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Innovator 08-07-2008 09:41 AM

The BTR board right now has the best thread ever, an example of it

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Rob 08-07-2008 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 2241838)
Yeah that was a good board. PP was alright too. I generally just follow Rob around wherever he goes.

F4W boards have been dog shit recently.

Kris P Lettus 08-07-2008 12:08 PM

Spencer Fisher vs Melvin Guillard at UFC 90

Quote:

MMAWeekly.com on Monday confirmed that Ultimate Fighting Championship lightweights Spencer “The King” Fisher and Melvin “The Young Assassin” Guillard will face each other at UFC 90 in Chicago on Oct. 25.

Both fighters have received bout agreements and are in the process of signing them.

Fisher, 32, is coming off a tough decision victory over sometime training partner Jeremy Stephens at the Ultimate Fighter Finale on June 21. The durable Miletich Fighting Systems fighter has won seven out of 10 performances in the Octagon since debuting at Ultimate Fight Night 2 in 2005. Though he slid against contenders Frankie Edgar and Hermes Franca in 2007, Fisher has always been considered among the top-tier in the division.

Guillard, 25, has had mixed results in the UFC after debuting on the second season of “The Ultimate Fighter.” The New Orleans native has faced a variety of personal issues outside the cage, despite several impressive performances since debuting at The Ultimate Fighter 2 finale in 2005. Guillard’s recent dispatch of Dennis Siver at UFC 86 was quick and explosive, two words that are often attributed to him.

Fisher’s trainer, Pat Miletich, is none too happy about the match-up.

“Spencer has no reason to fight that guy,” Miletich said. “I don’t think Melvin’s earned the right to fight him yet. I think Spencer should be fighting somebody where he’s got something to gain.”

Still, Miletich is confident that his student will emerge victorious.

“Spencer obviously would be the favored guy,” he continued. “Melvin’s a dangerous kid, but I don’t think Melvin’s a polished fighter at Spencer’s level.”

Fisher and Guillard were unreachable for comment.


Fuck Miletich and I hope Melvin beats Fishers ass..

The CyNick 08-07-2008 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2242193)
F4W boards have been dog shit recently.

Yeah, I feel like I cursed the place or something. It seemed like it was cool before, not a big fan of the whole splitting it up thing.

Rob 08-07-2008 12:19 PM

It was headed a bit shit but the split turned it completely.

Rob 08-07-2008 12:22 PM

What others are you on?

Kris P Lettus 08-07-2008 12:41 PM

Post the actual links you guys are talking about..

Kris P Lettus 08-07-2008 12:43 PM

mmaturf.net is the only mma board I frequent.. It was a spin off of mmashare.. Some of the mods got sick of the shitfest that is mmashare and made a new board with the best members.. It still small but it growing all the time.. Plus they have all the vids that share has..

Stickman 08-07-2008 06:11 PM

mmanews.com

Rob 08-07-2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2242218)
Post the actual links you guys are talking about..

www.f4wonline.com It's the new merged Observer/F4W site.

www.betweentheropes.com

Both boards are subscription only. For the audio content and the fact you both the Observer and Figure Four Daily online, it's worth the money for me. I'll probably subscribe to BTR too at some point.

The CyNick 08-07-2008 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2242209)
What others are you on?

I try to weed through the crap on Sherdog and post, but I find that board to be like wrestling boards in the mid-late 90s, where everything comes down to WWE vs WCW or in this case Zuffa vs the world.

Thats it right now. I have been posting the odd thing here on the wrestling forum, because I have been watching RAW a little more. But I dont watch the PPVs or SD, so its tougher than back in the day.

Nowadays I really only like places that talk about MMA.

Kris P Lettus 08-08-2008 09:55 PM

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Mir talks about Lesnar about 6 minutes in..

Reavant 08-09-2008 11:37 AM

I had one of the coolest conversations last night. So my buddy Titus Campbell fought Ricco Rodriguez last night. Oh and it was his first pro fight ever! He actually did pretty good and could have beat him but he got caught in a sub.

Anyway on the way there and on the way back I was in the car with Gideon Ray. The whole time he was just sharring stories and experiences about everything, but the shit he said about the UFC and the Ultimate fighter were unreal.

I dont have time right now to list all the stuff, but he had some awsome stories about the pranks that were pulled in the fighter house but then he has some serious horrer stories about the type of shit that the UFC pulls on people.

