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I wasn't being sarcastic, I find Tim Thomas to be absolutely loveable, in part because he's an angry fella Like he's often just super pissed at himself when a goal goes in and he shows it, it's kinda funny and pretty entertaining. To boot he's a great goalie with a great story, he was drafted in 94 didn't make his NHL debut until 2002-2003 (where he played all of 4 games) and wasn't a starter until 2005-2006, now he's a vezina winner. A total out of nowhere success story, what's not to admire. |
Ah, ok. I mean he normally has a good disposition. Sarcasm is difficult to send through font.
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Nah he's known to be an angry fella, but it's not a bad thing, it's a good thing
This is a good piece on Timmy http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/james_duthie/?id=255419 Quote:
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Tim is awesome!
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0 games for Chara...
Common sense tells you the hit was 100% revenge...but Chara's been clean for 13 years. If it were Matt Cooke that did this, you'd hang him out to dry because of his past history. Since Chara doesn't have that type of history, he shouldn't get a massive suspension, but he shouldn't have got a pass either. Little side note...Colin Campbell's son Gregory plays for the Bruins. |
pathetic, the NHL is such a bush league
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At any rate I think Chara should of gotten a few games even with 13 years without an incident. |
Chara should have been a bit more aware seeing first hand how devastating those types of hits can be to a team with Marc Savard out for the year.
Can't completely blame him since Bruins-Canadians games tend to be more emotional and physical especially the past few years but at the same time, he can't just do reckless hits causing the team to lose him for a series of games due to a stupid mistake by him. |
The right call was made. Chara maybe should have known his surroundings better but if that opening isn't there, we aren't even thinking about this.
Some really dumb comments from some of you. |
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slu...ens-pacioretty I'd agree with the no previous thing of this sort, but the fact remains, Chara knew what he was doing, knew where he was and most of all knows his hits send people flying. Thats besides the fact, it was a borderline illegal hit. Its alright to defend your team, but drawn the line somewhere man. |
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Even if he didn't see the divider, part of a player's job is to know his position on the ice. If the divider isn't there, the hit is still dirty because it's well after Pacioretti has gotten rid of the puck. Even if Chara didn't have intent on the hit, it doesn't matter. If I have a gun and I'm waving it around and accidentally shoot someone, I'm fucked, whether I intended to or not. He should've got at least a few games suspension. |
Wow... you guys are so smart.
You guys should be on the discipline committee. You would do a much better job. |
First video Lara posted is awful by the way. Bruins commentators trying to justify it. Stupid.
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Bruins commentators are the biggest homers of all time and I love it.
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Hell, a TORONTO fan is voicing opinion against Chara for a hit on a Montreal player.
Just because its a player on a team I root for doesnt matter, hell if it was Kessel I would say the same thing. fact of the matter is, the kid is what 20-21 years old and may not play hockey again. Chara knows full well the severity of hits like that, as he fucking witnessed one when Savard was laid out. |
Here Spilly, justify this.
Look at Charas left arm muscle, he is pushing with it. http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/phot...BpltfstjBbc%3D |
Oh and one other thing.
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HSVF5bZFv_w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Even the Boston Globe guy said the hit was dirty and deserved a suspension.
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Simply put, being a fan of a team doesnt make them immune from your ridicule. Do you think Pens fans for one second condone Matt Cooke's hit on Savard?
Ask LoDownM who is a Pitts fan whether he tried to defend Cooke. I dont believe he did, he knew it was a dirty hit. Being a fan is about loving the franchise, it is not about defending any actions of the players wearing the sweater. |
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Only thing I ever said about the Cooke hit on Savard is that it was legal at the time. It was still a cheap hit and I'm glad it's now against the rules. |
Yeah, at the time it was a "clean" hit. :roll:
I know what you meant but still :roll: |
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I'm not condoning it, but I think it's a bad example because technically it wasn't an illegal hit at the time, it was a kind of hit that Scott Stevens built a career on. But now thankfully the NHL had said enough is enough (though they really haven't) and deemed it an illegal hit from here on out and to that I say great. So basically I condemn the Cooke hit while at the same time support the NHL decision at the time to not suspend him. With this Chara hit though it was already an illegal hit, Chara had no business making that hit and to boot from replays it certainly looks liked he purposely gave Pacioretty an extra shove that caused him to go right into that turnbuckle. |
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Anyways, I agree with what you are saying. Im glad NHL started to crack down on pieces of crap like Cooke. |
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357316.
