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Droford 09-29-2011 01:03 AM
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com.../t/tony/04.jpg

aw come on, you know what he'd say

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2011 01:04 AM
Best Red Sox team EVER

Dragon 09-29-2011 01:04 AM
Red Sox season hinges on the beaten down arm of Scott Proctor

Droford 09-29-2011 01:04 AM
Now come on Rays. Finish the Red Sox!

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 01:05 AM
<font color=goldenrod>RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!</font>

Loose Cannon 09-29-2011 01:06 AM
lol Scott Proctor. come on

weather vane 09-29-2011 01:06 AM
FUCK!

Droford 09-29-2011 01:06 AM
LONGORIA!

DaveWadding 09-29-2011 01:06 AM
LONGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2011 01:06 AM
EVA

Loose Cannon 09-29-2011 01:06 AM
HOME RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aguakate 09-29-2011 01:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3641075)
LOL, and there I say, he may be right!

RAYS WIN!

Loose Cannon 09-29-2011 01:07 AM
wow, that's was like a movie

Droford 09-29-2011 01:07 AM
HAHAHA

Emperor Smeat 09-29-2011 01:07 AM
Yankees finished up their part of the tank job.

TB vs Texas in a rematch of last year's divisional round.

Worst collapse in both MLB and Red Sox history officially completed. Not sure if the Braves own the NL record or the Mets still hold it.

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 01:07 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Easily the craziest night of baseball in history.</font>

Droford 09-29-2011 01:09 AM
I honestly dont believe the last 20 minutes I just saw, let alone the last couple hours

Aguakate 09-29-2011 01:09 AM
This Tampa Bay Rays team has a "2004 Red Sox" feel about them...maybe even more dramatic.

WOW.

weather vane 09-29-2011 01:11 AM
Fuck you Yankees.
Fuck you Orioles.
Fuck you Rays.
Fuck you Papelbon.
Fuck you Crawford.
Fuck you TPWW.

Droford 09-29-2011 01:12 AM
Im not gonna be able to sleep..damnit

Aguakate 09-29-2011 01:15 AM
We just witnessed a historic night in baseball. It'll be talked about for years.

WOW.

Fuck a 2nd Wild Card team. We're fine as we are!

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 01:22 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Seriously like every team in the playoffs now except the Yanks and Phils. Could be some classic games.</font>

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 01:24 AM
<font color=goldenrod>ROFL @ the reaction from the guys in the MLB Network studios. That was incredible.

"ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?"</font>

Aguakate 09-29-2011 01:27 AM
LOL it's so true, what Harold Reynolds said. Coming into the season, the "big news" out of Tampa were the signings of Johnny Damon and Manny Ramirez. THAT WAS IT. Carlos Pena was gone, Carl Crawford was gone, Matt Garza was gone.

Who would've thought that Carl Crawford, who signed with Boston, would be at home watching the Rays in the Playoffs?

So incredible.

Droford 09-29-2011 01:29 AM
Os beat the Red Sox 5 times out of 7 in the last 10 days.

Wish it were the Yankees going home, but the Red Sox are the next best..

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 01:32 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Carl Crawford may never be able to win the Boston fans over. Bad year, fucks up to cost the Sox the game, and then it immediately launches his old team into the playoffs.</font>

Droford 09-29-2011 01:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3641111)
Carl Crawford may never be able to win the Boston fans over. Bad year, fucks up to cost the Sox the game, and then it immediately launches his old team into the playoffs.
sounds like a conspiracy

Emperor Smeat 09-29-2011 01:36 AM
Can't blame it on him though since he finally started hitting good enough and for a while was the #1 hitter for the month in the entire league.

The pitching (1 win between Beckett and Lester till yesterday) and the bullpen killed the team the entire month. Francona also takes some of the blame for not reacting quicker along with the GM who had no backup plan once Buccholz went down.

Tampa's #1 starter was horrible today but the Yankees tanked enough to put him off the hook and Tampa's series against the Red Sox helped them a lot for the month.

