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Innovator 10-09-2011 07:37 PM

So far talks with Cashman are going well, both sides think a deal will be reached by the end of this week.

ClockShot 10-09-2011 10:08 PM

Good to hear.

Any BoSox or Cubs fans hear anything on Epstein. Did Boston give him the green light to talk?

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2011 10:41 PM

Only just the Cubs saying they wanted to get permission to talk to Theo and the owner hinting Theo won't always stay as just a GM forever. Theo wants to have a higher management title but not possible with the Red Sox.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3649979)
So far talks with Cashman are going well, both sides think a deal will be reached by the end of this week.

A bit surprised he keeps wanting to come back with all the "trashing" and rumors of getting fired he gets every year from management/fans and him usually hinting it could be his last year or wants to move on in the near future.

ClockShot 10-09-2011 10:49 PM

Even with the 2010-'11 offseason and the trade deadline people were bitching and moaning that he didn't grab anybody "big". In reality, it worked out. But come on, the 2009 campaign sealed the deal.

As I said on the last page, Levine going over his head and "forcing" him to sign Soriano just so we got a "big name" during the offseason probably pissed him off.

owenbrown 10-09-2011 10:53 PM

bunch of pissed off people on the MLB site because they postponed game 2 of the ALCS yet there is no rain anywhere near Arlington

RP 10-10-2011 07:56 AM

Apparently it's being reported Theo was spotted in Chicago. Buster Olney just said if he gets the right offer, he's gone.

Innovator 10-10-2011 08:17 AM

I'd jump at the chance if I was Tito, if I could end the curse for the Cubs I wouldn't have to pay for anything in the city again.

Evil Vito 10-10-2011 08:43 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, if Theo and Tito ended another curse, they'd probably become instant Hall of Famers just for that. They'd also probably be able to travel around Chicago on thrones.</font>

screech 10-10-2011 09:16 AM

Free deep dish pizza for life?

Aguakate 10-10-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3650416)
I'd jump at the chance if I was Tito, if I could end the curse for the Cubs I wouldn't have to pay for anything in the city again.

I wonder how Boston feels about him today, even after he ended their curse and gave them an extra Title.

They probably would still be like "Terry's a faaaaaaggot".

Supreme Olajuwon 10-10-2011 06:16 PM

Yeah Boston fans gave him the boot and Cubs fans are 7 million time more faggoty than Red Sox fans.

screech 10-10-2011 06:30 PM

Between the Chicago teams, I definitely prefer the White Sox.

ClockShot 10-10-2011 08:58 PM

Detroit/Texas is going into extras.

Triple Naitch 10-10-2011 09:01 PM

Can't believe the Rangers stranded bases loaded with no outs.

Triple Naitch 10-10-2011 09:47 PM

Sick walkoff grand slam by Nelly Cruz.

ClockShot 10-10-2011 10:00 PM

Unless Detroit got an extra Verlander on ice somewhere, the Tigers are in trouble me thinks.

Triple Naitch 10-10-2011 10:21 PM

Tigers have been screwed on days that Verlander pitches. Each time he has started, it rained limiting his innings and killing their chances.

Aguakate 10-11-2011 12:56 AM

Milwaukee fans don't deserve to see the Brewers go to the World Series.

Did they get their asses kicked tonight? Yeah. But for the fans to get up and leave, with their team playing in Game 2 of the NLCS, at home, is ridiculous.

Triple Naitch 10-11-2011 08:03 AM

At least they showed up, unlike in St. Petersburg.

Emperor Smeat 10-11-2011 04:40 PM

Yeah at least in Milwaukee's defense, the Cardinals hammered the Brewers early on in comparison to the Rays who have struggled to sell out their playoff games the past 3 times they've made the playoffs.

Its not just Tampa but more of a Florida problem because even the Marlins had problems and those were World Series title years.