One thing that was rediculous was Mikey Burnett actually broke his neck in practice and he was told after the show that the UFC would pay for his surgury, and after the show they told him they wouldnt, and gideon taked to him recently... two years after the show and he still has a broken neck and cant fight anymore. Apparently he has to hussle private sessions for people to learn fighting oand shit like that just to make a living.

Ill put the other stuff later.

Kris P Lettus 08-09-2008 11:42 AM

Damn, that sucks for Burnett.. Gideon is the man, cept the last time I saw him, he was getting dominated in IFL..

Tito and Jenna are having a baby, FYI..

Kris P Lettus 08-09-2008 12:20 PM

Oh yeah and Mir was wrong about Herring "going the distance" with Fedor.. The fight was stopped at the end on the first (10:00 mins) due to a cut..

Kris P Lettus 08-09-2008 12:41 PM

UFC 87: Seek & Destroy:

Main Card

Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch for UFC Welterweight title
Brock Lesnar vs. Heath Herring
Kenny Florian vs. Roger Huerta
Demian Maia vs. Jason MacDonald
Manny Gamburyan vs. Rob Emerson

Undercard

Cheick Kongo vs. Dan Evensen
Tamdan McCrory vs. Luke Cummo
Chris Wilson vs. Steve Bruno
Tomasz Drwal vs. Andre Gusmao
Jared Rollins vs. Ben Saunders

*All fights officially confirmed by UFC.com.

I'm taking Kenflo, Lesnar, and GSP to win..

HeartBreakMan2k 08-09-2008 01:03 PM

Hesitantly going with Huerta, going with Brock out of personal bias plus I think he's too much for Heath, going GSP as well. Fitch is amazing but I just can't see him pushing GSP more than anyone else SHOULD have.

Rob 08-09-2008 01:11 PM

I heard some of the stories about TUF4 and Mikey Burnett's injury. All I'm saying he this was the same dude getting drunk running head first into walls. That's both impressive and smart when you have a broken neck.

UFC Predictions - GSP, Herring (heart says Lesnar) and Florian.

Fabien Barthez 08-09-2008 09:45 PM

I think Florian, Herring, GSP.

I think they are all so unpredictable though. So pumped for Fitch/GSP. If GSP dominates here, he has to legitimately look towards Anderson Silva. And that is without a doubt the fight I'd most like to see right now.

Any streams? I get Setanta Sept 21st. Happy day.

HeartBreakMan2k 08-09-2008 10:03 PM

I like these stats they're doing. Very interesting numbers to actually see.

Danny Electric 08-09-2008 10:09 PM

Watching it live on Setanta.
Anyone know the outcome of the Cummo fight, always like to see how he does since TUF2.

HeartBreakMan2k 08-09-2008 10:17 PM

Awesome, Awesome, Awesome first round.

You can definitely tell their in Minnesota. Wrestling towns appreciate the ground game more. If this was in Vegas the crowd would be booing.

HeartBreakMan2k 08-09-2008 10:18 PM

Jason just impressed the fuck out of me, I can't believe he worked out of that triangle among the other holds.

HeartBreakMan2k 08-09-2008 10:28 PM

Great way to open the card. Awesome first match.

HeartBreakMan2k 08-09-2008 10:39 PM

I'm such a Huerta mark. lol. Ever since hearing his story and meeting him once (genuinely cool fucking guy) i've been a huge mark for him. Hope he wins tonight.

HeartBreakMan2k 08-09-2008 10:58 PM

Damn, Huerta has a jaw like no other but I just don't know if he was there tonight. Like, Kenflo seemed to impose his will. Little eye opening for me I suppose.

Huerta is going to be a big deal given some time though.

Danny Electric 08-09-2008 11:13 PM

I just looked up and the fight was already finished.

CSL 08-10-2008 12:08 AM

I know jack shit about UFC, don't really have an interest in it but I had to go in the front and watch the Brock fight. Herring got fuuuucked up. I love how Brock seems to have some showman left in him

Reavant 08-10-2008 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2244454)
I heard some of the stories about TUF4 and Mikey Burnett's injury. All I'm saying he this was the same dude getting drunk running head first into walls. That's both impressive and smart when you have a broken neck.

UFC Predictions - GSP, Herring (heart says Lesnar) and Florian.

ill post more about what he said and stuff but its late and im tired

Destor 08-10-2008 05:54 AM

Lesnar.