Aguakate 09-29-2011 01:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3641111)
<font color=goldenrod>Carl Crawford may never be able to win the Boston fans over. Bad year, fucks up to cost the Sox the game, and then it immediately launches his old team into the playoffs.</font>
Papelbon is going to get murdered tomorrow on every Boston newspaper, too lol

Nervous Ferret 09-29-2011 01:38 AM
This was an amazing evening

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 01:40 AM
<font color=goldenrod>My order of preference for WS champions:

1. Tigers (soft spot for Detroit teams, plus Verlander is the man)
2. Rays (may as well be 1-A, incredible story)
3. Diamondbacks (worst to first, and then some...can't go wrong)
4. Brewers
5. Rangers
6. Cardinals
7. Phillies
8. Yankees

Honestly 4-6 are basically interchangeable, but I'd be happy with any of them. The top 6 teams to me will pretty much just be the Alliance to End PhilkeeMania</font>

Droford 09-29-2011 01:48 AM
I swear I hope we dont get Yankees/D-Backs 10 years later.

Kinda wanna see Brewers vs Rangers for some reason

Droford 09-29-2011 01:55 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Lm1tg.png

bahaha

OssMan 09-29-2011 02:02 AM
Tremendous

Everything is tremendous

The Fraze 09-29-2011 02:11 AM
Simultaneous walk off wins, Yankees AND Red Sox lose! Delicious.

Aguakate 09-29-2011 02:16 AM
There'll be none of this this post-season lol

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HpiSisT13J8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

OssMan 09-29-2011 02:17 AM
They weren't showing Baltimore/Boston everywhere else? We were flipping through all three games like mad

SammyG 09-29-2011 02:19 AM
Alright, Kemp for MVP and Kershaw for NL Cy Young.

McLegend 09-29-2011 02:26 AM
Not gonna lie... I wanted the Phillies to lose. I much rathe have a shot at facing the Braves then The Cardinals.

Either way though... I'm not that worried.

RP 09-29-2011 02:36 AM
Can't wait for Terry Francona to be managing the Cubs next season.

Droford 09-29-2011 02:42 AM
My doppleganger isn't gonna get a 2nd year?

ClockShot 09-29-2011 03:36 AM
Wish I could have stayed up. I'll just say this.

The mets are off the hook.

Triple Naitch 09-29-2011 05:43 AM
I hate and love baseball.

Go Phillies.

ClockShot 09-29-2011 08:09 AM
Geez. Where do I begin this morning. Here's one from the New York Post.


http://www.newyorkpost.com/rw/nypost...7--430x180.jpg

New York Post.

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 08:27 AM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/doM9gRp1zj8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 08:35 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Anybody care to make some predictions?

Yankees over Tigers in 4
Rangers over Rays in 5
Phillies over Cardinals in 3
Brewers over Diamondbacks in 4

Yankees over Rangers in 7
Phillies over Brewers in 6

Yankees over Phillies in 6

---

Will prolly change my mind by tomorrow afternoon, but whatevs.</font>

Innovator 09-29-2011 08:35 AM
I've waited 7 years for this.

Suck it Boston.

ClockShot 09-29-2011 08:37 AM
Go look on espn.com in the headlines section. The give Boston the word "out", while they put "collapse" on the Braves.

:nono:

Innovator 09-29-2011 08:43 AM
Red Sox were up 9 games early in the month. COLLAPSE. COLLAPSE COLLAPSE COLLAPSE COLLAPSE. Lackey! Crawford! 1927 Yankees! Sweet Caroline!

Innovator 09-29-2011 08:45 AM
With that said, Ellsbury had an amazing year, and except for last night Papelbon came back big from '10.

ClockShot 09-29-2011 09:29 AM
Dennis & Callahan on NESN this morning is fun to watch.

Triple Naitch 09-29-2011 09:30 AM
Tigers over Yankees in 5 (Verlander is gonna pitch 3 times)
Rangers over Rays in 5
Phillies over Cardinals in 4
Brewers over Diamondbacks in 3

Tigers over Rangers in 6 (ALCS MVP: Justin Verlander)
Phillies over Brewers in 5 (NLCS MVP: Cliff Lee)

Phillies over Tigers in 6

WS MVP: Roy Halladay

MVP 09-29-2011 10:14 AM
I wish I could have watched the games last night as a non-Red Sox fan so I could have actually enjoyed what an epic night it was for baseball.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2011 10:15 AM
omg so epic

RP 09-29-2011 10:23 AM
I think it will be Texas vs Brewers. I honestly believe Texas is the best in the AL. Good pitching. Great bullpen, great bats. World Series experience last year. No one is talking about them. I think the Rangers win it all.

Innovator 09-29-2011 10:30 AM
I had to get that out of my system, I like all the Red Sox fans on the board.

