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Rammsteinmad 12-03-2015 02:04 PM

Yeah... but they're human in appearance.

Rammsteinmad 12-03-2015 02:06 PM

Hence why I had the word "human" in quotation marks in the post you were replying to. I wanna see a big, badass motherfucking monster, not another human actor.

alvarado52 12-03-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4738803)
I will say that the CGI on Doomsday looks a bit naff, but I'm just happy to have him in a movie and not have to endure another showdown with a "human" opponent.

Well with any luck they'll clean it up between now and then. Kinda feel like they should add more bone to him.

Fignuts 12-03-2015 02:41 PM

It's been suggested that the whole desert scene with the parademons, superman army, and superman unmasking batman is all just a dream sequence that bruce is having.

Just speculation, but it would make sense.

Emperor Smeat 12-03-2015 03:47 PM

Trailer looked pretty cool.


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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4738675)
The neck on that cowl is massive I wonder why, Aflecks a big dude but his neck is not that fucking thick.

Maybe Batman keeps a snack in there for when he's hungry on the job.

Sixx 12-03-2015 04:04 PM

HAd no idea what Parademons were so I googled. This is their wikipedai picture:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../Parademon.JPG

KIRA 12-03-2015 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4738843)
It's been suggested that the whole desert scene with the parademons, superman army, and superman unmasking batman is all just a dream sequence that bruce is having.

Just speculation, but it would make sense.

It had a weird distortion effect in it so when I saw the scene that was my first thought

Sixx 12-03-2015 06:24 PM

Doomsday kinda looks like a troll from LOTR.

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20070411221752

Kalyx triaD 12-03-2015 08:54 PM

He looks like Zod. Obviously, I know, but I think that's why he's not 100% comic Doomsday.

Sixx 12-03-2015 08:58 PM

How in the world does he look like Zod?

Fignuts 12-03-2015 11:06 PM

I honestly don't like this. Doomsday is one of the most important villains in superman lore, and could have been used for a death of superman movie down the line, but instead he's relegated to being a Luthor minion that will get his ass kicked in one fight at the end of the movie and never be seen again.

Just feels like a waste.

McLegend 12-03-2015 11:11 PM

I don't agree with showing Doomsday in the trailer. Let's have some surprises.

Fignuts 12-03-2015 11:12 PM

Are Flash, Cyborg, and Aquaman supposed to be in this?

Going to be a huge clusterfuck if they're not a post credit scene or something.

Rammsteinmad 12-03-2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4739020)
I honestly don't like this. Doomsday is one of the most important villains in superman lore, and could have been used for a death of superman movie down the line, but instead he's relegated to being a Luthor minion that will get his ass kicked in one fight at the end of the movie and never be seen again.

Just feels like a waste.

It's taken them this long to get a bloody team-up movie done. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any kind of "Death of Superman" storyline-based movie.

weather vane 12-03-2015 11:55 PM

Trailers ruin everything now.

Fignuts 12-04-2015 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4739075)
It's taken them this long to get a bloody team-up movie done. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any kind of "Death of Superman" storyline-based movie.

Pretty sure they already asaid they have a plan for a whole bunch of movies unless I'm remembering things wrong.

Fignuts 12-04-2015 12:02 AM

Regardless, making Doomsday luthor's muscle is equivalent to making Bane Poison Ivy's lackey.

Emperor Smeat 12-04-2015 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4739075)
It's taken them this long to get a bloody team-up movie done. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any kind of "Death of Superman" storyline-based movie.

Doubt DC would even risk doing that type of storyline again. Either they'd have to end the Superman line of films or deal with the backlash again if he's just brought back to life.

Damian Rey 12-04-2015 01:01 AM

By the end of TDKRises I think many of the general audience had accepted Bruce Wayne had died, seeing as being a symbol and not a man was a theme throughout the franchise. If this second and and Superman film to follow builds up that Supes stands for hope, and that he represents it as a symbol, I'm sure the audience would buy into him dying, only to be brought back.

I mean, shit, it worked for fucking Spock.

Lock Jaw 12-04-2015 01:37 AM

One thing I "laughed" at was the line where Bruce Wayne said something about how he must not like Superman because he has bad experiences with people dressed like a clown.

Would have been a "good line" if Superman actually wore bright colours in this thing. Heck, I think the grey/black in Batman's costume is "brighter"/"more vibrant" than Superman's colours.

Corporate CockSnogger 12-04-2015 02:17 AM

Interesting to see such a stark contrast in reception between this forum and the only other forum I frequent. Not sure what the general consensus is by "critics" or anything because I've not looked into it.

