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Mr. Nerfect 07-24-2022 04:03 PM

That would be a way to go. I also prefer Garcia to Guevara.

xrodmuc316 07-24-2022 05:38 PM

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Sepholio 07-24-2022 05:50 PM

Gresham is a fine talent but I don't see him as world title level. But that's just because I'll never buy a guy who is 5'4" being a viable world champ when surrounded by guys a foot taller and 100 lbs heavier. The size difference is just too much for me.

Secondary titles would be fine for him though imo.

Mr. Nerfect 07-24-2022 06:18 PM

Agree with the World Title thing, at least at this point, but I think there are guys taller I would prefer to fight over him. Dude is in shape and can probably tangle you up. Still deserves to be treated with respect as a talent and human being — and you know what? As the World Champion of that promotion, whether you think he’s a natural fit or not. That’s the hand they were dealt/kept playing after Supercard of Honor. Let him know what the plans for him are so he can have faith in management and doing a good job putting someone over.

Mr. Nerfect 07-24-2022 06:19 PM

Even the guys whinging about him not liking his lumps admit he is a talented guy. The knocks on him are his size and having not having a dynamic personality. Absolutely no one is saying he sucks in the ring.

Sepholio 07-24-2022 06:20 PM

lol apparently AEW and Kenny Omega have filed a Cease and Desist against Will Ospreay over his new shirt on pro wrestling tees and had it taken off the market. Womp womp.

Mr. Nerfect 07-24-2022 06:23 PM

It’s a work.

Vastardikai 07-24-2022 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5566819)
lol apparently AEW and Kenny Omega have filed a Cease and Desist against Will Ospreay over his new shirt on pro wrestling tees and had it taken off the market. Womp womp.

If there's any backlash, Omega will blame the Lawyer for being "overzealous."

Mr. Nerfect 07-24-2022 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 5566833)
If there's any backlash, Omega will blame the Lawyer for being "overzealous."

He’s already being passive aggressive about it. “This triggered serious legal concerns within #Aew. Sincerely apologies to fans of Will. We’ve made it so all order (up to today) will be honored.”

For what it’s worth, as slimy and disingenuous and overrated as I think Omega is, Ospreay’s shirt is way out of line. For those wondering, it’s got an illustrated picture of him doing a move on the front with “Billy the Wanker” in ugly font. On the back it has “Better than ‘The Best’ Bout Machine.” Way too on the nose.

I’m not about to go looking into trademarks, but you could have gone for something way more general like “Better than ‘The Best’” or “Better than Any Bout Machine” which is probably still cutting it too fine.

I actually like “Billy the Wanker” as a nickname though.

Evil Vito 07-25-2022 08:51 AM

In wake of the Gresham story about miscommunication within AEW...Joey Janela went on record that his words of "being ghosted" by Tony Khan were taken out of context, and that he never had an issue with talking to Khan, his issue was moreso that talent relations isn't on the ball. Tony Deppen also mentioned that he found it easy to get in contact with Tony Khan directly at a taping and had a full blown conversation with him despite being an extra.

I see two issues that tie in to each other:

1) Khan might have a largely good rapport with the talent he talks to but the guy runs and books two promotions, is the co-owner and working in the front office of two professional sports franchise, and runs a sports analytics firm. The guy could have his phone open 24 hours a day and there's simply no way he'd be able to drop everything to talk with everyone who might need him. This is where you need intermediaries who have some oversight, specifically Talent Relations

2) They DO have a Talent Relations department but as far as I know it's Christopher Daniels, Michael Nakazawa, and Shawn Dean...all of whom are at least semi-active on the independents themselves. They really need a dedicated person or two in that kind of a job.

Evil Vito 07-25-2022 08:56 AM

The "jobs for the boys" approach of giving front office jobs to wrestlers made sense when AEW first started and there were only so many people they could sign. Plus at that point nearly everyone on the roster had connections to Cody, Jericho, Omega, the Bucks, Daniels, etc and so it was easier to network and get face time in front of Khan.

