I put my money against Silva in the Forrest Griffin fight and will never do it again..

It's not about being on someones nuts, it's about seeing that he is the baddest motherfucker walking the face of the earth..

Can he be beat?? Sure.. Prolly will happen someday, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna pick against him..

Still don't see why you guys get so upset.. Pretty sure its cause you are on GSP's nuts and are being hypocritical..

BLARGH you're such a retard. I fucking love Anderson Silva, and I love GSP, but I can acknowledge their weaknesses. You can't do that because you're retarded.

fucking stop it

"BLAH BLAH BLAH ANDERSON SILVA'S SUCH A BADASS THEREFORE I CANNOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE COULD LOSE TO GSP, EVEN THOUGH HE HAS PROVEN THAT HE IS ALSO A BADASS"

Go fuck yourself mma expert.

"I train therefore I know everything, because I know Andrei Arlovski and Mike Russow." STFU I don't care. Yeah you're a badass, doesn't mean you know EVERYTHING.

I've seen pro fighters make the most retarded predictions and put forth the worst analysis.

ong :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I really wish people would stop trying to say that the reason Anderson took that beating from Chael was so that he could sub him at the last second.

I also wish people would stop forgetting the fact that Silva did have a rib injury in that fight and Sonnen was probably stronger than he's been in any other fight due to his higher levels of testosterone.

Even if GSP is able to get Silva to the ground no one wants to watch a fight like that. GSP doesn't have ground and pound or slick subs and it would probably be more grinding than anything else if it went that way. If anything, GSP's take downs would turn it into a fight where Anderson doesn't engage and merely dances around and mocks GSP for four rounds instead of chasing him or opening himself up to be taken down.

you pretty much hands down say the most retarded things all the time... give me examples of when both you and IC have ever said anything that make sense ever. Please.... jesus christ dude get a fucking clue

"I'm semi-pro/amatuer, I know everything".. I guess after I'm done 6 months of boxing and wrestling traing and get a fight under my belt, I'll make sense then too.

"I have my own mma t-shirt"...

I really don't see how insults helps here, but it is fun.

That's the thing, you guys get super butthurt like I am saying GSP is horrible or something..

I never said that..

I just think that if/when they do fight, Silva will knock him out.. More or a testament to Silva, than a knock at GSP..

You are crying like little bitches..

Yes we get it, Silva will knock him, nevermind anything else you said, or your reasoning behind it..

I'm just crying though.

it doesnt even have to do with me being a fighter. It has to do with me paying attention to what goes on like reading articles and watching the fights.


basically the edgar penn fight was just compared to a silva/gsp fight. Thats ridiculous... you have two fights with fighters with complete different styles going at it.


Now against a strong wrestler that can attack the legs, silva can get in trouble. But to say that GSP will put him on his back like sonnen did shows me that you dont even actually think about whats going on.

Silva gets in trouble against guys that will fight through the punches and AGGRESSIVELY go for the takedown. IE sonnen, and lutter.

Ive said it before (and i cant find the thread to just quote it) But GSP isnt necessarily the best wrestler in mma, hes probably just the greatest athlete. How many times have you seen him just blast a double leg into guys to take them down (especially since his loss to serra)? GSP mixes his strikes with takedowns and what he does is get guys to get offensive on the feet, and he then cuts under them to their legs (alves, bj, hardy, even matt serra). When someone is completely off balance, its not hard to take them down.

My point is, GSP is a counter wrestler while silva is a counter striker. GSP not going to get out of position to take a shot. Hes not the same type of wrestler to fight through a bas position like sonnen is able to, and you know hes not going to be over aggressive on the feet. So what is he going to do to open silva up?

Silva has shown that if you dont want to attack him, that hes more than willing to sit back and let the crowd boo. Is GSP willing to put a fight like that on? ow granted GSP gets booed when he lays on the guys, but when your actually taking guys down and throwing punches and staying dominant, its a little different than standing in front of your opponent and dancing.

and yes krispy saying that silva layed down there for 4 and a half rounds so that he could send a message by submitting sonnen is so incomprehensibly retarded that he should have to wear a helmet

That was an actual point you made, and not an insult, so you can be insightful.

your right.... i asked you for examples of when youve said anything that at least half-way showed that you knew what you were talking about.

and clearly you cant be

Thats a good point

Good point @ Reav's assesment of a GSP/Silva fight

I don't think GSP has to do anything really to open Silva up, just pick his spots. His best bet maybe trying to force Silva into the cage and take him down from there, taking away Silva space to counter. Then of course you have to worry about the Thai clinche, but GSPs grappling should be good enough to avoid it. I'm not sure what GSP would do going into the fight, but I'm sure he and Greg Jackson would come up some plan to get Silva down.

I need Rated R Classic to comment in this thread because he was really high up on Vitor beating Silva for a long time.

Yes, clearly.

Show me what else I said..

Sure, the Sonnan fight was bad but so was GSP's vs Hardy.. I mean, sure GSP did whatever he wanted transitioning on the ground but he couldn't put Hardy away.. GSP did enough to get a decision.. Don't really see how it's that different than Silva choking Sonnen out in the fifth.. He did enough to win.. GSP couldn't do shit to Hardy on top and Silva has proven he is so much more dangerous off his back than Hardy..

