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None, which is why I could see it being a work.
MJF wants to "live the gimmick" as I said before, so I could very well see him going to Tony with this idea and since he doesn't say no to anything, he agrees. Then MJF can go with the "unhappy with being in AEW gimmick, thinking his star is too big for them" after losing to Wardlow. Doing a Russo-esque "trying to blur the lines between reality and kayfabe" story seems like it would be right up MJF's alley. |
depends on who wants to leave alot of the aew wrestlers wwe don't want, mjf is stuck for a year and a half he could sit that out, like wwe would make him do.
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MJF could just as easily put the focus on himself as the centerpoint of the company, instead of emphasizing how he’s got one foot out the door because it sucks.
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Looks like we might get Roman Reigns vs. The Rock, Cody vs. MJF and AJ vs. Omega over the course of Mania weekend next year. |
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Of course, I'm not saying the whole thing just isn't real either. It could all very well be legit.... in which case MJF is even dumber because not fulfilling your professional commitments is a great way to show your professionalism to potential new employers. |
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I’d imagine that a WWE would be aware that he’s tried to get out of his contract and have proper conversations with Tony Khan plenty of times, and that there is correspondence proving this — and TK repeatedly blowing off MJF. |
Rumor has it that there are NJPW guys there tonight to promote forbidden door. If MJF no shows, they should let Wardlow and Ishii kill each other for no reason.
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dunno wtf is wrong with your image rez.
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Sometimes it can be tough after an AEW PPV to predict who is in line for the next big spot opposite the champ. We've done a lot of World Championship rematches to my memory, I'd like to see Hangman get into a different story rather than do a rematch with Punk. Not sure what he's going to do but I'd like to see him start drinking again and that can cause whatever feud he's going to have next.
BCC ... Well it's pretty easy to see that BCC and Kingston's crew are going to split from the short DON alliance. You'd have Danielson/Mox/Yuta going against Kingston/Ortiz/Santana. That could provide 6 weeks or more of programming. Wardlow probably isn't completely free of MJF, I can see a case for the story continuing, but also we could completely move on after last night as well. Not sure that there is a way to end a long running program more definitively than they did last night. I can see Wardlow quickly regaining the TNT Championship from Sky and finding a new big challenger on his journey defending the belt. Punk ... You can easily write an arc for Punk where he defends against each former AEW Champion until finally the showdown with Omega comes. I think the most natural program though is with MJF. But I think that's the program where Punk loses the belt so I'm expecting a bit of a run for Punk before that happens. |
Idea for Hangman... beaten down and in despair after his Championship loss we see Hangman back on the drink, but encouraged to keep going by his former bretheren The Undisputed Elite. With Omega still out, there will be a spot needed for a big 10-man tag team at Forbidden Door in an Undisputed Elite match vs Bullet Club. Hangman will end up taking Kenny's spot and uniting with Undisputed Elite but unfortunately he will clash with Cole and there will be a rift that causes The Undisputed Elite to lose to The Bullet Club and more than that a BLOOD FEUD between Cole and Hangman. They can work towards a big singles match at All Out.
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If this leads to Hangman back on the sauce, it’s a win/win.
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what does the masterminds think, indeed
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Thanks for asking.
Any other resident masterminds wanna take this softball or should I? |
Punk can do more in the ring now than goldberg could in his prime.
So not the best comparison. Especially if you've seen the last few Goldberg matches. |
I’m more lenient than most when it comes to how much people can do in the ring so that would be a little lower on my list of reasons why it’s a bad comparison. But it is up there.
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The last few Goldberg matches were absolutely horrendous... And Punk is still a lot younger than Goldberg as well
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Goldberg is 55 and Punk is 43
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You use that :rofl: smiley face waaaaay too much for your dogs at CM Punk. They are not always "ROFL", you are taking away from its value!
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How long do you think Punk's title reign will last?