ClockShot 10-11-2011 08:18 PM

MLBTR is reporting the Cubs and Theo Epstein are close to a deal and something might get announced within a day or two. Boston is looking for something big to come back their way if they're gonna let Theo walk.

Triple Naitch 10-11-2011 08:21 PM

Come on....Starlin Castro.

Triple Naitch 10-11-2011 08:23 PM

Ben Cherington will probably take over for Theo if it goes through. Can't really say it's an absolute huge loss as Cherington has worked under him for a long time and probably learned some of his traits. I've heard Theo wanted to get promoted beyond GM, but those positions are filled long-term.

ClockShot 10-11-2011 10:03 PM

Also from MLBTR.

Baltimore has gathered 6 names for their GM opening. They are: Josh Byrnes of the Padres, Gerry Hunsicker of the Rays, J.P. Ricciardi of the Mets, Thad Levine of the Rangers, Tony LaCava of the Blue Jays and Dan Jennings of the Marlins. They all got an equal shot to be president of baseball operations as well.

Former Reds GM Wayne Krivsky, Yankees scouting director Damon Oppenheimer, Phillies assistant GM Scott Proefrock and Rangers senior director of player development Scott Servais are also possible candidates.

RP 10-11-2011 10:45 PM

what a fucking clutch hit that was by Cabrera.

RP 10-11-2011 11:03 PM

It really looks like Epstein is coming to the Cubs. Wow.

RP 10-11-2011 11:04 PM

Quade probably packing his clothes right now.

RP 10-11-2011 11:41 PM

Doug Fister has been fucking epic

Emperor Smeat 10-12-2011 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3651674)
MLBTR is reporting the Cubs and Theo Epstein are close to a deal and something might get announced within a day or two. Boston is looking for something big to come back their way if they're gonna let Theo walk.

Chicago gets:
Theo Epstein

Boston gets:
The green ivy wall

:shifty:

DaveWadding 10-12-2011 01:09 AM

Epstein/Sandberg 2012

RP 10-12-2011 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 3651829)
Epstein/Sandberg 2012

Fuck yah!

I'm going to opening day next year I hope. Think it s against the Nationals, which means Strasburg

RoXer 10-12-2011 02:31 AM

Brian Wilson's relentless chalupa hawking

Aguakate 10-12-2011 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 3651829)
Epstein/Sandberg 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taint Whisperer (Post 3651841)
Fuck yah!

I'm going to opening day next year I hope. Think it s against the Nationals, which means Strasburg

I'd prefer Theo bringing in Ryne Sandberg, than a Theo/Tito reunion in Chicago...yet I have a feeling that as soon as Theo joins the Cubs, people will start asking if Terry Francona will follow him.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-12-2011 07:57 AM

Hey Tito I know you won two World Series, but we're gonna go with the rookie. Hope you understand!

Evil Vito 10-12-2011 10:26 AM

Epstein to the Cubs. 5 years, $15 million.

MVP 10-12-2011 10:35 AM

Hopefully the Red Sox get some prospects out of this and not just cash. John Henry and the organization aren't exactly strapped for money.

Innovator 10-12-2011 10:46 AM

Hey Chicago waddya say sabremetrics in your town today

Triple Naitch 10-12-2011 11:50 AM

Anybody else notice the Rangers growing Amish playoff beards?

Innovator 10-12-2011 12:00 PM

Buster Olney really thinks the Yankees are gonna make a play for Joey Votto.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-12-2011 03:03 PM

And all it'll cost you is the low low price of Nova, Hughes, Robertson and Gardner! How could you pass that up? You don't need pitchers! You need hitters!

Innovator 10-12-2011 03:16 PM

How about Joba and a ham sandwich?

screech 10-12-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3652181)
And all it'll cost you is the low low price of Nova, Hughes, Robertson and Gardner! How could you pass that up? You don't need pitchers! You need hitters!

They can't sign fast enough!

screech 10-12-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3652201)
How about Joba and a ham sandwich?