Mostly praised on here and up to now 100% panned on the other forum. I'm mostly leaning towards the latter. Poor trailer, completely tone deaf, showed pretty much the entire plot, showed off the poor acting of one of it's leads. First trailer was much more interesting, and piqued my interest a bit. Now I know the full plot, it's probably just a download once it's out on blu ray for me now.

Corporate CockSnogger 12-04-2015 02:20 AM

Also I don't think they hit home the point that Lex Luther's a bit of a wild card enough. Maybe they could have him get "damaged" tattooed on his face or something. Just throwing ideas out there.

McLegend 12-04-2015 08:16 AM

I just watched the trailer, and I liked it. Still look forward to seeing it.

The trailer does give away a lot though.

XL 12-04-2015 05:20 PM

Sort of torn.

I watched Ant-Man last night and "marked out" when Falcon showed up, which wouldn't have happened if he'd appeared in the trailer, and that's just Falcon in Ant-Man.

Doomsday (if that's who it is) appearing in the trailer hasn't made me want to see the movie more, but it has robbed me of a "mark out" moment when I do see it.

Damian Rey 12-04-2015 06:26 PM

Valid point m not sure why they were so quick to reveal him. Of course unless Luthor went mech suit on Supes you had to expect some kind of big bad, especially when they revealed Lex getting his hands on Zod's body in the comic con trailer.

However, giving the audience a sense that Luthor is the mega mind behind Batman and Superman fighting is the central conflict was a better idea.

We shall see what other surprises are in store.

Fignuts 12-04-2015 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4739128)
By the end of TDKRises I think many of the general audience had accepted Bruce Wayne had died, seeing as being a symbol and not a man was a theme throughout the franchise. If this second and and Superman film to follow builds up that Supes stands for hope, and that he represents it as a symbol, I'm sure the audience would buy into him dying, only to be brought back.

I mean, shit, it worked for fucking Spock.

This, pretty much. I've never been a big superman fan, but I've always loved the Death of Superman story, ever since I was a kid, because it personofies the symbol of hope and the passion of a superhero to never give up, better than any other story I can think of.

That story IS superman.

Damian Rey 12-04-2015 07:18 PM

Never read it, but that idea that Superman dies because he continues to fight and fight and fight until his body cannot withstand it any longer is about as valiant a death as a demi god can receive.

Man of Steel already somewhat established what his insignia stands for. Lois has pointed out that it still means something to people in a trailer for this movie. If Bats jumps on board acknowledging he symbolizes fear but Clark truly represents hope and the good in people, the way Jor-El explained to him, by movie three or four it's plausible to think him dying and the JL trying to find a way to bring him back in another movie could work.

I'd be all for it this universe turns out as good as it has the potential to be.

Sixx 12-04-2015 07:33 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/prRySgsgtnM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Damian Rey 12-04-2015 07:51 PM

Lmao Jesus that skit never gets old.

Sixx 12-04-2015 07:55 PM

I watch it from time to time and I always laugh. When I'm drunk I can watch it a few times in a row and burst out laughing constantly.

KIRA 12-07-2015 07:43 PM

Zod is Doomsday's model Shannon did the Mo-cap and it looks like Zod

Sixx 12-07-2015 08:43 PM

He might have done the motion capture but how does this look like Zod?

Jesus.

Damian Rey 12-07-2015 09:30 PM

Yeah I'm not seeing it. Like, at all.

Lock Jaw 12-07-2015 09:49 PM

The nose looks like his nose!

McLegend 12-07-2015 09:49 PM

Kind of looks like The Abomination.

XL 12-10-2015 04:08 PM

I thought there was a resemblance.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-13-2016 11:38 PM

https://youtu.be/PRjWvVQz-NI

New and supposedly final trailer for BvS

Rammsteinmad 02-14-2016 09:32 AM

Pretty rubbish trailer to be honest.

I enjoyed Man of Steel, and am interested to see Doomsday, but this whole DC attempt at a movie universe is just pitiful.

Kalyx triaD 02-14-2016 12:48 PM

I seem to recall telling you guys years ago this was the most likely way DC was gonna do this.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-14-2016 12:57 PM

Not sure what that has to do with anything at this point.

As for the trailer, I'm on the other side of Ram. I didn't enjoy Man of Steel at all and thought it was a pile of mediocre mumbo jumbo. The dialogue they have shown here seems much better. The lines have more heft.

I'm more concerned that it's going to be a cluster fuck but we shall see. I have more faith in what I've seen to this point than I ever thought I would. I'm hoping it's just a solid movie at this point.


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