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Cody can get fucked now. Was decent when AEW first started, but it’s clear this is a vanity project.
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NBCUniversal should revamp the USA Network into their version of Fox News and just move current programming they feel like keeping to SyFy, Bravo or Peacock.
If I were them I'd cut my losses and can NXT and just move RAW as a 2 hr show to another network and see if it can help their ratings. SyFy needs all the help it can get, Bravo seems to be doing fine. |
Wow, that's gotta be disappointing for AEW. I thought they would have done better coming off a PPV. But when you're a niche product of an already niche product....
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Just crushing WWE again. What a world.
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USA had Smackdown for about $200 million. NXT get half the rating Smackdown did for USA, but it cost them 4 times less. Simple deduction suggests USA is getting a bargain. Also, TNT should cancel Dynamite, because it gets only 100,000 more viewers than the show you think should be cancelled, and unlike USA/WWE, TNT has no long-standing relationship with that promotion. AEW is not a continuation of WCW, no matter how hard they try to pretend it is. |
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NXT is incredibly cheap programming that draws close to what Dynamite gets, but is also PG and has the WWE branding to boost its value with advertisers. They also don't split ad revenue with WWE for it. If AEW took in the same amount of ad revenue as NXT, they're only half as valuable to TNT out the gate, then you've got to work in the TV rights fees. USA is laughing at the TV deal they've got for NXT. It's possible that in the future TNT regrets their current configuration with AEW, because they'll want that ad revenue money. NXT has helped capped AEW's audience, which is niche anyway. But there's 200k or so people who would watch Dynamite if NXT weren't also on at the same time. That keeps their popularity at a certain level that is going to make them a flea when it comes to TV rights negotiations in a few years time. You want WWE numbers? You need WWE for that. That's the plan. WWE aren't moving NXT to "win" a ratings "war." But TNT might move Dynamite if they feel they can get the audience to follow it to a different slot and if they get the idea that they can bump up viewership by 200k to maximize what they can out of it. That's when WWE actually counter-program them with some weight and AEW drops to about 600k on a Tuesday, because it will be a Triple H produced show with main roster talent. TNT, who would have been expecting 950k-1 million viewers at the new time would be extremely disappointed and someone has egg on their face and that rolls downhill. Plus, NXT would be unopposed then and would probably be doing about 800k viewers. So Vince ends up with SmackDown, Raw, a new show and NXT as the top four in wrestling with Dynamite and the TNT Cody Hour or whatever they call it scrapping up fifth and sixth. Marathon not a sprint. |
I heard Raw is only on Monday night's because WWE knew that years later AEW would want to put a Monday Night show on the air. It's totally true! Even though Raw has been on Monday Nights for YEARS before AEW even existed, Raw is still only airing on Mondays to hurt AEW.
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And even though Raw is beating AEW in the ratings, AEW is still the hot thing with the kids.
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xrod makes me hate that I love Noid.
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Remember how AEW was making fun of NXT for "hotshotting" a theme show with Halloween Havoc (even though they did the exact same thing with Bash at the Beach (before Cody traded that and FIVE other trademarks so he could be Rhodes (thus beating the empire!)))?
It's cool though, that they are gonna hotshot a World Title match on free TV to pop an extra 50,000 viewers, right? AEW LOGIC!!! |
Was AEW actually making fun of NXT for ”hotshotting” a theme show or are you doing that weird thing where you take a scenario that happened in your mind while you were laying in bed seething about AEW and then come here to argue against it?
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I know that AEW super fans accuse NXT of hot-shotting all the time and consider Tony Khan a smart and restrained booker with ideas for years. I’ve legitimately seen people say that Sasha vs. Io was wasting a dream match on free TV because NXT is “desperate.”
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This is getting embarrassing for WWE. AEW is just pounding them week after week. You hate to see it.
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I have AEW superfans trying to tell me that AEW is beating Raw when it comes to making new fans. This past week, Raw got a 0.56 for its first two hours versus AEW’s 0.3. It’s a 0.53 if you add the third hour (which obviously handicaps Raw).
An average of 0.31 in people 18-34, more than doubling AEW’s 0.14. A 0.25 in girls and women under 35 and a 0.33 in boys and men in the same age bracket for Raw. 0.13 and 0.12 for AEW. It’s double for girls and almost TRIPLE for boys. Can we just stop the bullshit about this being even close to as popular? They got 45% of the viewership, 57% of the “key” demo, 45% of the adults under 35, 52% of women and girls, and only 33% of boys and men. And that’s while producing 33.3% extra content through their second most popular show. Yep, WWE must be shaking about those TV contracts coming up. |
Raw gets a 0.67 with men in the alleged key demo. AEW got a whopping 57% of that. They got 52% of grown-ass women who no longer live with their brothers and don’t have to look at the TV to see muscles. Bring Roman Reigns over and watch that margin widen.
