Catwoman and Talia Al Ghul, maybe?

Hasn't Rachel Weisz always been rumored to play Talia? That rumor has been around for years.

Rachel Weisz for Catwoman PLEASE.

Or Keira Knightley as Talia, but that would mean the return of the mountain ninjas/possibly semi-immortal ecoterrorist plot that TDK swayed very far from in terms of tone.

Blake Lively is already gonna be in Green Lantern. I know DC doesn't have shared movie-verse, but that would still be weird.

She has to tone up for a slutty Pink Lantern uniform down the line.

Alot of this was supposed to be shot in NOLA but sadly, it is not.. I talked to Wally Pfister, the Director of Photography when I worked with him last week..

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Anne Hathaway would be awesome

Kiera Knightley wouldn't be awesome.

I'd read somewhere they were shooting some interior scenes in New Orleans.

they are doing their shooting in new orleans... theyre not shooting in chicago at all which kindof sucks for us chicagoans

I've read they are.

The story I heard was the studio stuff is all in NO, and the exterior shots will be in Chicago, since it's obviously been established as the basis of Gotham in Begins and TDK.

I hope they bring back some of the more stylized looking Gotham from Batman Begins.

Yea def. I think they intentionally made Gotham look different (nicer) in TDK because Batman was succeeding in cleaning it up, and they were dealing with a different part of town (police, mayor, etc).
I'd like to see the Narrows again, and some new places.

'Tokyo' Gotham is surely replaced by 'Chi-Town' Gotham. Though I do miss 'Begins Gotham, too.

Tom Hardy is reportedly playing Dr Hugo Strange in Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark Knight Rises'.

According to Total Film, the closing chapter in Nolan's hugely successful Batman trilogy will be based on the graphic novel 'Prey'.

The story revolves around a demented police psychiatrist named Dr Hugo Strange. In a bid to bring Batman out of hiding (which would tie in nicely with the closing scene in 'The Dark Knight') he hypnotises a police officer into becoming a vigilante.

The 'Inception' star is signed up for the movie, but it has been unclear which part he will play - following Nolan's reveal that The Riddler won't be in the movie.
That was the presumed villain, but it now looks like Hardy will play a relatively minor character in the Batman universe instead.

hmmmm bit disappointed in that, but I'm sure it will be really good, regardless.

If it is Strange, I can't imagine we'll be seeing anyone doped up on his monster serum.

Prey would certainly fit the setup from the end of The Dark Knight though since it involves a police task force trying to hunt down Batman with Strange's help.

Will Hugo Strange or this police task force be the only antagonist though? I have doubts that a Nolan Batman movie will be that simple.
You have to wonder if there'll be another big baddie too. The mob will still be there, and there's also the female lead in the air.
I'd say Catwoman and Black Mask are still additional possibilites, among others.

I have to admit I'd be a little disappointed if Hugo Strange was the only villain, coming off the heels of a movie that featured Joker and Two-Face.
But really I just hope it's a great movie.

Dr Hugo Strange is perfect for Nolan.

They were gonna come do all the stage work here but the studio starting pressuring Nolan to shoot more of it here due to our tax incentive, he got mad and said they were gonna shoot all of it in Chicago..

I hope they come here as I know the DP and would prolly work on it..

Yea, I bet there will be another villan besides him. I thought Strange was a Marvel character or maybe I am thinking of someone else

I hope so, LC, I sure hope so.

You're thinking of Doctor Strange.

Hugo Strange is a Professor. Hence the probable confusion.

ah ok. Just read this on Wiki

"Dr. Hugo Strange is an insane psychologist who uses his mastery of chemistry to create a serum that turns his victims into mindless brutes who obey his every command. It has also been implied that the idea for the Scarecrow's "fear-gas" came from Dr. Hugo Strange"

I do agree with using him if they can connect him with Scarecrow.


But I do hope they throw in another villan. we've seen multiple storylines in these movies, so I am sure it will happen.

Here's an interesting tidbit from Ain't It Cool News. Heath Ledger's Joker may have a cameo in DKR.

