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There seems to be very little actual basketball knowledge in Narc's stance/opinion
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its like talking to Wadding.
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What is everyone's opinions on Shaquille O'Neal?
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I do not disdain LeBron James at all...i disdain talking to individuals who talk up the guy like he just did a behind the back pass off the backboard at half court to himself to hit a three with every player from the opposite team, both on and off the court, guarding him. I disdain the LeBron James mythology. |
that really isn't the right use of the word disdain
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That's not the way what works? I'm saying to either include it or don't include it. You can't have it both ways because it's convenient. That's what I'm saying here.
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Whoever gets Lebron James can have him. He's a great player, but he's also talked up by the ESPN generation because the NBA is desperate to have another Michael Jordan.
Sick of hearing about it to be honest. He can go wherever and I could care less because he has been beasted by the Celts twice now. Lakers fans have every right to feel the same way too. Titles > endorsements. |
Pretty much exactly how I feel about Peyton Manning too, to cross it over into sports in general and not just the NBA
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Yeah, I suppose he's talked up I just don't get why people have such an issue. I mean Kobe was talked up and Kevin Durant is being talked up now. It just seems like Lebron "pushes peoples buttons" somehow.
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Because it's far more shoved down their throats, probably. It pushes people buttons more because it's far more overblown.
I can't stand half the things the national sports media (especially ESPN) try to perpetuate anyways. They're responsible for leading droves of "sports fans" to think a certain way, and it's ultimately all in the name of marketability. There's a huge base of people whose sports knowledge and opinions are lacking, and identical |
I hate the modern mentality that has sports ADD, and only has interest in slam dunks, touchdowns, home runs and goals. They have no patience or understanding for the rest of what goes into sports, and they have more appreciation for the highest selling jerseys and product endorsements than they do for hard work and winning championships.
That's the end of my shoot. I just really don't care about Lebron James on the level I'm expected to. He's a great player, but enough is enough. That's why I avoid ESPN. I'm all set with spending a summer hearing about Lebron James and Bret Favre in 5 minute rotating shifts. |
I'd care even more if he were on the Kings. :(
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Last year all ESPN hyped and covered was a a Kobe-Lebron NBA Finals like it would have been the biggest thing ever to happen in sports.
They got rid of the split-face promo commercials and pictures from the year before that were awesome just to partner up with Nike and others to hype up their ideal NBA Finals matchup. Those split-face commercials and the "Where anything happens" were some of the best NBA commercials in a long time. |
I hope David Stern never gets his way on that matchup. I'd rather see The Lakers and Celtics 10 more times. Obviously that's because I'm from Boston, but honestly in principle I'd just rather see any major sporting event be about a rivalry between two TEAMS, not two players.
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It's great to see fans of Boston and LA hate over exposed athletes.
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Might post in here more now that SammyG's gone
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When you're playing in Cleveland and not winning anything, and you're getting nonstop attention, it's obviously all about the individual. |
Right since it's not like Boston got media attention when they weren't winng Championshps.
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Yea the Celtics got tons of national media attention outside of Boston before 2008...
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Patriots were a huge national franchise in the Drew Bledsoe era....
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EVERYONE loved the Red Sox when Brian Daubach was batting cleanup....
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Wasn't there something invloving a curse that was mentioned every fucking day?
Or did I dream that? |
What about some guy name Nomar? Wasn't he the Jesus christ of the red sox that got insane media hype?
Or did I dream that to? |
The Red Sox baseball curse is an overexposed NBA athlete?
Oh wait, it's something involving an entire franchise in another sport. It has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Even still, it wasn't talked about on a national level unless something major happened involving it, or you were watching a show about baseball history. The Red Sox weren't overblown the way they are until 2004 |
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Next I'm gonna hear about how unfair it is that Brady is a bigger star than Donovan McNabb
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The curse was overexposed was it not?
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The curse is something that had a sports history dating back 86 years before it got snapped. It was tremendously overexposed after 1986, and then again in 2004. Both of those things involved championship games though. That's a national story.
Yes, it was a major sports story but did you really hear that much about it before 2004? Only if you were watching a countdown of heartbreaking sports moments. It was a part of baseball culture, not front page news week in week out. |
I don't recall hearing about where the curse might be signing in the offseason, or whether or not Delonte West was banging it's mom
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I have no problem admiting Tom Brady is a bigger star than #5. Cmon |
I guess the reason that I don't understand everybody getting so furious at this LeBron thing is that it's not like it's some crazy outlandish claim to say that he's the best in the league. A more suiting term would definitely be "arguably one of the best" but it isn't like they're trying to peg some B player as the face of the company or anything.