I'm worried about Detroit and Texas, both are peaking at the right time. Texas's offense is unreal and they always hit us. Yankees can't figure out Verlander or how to get Cabrera out.

RP 09-29-2011 10:51 AM
I'm really intrigued by every matchup

Innovator 09-29-2011 10:52 AM
Do the pink hat fans know the season is over?

Triple Naitch 09-29-2011 12:44 PM
I really do hate the Rays more than the Yankees. They spend all year biting your ankles in an empty stadium and then come September the fans decide to show up and give themselves Mohawks and cover themselves in blue. If I lived in a great baseball city with a bad team, like Kansas City or Pittsburgh I would still hate them just as much. The Yankees do have their fair amount of diehard fans who will support the team no matter how bad they suck.

Triple Naitch 09-29-2011 12:46 PM
And I can't stand Dick Vitale as the unofficial spokesman for the team.

McLegend 09-29-2011 01:15 PM
Jose Reyes is a joke.

Innovator 09-29-2011 01:27 PM
What's not a joke is WEEI right now.

MVP 09-29-2011 01:37 PM
Can't stand WEEI.

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by McLegend (Post 3641463)
Jose Reyes is a joke.
He's also better than your shortstop. I actually went to the Phillies message board and, sure enough, they were blasting him...giving him more hate than I've seen one fanbase give a player. All for a guy who, yesterday excluded, has been a class act since he entered the league.

Bet the fans will change their tone if he joins the Phillies.....not out of the realm of possibility given that Rollins has said he wants 5 years.

Innovator 09-29-2011 01:53 PM
Vito, Reyes is gone. You don't have to defend him anymore.

McLegend 09-29-2011 01:56 PM
Lol you are pathetic. If Reyes wasn't a Met you would be ripping him.

McLegend 09-29-2011 02:00 PM
And you are most negative person ever. You bash the Mets for everything, but yet you won't say anything bad about a total bush league move by the Mets best player?

C'mon now

Aguakate 09-29-2011 03:09 PM
I honestly can't predict who's going to win each Series and who will make the World Series...it's THAT unpredictable.

All 8 teams have a great shot.

Hardkore Kidd J 09-29-2011 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3641307)
With that said, Ellsbury had an amazing year, and except for last night Papelbon came back big from '10.

I don't know about Paps. If I remember correctly the exact game before he nearly ended the Sox right there on Tuesday. I really don't think Papelbon will be back in a Sox uniform. If I were them I would either take my chances with Bard or trade for another closer.

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 03:20 PM
I've already said it was a bad move on his part, because almost everybody at the game went to see him. Some people probably got to their seats late and missed seeing Reyes' likely last Mets game.

As far as the batting title goes, I'm not too bothered by it because he's hardly the first guy to do this. And it seems like a silly award for him to get worked up about in general, batting average is nice but hardly a huge achievement. It'd be more impressive had he not missed about a month's worth of at-bats.

Evil Vito 09-29-2011 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3641539)
I honestly can't predict who's going to win each Series and who will make the World Series...it's THAT unpredictable.

All 8 teams have a great shot.
Yeah, this feels like the first year in quite some time where it's wide open. Phillies are even money favorites but it's really a toss up. Expecting to be dead wrong on my predictions.

MVP 09-29-2011 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J (Post 3641544)
I don't know about Paps. If I remember correctly the exact game before he nearly ended the Sox right there on Tuesday. I really don't think Papelbon will be back in a Sox uniform. If I were them I would either take my chances with Bard or trade for another closer.
I think Bard showed this year that he isn't ready to be a closer. He's been bad on the road, and he was pretty miserable overall in the last 2 months of the season. Although it sounds like it's mostly mental so the ability is there.

Papelbon rebounded from 2010. He didn't allow a run from July 17 until September 20, then he blew two games including last night. If Pap isn't re-signed next season it'll be because he and the front office don't see eye-to-eye on a new contract. I think he wants 4 years if I remember correctly.

Innovator 09-29-2011 03:45 PM
I'd love to see Yankees vs. Arizona, with Mo closing the door on them FINALLY.

Aguakate 09-29-2011 03:57 PM
I'd love to see the Rays or Rangers vs the Brewers in the World Series.

Emperor Smeat 09-29-2011 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVP (Post 3641558)
I think Bard showed this year that he isn't ready to be a closer. He's been bad on the road, and he was pretty miserable overall in the last 2 months of the season. Although it sounds like it's mostly mental so the ability is there.