Christopher Nolan doesn't really strike me as the kind of film-maker who would stoop to doing this.

I don't really think it serves The Dark Knight Rises in any way and surely The Dark Knight was tribute enough to Heath Ledger.

Anyway, its probably bullshit anyway seeing as it comes from that arsehole Harry Knowles.

Unless its cut film from him in the jail cell or in the back of a police car then I don't want to see it.

No reason to show footage of him in the streets.

Yea, if they could pull it off without it looking piss poor. I dunno. What are the chances they have good footage of him saying stuff relating to what Batman would have to see him for?
They could easily use interrogation room footage and shoot Batman seperately, and even change the walls and lighting.
But how it would look, and what they'd be able to get from him would be the questions.

As always with this sequel Joker talk, I say probably leave it as is.
It'd be nice to see a test of what they could do though. Apparently that technology is better than we may think. I read something about using this process to create new scenes for Grand Moff Tarkin in Episode 3 was possible, but they didn't go with it.

With the right master footage, recordings and proper lighting a cool scene with the Joker can be done in jail or something.

Nolan shot down the rumour. Ain't happening.

They used similar technology in Superman Returns to bring some of Marlon Brando's unused footage from the original Superman film into the new movie, patched together to create a new scene. I think that this could work for the Joker, though I'm not one who is against the recasting of the role.

Because he's loud?

This makes great sense. Shows continuity and moves it in a new layer and direction.

Kalyx already posted it in the DC news thread, but Tom Hardy is Bane and Anne Hathway is Selina Kyle. As excited as I am for this movie, it just increased a hundredfold. Selina is the icing on the cake, but a properly done Bane has been my dream since I read Knightfall.

And I could give a fuck that he's supposed to be Latin.

They'll just smear him in fake tan and get him to put on a bad accent.

I wanted Mr. Freeze, but I can live with Bane.

Quick thing about Christopher Nolan. In every one his movies the leading lady always is a brunette. Maybe the only exception is The Presteige, but I'm unsure of Scarlett Johansson's natural hair color.

Does anyone else besides me find that interesting?

Not sure if hair color is intentional, Selina Kyle is usually brunette (blond for a while because of Tim Burton's version).

Bane makes sense with Hugo Strange being in it, since he's known for his monster serum, which in this version, I am going to assume is Venom.

I just hope it's not like the comics where it turns those infected into mindless lackeys, as that would take away everything that is great about Bane.

Was Hugo Strange ever actually confirmed though? There was that rumour that they were following the storyline, and then everyone just assumed that Hardy would be playing him.

Oh, I thought he was.

Nah, he was only ever a rumour.

Soooooo....Batmans gunna die at the end?

Why would you think that?

Not die but didn't Bane leave him a parapeligic in the comics? And there had to. Be a new Batman?

Maybe something like that happens in the movie?

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I don't think they'll follow Nightfall to that degree, but I'm certain 'a breaking' of some sort will factor into the movie. You can't have Bane and not do something with that. It's like how in every appearance Doomsday made after his debut Superman would be like, "Oh damn, the dude that killed me" or even in another media Doomsday's treated as a force that could put down Superman. When Bane first appeared in Batman: TAS they teased the breaking hard (fuckers).

So while we may not see a Batman movie reboot featuring Jean Paul Valley's crazy-ass, Batman will be put through the ringer here. Me thinks.

I for one think this would be amazing.

You just wanna see that badass suit.

Is that so wrong?

No.

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He served brutal 90's justice.

That is a thing of beauty.

That is a thing of gayness.

Well apparently I need to reevaluate some things in my life.

Huzzah for jagged edges and pouches!

Tom Hardy (Shinzon from Star Trek Nemesis) doesn't seem like the roided up type. They should have picked Batista.

lol No

Tom Hardy has already played a huge guy. I'm sure he'll fit the part.

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Nolan has gone on record about how this is "the end" and how they were excited to be able to write this as the finale of their Batman story. Unlike comics, things don't need to be left open.
I think all bets are off, really. I'm not saying I think Batman will flat out die, but I think some variation on Bane breaking The Bat is possible.