I will agree with the fact that they shouldn't be trying to really peg anybody as the face of the NBA, but it IS a business. |
I'm just use to a parade of various complaints about Boston sports, that may take different forms but usually are rooted in just flat out resentment of the past decade of winning.
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To be fair, I hate the ESPNs and David Sterns of the world more than Lebron.
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Lebron will stay in Cleveland.
Wade will stay in Miami. Johnson to the Knicks. Bosh to the Lakers. |
Crimson with the inside scoop
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http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_as.../dsc01540z.jpg
Clipper "Nation" wants Lebron James. Ben Maller was involved in this somewhere.. Also, the Salvation is in Christ only sign..lol |
John Wall to the Wizards
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I resent Boston fans, Laker fans, New York fans(primarily Yankee fans), and Cowboys fans is because they feel like a World Championship is there birthright. Once you feel entitled to something that's where all the problems start. |
I don't feel that way at all. Years of losing makes it the opposite, and it seems to be even more that way for people like my father who've been around longer.
There are people like that, but they're probably the inevitable bandwagon fans that come with the titles, and they're always louder and obnoxious anyways. Half of them are just there to get drunk and post pics on facebook anyways. |
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Is it Lebron's fault that he is so good that every team in the NBA wants him? Why does all this backlash come on Lebron? Same with Brett Favre? It's the media's fault and who ever else controls those things for doing it, but yet they feel the brunt of it. |
The way they thrive on it is awful. Particularly Favre.
But I never said Lebron wasn't a great player or that I thought he was a bad person. I said I'm sick and tired of hearing about him, considering what he's done and more importantly what he hasn't done. |
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Well the teams were often winning in the sense that they were above .500, but the Patriots hadn't ever won a title, the Red Sox hadn't won in 86 years, and the Celts and Bruins hadn't won since 72 and 86 respectively.
That isn't anything above most cities. It was pretty standard. |
Teams occasionally made the playoffs too, but never went anywhere. It wasn't all "losing" teams but they were years of losing in the sense that ultimately nothing was won and the teams were just good enough to get some scattered hopes up, but never win.
Even a city like Cleveland had The Indians going to the world series and deep into the post season often. I wouldn't call them winners in the 90s. Detroit has always had the Pistons and Red Wings, but look at the Tigers and Lions. What I meant to say was, Boston never won big or had anything over most other cities (besides history) in my lifetime, until 2002 onwards. This decade it's this big powerhouse that everyone else in the country hates for some reason or another. Eventually it will change and we'll see a dry spell again. |
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Sure, some fans (see the Bandwagoners discussed earlier) can be annoying, but there are more Laker/Boston fans who see the game for what it is than you think. Just because i feel the Lakers will win the championship doesnt mean im cocky, it means they had the best record, they are my team, and i will have faith in them until the final buzzer sounds, regardless of the outcome. The difference, NBA wise, is that The Lakers have played in almost half the NBA championships in NBA history, so clearly youre gonna hear alot of a team so consistent with making it to the big game. And anyone with sports history knows that the Celts have the most titles with 17, and the Lakers with 15. So if you base your hatred off championship success, i can see why you would hate the franchises listed, because they are consistintly (with Cowboys being the exception) competing heavily for a title. As for the fans, the true fans...any real fan of any sports franchise will always have faith in their team. I have friends who are die hard Raider fans, and while i cant stand the 'Raider Nation', i applaud them for being so proud, no matter where there team is in the standings. |
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I hope the wizards get john wall. My 2nd team (Celtics) are gonna pummel the lakers if they get to the ship....and my 3rd team (Suns) aint going out like that......FUCK DA LAKERS
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Would love to see the home/away shooting stats of the Suns this series.
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Kobe fucking Bryant
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Emphasis on the fucking.
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Dunno what to say. Everyone on the Lakers finally started making the shots they'd missed against the zone. That's it. I'm proud of the Suns. I didn't think at the start of this season that they would be here at this point. They came on strong down the stretch, and the combination of the Lakers and the refs brought them down. But they scrapped all the way and the took the Lakers to the final minute of Game 6.
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Yeah Kobe is in that zone which only a few people have ever gotten to.
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P.S. Go Celtics.
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Also I don't know if it would have mattered, but Jared Dudley should have been on the court there in the final minutes.