Fuck, I just hate this manufactured hysteria around this shitty product. Bryan Alvarez literally called them “Attitude era numbers” this past week. And no, he didn’t mean in terms of volume, he was trying to put over how many heads per home were allegedly watching, but he said “Attitude era numbers.” I swear it’s a bigger fucking work than the actual wrestling. |
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How are you judging its spot as the “3rd most popular thing with women 18-49?” Are you not basing that ranking directly on the network ratings?
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Fan, you are in an argument with two giant assholes. Both are essentially Droford at this point. You're wasting your time.
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Xrod was always Droford. Right down to the cocky manner in which he says undeniably wrong/insanely stupid shit. Like with Droford, pointing it out to him will never help. But it’s too fun not to.
Noid trolls. But I always have hope that our history of fighting the CyNicks of the world together will force him to tap the brakes on the trolling when it comes to me. Probably not though. |
Noid is legitimately just a dick bag who vastly overrates his own intelligence.
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Definitely.
But don’t we all? |
Not me. I just spit facts.
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Noid is owning ya'll in this thread
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Noids a bum.
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Seems like a very odd tactic to make up a quote and then argue against that quote you made up just so you can pretend you “checkmated” someone. That’s some next-level derpiness.
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JR did say they kicked NXT’s ass every week, which is an exaggeration and trivial compared to the larger scheme of things.
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He legit said "Well WWE, it's just business that we're kicking your ass every night." This is from the same piece of garbage who used his wife's death to get a new 2 year contract from WWE, then bitched how they didn't use him enough. They gave him a sympathy contract, and he turns around and buries them every chance he gets. It's the same way he always buried Eric Bischoff and WCW for years, well that is until he got back on Turner's network. At least he is still honoring his wife's memory by tweeting out how much he wants to bang younger women like Sunny and how he loves her onlyfans page. :rofl: |
There is literally a human being in this thread at this very moment complaining that JR (widely considered the greatest commentator of all time) is a “piece of garbage” for “using his wife’s death” to get a paycheck from WWE...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...ZxOOQ&usqp=CAU This is where Noid has the perfect opportunity to either say “AEW is indeed horrible but xrod is a fucking idiot and I do not wish to be lumped in with him.” or to just push all of his chips in to the fucktard pot. |
No I didn't read it, but this dude replies to every post I make KNOWING I have his posts hidden. I can only guess he told me I'm dumb and like lame things and whatever else "gotchas" he thinks I said. :eek:
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I already tricked you into proving you read my posts. It was very easy because you are incredibly dumb. Going out of your way to try to convince people you don’t see them doesn’t make you look smart. Just a heads up.
But let’s not focus on your “I got you on ignore” fail. We can come back to that. Let’s stay focused on this JR post fail. I’m anxious to see if Noid does the right thing. |
Noid has proven time and again to swing off the nuts off anyone who pays him the slightest compliment.
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It depends what JR said. If he said they are kicking the WWE’s ass, then I don’t see how the quote is taken out of context. If he said NXT, then he’s still being an idiot because he should see the long game. And winning by 150k viewers is not kicking ass, nor does it even guarantee that AEW is making TNT more money than a cheaper, PG NXT.
I don’t think he used his wife’s death for a sympathy job. It wouldn’t surprise me if Jan’s passing has affected JR really deeply and caused him to want to go out there and do more. Keep busy, etc. I don’t agree with those comments. JR being an idiot about this “war,” yes. JR’s relationship with WWE, no. I hope he gets out of AEW soon though. I could see FOX wanting him to be the commentator on SmackDown. If he can get the money, then it’s that plus more exposure for him. |
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Now that Guy Fieri has been vanquished it would seem The Real Housewives of Orange County is AEW's biggest Wednesday night competition....
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While this happened last week <a href="https://t.co/b4m0HdhdNa">pic.twitter.com/b4m0HdhdNa</a></p>— SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1330938352032489477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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xrod currently looking for a nonsensical meme to post to make himself feel better.
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Oh except the 11.5 million people that watched Monday Night Football, we will just ignore that one :rofl: Also, they are bragging about 270,000 viewers :roll: |
A .27 rating does not mean 270,000 viewers. Since xrod is pretending he can’t read my posts I’ll leave the fun up to you guys. Keep in mind he is reading this post right now but has to pretend he isn’t. So he’s clued in but “not really”. Don’t let me down, guys! Have fun!
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Xrod has been performing poorly with the key demographic all year. Would not be surprising if xrod got cancelled tbh.
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Is that even slightly relevant? Nonsensical, repetitive drivel as we have come to expect.
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Just gonna guess that xrod is posting the same three memes over and over again.