Innovator 08-10-2008 10:39 AM

Poor Heath

Kris P Lettus 08-10-2008 11:56 AM

Lesnar looked much more poised than the last fight.. Pretty good stand up.. Punches looked very crisp and nice to see him throwing in leg kicks.. Dominant GnP even though he never shank in hooks while having Herring back..

He should grow a big gnarly beard..

Reavant 08-10-2008 12:18 PM

Hes too big to be throwing hooks in, and herring would hae escaped the possition had he tried.

Kris P Lettus 08-10-2008 12:58 PM

He did fine just riding his back.. The only thing that worried me was he never really tried to finish.. Awesome GnP and he remained in a dominant position like 98% of the fight, it's just he never really went for a sub or anything..

Crimson 08-10-2008 03:11 PM

Yea Brock needs alota work on submission attempts.

Huerta didn't look himself but that's credit to Kenflo I suppose..I thought he had won the 1st round but couldn't do shit in the last 2.

And GSP is still the man..Fitch is one tough sob he lasted all 5 rounds. He looks like a future champ in the division.

Reavant 08-10-2008 05:39 PM

I think brocks arms are too big to choke anyone. Seriously.

Rob 08-10-2008 08:11 PM

Much respect to Fitch, Herring and MacDonald. All fucking warriors. Lesnar looked amazing aside from a severe lack of submission skills. Also answered a hell of a lot of questions. GSP and Penn has to happen now. There is nobody at 170lbs except Thiago Alves left really. Rob Emerson is now also one of my favourite fighters purely for knocking that greasy Armenian into next week.

Splaya 08-10-2008 08:12 PM

Maybe it was just me but it looked like Brock tired out near the end of the fight, especially in the 3rd round

Splaya 08-10-2008 08:13 PM

Yeah Rob I agree, Jon Fitch is the man even though he didn't win. The beating he took was not the worst by far but it still ranked up there

Impact! 08-11-2008 12:13 AM

I'd pay to see GsP face Thiago Alves tbh

Rob 08-11-2008 01:04 PM

I couldn't give a fuck about watching Jon Fitch until last night. He got over more losing than he ever could have winning.

RP 08-12-2008 07:46 AM

ROFL his face was so fucked up. I'm sorry, but i saw nothing positive about Jon Fitch getting man handled by a frenchie for 5 rounds.

Rob 08-12-2008 01:45 PM

You mean aside from GSP not being able to finish him?

RP 08-12-2008 04:28 PM

Who cares? He dominated the guy. You wanna give the guy props for not being rendered unconcious? Comon.

Rob 08-12-2008 05:21 PM

I give the man props for taking an arse kicking and refusing to give up.

Fabien Barthez 08-13-2008 05:33 AM

I just got to the end of Lesnar/Herring, since this is the first time I've had the time to sit and watch it.

Brock was a fucking beast. All his strikes are vicious and powerful. he fucked Herring up with those knees, and his eye was pretty sick.

That being said, I lost a ton of respect for him at the end of the fight. There was no need for the horsing about (MTP) near the final bell, or to laugh in Heath's face when it sounded. I don't recall Frank Mir doing that to him when he was made to look like the worlds biggest chump that night. No class, man.

Right, on to the next squashfest.

Impact! 08-13-2008 07:19 AM

Gotta remember that Herring disrespected him at the beginning of the fight...

Reavant 08-13-2008 10:00 AM

how?

Innovator 08-13-2008 10:06 AM

Herring disrespected him by getting poked in the eye by the ref

Impact! 08-13-2008 10:45 AM

That

Rob 08-13-2008 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impact! (Post 2250338)
Gotta remember that Herring disrespected him at the beginning of the fight...

Nonsense. Even at the press conference, Brock was being a dick. If he wants a heel run then good for him. It will work. People want to like him though and he is doing zero to help that.

Kris P Lettus 08-14-2008 07:13 PM

GSP "postpones" Penn fight..

Quote:

It almost seemed BJ Penn had his eyes not only on the welter weight and light weight titles, but on Joe Silva's job as well. But before Penn fills in the rest of the card for the UFC's Dec. 27 event he might want to start looking for a new main event.

Originally reported by RDS.ca, Georges said this of his schedule:

"Many state that my next opponent should be BJ Penn. Nothing has obviously been signed yet, but he is my No. 1 challenger. I believe he deserves a chance to challenge me for my title, but we’ll see what happens on that matter in the next few weeks…

"On my end, however, I don’t know if I’ll be stepping back into the Octagon before 2009. I’ve fought four times in the last 12 months. I therefore need some rest. I like the life I lead, but I sometimes need to relax. It’s not the fight as such that’s exhausting; it’s all the preparation that comes with it.