Glad to see that they decided to include Catwoman but in the same token I'm not so sure I like the casting choice and as for Hardy I thought he'd be suited better for one of the more cerebral villians.

Bane is a very cerebral villain. Moreso than most any of them.

Yeah, guy flat out deduced Batman's identity on his own. Then manipulated events in gotham to weaken Batman for when he finally did strike.

lol Jean-Paul Valley. Such a 90s character.

I loved JPV :'(

The character wasn't so bad, it was mainly the costumes. Azreal was alright, but his batman costumes were pretty lousy. The claws? Cool. Everything else? 90's cheese.

Be interesting to see the remaining roles to cast for the movie.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nolan pulls a fly one like he did with Batman Begins and rolls out another villain / plot twist.

There are still the rumors of Hugo Strange and Talia Al Ghul going about.

Is it possible that Nolan creates a world where Selina Kyle is strictly her, till she witness Batman getting broke by Bane, and thus she becomes Catwoman to avenge her man, then Bane kills her and Batman gets out of his wheelchair and kills Bane.....LOL I'M NOT EVEN SERIOUS

I think one of the most interesting things, and obviously important parts of this film, is the way in which they redeem Batman after the ending of The Dark Knight.

Will also be very interesting to see how Batman is viewed now by the ordinary citizens of Gotham, the cops, and particularly the villains.

I hope they just stick to Bane and Catwoman. Two villains is fine, but when you introduce a third, things get complicated and messy. Spider-man 3 is a perfect example.

Batman Begins had three villains, so did Dark Knight.

I do not count the mobsters. They are minor characters that were given very little screen time. They're mobsters. That's all you need to know.

Actual super-villains however, need to be fleshed out a little more. Trying to do three at once can be problematic.

Spider-man 3 was atrocious. But it has to be remembered, Sam Raimi had to deal with constant studio interference and it is alleged he was never happy with the script, a rushed production schedule and the choice of Venom as the villain.

Which was a shame, as the first, and particularly the second, Spider-man films were great entertainment.

I don't think Christopher Nolan will suffer that same interference from Warner Brothers.

Bane, sweet. I was wanting him in

Bane as a main villian already in the shit with Batman when the film starts would be cool. THen Catwoman comes along, and plays the tweener. In the end, Bane loses, and Catwoman seems to be a hero, only to disappear or pull some shit to go back to a wild card, that would be cool.

Batman should gets brutally beaten by Bane, and then Joseph Gordon-Levitt (who is rumored to be in the film as well) comes in as the new Batman to kill Bane and take up the mantle of Batman while Bruce is in a wheelchair.

The film would end with everyone from the police to the gangsters to the villains all believing that Batman is unkillable, undestroyable, and that he will always stand as a mark for those fighting for good in Gotham City.

Awful idea, Fox.

WHERE'S RACHEL?!

hmmmmm

Wouldn't be against Bane "breaking" Batman. Maybe Bane does that and takes over Gotham for a few months and puts the city through absolute hell. Then Batman comes back and defeats him, and that's how he is redeemed.

Would not want someone taking over as batman. I think a better idea would be a flashback to his league of assassins days, where they show him secret healing techniques that allow him to heal faster. Nothing mystical mind you. Ah hell, I'm just looking for an excuse for a Liam Neeson cameo.

oooooooooo what if Ras escaped the explosion at the last second, and now Bane is his new protege. I could dig that. You wouldn't need to spend any time developing Ras, since everyone already knows who he is and what he is about. So having that extra villain wouldn't hurt the film.

LAZARUS PIT

Literally having the lazarus pit would be too out there for this series I think. Maybe if they called those previously mentioned healing methods the "Lazarus Techniques". That would be a nice little nod. And Ras uses those same techniques to recover, since he couldn't escape that collision without fucking himself up in some way.

Actually really liking my Ras idea. He uses Bane to finally beat batman, and destroy gotham. In the end Batman takes back the city and clears his name. Everything comes full circle.

notice how he's being chased by the cops.... just like how dark knight ended?