If it's Tavern Ham I think they'd go for it.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-12-2011 03:44 PM

I highly doubt the Yankees or anybody is going to trade for Votto this offseason. He's still under contract for two more years.

I suspect that Votto's name will be thrown out repeatedly by teams trying to sign Pujols and Fielder as a way to saturate the market and lower their asking prices.

Innovator 10-12-2011 05:40 PM

Good to see the Boston owners didn't throw anyone under the bus upon leaving town.

Innovator 10-12-2011 05:40 PM

And apparently Lester, Beckett, and Lackey all love the fried chicken. And video games. And beers. During games.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-12-2011 06:11 PM

I always wondered why players got fat when they went to the Red Sox. Makes sense.

MVP 10-12-2011 06:13 PM

They must be the ones keeping the Popeye's across from Fenway in business.

Skippord 10-12-2011 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3652201)
How about Joba and a ham sandwich?

Joba would eat the sandwich long before they got to Cincinnati

Evil Vito 10-12-2011 06:40 PM

<font color=goldenrod>The Marlins are reportedly looking to sign a superstar or two this offseason, however they do not want to commit to long contracts. As such, it's being said that they are mulling giving out the first ever 3-year, $100 million contract.

God that would be so hilariously stupid.</font>

Emperor Smeat 10-12-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3652289)
And apparently Lester, Beckett, and Lackey all love the fried chicken. And video games. And beers. During games.

At least now there is an actual explanation to how Beckett gets soo dam fat during the season, especially when he first shows up during Spring Training.

Usually every other year he shows up with a gut larger than last time and either has it all season (struggles that year) or by June its gone (good year).

Triple Naitch 10-12-2011 06:44 PM

Not as dumb as the contracts that pay 40 year olds $25 million. They'll easily make that money back on tickets and merchandising if they sign a Pujols and the player will still be young enough to sign another huge deal.

ClockShot 10-12-2011 06:55 PM

The Astros sale should be done around mid-november and ultimately, the team will move to the AL and play in the west division.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3652289)
And apparently Lester, Beckett, and Lackey all love the fried chicken. And video games. And beers. During games.

You also forgot Francona is a bit of a pill popper.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-12-2011 09:10 PM

I might not be paying close attention, but Buck and McCarver haven't been terrible during this series so far. Couple of cringe worthy moments but not too bad.

Loose Cannon 10-12-2011 10:47 PM

every time Mcarver mentions Bob Gibson, take a drink :love:

Aguakate 10-12-2011 11:22 PM

Nelson Cruz is outta his MIND!

Emperor Smeat 10-12-2011 11:37 PM

Texas has good hitting but didn't expect them to be this great against the Tigers pitching. 2nd game this series where they hit a bomb in extras to win the game.

Aguakate 10-12-2011 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3652406)
I might not be paying close attention, but Buck and McCarver haven't been terrible during this series so far. Couple of cringe worthy moments but not too bad.

Maybe it's because the TBS guys are so bad.

DaveWadding 10-12-2011 11:51 PM

BOOMSTICK

screech 10-13-2011 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3652454)
Texas has good hitting but didn't expect them to be this great against the Tigers pitching. 2nd game this series where they hit a bomb in extras to win the game.

Thought the same thing. Picked the Tigers on my show so I'm kinda hoping for a mammoth comeback, but I'd be happy with Texas winning.

Aguakate 10-13-2011 01:07 AM

I'm pulling for the Rangers, but I fully expect Detroit to win tomorrow. You'd think Verlander is going to go out there and pitch the game of his life.

However, if Texas beats Verlander tomorrow again, then I think it's safe to say they will win the World Series.

RP 10-13-2011 03:26 AM

Sticking with my original pick, Brewers vs Texas, but I rather see Brewers vs Verlanders

Evil Vito 10-13-2011 02:24 PM

Leyland is literally putting the entire season on Verlander. Valverde and Benoit are not available today.

MVP 10-13-2011 04:25 PM

Ben Cherington, VP of Player Personnel, named the new Red Sox GM.