Papelbon rebounded from 2010. He didn't allow a run from July 17 until September 20, then he blew two games including last night. If Pap isn't re-signed next season it'll be because he and the front office don't see eye-to-eye on a new contract. I think he wants 4 years if I remember correctly.
Agree. Red Sox have to at least be somewhat competitive in the bidding war for him because Bard basically went south in progression and even when he was good this season, he still had issues with HRs and bad hits.

2nd year in a row where the bullpen caused too many problems especially once the final month occurred.


I got Phillies vs Tigers as the favorites for the WS although I could see the Phillies get eliminated in a shock against the Cardinals.

Nark Order 09-29-2011 06:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YLVQl.jpg

Sox. Sheesh

Nark Order 09-30-2011 12:28 AM
Quote:
Perfect: Dodgers’ Eugenio Velez sets record with 0-for-37 season

By David Brown
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_i...for_season.jpg

Hank Aaron has been quoted as saying: "Guessing what the pitcher is going to throw is 80 percent of being a successful hitter. The other 20 percent is just execution." But then there's Eugenio Velez(notes).

A reserve infielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers, he set a Major League Baseball record Wednesday night, grounding out in his only at-bat to finish the 2011 season 0 for 37.
No hits. Thirty-seven at-bats. Never before in modern baseball history had a non-pitcher with that many at-bats gone hitless in a season. As Grant Bisbee of SB Nation noted in a Velez appreciation post on Sept. 1, Hal Finney went 0 for 35 for the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1936.
But wait, there's more (or less)! Going back to 2010, Velez is hitless over his past 46 at-bats, which also is a record — in the view of some. Four players, including Milwaukee's Craig Counsell(notes) this season, had gone 0 for 45. In 1909, Brooklyn's Bill Bergen did likewise, as did San Diego/St. Louis/Houston's Dave Campbell (recently of ESPN) in 1973.
That's if you want to count a hitting streak (or a not-hitting streak) that covers two seasons. Some dubiously claimed that Jimmy Rollins(notes), who ended the 2005 season with hits in 36 straight games, was still pursuing Joe DiMaggio's 56-game streak when the 2006 season started. Hey, if the Cubs get to start every season 0-0, so do the players.
But 0 for an entire season? That's definitely a thing.
Velez came off the bench in most of his appearances this season, but Dodgers manager Don Mattingly gave him a start a week ago Friday, when he went 0 for 3 to eclipse Finney's mark. As reporter Dylan Hernandez wrote in the Los Angeles Times, Mattingly faced a tough decision in the season's final days: Should he keep letting Velez swing away in pursuit of his first hit since May 2010?
Mattingly used Velez as an eighth-inning pinch hitter, offering the utility player a chance to hit his way out of an undesirable record. But the well-intentioned move backfired, as Velez hit into another ignoble record.
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_i...for_season.jpg

Ignoble? Au contraire! Velez is King of the Oh-Fers! And, hey, he drew two walks and somehow contributed an RBI this season. Take that, Finney (pictured). At least Velez got on, Mr. No On-Base Percentage!
The 0-for-37 streak might be upsetting, embarrassing and even depressing, but at least we'll know Velez for something other than his famous jersey misadventure.
You might remember that, when Velez played for the San Francisco Giants in 2010, he wore a jersey sent by Majestic that read "San Francicso" on the front. Sick is right.
Has someone been trying to tell Velez that he doesn't belong in the majors?
As Bisbee wrote, it would be a shame if he never got another chance to break his hitless streak. Velez is awesome in his own, unique way:
If you're not Giants or Dodgers fan, you might not have heard of him until just now, but he's amazing. He's fast, but he can't run the bases. He certainly can't bunt. You might think Steve Carlton holds the all-time record for pickoffs with 144. You'd be wrong. Velez has about 167 (rough estimate). He can't play second base or the outfield, which makes him like a Jack Cust(notes), but one who is routinely stuck at second base, or in the outfield. When Velez plays baseball, Hunter Pence(notes) stops to say, "My word, that Velez fellow is gangly and awkward."
And his middle name is "Vancomper." So that's the scouting report on Eugenio Velez. Will we ever see his likeness again?

Droford 09-30-2011 12:54 AM
Quote:
"I'd like to see how smart Theo Epstein is with the Tampa Bay payroll. You got Carl Crawford 'cause you paid more than anyone else, and that's what makes you smarter? That's why I like whipping their butt. It's great, knowing those guys with the $205 million payroll are saying, 'How the hell are they beating us?'"

