong.

Team's with losing records have consistantly gotten into the NBA playoffs in the past couple years. There are only five teams in the NBA Eastern Conference that have winning records right now, and nobody in the Atlantic Division has a winning record. If the NFL playoffs started today, a .500 NFC team would make it.

So how can you tell me that all of these teams are deserving of making the playoffs? How can you say that the quality of sport isn't decreased by the top team's knowing that they don't have to play their best, because the playoffs are almost a joke to get into?

But just think about it, if there was a playoff system in place, then USC losing to UCLA would have been just a stupid game. Nobody would have cared, win or lose, USC would still have a chance at the national title. But since the whole season is like a playoff, it was one of the most important games of the year, and USC losing it ended everything. That is why this system works.

I am not completely opposed to a playoff system, but I really don't think there are more than four teams on a given year that are deserving of a chance at the BCS national title. Ohio State, Florida, Michigan and probably USC or LSU would be the team's this year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2473969

Entire Bowl Game Schedule (in order of time and date):

The 2006-07 bowl lineup will start in San Diego and end in Glendale, Ariz. Here's a look at the schedule from the Poinsettia Bowl to the BCS Championship Game.
All times Eastern

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TCU vs. Northern Illinois </td> <td> Dec. 19, 8 p.m.
San Diego </td> <td> ESPN2 HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Pioneer PureVision Las Vegas
BYU vs. Oregon </td> <td> Dec. 21, 8 p.m.
Las Vegas </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Rice vs. Troy </td> <td> Dec. 22, 8 p.m.
New Orleans </td> <td> ESPN2 HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Papajohns.com Bowl
South Florida vs. East Carolina </td> <td> Dec. 23, 1 p.m.
Birmingham, Ala. </td> <td> ESPN2 HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> New Mexico
New Mexico vs. San Jose State </td> <td> Dec. 23, 4:30 p.m.
Albuquerque, N.M. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
Tulsa vs. Utah </td> <td> Dec. 23, 8 p.m.
Fort Worth, Texas </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Sheraton Hawaii
Arizona State vs. Hawaii </td> <td> Dec. 24, 8 p.m.
Honolulu </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Motor City
Middle Tennessee vs. Central Michigan </td> <td> Dec. 26, 7:30 p.m.
Detroit </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Emerald
Florida State vs. UCLA </td> <td> Dec. 27, 8 p.m.
San Francisco </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> PetroSun Independence
Oklahoma State vs. Alabama </td> <td> Dec. 28, 4:30 p.m.
Shreveport, La. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Pacific Life Holiday
California vs. Texas A&M </td> <td> Dec. 28, 8 p.m.
San Diego </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Texas
Rutgers vs. Kansas State </td> <td> Dec. 28, 8 p.m.
Houston </td> <td> NFL Network </td> <td>Buy Tickets</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Gaylord Hotels Music City
Clemson vs. Kentucky </td> <td> Dec. 29, 1 p.m.
Nashville, Tenn. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Brut Sun
Oregon State vs. Missouri </td> <td> Dec. 29, 2 p.m.
El Paso, Texas </td> <td> CBS </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> AutoZone Liberty
Houston vs. South Carolina </td> <td> Dec. 29, 4:30 p.m.
Memphis, Tenn. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Insight
Texas Tech vs. Minnesota </td> <td> Dec. 29, 7:30 p.m.
Tempe, Ariz. </td> <td> NFL Network </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Champs Sports
Purdue vs. Maryland </td> <td> Dec. 29, 8 p.m.
Orlando, Fla. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Meineke Car Care
Navy vs. Boston College </td> <td> Dec. 30, 1 p.m.
Charlotte, N.C. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Alamo
Texas vs. Iowa </td> <td> Dec. 30, 4:30 p.m.
San Antonio </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Chick-fil-A
Georgia vs. Virginia Tech </td> <td> Dec. 30, 8 p.m.
Atlanta </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> MPC Computers
Miami, Fla. vs. Nevada </td> <td> Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m.
Boise, Idaho </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Outback
Tennessee vs. Penn State </td> <td> Jan. 1, 11 a.m.
Tampa, Fla. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> AT&T Cotton
Auburn vs. Nebraska </td> <td> Jan. 1, 11:30 a.m.
Dallas </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Toyota Gator
West Virginia vs. Georgia Tech </td> <td> Jan. 1, 1 p.m.
Jacksonville, Fla. </td> <td> CBS </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Capital One
Arkansas vs. Wisconsin </td> <td> Jan. 1, 1 p.m.
Orlando, Fla. </td> <td> ABC HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Rose Bowl presented by Citi
USC vs. Michigan </td> <td> Jan. 1, 5 p.m.
Pasadena, Calif. </td> <td> ABC HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Tostitos Fiesta
Boise State vs. Oklahoma </td> <td> Jan. 1, 8 p.m.
Glendale, Ariz. </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> FedEx Orange
Louisville vs. Wake Forest </td> <td> Jan. 2, 8 p.m.
Miami </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Allstate Sugar
Notre Dame vs. LSU </td> <td> Jan. 3, 8 p.m.
New Orleans </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> International
Cincinnati vs. Western Michigan </td> <td> Jan. 6, Noon
Toronto </td> <td> ESPN2 HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> GMAC
Ohio vs. Southern Miss </td> <td> Jan. 7, 8 p.m.
Mobile, Ala. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Tostitos BCS Championship Game
Florida vs. Ohio State </td> <td> Jan. 8, 8 p.m.
Glendale, Ariz. </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets </td> </tr></tbody></table>
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Even though we're in a shitty bowl, I am glad, because we've got a good opponent. No. 24 Oregon State > four wins against D1A Minnesota.