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That being said, Punk doesn’t HAVE to be a transitional champion. He’s young enough and capable enough of working a full-time schedule where he can just BE the guy for a while. So if, God forbid, Wardlow doesn’t work out for whatever reason, they can just keep the title on Punk and not have to freak out and rush it onto a full-time guy who may not even be deemed worthy of a roster spot a year later and ends up in CYN. :shifty:
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If it’s coming up to the end of the first set of deals and it’s more Janela’s leaving then that can’t be a bad thing in terms of “trimming some of the fat”. If it’s some bigger names, then again it’s going to create some space on the roster. The roster is far, far too big to be serviceable and thinning it out will help refocus. Obviously if it’s bigger names such as “The Pillars” or more of the EVPs it’s bad optics/more damanging for the brand overall. |
Yeah, for all the shit Tony gets for overcrowding the roster, he’s brought in a lot of good pieces while phasing out friends of Cody and the EVPs who never should have been there in the first place.
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Joey Janela not getting renewed is not opening up a spot for somebody else. The Forbidden Door PPV is likely to have half NJPW people, so even if they throw out the same number of matches and people, 25 AEW wrestlers are getting left off the card. They need to cut a lot more than just trimming the fat off, they need to cut half of the roster before there will be any meaningful room to grow. |
I saw the story about people seeing how cody is being treated and wanting to leave AEW.
That is a massive lapse of judgement on their part. Cody is not like anyone else in AEW. He began his career as a WWE guy. In many ways, he never stopped being a WWE guy. Thats what made him stand out in ROH, NJPW, and AEW. You're talking about a guy who was born and bred in the WWE training program, and never lost or stopped using the fundementals learned there. Never picked up any bad indy habits, and only improved his work and overall image by leaps and bounds. One has to imagine that is a major factor in not only his return but also in how much hes been pushed. They trust him with this spot because he's been here before. And we know enough about Vince to assume he respects Cody for betting on himself and accomplishing what he did outside of WWE. What have any of these other guys done that would be equally impressive to vince? Cody is in a completely different universe from anyone else looking to get out, and if they think the machine will get behind them half as much as it has Cody, they're out of their minds. Better to stick with the incompetent, yet more pliable billionaire you already have, rather than trade him for another who may just give you some horrible 90's gimmick and call it a day. |
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That said, MJF would get a great spot as an occasional wrestler, but his spot would be somewhere between a Bobby Heenan manager type and a guy with a talk show spot to set up other matches by stirring the pot. I also think there is a solid first AEW original to make the jump, whoever that ends up being, and I think MJF is smart enough to know that. I also have to think cokehead Tony has to be afraid of another person leaving looking like a much bigger star with WWE's presentation. Vince has done this before, he lets the competition "steal" a bunch of talent, bloat their roster with ex WWE guys, and then cherry pick a few disgruntled originals and leave the mark company with egg on their face. |
Goldberg drew more in one year than Punk has done over an entire career. The apologetics will fly, but it’s the same principle. Put the belt on an older and more established guy because it’s the best thing you’ve got running. If you want to lob criticism at that, be fair.
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Are Adam Cole and Baker going to wear those Owen Hart titles? Will there be anyone on the roster without a title? Samoa Joe didn’t have his ROH title with him at the ppv, hope that’s all being phased out and off the show.
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Lmaooooo at anybody reasonably believing any of the young guys in AEW are going to be stars anywhere else including WWE. The WWE themselves can’t make any stars and the one they had flopped for years until they finally turned him heel, and even then their incompetent owner couldn’t build a new star for Roman to put over, thus creating a second star and not being overly reliant on old farts 20 years past their peaks.
I love a lot of the talent in AEW, but the majority would be nobodies in WWE. Wardlow is probably the only guy I think Vince would go all in on because he’s big, good looking and athletic. Hobbs could have a shot for similar reasons, maybe. Nobody else on the ppv last night has any chance at being more than a midcard nobody in WWE. As already mentioned, Cody is a far different and exceptional circumstance. |
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