That was Buck Showalter in an interview for the April edition of Men's Journal magazine. Showalter had to back down from his comments as Boston manager Terry Francona got mad. Buck's looking pretty smart today. And Boston has to be wondering, "How the hell did they beat us?" this morning.

Aguakate 09-30-2011 12:59 AM
If Buck Showalter ever managed a GOOD TEAM, with a lot of money, big time free agents and the like, he'd be a multi-World Series winning manager. I love him.

All the teams he manages become winners and go to the World Series after he leaves them. Yankees, D'Backs, Rangers. Hopefully the same will happen in Baltimore. It's clear the man knows his baseball and does something right.

Droford 09-30-2011 01:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3642053)
If Buck Showalter ever managed a GOOD TEAM, he'd be a multi-World Series winning manager. I love him.
He leaves and then they win the World Series. Which is why im intrigued about what happens with that if he takes the GM position and steps down as manager..does that count as him leaving? should I be taking the odds on the Os to win the World Series in 2012?

also, having trouble coming to grips with the reality that the city of Boston hates Robert Andino now..

I guess this means he has to stay around.

Emperor Smeat 09-30-2011 01:13 AM
Showalter got the wrong team with the $205 million comment (Yankees at $205, Red Sox at $161 and 3rd behind Phillies at $172) but he's mostly right.

Showalter's problem is peaking with a team and then not able to do anymore such as putting the stones in place for the Yankees eventual dynasty in the late 1990s with Torre. Same with the Diamondbacks winning the title the year after he leaves. Only team it didn't occur was with the Rangers but that could be more to how bad the A-Rod contract hurt the team money-wise.

Aguakate 09-30-2011 01:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3642063)
Showalter got the wrong team with the $205 million comment (Yankees at $205, Red Sox at $161 and 3rd behind Phillies at $172) but he's mostly right.

Showalter's problem is peaking with a team and then not able to do anymore such as putting the stones in place for the Yankees eventual dynasty in the late 1990s with Torre. Same with the Diamondbacks winning the title the year after he leaves. Only team it didn't occur was with the Rangers but that could be more to how bad the A-Rod contract hurt the team money-wise.
...the Rangers still made it to the World Series (last year). So all the teams he manages make it to the WS.

Skippord 09-30-2011 01:39 AM
super excited to see Matt Moore pitch tomorrow, haven't gotten to see him since the future's game

Aguakate 09-30-2011 01:43 AM
Yeah, having a rookie pitch Game 1 of the ALDS is a gutsy move, but then again, everything has been going right for the Rays as of late, so, who knows?

RP 09-30-2011 01:49 AM
Is this Matt Moores first start of the season?

Skippord 09-30-2011 01:51 AM
2nd I think

RP 09-30-2011 01:51 AM
I know he was the best prospect in baseball, but I dunno about this. I hope he's good.

Aguakate 09-30-2011 01:52 AM
Second.

He pitched 5 scoreless innings against the Yankees, I believe.

Skippord 09-30-2011 02:04 AM
Terry Francona out in Boston, apparently

if I didn't love Jim Tracy with the passion of 1000 burning suns I would like for him to come here

Aguakate 09-30-2011 02:06 AM
Where'd you hear that?

FearedSanctity 09-30-2011 02:06 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/m...red-sox-092911

Skippord 09-30-2011 02:08 AM
also, twitter

Skippord 09-30-2011 02:08 AM
TrippingBusterOlney broke the story for me

Aguakate 09-30-2011 02:11 AM
Well, it's been a long, good run.

You'd think he'd have more of a leash, especially since he's won two Titles, but...

Skippord 09-30-2011 02:24 AM
apparently he wants to leave

Aguakate 09-30-2011 02:26 AM
Those Boston players need Bobby Valentine to go in there and kick their asses.

RP 09-30-2011 02:26 AM
Cubs should get Francona, Palpebon, C.C when he opts out and Prince Feilder.

In the immortal words Bart Scott.

" CANT WAIT! "

Evil Vito 09-30-2011 08:45 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Matt Moore gets the start for the Rays in Game 1 with all of one Major League start under his belt.</font>

MVP 09-30-2011 10:39 AM
It's official - Tito's out, according to Jon Heyman.

Innovator 09-30-2011 10:44 AM
Francona is a solid manager, but it was time to go in Boston. It was like Torre here, just time for a new voice.


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