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I might have to ACTUALLY block him after this latest dunce moment.
We could always assume by his horrible reading comprehension that it would come to this but when you so arrogantly disregard a demo rating while clearly misunderstanding what the number literally means... there’s no coming back from that embarrassment. And he’d never admit his own stupidity. He’s likely stuck in a brain dead meme loop forever now. Game over for ol’ Derpy. It was fun while it lasted. |
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AEW is not likely to beat that 0.31 for people with cats between the ages of 18 and 34 this week. It’s a 0.29 and last week AEW got a 0.27. Can they see an increase in this very important and reflective demographic on cable television in 2020?
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Hahah WWE Developmental wins!
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NXT drops the elbow. That's two Thanksgivings in a row.
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The only ratings that matter are thread replies.
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Noid posted one comment about the number of posts on the last AEW PPV thread, and MULTIPLE people got so riled up they are STILL going out of their way to make only 1 post in WWE threads just to point out there is not a lot of posts. The only way to be a "good poster" here is to profess your love for every single thing AEW does, and occasionally go to a WWE thread to say WWE is bad. The People's All Elite Wrestling Website Just change the site name already, cause that's all this place is anymore. Signing off, enjoy TPAEWW everybody. |
AEW just fucking sucks. Too many people watch it, but you can't accuse Americans of having good taste.
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"You don't have good taste" from the guy who fantasy booked World Title wins for Val Venis and Doug Basham.
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Chris Cuomo now tops in cable news, would be curious to see the ratings for OANN/Newsmax...Hannity/Ingraham barely above 2 million now.
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Also, you are a Kane mark. I used to like Kane once upon a time too, but I grew the buds to realize how fucking daft that is too. |
Nah, early Kane was pretty great. I think It was also a Cornette idea. He based it on Michael Myers.
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We must give Noid his due for booking bland midcarders as world champions though since apparently WWE read his posts and have stolen that idea many times over the decade+ since.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW and NXT ratings aren't available yet, but Impact placed in the top 150 on Tuesday at #121. They scored 166K viewers, with a 0.05 in 18-49, which is about 15% of what AEW does in that demo. AEW and NXT ratings should be out shortly <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingInc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WrestlingInc</a> <a href="https://t.co/xcogoALtvD">pic.twitter.com/xcogoALtvD</a></p>— Raj Giri (@RajGiri_303) <a href="https://twitter.com/RajGiri_303/status/1334617383961554945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you great fans who made <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> Winter Is Coming a huge success for <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a> + <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a>! We got our best demo rating of 2020 + a new <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> Champion <a href="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KennyOmegamanX</a> + an indelible memory with Sting’s arrival, + won the night<br>AEW 913k P2+/543k P18-49<br>NXT 658k P2+/210k P18-49</p>— Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1334632627094085639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Lol he's such a front running bitch.
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What a beat down!
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting note on how AEW and NXT performed in terms of viewers year-to-year.<br>AEW:<br>Dec. 4, 2019: 851,000 viewers<br>Dec. 2, 2020: 913,000 viewers<br>NXT:<br>Dec. 4, 2019: 845,000 viewers<br>Dec. 2, 2020: 658,000 viewers</p>— Carlos Toro (@CarlosToroMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarlosToroMedia/status/1334638618342805504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Do you people not see how this is some of the stupidest shit ever? AEW: 2019-10-02 1,409,000 2020-09-30 866,000 2019-10-09 1,140,000 2020-10-07 753,000 2019-10-16 1,014,000 2020-10-14 826,000 2019-10-23 963,000 2020-10-21 753,000 2019-10-30 759,000 2020-10-28 781,000 2019-11-06 822,000 2020-11-04 717,000 2019-11-13 957,000 2020-11-11 764,000 2019-11-20 893,000 2020-11-18 850,000 2019-11-27 663,000 2020-11-25 712,000 2019-12-04 851,000 2020-12-02 913,000 LOOK AT THAT AMAZING YEAR TO YEAR GROWTH, paaaaweeze don count these weeks, not ewite |
xrodmuc and noid making fools out of everyone here.
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Hahaha, they only got 913k people. And they’re making a huge deal out of it. Dead.
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Poor WWE. Vince must be rolling in his grave.
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Any word on what percentage of AEW’s 18-49 demo has lost their virginity yet?
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I only 69 so I brought it down for sure.
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NOW the name makes sense.
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"The Biggest Episode of Dynamite EVER!" But also... STILL LESS THAN RAW!!!!!!!! :mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant::mad::rant: :mad::rant: :fu::fu::fu::fu::fu: |
Couldn’t even crack a mil with their version of Goldberg/Hogan. At least they’ve got that consistent draw Sting to come in and clean up for them.
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