Innovator 10-13-2011 04:45 PM

legend and I were talking about how players don't show any emotion in baseball, which makes Njer Morgan the most vilified player. What if players showed emotion?

What if a batter made the motion for the crowd to get loud when the bases were loaded?

What if someone hit a home run and took out a flipcam and recorded it?

What if a pitcher did the Hogan posedown after a key strikeout?

Innovator 10-13-2011 04:45 PM

OKGO

Emperor Smeat 10-13-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 3652981)
Ben Cherington, VP of Player Personnel, named the new Red Sox GM.

Good move considering he's been working with Theo ever since Theo joined in 2002 and originally was meant to replace him when Theo "quit" in 2005.


Tigers are going to struggle a lot today in making Verlander have to carry the team once Leyland said no setup man or closer would be available. Its bad enough that Verlander has struggled a bit in comparison to the regular season and hasn't been as great although the rain delays messed up his pitch schedule the most.

Aguakate 10-13-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3652886)
Leyland is literally putting the entire season on Verlander. Valverde and Benoit are not available today.

Rangers lead 1-0 in the 3rd.

Aguakate 10-13-2011 07:39 PM

DAMMIT.

F'N Tigers. Just delaying the inevitable (the Rangers advancing to the World Series).

ClockShot 10-13-2011 07:48 PM

Rangers are ready to give CC Sabathia a boatload of money if he opts out of his deal.

Oh, and Lance Berkman and Jacoby Ellsbury are your Comback Players of the Year.

Evil Vito 10-13-2011 08:42 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Wow. Coke is being hung out to dry here.

-edit-

He got out of it. Hella tense.</font>

OssMan 10-13-2011 11:35 PM

here roxer

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/ps/y2011/gigapan.jsp

find yourself and cancerfriend and post it

RP 10-14-2011 01:44 AM

The city of Boston should be embarrassed. Smear the names of the two people who brought you two titles in seven years? Wow. I would be outraged at the Boston owners and media if I were a Red Sox fan. They should build statues for Francona and Epstein right now.

RoXer 10-14-2011 01:47 AM

I was at game 4

RP 10-14-2011 01:53 AM

Also, I realize Theo is not to big on giving long contracts to guys over 30, but Puljos is unstoppable right now and his post season numbers are some of the best in the history of the game.

RoXer 10-14-2011 01:55 AM

damn, found a pretty good doppleganger though

also found the same old dude who was sitting next to me. guess he had tix to both games

Emperor Smeat 10-14-2011 01:56 AM

Looks like there could be some issues with the Cubs attempt at getting Theo Epstien.

The club is having a problem creating a list of potential low level prospects that would be any good or even be taken by the Red Sox in the deal. The main problem is creating the actual list because nobody in Cubs management has agreed to which prospects are possible while locking away too many right now.

Theo is also still in Boston working with the GM to find a new manager and is still negotiating to bring some staff with him to Chicago. Its assumed he will get 2 low to mid-level staff members like previous GMs and managers were allowed when they left.

Aguakate 10-14-2011 02:01 AM

I'd think Theo would rather go after Prince, than Pujols.

In reality, I really DO wonder if Theo would go after both CC and Fielder, and if he could actually sign them both. The Cubs would have to pay a lot extra for all the fabric that will go into making their uniforms, but...it'd be worth it.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2011 02:36 AM

glad the good guys won today

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2011 02:37 AM

don't dislike the Rangers tho

they're the good guys too

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2011 02:38 AM

although getting tired of cities winning multiple championships in the same year

Supreme Olajuwon 10-14-2011 02:39 AM

well I guess that hasn't happened in a few years either

so yeah Rangers are fine I guess

RP 10-14-2011 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3653537)
Looks like there could be some issues with the Cubs attempt at getting Theo Epstien.

