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Fignuts 03-11-2021 03:04 PM

Narc you are having the exact same conversation that a dozen other posters have had with xrod. Hes either feigning ignorance for laughs, or he genuinely does not get the difference between the genuine criticism people here have had with AEW, and his own.

drave 03-11-2021 03:22 PM

#1 Fan has proven the latter to be true, multiple times.

Jordan 03-11-2021 03:25 PM

On Noid...

It's whatever. He doesn't like AEW, it really doesn't matter of he does or not. I think he's very frustrated with Wrestling j general which I totally understand, and specifically with AEW because his hope for something that would satisfy him here shattered early on.

I also have some major issues with the state of pro wrestling. For me the major problem is the PWG style influence which is a double edged sword for me. One side super cool and fun and the other super fake and inconsistent. However I was really pleased with the majority of this week's Dynamite except the women and headed to St. Patrick's Day Slam I'm definitely into it. I will say I have no interest in watching Dark: Elevation though based on the matches announced.

Xrod at least does continue to watch AEW which I didn't realize until recently so I actually appreciate his point of view because it's at least fair. Ultimately I just want to say don't engage in a conversation that is going to derail a topic. This page is actually a lot better when we have actual debates and don't get into personal attacks.

GD 03-11-2021 03:42 PM

AEW do need to step up their presentation in terms of audio, camera cuts, blocking and branding. A lot of it comes across as subpar when compared to WWE or even TNA Impact from the mid ‘00s.

Volare 03-11-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5434901)

This page is actually a lot better when we have actual debates and don't get into personal attacks.


drave 03-11-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeletor (Post 5434906)
AEW do need to step up their presentation in terms of audio, camera cuts, blocking and branding. A lot of it comes across as subpar when compared to WWE or even TNA Impact from the mid ‘00s.




This is their biggest, glaring flaw. Reminds me almost exactly of WCW.

Bad News Gertner 03-11-2021 04:54 PM

Hehe

Mr. Nerfect 03-11-2021 06:49 PM

They’ve taken the worst parts of WCW, TNA, ECW, PWG and the WWE and rolled it into this weird wannabe hybrid.

Take even just the MJF segment this week:

WCW: The story doesn’t make sense. Why did MJF join the Inner Circle when he just wanted his own group all along.

TNA: So much going on and it all looked so silly. Lots of of WWE rejects flopping around.

ECW: The lights off/lights on trope — WHICH MAKES NO SENSE!!!

PWG: The self-indulgent nature of it, the crowd marking out to see themselves marking out.

WWE: “The Chairman” Shawn Spears taking it to Sammy Guevara! The commentary is so fucking awful.

That’s just one segment, and it was possibly one of the best ones on the show.

Nark Order 03-11-2021 07:19 PM

I don't know, I can't really buy the "WWE Reject" thing. I suppose if their entire roster was only that, that would be a little lame. The idea that if someone worked for WWE that they can never work for another televised wrestling show, that's silly. Thwre's only like 4 or 5 "non-indie" promotions thay aren't WWE, the guys thay want at least some sort of exposure/pay are going to go to one of them. I kind of look at AEW like it's if NJPW, AAA, WWE, Impact, and the Indies all had an interconnected battleground. There's guys from everywhere.

Nark Order 03-11-2021 07:24 PM

TNA was probably the most egregious with that. At one point their entire roster was mostly old WCW/WWE guys and they weren't pushing their home grown guys much at all. So far AEW is not that and let's hope it never becomes that. Seems like probably not from the mix of talent they have.

xrodmuc316 03-11-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5434897)
Narc you are having the exact same conversation that a dozen other posters have had with xrod. Hes either feigning ignorance for laughs, or he genuinely does not get the difference between the genuine criticism people here have had with AEW, and his own.

It's real critism, I've never said something AEW did was bad but really secretly liked it.

But yes, people get worked up over nothing.

Look at Slik over in the ratings thread. Despite him being one of the best posters here, I made a comment that Dynamite couldn't even get a Million rating with Shaq and Big Show because it's funny.

Slik deleted my comment and locked the thread. That is not a logical response to somebody joking about AEW missing 1 million viewers by 26,000 people.

It's just easier to say somebody is "trolling" when they have a different view instead of trying to have an actual discussion. Do I get bored and lean into being a little extra, guilty. Do I get annoyed and a little less fun once in a while, also yes.

None of that changes the actual issue that if I say something negative about AEW, it's because I didn't like something they did, and if I joke about something AEW did, it's because I thought it was funny. There is no reason for anybody to get as upset as they do.

P.S., glad you are back Figgy, wasn't the same during your absence.

Volare 03-12-2021 12:03 AM

xrod 4k posts...knew figgy was back 50k posts....hmmmmmmm.....

xrodmuc316 03-12-2021 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Volare (Post 5435074)
xrod 4k posts...knew figgy was back 50k posts....hmmmmmmm.....

I have no idea what you are trying to convey.

GD 03-12-2021 01:38 AM

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

GD 03-12-2021 03:41 AM

Also, Jim Ross needs to get off commentary. I cannot tell you how many times he has sucked the joy out of anything cool that’s happening.

GD 03-12-2021 03:44 AM

I don’t expect Ross to be aware of Christian’s music but JFC his blabbering on Dynamite was atrocious. Not Todd Grisham level bad but still horrendous.

Nark Order 03-12-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5435015)
It's real critism, I've never said something AEW did was bad but really secretly liked it.