I’ve made so many sacrifices to prepare myself. During training camps, I practically do not live anymore. It’s therefore on a psychological level that I need to recharge."

The rematch has been talked about ad nauseam since their first fight in 2006 and gets new life whenever GSP or Penn handily beats an opponent. Serious speculation on the super fight began again before GSP's fight with Jon Fitch when Penn announced he was fighting GSP on Dec. 27.

While GSP has stated that he'll gladly defend his title against anyone who deserves a shot he clearly doesn't want BJ Penn calling all the shots in regard to their rematch.

<hr>
Fine by me.. Sure I want to see this fight just as bad as anyone else but GSP def deserves to take time off.. Hopefully well see this fight next spring..

Prolly see Penn vs KenFlo before that..

RP 08-14-2008 10:17 PM

Ken Florian needs his shot cause he's a beast. Everyone talks like Florian was running, but that wasnt the case. He had a brilliant fight plan. Its not like the guy hasnt finished other people out. Huerta isnt the type you wanna just stand in fron of and trade blows. Huerta got out worked. Florian deserves the title shot, not some match with Edgar or Sherk.

But that said, i really wanna see Penn vs GSP. But GSP is right. He needs some time to rest. He's fought a ton of fights this year and now they want him to step in with BJ Friggin Penn. Comon. Let the guy rest til Febuary or March. If Penn deserves to get into the ring with GSP, he'll beat Florian.

But i'm rooting for Florian. I've been on about this guy for a while now. He's the real deal. Love his fighting.

Kris P Lettus 08-14-2008 11:51 PM

I love me some KenFlo too but if he wins, it would mad lessen the fight between GSP and Penn later on..

Kris P Lettus 08-14-2008 11:57 PM

Fedor Emelianenko greeted fans Tuesday at the new Affliction store in Los Angeles, California. Raw Vegas was on hand to interview the WAMMA heavyweight champion.Highlights:
  • Said he's interested in fighting Randy Couture to keep competing in the highest level and to reward fans who have supported the sport.
  • Said he has never said anything to insult UFC President Dana White. It's White's problems and he can go on living with whatever issues he has.
  • Said he likes Brock Lesnar very much. Although Fedor hasn't seen too much of Lesnar's fights, Fedor sees that Lesnar is very strong physically and is someone with a bright future and a lot potential. Lesnar is a fight Fedor would be interested in and Lesnar would definitely be a worthy opponent.
  • Doesn't think about anything before a fight. Frees himself of any emotion and thoughts that would complicate things. Paces back and forth to keep the blood flowing and not to get stagnant.


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Kris P Lettus 08-15-2008 12:00 AM

That's some bullshit they added in there about Dana though..

He is a fighter..

Kris P Lettus 08-15-2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Babalu Will Fight for Strikeforce at Playboy Mansion, Not for Affliction vs. Tito Ortiz

Posted Aug 13th 2008 5:56PM by Michael David Smith (author feed)
Filed under: Affliction

Although a Tito Ortiz vs. Renato "Babalu" Sobral match has been widely expected at the October 11 Affliction: Day of Reckoning event, it clearly isn't happening. Ortiz still hasn't signed his long-awaited Affliction contract, and now Babalu has agreed to fight for Strikeforce.

Strikeforce announced today that Babalu will challenge its light heavyweight champ, Bobby Southworth, at the Playboy Mansion on Saturday, September 20, and Strikeforce VP Mike Afromowitz confirmed to me via e-mail that Babalu will not fight on the October 11 Affliction card.

Affliction's October 11 card has some solid fights on it, but it's almost certain to be a money loser, and the inability to close the deal on the Babalu vs. Ortiz fight is a disappointment. Strikeforce doesn't spend the kind of money on star power that Affliction does, but Strikeforce clearly has a better understanding of how to run an MMA business than Affliction.
:(

Rob 08-15-2008 12:34 PM

Tito Ortiz hasn't signed with them yet so it wasn't gonna happen in October.

Kris P Lettus 08-15-2008 12:59 PM

Yeah, that's what the article said..

Reavant 08-16-2008 10:44 AM

i weighed in, was about to get taped up to warm up and the mother fucker team an cornermen came up to me and my coaches saying that he wasnt going to show... i fucking sold 37 tickets to my friends... i was soooooo pissed

Reavant 08-16-2008 10:44 AM

so i might fight in september but i dunno cuz ill be back in school

Kris P Lettus 08-16-2008 12:11 PM

Damn, bro..