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Random NBA Finals stats :
Lakers have won almost 1/2 of all the possible Western Conference titles and after this NBA Finals, Celtics and Lakers will own exactly 1/2 of all the NBA titles possible. Celtics own about 1/3 of all the possible Eastern Conference titles. Since 1999, the Mavs are the only non-Spurs/Lakers to come from the West while the East supplied 9 different teams in 12 years. |
Suns put up a hell of a fight. Gotta give them credit.
With that said, though.... http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/4...5a26d9.jpg?v=0 |
4 more to go!!
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Alvin Gentry in post game interview and post game press conference: "Kobe is the best player in basketball right now. I don't think it's even close."
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Pretty valiant effort by the Suns at the end but Kobe being Kobe
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Hey everyone watch the Sports Reporters, otherwise known as the Kobe Bryant fellatio hour
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I like the celtics in this series. For the first time in the playoffs the lakers will be playing a team that actually plays defense. Not only that, but the best defensive team in the nba. The key to stopping the lakers has always been to contain or shut down their big men. Up until now the lakers big men have had a field day. OKC had o big men, the jazz have no legit 7 footers, and boozer has always been a sieve defensively. Amare has the same defensive woes as boozer, and the suns implemented a zone to junk the games up. Perkins and Garnett are totally different beasts defensively. Perkins allowed the celtics to stay home on their defensive assignments by effectively single covering dwight howard. I'm expecting both bynum and gasols efficiency to go way down with perkins muscling in the paint with bynum, and gasol having to contend with the length of garnett. Rondo will also be an interesting situation. Fisher has no shot of containing rondo.
You might see the lakers match kobe up against him because they have nobody that can stay in front of him, and at least kobe has a length advantage. Dealing with rondo is a full time job though because he is the celtics catalyst and Kobe will need energy for the offensive end. It should be noted that Perkins only needs 1 more technical that will give him a one game suspension. That could really tip the momentum for the lakers. If I were LA I would do everything I could to get under his skin because they have no replacement for his low post defensive presence. |
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Rondo will have his, but not as easily as he has had it in the east. Sasha cant be relied on for offense, but you damn sure can rely on him to chase your guard around relentlessly. Brown has the athleticism to keep up with Rondo as well, the question being if he will bother to since he tends to be lazy on defense. Pierce will have issues with Artest. All in all, its not gonna be as easy as you just made it sound, like the Lakers have no answers for the Celts and the Celts have all the answers for the Lakers. |
Rondo is going to eat Derrick Fisher and anyone else on the Lakers alive.
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No they aren't.
He's the 2nd best player in the series. |
Really? Westbrook has a better shot than Rondo, is just as fast (if not faster) and more athletic. Youre delusional to say Westbrook isnt.
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Rondo is better then Westbrook at this point. I'm a big Russel Westbrook, but child please.
You're hatred of The Celtics is blinding you. |
im basing this off what i saw in these playoffs. Its not a matter of what jersey Rondo wears. Im not saying Rondo will not do well (matter of fact, i stated he will get his stats), im saying you guys are talking like the Lakers havent been tested this post season at the 1, when they have faced off against the leagues best. And yet here we are, in the finals.
On the other side of that coin, Rondo hasnt faced any real decent defenders during their East title run. |
unless you consider Carlos Arroyo, Mike Bibby, and Jameer Nelson grade A defenders.
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So now we take the best quick PG who is also the best at getting to the basket it's logical to think he is going to have his way with the Lakers. Who are these decent defenders that the Lakers have at the PG position? It's most certianly Derrick Fisher. because he won't be able to cover Rondo. Jordan Farmer stands no chance either. I guess Shannon Brown is the best option defensively, and he isn't that much better of an option. So if Shannon Brown is your best option... That's trouble. If Rondo isn't heathly though than that's the going to be a problem for the Celtics. |
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Yes he is.
Fisher is gonna guard Allen, Artest is gonna guard Pierce and Kobe is gonna guard Rondo. That's the plan, anyway. |
You want Kobe covering Rondo the whole game? Crunch time yeah sure, but if does the whole game throughout the whole series he's going to be tired out, and heavy legs.
Then on the flip side do you even trust Fisher to chase Ray Allen around on all those screens? Lakers don't have as big matchup advantage here as they have had throughout the whole playoffs. Lamar Odom again is the key. |
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Didn't Paul Pierce pretty much keep Kobe on check 2 years ago? Not stop him all together but neutrelized him throughout.
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Top 10 Moments of Celtics-Lakers NBA Finals
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Let's go Lakers, you can finally make up for your distasterous finals two years ago.
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pretty pumped for this series. should be a good one.
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I'm sure there's nothing biased there
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I'm sure you didn't watch the whole video
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cannot stand KG
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I did not watch any of it
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