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11-18-2016 11:05 PM |
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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead
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Why do you possibly think you have any insight on this other than being a desperate homer
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Manny Machado has been open to the Baltimore Sun saying he wants to stay in Baltimore with a long term deal. His agent had talks back this off-season with team officials about the matter BEFORE they made the Chris Davis deal. They made the Davis deal knowing roughly what Manny wants in order to stay an Oriole. They wouldn't have done the Davis deal if they knew it would prevent them from keeping Machado which is 80% of the reason people give as to why they can't resign Machado.
Also in hot stove action I saw thisc pisted
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Baltimore Orioles trade 3B Manny Machado, RHP Darren O’Day to Los Angeles Dodgers for LHP Julio Urias, OF Yasiel Puig, 1B Cody Bellinger, UTIL Charlie Culberson, RHP Yadier Alvarez and SS Gavin Lux
So, let’s say you’re the Orioles. You’re playoff team, with a good offense, good defense, a stellar bullpen, a mediocre rotation and no real farm system to speak of. Your best player is going to be a free agent in two years, and there is no chance you are going to be able to re-sign him. There’s a firm foundation around him, enough that you’re pretty sure you’ll be in the playoff hunt each of the next two years. But after 2018, everything goes up in the air. Do you stay the course for two years and hope one year is magic? Or do you cash in on your perennial MVP candidate and build a roster whose window extends years beyond what it did before?
Let’s build the blockbuster of the offseason.
The Orioles need pitching. That’s step one. If they’re going to trade their MVP candidate and give him to a team that will control him for two years and has the pockets to extend him beyond that, they’re gonna require a damn good major league ready, controllable, young starting pitching talent. The epitome of that in the big leagues at this moment is Urias, the prodigy who just turned 20 years old in August and had a rocky but overall promising first turn against big league hitters. He could be a future ace. That’s where you start.
Arms are a risky gamble, though, no matter where they come from. So, you need insurance. Do they have a young major league ready guy who can supplant some of Machado’s power from the right side of the plate as soon as he arrives? Get him. Do they have another near-ready position playing prospect at the top of their system? Get him too. This is Manny Machado we’re talking about.
Remember why you started this, though. You need arms. Go get another top-100 pitching prospect out of their system. And it wouldn’t hurt to have another infielder. Did the other team just draft one of those in the first round? Good. Grab him too. And throw in another utility infielder who can act as a 25th man type while you’re at it.
There’s a lot of talent flying both ways, but who says no to this? The Dodgers now have three guys who are going to be MVP candidates each of the next two seasons in Machado, Corey Seager and Clayton Kershaw. They also grab a time-tested, consistent back-of-the-bullpen arm in Darren O’Day. You can never have too many of those.
Losing Urias hurts, but they still have Jose De Leon ready to enter what is already a crowded (if oft-injured) stable of starting-caliber arms. Bellinger would be great to have, but they already have Adrian Gonzalez at first base for a while. We know they’ve been shopping Puig, and losing Lux doesn’t hurt much because, you know, Corey Damn Seager.
For the Orioles, you’ve rebuilt a large segment of the franchise. Urias is a huge boost to your rotation, for starters. Bellinger could come in and boot Davis into the DH role full-time, or could even play in the corners. Puig replaces Mark Trumbo in right, and is a great candidate to bounce back to form in a new environment far away from LA. Lux is a legitimate shortstop of the future candidate, if a bit of a long-term project, and another pitching prospect who could end up being a future No. 2 starter.
It does create a big hole on the left side of the infield for Baltimore, though. Which brings me to my final deal:
Baltimore Orioles trade OF Adam Jones to Cincinnati Reds for 3B Eugenio Suarez, LHP Brandon Finnegan and RHP Rookie Davis
The “Reds make a win-now move for a veteran leader-type” move that Wickster’s been buzzing about in these parts for a while now. For this one, I used the Scott Rolen deal for reference. Then, the Reds traded a major league third baseman along with two exciting but ultimately disappointing arms to the Blue Jays for a 34 year-old Rolen. So, I went into this with the same idea.
Suarez, 25, has made some great strides toward being a productive big league regular in the hot corner. With incoming top prospect Nick Senzel only about a year away from (hopefully) taking over the everyday third base spot, along with Jose Peraza and Dilson Herrera ready to take over the middle of the infield for the future, Suarez could still find himself on the outside looking in.
In addition to unloading Suarez, the Reds also give away a durable, young arm in Finnegan who has proven himself ready to take on big league hitters as a starter and could jump right into the middle of the Orioles’ rotation. They also add in Rookie Davis, a top ten prospect in the Reds’ system who projects as a mid-rotation starter and is close to being able to contribute at the big league level.
Jones, meanwhile, could slide into right field for the Reds to with Jesse Winker in left and Billy Hamilton in center. He’s always hovered around average defensively in center, so there’s little doubt he could handle right. He’s coming off a season in which he was worth just 1.1 bWAR, his first season of fewer than 3.0 bWAR since 2010. That was largely due to a dip in slugging, but it could be worth gambling on that just being a blip, as Jones remains just 31 and still knocked out 29 homers in 2016. He’ll be due $33.7M over the next two seasons, but with the Reds having little to spend money on outside of Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips and Homer Bailey, that won’t be a dealbreaker, especially if the Reds aren’t giving up any of their top seven or eight prospects to get him.
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I can't see either if these trades happening but I had a good lol reading them |