Why do motherfuckers keep ducking you??

Innovator 08-16-2008 01:26 PM

Who would want to fight Shrek?

Don't worry Reav, think of it as more time to work on aspects of your game

Reavant 08-16-2008 02:43 PM

im so disappointed right now :-\

Rob 08-16-2008 03:07 PM

Should have done a wrestling style open challenge pal.

Reavant 08-16-2008 08:45 PM

my drunk friends said theyd step in

RP 08-23-2008 07:15 AM

I hope KJ Noons gets stripped of the belt because he's a punk bitch

Kris P Lettus 08-23-2008 12:14 PM

Yeah, he is quite the bitch..

Quote:

ELITEXC ANGLING FOR NOONS VS DIAZ 2 ON CBS

It has been nine months since K.J. Noons surprised many in the mixed martial arts world, winning the EliteXC 160-pound divisional title with a TKO stoppage of Ultimate Fighting Championship veteran Nick Diaz following the first round of their championship bout.

Noons followed up his title-winning performance with an impressive first round TKO finish of another UFC veteran in Yves Edwards.

Over that same span, Diaz has strung together a three-fight victorious streak, stopping Katsuya Inoue, Muhsin Corbbrey, and Thomas Denny, all by TKO. Now his camp is clambering for a rematch.

“His win over Thomas Denny was a crucial test for him. He needed to prove he could make weight and pass California's stringent anti-marijuana drug policy. Diaz easily made weight and passed the drug test,” said a recent post on GracieFighter.com, a site operated by Diaz’ trainer Cesar Gracie. “His recent wins have convinced EliteXC that his next fight should be a rematch with K.J. Noons at the Oct. 4 CBS show. However, it is still unclear if K.J.'s camp will take the fight.”

Apparently there isn’t that much of a cloud over Noons’ camp after all. According to EliteXC vice president Jared Shaw, the promotion has tried to make the fight happen and wants it to happen as part of the Oct. 4 event, but to no avail.

“Nick Diaz is the No. 1 contender. K.J. Noons should step up and be the champion that we think he is and take this fight. Nick Diaz will take this fight any place, anywhere,” Shaw told MMAWeekly.com. “(Noons’ management) won’t even return our calls.

“I don’t understand it. This fight on CBS is maximum exposure and the opportunity for maximum sponsorship dollars, way more than he could make on Showtime. At this point, I question his management.”

Shaw was quick to point out, however, that they support Noons as their champion. “We believe in K.J. as our champion. For some reason (his camp) is not coming straight out and saying no, but they are making it very difficult to make it happen.

“His manager doesn’t want us talking to him directly. Who knows what K.J. even knows about the situation, but his management is holding us hostage.”

With time winding down to be able to promote such a marquee fight properly for Oct. 4, Shaw seemed to be running out of hope that the bout would get done in time for the promotion’s third edition of CBS-EliteXC Saturday Night Fights. He did say, however, that EliteXC officials are ready to make the fight happen if Noons and his camp would agree to it.

“Hopefully K.J. wants the fight and hopefully he will instruct his management to take the fight,” commented Shaw. “K.J. signed a contract. All we want is for him to honor that contract, fight on Oct. 4 on CBS, and prove that he’s the champion we think he is. Right now, he’s not representing us as the EliteXC champion.”


Rob 08-23-2008 01:18 PM

He has no business making up his own rankings to decide who does and doesn't deserve title shots the little fucker. If he remembers right, he was lucky to even get a shot in the first place. Fucking little cunt.

UFC related - Cheick Kongo is avoiding fighting Brock Lesnar at all costs and GSP vs. Penn II looks like its on for January 31.

Vastardikai 08-23-2008 07:12 PM

^

Yeah, I've been losing respect for Noons as of late. Then again, he works for WWEliteXC. A little Sports-Entertainment in MMA isn't bad, but an MMA promotion BUILT around Sports Entertainment...

Kongo = smart. He would get decimated.

Kris P Lettus 08-23-2008 07:15 PM

I def see why Kongo wants to stay away from him.. He's a good striker but has little to no ground game.. Lesnar would take him down at will and GnP..

He has a "punchers chance" but really don't see him hurting Lesnar on their feet..

WOOOO GSP vs Penn though.. People on other sites are bitching cause Penn hasn't "earned" the title shot at welterweight..