But they've signed dozens and dozens of people in the last couple of years, including talent they probably never thought would be available. The structure they were using might've worked for original AEW and Daily's Place pandemic AEW, but not the last year of AEW where they've grown the roster rapidly. Not having a full-time Talent Relations staff etc isn't really conducive to a streamlined, functional corporate structure.

Jordan 07-25-2022 09:59 AM

Jonny Ace and Bruce Prichard about to become All Elite.

Mr. Nerfect 07-25-2022 01:36 PM

Tony Khan can find time to tweet about Vince McMahon and hang out with Tony Deppen, but he can’t settle out issues with his ROH World Champion prior to the day of the PPV? That doesn’t make Khan look as chill as some think it does.

He’s done this to Chavo, to Swole, to Stunt. If the conversation is awkward, he will avoid it. He’s available for things he wants to be available for.

slik 07-25-2022 01:40 PM

Tully Blanchard gone from AEW/ROH

Mr. Nerfect 07-25-2022 01:43 PM

That doesn’t surprise me. It seemed about time. That being said, they were still working towards things with him with this Brian Cage stuff. That was when — April?

slik 07-25-2022 01:49 PM

He had a new faction w/ Cage, Tully Blanchard Enterprises - They wrestled on the pre-show for Death Before Dishonor, though Tully wasn't at ringside

Mr. Nerfect 07-25-2022 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 5566958)
He had a new faction w/ Cage, Tully Blanchard Enterprises - They wrestled on the pre-show for Death Before Dishonor, though Tully wasn't at ringside

Yeah, that’s what I mean. Seems odd to go about that if his contract is expiring and you don’t plan to be re-sign him.

xrodmuc316 07-25-2022 03:57 PM

CM Punk SOOOOOO injured
"Foot Shattered"
Has to relearn walking
Goes to Comic Con
Walks around with a Walking Boot
"Owwwwie it hurts"
Title Unification match???
https://i.imgflip.com/6nvplj.gif

Stubbed toe on guardrail like an 0-2 MMA Failure :rofl:

#1-norm-fan 07-25-2022 04:33 PM

Dang. Was any of this confirmed by the Sean Ross Sapp? COULD BE DAMNING!

Mr. Nerfect 07-25-2022 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5566994)
CM Punk SOOOOOO injured
"Foot Shattered"
Has to relearn walking
Goes to Comic Con
Walks around with a Walking Boot
"Owwwwie it hurts"
Title Unification match???
https://i.imgflip.com/6nvplj.gif

Stubbed toe on guardrail like an 0-2 MMA Failure :rofl:

I honestly don’t want CM Punk to return at this point. He got very stale very fast. The same thing happened when he left WWE. You realize how little you miss their actual work.

Vastardikai 07-25-2022 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5567005)
Dang. Was any of this confirmed by the Sean Ross Sapp? COULD BE DAMNING!

He was too busy rubbing your inner thigh, as you do.

#1-norm-fan 07-25-2022 08:22 PM

Well, he could report it after.

Vastardikai 07-26-2022 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5566834)
He’s already being passive aggressive about it. “This triggered serious legal concerns within #Aew. Sincerely apologies to fans of Will. We’ve made it so all order (up to today) will be honored.”

For what it’s worth, as slimy and disingenuous and overrated as I think Omega is, Ospreay’s shirt is way out of line. For those wondering, it’s got an illustrated picture of him doing a move on the front with “Billy the Wanker” in ugly font. On the back it has “Better than ‘The Best’ Bout Machine.” Way too on the nose.

I’m not about to go looking into trademarks, but you could have gone for something way more general like “Better than ‘The Best’” or “Better than Any Bout Machine” which is probably still cutting it too fine.

I actually like “Billy the Wanker” as a nickname though.

So... at what point does this not become dumb?

Mr. Nerfect 07-26-2022 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 5567124)
So... at what point does this not become dumb?