But yes, people get worked up over nothing.

Look at Slik over in the ratings thread. Despite him being one of the best posters here, I made a comment that Dynamite couldn't even get a Million rating with Shaq and Big Show because it's funny.

Slik deleted my comment and locked the thread. That is not a logical response to somebody joking about AEW missing 1 million viewers by 26,000 people.

It's just easier to say somebody is "trolling" when they have a different view instead of trying to have an actual discussion. Do I get bored and lean into being a little extra, guilty. Do I get annoyed and a little less fun once in a while, also yes.

None of that changes the actual issue that if I say something negative about AEW, it's because I didn't like something they did, and if I joke about something AEW did, it's because I thought it was funny. There is no reason for anybody to get as upset as they do.

P.S., glad you are back Figgy, wasn't the same during your absence.

No, I want to be clear. I don't just randomly go around accusing posters of trolling. I'm doing it here because there's not much other of an explanation for why you're doing this. I had to go 8 pages into your post history to find posts that weren't about AEW. That was the Elimination Chamber PPV. But before that it goes on for several more pages in a row as well. You have a promotion that you don't like and you talk about it on a message board almost exclusively and are a negative shit rag about it 90% of the time. What would you call that? I would either call it trolling or mining for attention. It's really odd behavior.

Nark Order 03-12-2021 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5435015)
It's just easier to say somebody is "trolling" when they have a different view instead of trying to have an actual discussion. Do I get bored and lean into being a little extra, guilty. Do I get annoyed and a little less fun once in a while, also yes.

Pretty sure you just described like 2 of the 3 elements of trolling.

Trolling is essentially:

Being "over the top"
Taking the fun out of everything
Trying to elicit a negative reaction

I find you guilty of 3rd degree trolling in forum court.

Nark Order 03-12-2021 08:32 AM

Now stop being a huge cunt waffle and just be a contributing member of the community.

screech 03-12-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Narkseid (Post 5435111)
You have a promotion that you don't like and you talk about it on a message board almost exclusively and are a negative shit rag about it 90% of the time. What would you call that? I would either call it trolling or mining for attention. It's really odd behavior.

"But I watch AEW so OBVIOUSLY I don't hate it! :roll: :rofl:"

screech 03-12-2021 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Narkseid (Post 5435114)
Now stop being a huge cunt waffle and just be a contributing member of the community.

Motion to have this pop up as a message on the main page somewhere.

Volare 03-12-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5435082)
I have no idea what you are trying to convey.

How you know Figgy from "way back" when your account is new here.....nothing more sir.

drave 03-12-2021 08:47 AM

just a TPWW Observation

Jordan 03-12-2021 09:16 AM

Are you saying Xrod could be Kane Knight?

Volare 03-12-2021 09:22 AM

Not adding anymore speculation. Just seemed odd.

Nark Order 03-12-2021 09:34 AM

Does xrod have a sexual fetish involving strawmen?

drave 03-12-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Narkseid (Post 5435136)
Does xrod have a sexual fetish involving Strowmen?


Lock Jaw 03-12-2021 09:41 AM

Bronk Strawman

Nark Order 03-12-2021 09:47 AM

Listen, this forum has a wild wild west nature to it and banning isn't an option, nor would I propose it. But the free market solution to these dishonest wrestling forum actors would be the create a wrestling forum dunce/shame list. Unfortunately we might have to treat them like children for a bit.

Wehttam 03-12-2021 09:58 AM

what will you be making them for lunch?

Nark Order 03-12-2021 10:01 AM

Well, I guess that would depend on whether they clean their room or not, wouldn't it?

GD 03-12-2021 10:02 AM

The issue is you’ll have to be as persistent as them. Most of us are past that point and have accepted our fates.

GD 03-12-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeletor (Post 5435090)
Also, Jim Ross needs to get off commentary. I cannot tell you how many times he has sucked the joy out of anything cool that’s happening.

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Originally Posted by Skeletor (Post 5435091)
I don’t expect Ross to be aware of Christian’s music but JFC his blabbering on Dynamite was atrocious. Not Todd Grisham level bad but still horrendous.

Personally, Michael Coke is much bearable than AEW Jim Ross.

Volare 03-12-2021 10:05 AM

Michael Coke....hmmmmmm.

Volare 03-12-2021 10:05 AM

Would've gotten way more over with that name.

screech 03-12-2021 10:08 AM

I know JR isn't great right now, but to me Cole is at the bottom. It's not all his fault [since he has to read a bunch of shitty buzzwords/phrases] but he sounds like he's been phoning it in for years.

screech 03-12-2021 10:08 AM

Also yes, Michael Coke would be more over.

But would he suck any less?

screech 03-12-2021 10:09 AM

That's unfair. He's had the job for decades so he's doing something right. He just isn't for me.

Wehttam 03-12-2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Narkseid (Post 5435153)
Well, I guess that would depend on whether they clean their room or not, wouldn't it?

now you're just asking too much

screech 03-12-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Narkseid (Post 5435148)
Listen, this forum has a wild wild west nature to it and banning isn't an option, nor would I propose it. But the free market solution to these dishonest wrestling forum actors would be the create a wrestling forum dunce/shame list. Unfortunately we might have to treat them like children for a bit.

Pretty sure I nominated that the Forum Dunce Award be renamed for xrod.

I definitely thought about making that post, anyway.


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