LOL

Rob 08-23-2008 07:58 PM

Kongo isn't smart. He wants a title shot yet wants to pick his own opponents.

Penn not deserving a welterweight shot? Bollocks. You always should book the biggest title fight possible. This is the biggest fight out there at 170lbs.

Kris P Lettus 08-23-2008 10:40 PM

This is a response to me from a guy that was saying he needed to win some fights before getting a title shot..

Quote:

Yes, I am saying he needs to fight, and win at welterweight before he gets a title shot. I mean, come on, it's been over 4 years since he won a fight at 170, and since then, has had 2 fights, and 2 losses.

That does not constitute a title shot in my opinion.

His last fight at 170, was a title shot, directly after his loss to GSP, and he lost that too.

Why is he being given so many undeserved chances at the belt?

Sure, he is in a league of his own at 155, but in case you are unaware, that is not welterweight, that is a different weightclass altogether (who'd have thought?)

Rob 08-24-2008 05:30 AM

Well he got his first title shot at 170lbs without beating anyone in the division and he won the title. Randy Couture lost 2 straight fights at 205lb after going to that division after losing at 265lbs and he won the heavyweight title.

It's a load of bollocks anyway. If Lennox Lewis announced he was coming back to boxing today, he wouldn't be in line for a title fight on this logic.

RP 08-24-2008 07:18 AM

155 is a stacked division. I dont know if that guy you're talking to is aware of that. Huerta, Guida, Florian, Penn, Stevenson, Sherk, Franca, Edgar, Griffin. Thats a stacked division. It might be better then Welterweight.

RP 08-24-2008 07:51 AM

I'm calling this shit.

IMO, these matches from now to the end of the year will be the best matches

Karo Parisyan vs Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Spencer Fisher vs Melvin Guillard

Rob 08-24-2008 07:01 PM

I can't get excited over Parisyan or Guillard.

Kris P Lettus 08-24-2008 10:29 PM

Guillard is the f'n man..

:foc:

Rob 08-25-2008 01:22 AM

How is he anything other than a douchebag little cunt?

Rich Clementi will forever be a legend in my eyes for humbling this little fucker.

Reavant 08-25-2008 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2261242)
Kongo isn't smart. He wants a title shot yet wants to pick his own opponents.

Penn not deserving a welterweight shot? Bollocks. You always should book the biggest title fight possible. This is the biggest fight out there at 170lbs.

I wouldnt say hes as much picking his opponents as hes just avoiding lesnar. Which is smart if he wants to keep moving up the ladder at all.

Rob 08-25-2008 12:21 PM

If he got a title shot, they'd have him fight Lesnar. And he can't talk about title shots until he beats guys like Lesnar anyway.

McLegend 08-25-2008 08:48 PM

Rumor is Ken Shamrock vs Kimbo Slice on the eliteXc show on 10/4 or some date close to that.

Impact! 08-25-2008 11:42 PM

One can only hope for a double knockout then

Reavant 08-26-2008 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2262741)
If he got a title shot, they'd have him fight Lesnar. And he can't talk about title shots until he beats guys like Lesnar anyway.

i agree... but he needs to keep winning to keep himself relavant and a fight now with lesnar might kill his career

Kris P Lettus 08-28-2008 05:34 PM

Affliction 2 card

Andrei Arlovski Vs. Josh Barnett
Vladimir Matyushenko Vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
Ben Rothwell Vs. Pedro Rizzo
Jason High Vs. Mike Pyle
Paul Buentello Vs. Roy Nelson
Antonio Duarte Vs. Albert Rios
Chris Horodecki Vs. Dan Lauzon
Matt Lindland Vs. Trevor Prangley
Jay White Vs. Chase Gormley

They are gonna lose alot of money, methinks..

Kris P Lettus 08-28-2008 05:38 PM

Also,

Quote:

Lesnar lined up as Couture’s welcome back to the UFC

When Randy Couture decided to leave the UFC under a storm of controversy, he stated that only one fight made sense to close out his glittering career, a fight with the Russian star, Fedor Emelianenko. It would appear however that a new target has appeared on his radar and an announcement could be made as early as UFC 88 weekend.

That target seems to be former pro-wrestler, Brock Lesnar, who is fresh off an impressive display against Heath Herring at UFC 87. With Nogueira tied up with a clash against Mir in December and other UFC heavyweights not possessing the star power or interest to tempt Couture back to action, the UFC have turned to Lesnar to put together a fight that could smash every past event record.