Oh, it’s dumb from the start right on through.

Mr. Nerfect 07-26-2022 09:17 PM

Triple H is already taking the fight back to AEW, apparently. Brandon Thurston is saying that the next NXT “premium live event” on Peacock is going to be going against All Out on September 4.

You’d think he’d have to have something biggish planned to go against whatever AEW has planned.

Mr. Nerfect 07-26-2022 09:20 PM

Rumored to be at the NOW Arena (formerly the Sears Center) in Chicago.

xrodmuc316 07-26-2022 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5567293)
Triple H is already taking the fight back to AEW, apparently. Brandon Thurston is saying that the next NXT “premium live event” on Peacock is going to be going against All Out on September 4.

You’d think he’d have to have something biggish planned to go against whatever AEW has planned.

Cant WAIT for the Dubbalos to brag about All Out selling more tickets and doing more buys, while completely ignoring having a payroll 25 times larger than NXT, and also the $17 million WWE will make from Peacock that month :eek:

Mr. Nerfect 07-26-2022 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5567296)
Cant WAIT for the Dubbalos to brag about All Out selling more tickets and doing more buys, while completely ignoring having a payroll 25 times larger than NXT, and also the $17 million WWE will make from Peacock that month :eek:

They don’t even need successful metrics to call it a win.

xrodmuc316 07-26-2022 11:19 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 07-27-2022 01:09 AM

Lol, AEW is a joke to even most wrestling fans, let alone the general public. Its “popularity” in places like the UK and Canada is exaggerated for good PR.

Frank Drebin 07-27-2022 01:42 PM

Yes. It is known.

xrodmuc316 07-27-2022 03:16 PM

OMG Tiny is FREAKING OUT again right now, fucking spaz...

Quote:

“Some of the narratives I’ve seen every day for the last week are really amusing me,” Khan said on the “Busted Open Radio” show. “I’ve got people signed here for five years. And people think, just because the guy, the CEO, the chairman, the head of creative, those positions change in the competition, people I have five-year contracts with are just magically gonna switch teams?”
https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...p-back-to-wwe/

Sepholio 07-27-2022 03:17 PM

That sounds like a man ready to sit people in catering for the next half a decade.

xrodmuc316 07-27-2022 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5567489)
That sounds like a man ready to sit people in catering for the next half a decade.

Quote:

THEY ARE MY TOYS, MINE!!! I CAN KEEP THEM AS LONG AS I WANT I HATE TRIPLE H!!!!!!

Mr. Nerfect 07-27-2022 05:16 PM

Lol, what a a weird way to respond to those rumors. “They can’t go anywhere because I own them!” Why wouldn’t talent want to be in your promotion in the first place?

Blonde Moment 07-27-2022 05:38 PM

Or he could just be stating a fact.
As to why they might want to be there?
Freedom to be themselves and not stuck in gimmicks they didn't want?

Jordan 07-27-2022 05:39 PM

God Tony sounds like such a fucking loser when he does interviews. He's turning me! Him and his love for Sammy Guevara!

Blonde Moment 07-27-2022 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5567539)
God Tony sounds like such a fucking loser when he does interviews. He's turning me! Him and his love for Sammy Guevara!

He has no charisma whatsoever and that is something money can never buy

Mr. Nerfect 07-27-2022 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blonde Moment (Post 5567538)
Or he could just be stating a fact.
As to why they might want to be there?
Freedom to be themselves and not stuck in gimmicks they didn't want?

He’s saying they can’t switch teams because they’re under contract. Not that they don’t want to switch teams.

Their freedom has led to gimmicks viewers don’t want to see. Some talent are fucking stupid and shouldn’t be allowed to do what they want.

#1-norm-fan 07-27-2022 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blonde Moment (Post 5567538)
Or he could just be stating a fact.

Correct. And the fact he’s stating is “Certain people on the internet are fucking stupid. That’s not how it works. Contracts are a thing.” Except he’s saying it much nicer than that.


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