The whole season isn't like a playoff though, it isn't fair. You have a bunch of teams with 1 loss (and one with no loses..is it Boise State's fault nobody wants to play them?) that get no chance. How is it fair that Florida is getting a shot while Michigan isn't? Say USC did beat UCLA and USC got in over Florida and Michigan how would that be fair? I don't get how that makes the regular season mean more, it just means more teams get screwed.

This is college, not the NBA. College players are going to play hard no matter what. Are you saying that when in college basketball Duke and UNC play the last game of the year they aren't trying because they'll already be in the NCAA tourny? USC would not play timid against UCLA even if there was no reason to other than pride. That's what makes college sports great.

If anything a playoff system would increase the product of the regular season because big time programs wouldn't be as hesitant to schedule other non conference big time programs or better smaller programs like Boise State. Plus smaller schools would have a chance to sign better players who otherwise wouldn't go to a school that didn't have a chance to win a title.

How can you say there aren't more than four teams deserving of a chance for the BCS title this year and then name five schools who are? And what about Oklahoma, Auburn, Louisville, and Boise State? What did they do to not deserve to play for a title?

I hope Boise State beats Oklahoma by like 40 points or something just to see what would happen

It won't happen, yankee.

Just for the record, if the playoff system that I endorsed earlier this year was in place, it would look like this.

1. Ohio State (Big Ten)
16. Troy (Sun Belt)

8. Southern Cal (Pacific 10)
9. Boise State (Western Athletic)

4. Louisiana State (Wildcard)
13. Brigham Young (Mountain West)

5. Louisville (Big East)
12. Wake Forest (Atlantic Coast)

3. Michigan (Wildcard)
14. Houston (Conference USA)

6. Wisconsin (Wildcard)
11. Notre Dame (Wildcard)

7. Oklahoma (Big 12)
10. Auburn (Wildcard)

2. Florida (Southeastern)
15. Central Michigan (Mid-American)

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Then you figure:
Gator Bowl
1. Ohio State
8. Southern Cal

Cotton Bowl
4. Louisiana State
5. Louisville

Fiesta Bowl
3. Michigan
11. Notre Dame

Sugar Bowl
10. Auburn
2. Florida
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Rose Bowl
1. Ohio State
4. Louisiana State

Orange Bowl
3. Michigan
2. Florida
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1. Ohio State
2. Florida :D (THATS RIGHT, BITCHES!)

I would support that playoff system, or I would support the top four ranked teams.

<TABLE class=ilt cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=evenrow vAlign=top><TD>Texas
Rutgers vs. Kansas State </TD><TD>Dec. 28, 8 p.m.
Houston </TD><TD>NFL Network </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

:-\

Wait, I didn't notice that, Rutgers got pushed all the way down to the Texas Bowl? That is rediculous.

I'm kind of hoping for the same thing. Also i'm hoping Ohio St wins 60-3

At first I thought that said Rutgers was playing Texas, that would be sick...but Kansas State could still be a good game...but on the NFL Network? Fuck I won't be at school then so I won't be able to watch it

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? 3? Get out of here.

Tim Tebow is a home schooled faggot, I'm not an OSU fan at all but I hope Laurinaitis fucks him up

lol if he was home schooled (I'll take your word) how did he end up playing QB for Florida his Freshamn year?