Let’s put this into perspective. Lesnar’s PPV’s draw massive viewing figures even in his early mma career, drawing the pro-wrestling fans interested in seeing a former favourite compete. On top of that, the die hard mma fans would be desperate to see Couture back in action after over a year away and all of this would enable them to pay Couture the kind of money he seems to be seeking. In Portland Oregon, they also have the perfect venue, a 20,000+ arena, The Rose Garden, which could bare witness to one of the biggest fights in UFC history.

As we exclusively brought to you yesterday, Randy Couture is in talks with the UFC about a possible return to action, seeing out his four fight contract he signed when he came out of retirement to capture the heavyweight title. He has also begun training back at Xtreme Couture in Las Vegas in preparation for an upcoming fight rumoured to be in Portland Oregon at UFC 91.

By Michael Pepper

Rumors but interesting none the less..

Rob 08-28-2008 09:28 PM

Michael Pepper is such a fucking douchebag. He might as well post all the fucking rumours he reads on message boards and put them on the front page of this site that those fucking idiot "wrestling reporters" do.

Oh yeah, Rampage has a new fight camp now. Wolfslair in England. Surprised me. Thoughts guys?

Kris P Lettus 08-28-2008 09:29 PM

England??

Why is he leaving Big Bear??

Reavant 08-29-2008 11:26 AM

Hes batshit crazy?

Stickman 08-29-2008 12:18 PM

Some sort of wiring has been crossed in Rampage's brain man. I hope he gets it fixed.

Rob 08-29-2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 2266934)
Hes batshit crazy?

How's that?

Kris P Lettus 08-29-2008 01:48 PM

Supposed KJ Noons letter about the Diaz situation..

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by Luke Thomas on Aug 28, 2008 3:37 PM EDT in News


I have received an email from what appears to be KJ Noons himself. In this letter, Noons tells his side of the story regarding why he won't appear on the October 4th CBS show. In short, he accusses Pro Elite management of strong arm tactics, favoratism, negligence and incompetence. Here are his words in their entirety.




Noons vs Diaz or Noons vs EliteXC?

It is not about being scared to fight Diaz, who I previously defeated, it is about the fight I am currently in with Elite XC regarding my career.

I would first like to address all the false allegations and insults from Jared Shaw, aka $kala, VP of Elite XC. You will see why I am so disgusted of how Elite XC treated me and how it applies to this proposed fight and my career.

$kala says:

Honor my contract. Elite XC wants to talk about honoring the contract. How about when Elite XC honored the contract and my pay to fight Edson Berto went down after I lost my first fight. That was not part of my contract. Or how about the contract Gary Shaw breached by not promoting my boxing career? Gary Shaw only gave me one out of four of the agreed upon fights. I have not boxed for over a year. When I signed with Elite XC, I was promised they would promote both my boxing and MMA careers. I could have signed with another MMA only company, but I wanted to box too.

Elite XC does me a favor after I lose, by putting me on the first ShoXC against Edson Berto? Berto’s father is good friends with Jared’s father, Gary Shaw who wants Berto’s brother on a boxing contract. Berto was the next guy Elite XC wanted to build. But I win that fight and now I am 1-1. Elite XC gives me an opportunity to fight Diaz. Elite XC puts me against Diaz because Elite XC’s roster was so light and there was nobody else to fight him.

Elite XC creates a new weight class for Diaz because he beat Gomi. Giving Diaz a belt and creating a weight division (160) he can make, will make your belt legit. Sorry to ruin Elite XC’s plans and beat him.

Elite XC never promoted or took care of me as their champion.

Examples:

In the Elite XC’s DVD where Diaz and I fought there are two (2) baseball cards of Diaz and Kimbo. Hello! I won the fight and Elite XC’s promoting Diaz after I beat him? Or how about the day Elite XC flew Diaz in to do a signing on the DVD where he lost. Wow, that must have been uncomfortable Nick? Signing a DVD, and it is a fight that you lost. Why wasn’t I flown in for the signing?

Elite XC has never promoted me on either of their websites, EliteXC or Pro-Elite.

Elite XC offered me a fight on the first CBS show, but only if I signed a new long-term contract. Instead of promoting their best fighters on CBS, you have to be on a long term contract for them to promote you. That was not our deal.






Consider when Elite XC gives a couple thousand tickets away at their CBS show in Stockton.