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Oh, wasnt aware it was actually called a turnbuckle lol.
Though, straight from the guys mouth. He didnt feel it was a mistake. |
He did get the one automatic game though for a 5 minute major correct?
So he's not scot-free.... just not getting anymore than he did.... |
<table summary="Penalty Summary"><tbody><tr><td class="time title" scope="row">19:44</td> <td class="team title">Boston</td> <td class="penalty title">interference - 5 min</td> <td class="player title">Z. Chara drawn by M. Pacioretty served by S. Thornton</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td class="time title" scope="row">19:44</td> <td class="team title">Boston</td> <td class="penalty title">game misconduct - 10 min</td> <td class="player title">Z. Chara drawn by M. Pacioretty</td></tr></tbody></table>
From yahoo. I dont believe he gets the one game suspension though. Even Pac said he wished Chara got even one game. |
From what I can tell, he added to his PIM total and thats about it.
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Yup, no suspension AT ALL.
The Montreal police opened an investigation about the event by the way. |
I wonder if people accusing Chara of doing this on purpose are taking into account the physics, timing, and execution such a ‘perfect’ plan would require. But a conspiracy theory makes for better reading than bad luck.
Air Canada is a such a fucking joke too. I’m sure glad they took this stance last year when Marc Savard was maimed in what was a vicious elbow. Oh that’s right, they didn’t say a fucking word because it wasn’t a Montreal Canadien that had to be scraped off the ice. |
Air Canada? What about them?
And Spilchuk, when's the last time you've played hockey? I can tell you that the way they were going, it didn't take a "master plan" to get Pacioretty like this. They were side by side, near the glass, and Chara is so fucking huge. Pushing someone out of balance on skates is very easy, and at the speed they were going, of course it wasn't going to end well. Trust me. |
If the glass isn't open is this even talked about?
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Not even close!
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That's the thing you don't seem to understand. OF COURSE it's not talked about if the glass isn't there. But Chara saw an opportunity to get even and took it. Pacioretty hit him after the overtime goal in January, Chara didn't like it. He tried to get his hands on him in February, couldn't. Now he had his opportunity, and took it. That's it.
It wasn't a huge conspiracy by Chara to deliberately get Pacioretty near the glass and then behead him, we get that. They just happened to be there, he saw his chance to get even, he made the cheap push to get him in the glass, the consequences were much worse than he anticipated, but he still did it. The video replays, the pictures, they all clearly show the push. |
Hell, it's like that time Kostopoulos checked Van Ryn from behind and nearly killed him. Kostopoulos didn't mean to injure him, and it wouldn't have been talked about if Van Ryn didn't turn around at the last second. Kostopoulos could have braked, but he still went ahead with the hit, with the consequences we know. Kostopoulos was suspended. That's it. No conspiracy, but he still chose to take the opportunity to hit when he could have passed.
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It is insane to think that he hit him into the glass on purpose. Fans like you are why hockey is in the shape it is in. I'm done with the topic on here. What a waste of fucking time.
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That's nice because I think the exact same thing about you. Talking hockey with most people sucks because it's guys like you who scream murder when your team gets beaten, but become overprotective any time it's implied that one of your precious players did something dickish. Nobody will think less of you because a player on your favorite team did something cheap. I know you're knowledgeable about hockey, which is why I think it's insane to see you protect Chara like that just because he's a Bruins.
The hit on Pacioretty was bad. The hit on Savard was also bad. I'm sure someone on the Habs probably did something cheap in the last few year as well. Hell, we had Lapierre on the roster for a bit, so it probably happened. Just watch the replay again and see for yourself. Yes, he pushed him. That's not even questionable. I know he didn't want to break is neck. Nobody plays hockey to injure someone, at least I like to think so. But it still happened. |
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