The club is having a problem creating a list of potential low level prospects that would be any good or even be taken by the Red Sox in the deal. The main problem is creating the actual list because nobody in Cubs management has agreed to which prospects are possible while locking away too many right now.

Theo is also still in Boston working with the GM to find a new manager and is still negotiating to bring some staff with him to Chicago. Its assumed he will get 2 low to mid-level staff members like previous GMs and managers were allowed when they left.

I crack up at Sox fans who think they will sniff any of the Cubs to 20 prospects. I read somewhere that someone was thinking they should get Cashner or McNutt. Laugh.

Hardkore Kidd J 10-14-2011 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3653538)
I'd think Theo would rather go after Prince, than Pujols.

In reality, I really DO wonder if Theo would go after both CC and Fielder, and if he could actually sign them both. The Cubs would have to pay a lot extra for all the fabric that will go into making their uniforms, but...it'd be worth it.

You don't realize how scared this post made me. If CC goes to the Cubs that's not as bad as what I was thinking about Fielder and CC going to the Sox. Okay, we all know that the Yankees aren't gonna let CC get away without a Plan B. So, I say they go hard after CJ Wilson, and make a trade. I know that I don't wanna empty out our farm system but if CC goes we might need to. Hughes can not be trusted. And neither can Burnett.

And Nova........ well don't get me wrong I really do love the guy, but it was his first year. You remember another rookie that had a really good year by the name of Joba Chamberlain? Now , I am not saying that Nova is gonna end up like that. God, I hope not.

It's simple we're gonna need a number 1 and if CC goes I am afraid we are gonna need to empty our farm to get him. Or they could just take their chances with CJ Wilson being their number 1 if CC leaves.

Evil Vito 10-14-2011 08:14 AM

<font color=goldenrod>LOL Cubs if the Theo deal falls apart over a prospect list.</font>

RP 10-14-2011 09:40 AM

Would be such a Cub thing to do.

Aguakate 10-14-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J (Post 3653604)
You don't realize how scared this post made me. If CC goes to the Cubs that's not as bad as what I was thinking about Fielder and CC going to the Sox.

It COULD happen, I mean, if Theo Epstein finally does go to the Cubs, he's going to want to make an impact fast, make a "splash", because of the pressure and expectations.

ClockShot 10-14-2011 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3653555)
well I guess that hasn't happened in a few years either

so yeah Rangers are fine I guess

Psst. You forgot the Mavs won the NBA title this year.

OssMan 10-14-2011 06:35 PM

why don't they have the tagorama for game 4

OssMan 10-14-2011 06:36 PM

big vito what colour do you post in? darkgoldenrod?

Hardkore Kidd J 10-14-2011 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3653870)
It COULD happen, I mean, if Theo Epstein finally does go to the Cubs, he's going to want to make an impact fast, make a "splash", because of the pressure and expectations.

I know I think you got confused. What scared me was the fact that CC and Fielder could go to the Red Sox. I mean if the Cubs get CC and Fielder good for them. We would survive especially since they aren't in the same league. It's much scarier if CC and Fielder went to the Sox. Now if CC went to the Cubs it's easier for us we'll find a replacement somehow if CC goes to the Cubs.

OssMan 10-14-2011 09:53 PM

look at albert pujols

OssMan 10-14-2011 09:57 PM

look at yuniesky betancourt

OssMan 10-14-2011 10:19 PM

look at carlos gomez

Aguakate 10-14-2011 10:39 PM

Look at Dotel!

...and his socks. It's...beautiful.

RoXer 10-15-2011 02:19 AM

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Testicle 10-15-2011 10:35 PM

:'(

Aguakate 10-15-2011 10:38 PM

Well, the Rangers are going to the World Series!

Aguakate 10-16-2011 12:05 AM

LOL is Nelson Cruz for real?!

Emperor Smeat 10-16-2011 12:43 AM

Rangers hammered the Tigers badly. They better hope those bats don't suddenly become cold like last year where they looked strong against the Yankees and then disappeared during the World Series.


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