Elite XC gives me a hard time about comping me one extra ticket for my cousin that helped me train for my fight. I only get four tickets per show. I am the main event in Honolulu, my home town! I did not ask for any tickets for my family and friends and they gave me a hard time about one extra ticket!

Or how about when Elite XC brought Diaz into the ring after my last victory in Hawaii to disrespect me and my family.

Chuck Champion (President Elite XC) threatens me, my family and my manager with lawsuits and how he’s going to sue me. HAHA. Pretty hard to sue a guy who does not make jack with your company. I’m glad $kala disclosed how much I make, which breached the confidentiality clause of the contract. I will break down the real numbers for you. I am the defending world champ, I have been the main event for Elite XC three out of four times on Showtime. In almost two years I have made approximately $83,000?

After paying my trainers and managers fee, I have $50,000 thousand. After taxes, probably 30 grand. Divide that by two years for $15,000 thousand a year. Divide by 52 weeks that amounts to approximately $300 a week. I do not know anybody that can survive on that amount of money. My buddies make more money than that in a couple days being a bus boy or bar back. And yes you can argue I should fight more. Elite XC doesn’t give me fights or promote me, they ice me. Gary Shaw Productions only gave me one of the agreed upon four fights per the boxing contract.

And I do not want to ramble on about all the little small stuff that I can keep going on about. But the straw that broke the camel’s back is they want me to fight Diaz for the second time. Diaz is not the number one contender and they are paying Diaz three times more money than me. Diaz complained after the Stockton fight, he was not paid enough. How do you think that made me feel? Yes you can argue that Diaz gets more for the draw, therefore I do not deserve as much compensation. If that is the case, it is a result of Elite XC terrible job promoting me. Instead of promoting me as their champ and upcoming athlete, Elite XC has resented me for ruining their plans to make Diaz their champ. That is just total disrespect. So it comes down to money and what is fair. I am tired of being bent over by Elite XC with no Vaseline.

I am right when I say Diaz is not the number one contender. Elite XC is trying to force this fight for their ratings. Eddie Alaverez is the number one contender and anybody with half a brain knows that a fight with Eddie is a way harder fight for me than Diaz. I will fight Diaz, but Elite has to be fair. I’m not ducking Diaz, why the hell would I be scared of someone I already beat.

With that being said, I am going to focus on my boxing career. I can make more money doing 6 and 8 rounders every other month and make more than I did being the Elite XC defending world champ. At least I will be able to sleep at night and be able to look myself in the mirror everyday. That right there is worth more than $300 bucks a week or fighting a guy I cannot stand for less money than him the second time around.

Will the Diaz fight happen, yes. Will the fight happen on Elite XC on October 4, 2008, probably not. The way things are being run by Chuck Champion, a guy whose history is newspapers, not fighting, and $kala, someone who talks a lot of game, but has never put on a pair of gloves, never stepped in a ring or cage. $kala has had everything handed to him with a silver spoon from daddy. Does anyone else but me think $kala just wants to be famous and stir up all this dirty laundry? I guess any publicity is good publicity. When I think about it, it has been good promotion for their October card since nobody is talking about it until you bring up the Noons vs. Diaz match up.

Before I end, I would like to thank my team, my trainers and workout partners for helping me prepare for my fights hours every day. I would like to also thank my manager Mark Dion for standing behind my decision making. I want to be a fighter who is not doing whatever I am being told like some kind of mindless puppet.

Thanks for hearing my side.



K.J. NOONS

Kris P Lettus 08-29-2008 01:51 PM

Here is the movie Redbelt, in it's entirety..

http://www.megavideo.com/v/LDAVWQJS9...4.1110700129.0

Kris P Lettus 08-29-2008 02:10 PM

National Geographic Masters of MMA series..

http://www.redux.com/playlist/master...nal_geographic

Reavant 08-29-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2266988)
How's that?

he gets in a police chase with his name and picture on the side of his truck and he thinks hes god

Rob 08-29-2008 03:29 PM

:lol: fair enough. I was thinking more thoughts of an American traveling to Europe to train full time though.

Reavant 08-29-2008 08:03 PM

well that adds to it for sure haha

Rob 08-30-2008 08:01 AM

To steal a line from another forum - "At least he knows how to drive on the left side of the road".

Rob 08-30-2008 08:02 AM

Randy Couture is talking with the UFC about returning to fight Brock Lesnar.

:D

Crimson 08-30-2008 11:01 AM

It would be like a live training session, with Brock getting schooled.


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