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K, so Heyman dogged me to spit out my idea in detail so I might as well post it here too.

Alright, so Batman Begins nailed Ras Ahl Gul pretty much on the head. Only difference is that in the comics, Ras is thousands of years old, and uses this thing called the lazarus pit to restore his youth.

Now don't pull away from me here, I'm not suggesting they use that. But what if Ras escaped that collision from the first film. There are a few seconds between when we see ras, and when the train hits, and he IS the master and tutor of a secret group of assassins, so it's plausible. Seeing that it is still realistic, he would have to get pretty fucked up, even if he did survive. This is where "lazarus pit" comes in.

So in the first one, it is established that the league of assassins isn't some little group, but a global organization that has manipulated history for hundreds of years. It wouldn't be farfetched if they had medical techniques more advanced than the modern world's. They could call them the "lazarus techniques" as a nod to the source material.

So Ras heals from otherwise life dibilatating injuries, and takes Bane on as his new protege. (In the comics Ras took Bane on as his heir, after repeated failed attempts to get Batman to do so.) Together they defeat Batman, and Bane breaks his back, just like he did in the comics. Then Ras decides to bury him alive instead of killing him. As a bonus, he could even say "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." (just thought of that now, btw. fuck I'm brilliant.) Alfred could come save him after they leave. Maybe he tailed them or something. He was a British SAS before he retired, so it's not as unrealistic as it sounds. Catwoman saving him would probably serve the plot better, actually.

Anyway, the next couple of months Bane and Ras aid the criminal element in overruning Gotham. Thus, Ras' failed goal from Batman Begins of setting Gotham on the path to destroying itself, comes to fruition.

Meanwhile, Batman, having trained under the league of assassins, and having the resources that he does, has been using his knowledge of the lazarus medical techniques to heal. Eventually he does, and fights the forces of Ras' and Bane.

Finally he fights them, maybe with the aid of catwoman, in public view, with the whole city watching. So Batman takes down these villains who have been turning their city into hell the last few months and everyone see's it, thereby redeeming himself in the eyes of the gotham people, and also re-establishing his myth, since as far as they know, he came back from the dead.

Everything comes full circle.

And in the last shot, Arnold Shwarzenager as Mr. Freeze pops in the corner and makes an ice pun.

Obviously more catwoman stuff inbetween everything. this is only about what I would do with the main plot.

Are you going to nerdrage when you go to the movies and find out the plot was nothing like how you imagined?

Please don't.

My Batman 3 is better. *sniff*

Nah, it's just an idea, not "how it should be".

I think "Oh I remember now that I have secret healing" is a little bit shit. Deus Ex Machina and shit.

I would like to see a little role reversal actually.

The City sees Batman as a villian after the end of TDK

What if Bane is like a vigilante Hero, chasing down and trying to destroy Batman, not knowing the truth. The City hails Bane as a hero and support him in his pursuit of Batman. Like we know the truth but flip the shit on its side.

Yeah, that's MUCH better. Well done.

I like the idea of the Ras/Bane team. Ras has shown himself capable of surviving things he shouldn't in Batman Begins, so I honestly don't think it's THAT huge of a stretch to have him survive the train wreck. You wouldn't need the lazarus pit at all.

Yeah, only reason I would use it for ras, is so when batman uses it, it's not out of nowhere.

I hated the whole "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" thing. It's just.... why didn't he just tell that to The Joker in the second movie then? The whole big deal was made about him not being able to let Joker die, and having to save him. While I'm just thinking "Ok, he let plenty of people die in the first movie"

Way to save it is perhaps he knew that Ra's would get out of the train in time because of his ninja skills, but at the same time he knew that his plans were foiled anyways, so he let him go (since if he was in custody he could reveal Bruce's secrets).

The train was Ras' doing, and as a trained ninja master type Batman left him to his consequences - and it would seem Ras accepted the defeat.

Joker's a mad man/possible genius who would have died precisely by Batman's hand at that construction site. Not to mention Joker had that in mind as a posthumous 'I told you so' to Batman should he kill the Joker. Batman knew this and that may helped him stay on point.