Other than me just out right agreeing with you that GSP will come in and dominate Silva with wretling, I really don't know what you want me to say.. That's why I don't understand why you (and Newstead) freak the fuck out when ever this is brought up..

The problem is after 5 rounds GSP won, if the Sonnen/Silva fight had gone the distance we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

ow is this different than me saying that Silva will avoid, using his elusiveness and eventually catch GSP coming in??

When I say it, I'm riding Silva's dick etc..

When yall say it about GSP you are being intelligent unbiased fans..

Fucking ridiculous..

So the difference is Silva finished the fight while GSP couldn't??

Got it..

Well if he doesnt do anything to open silva up, what spots is he going to be picking? Thats the thing, silva will stay away untill you come after him so to force silva into the cage, you have to bull him into the cage, which means you have to get in his striking range.

And Jackson is good, but its hard for me to imagine a plan he can make to get at silva.

Its weird to say, but I dont think GSP has the skill set to get silva down the ways others have.

Yes, that was it.

no the point is, your comparing gsp/hardy (where GSP dominated bell-to-bell) to silva/sonnen (where sonnen dominated and got caught making a mistake)

The performances are completely different. Its apples to oranges dude.

He's has to be patient and take his shots at a double, and maybe mix it up with a bull rush or two, he certainly can't approch it the way he has other fights, because of Silvas striking, but you also have to account to Silva not letting go like he normally would for fear of being taken down.

Thats what im saying though... silva will never let go if he doesnt have to

and the way judges score fights, hed win by octagon control of some shit... and GSP is very aware of his self image and he will not stand in front of a guy and do nothing if he thinks he could lose especially if the crowd is livid.

Yeah but it proves that even though GSP is a good wrestler, he wasn't able to put Hardy away.. Hardy is no where near the level Silva is off his back.. The last time GSP finished someone was Serra 3 years ago.. (BJ Penn gassed and quit..)

GSP is great, but he is not a killer like Silva..

True, but GSP can afford to be boo'd, Silva really can't at this point, not that Silva would, or should care. That's why I just rushing in for a double or forcing him into the cage and working a single are his best bets, but like you said Silva doesn't wanna let go if he doesn't have to. Its why GSP has to close distance without striking and just shoot, and maybe the first 2 get stuffed, but eventually I think GSP should be able to get him down, now while doing that, he need to avoid counters and knees.

They have two completely differenent styles and approaches to fights. Did GSP need to finished Hardy to win? No. Hardy is tough and refused to tap where most others would have. Does he need to finished Silva to win? No, so you point doesn't really matter.

In to say Jon Jones new LHW champ @ 128.

He very well could be, unless Rua comes out with a blitzkrieg of brutal Muai Thai strikes.

again know what your talking about please...


Do you honestly think pro fighters are unbiased when giving their opinions? That shit if fucking political and theyre not gunna talk shit about their teammate or a friend.

Thats why frank mir is thought of as such a dick... hes unbiased and breaks fights down with out bias. and before you get yourself in a fit, throw out what he says about his own fights.

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you would have to think the advantage would go to Anderson (vs. GSP). that doesnt mean that you cant be pulling for GSP. sometimes, the underdog is just that. it seems to me that those of you who are analyzing GSP as having the advantage are doing so from an emotional place.

My favorite fighter is Rashad Evans. i'm a big-time mark for Rashad. i remember when he was going to face Chuck, i felt very uncomfortable leading up to that fight. Chuck had supposed superior striking (was possibly still regarded as the best striker in MMA), legendary takedown defense, and this fight happened before Rashad had actually come into his own as a contender. all i could say was that "i was nervous about the fight, but i'm pulling for Rashad."

i'm not knocking GSP at all. i'm not saying he can't win. but he's the underdog. accept it.

I never feel the need to log in here cause I don't usually post, but god damnit. I'm so pissed about how Belfort went out like a bitch.

Dude got kicked full in the face by probably the best fighter in the world. Let's see you get up.

silva will beat gsp. if/when GSP takes him down he will just slap on a body triangle and elbow the shit out of GSP until he is a bloody mess.

Apparently Rampage was offered the fight against Shogun and turned it down. Kinda odd, I know Rampage still has visions of knees and soccer kicks in his head of Rua, but Rua is coming off a long lay off, and if anyone can attest to ring rust it's Rampage. Just odd that he would turn it down.

Im guessing Rampage felt 6 weeks wasn't enough time to prepare. And for Jones it's gonna be like camp never ended.

i'd say jones deserves it more than rampage anyway.

This could definitely be the beginning of the Jon Jones era. He's an early betting favorite over Shogun, but at the same time I have a hard time discounting someone with the experience Shogun has.

Jon Jones vs. Rampage Jackson for the LHW belt one day would put a lot of asses in the seats though. I'm looking forward to the PPV.

Matt Hamill is fighting Phil Davis in Toronto. That fight should be a decent test for Davis and help determine if he's a LHW contender. LHW and lightweight are the most compelling divisions in the UFC right now.

Jones will take the title for sure.

I'm just now getting to watch the PPV, Silva has yet to disappoint and I were to bet on GSP vs Silva I would put my money on Silva. It seems like he has something figured out that no other fighter has tapped into, maybe it's Steve Segal ahaha, maybe he's just the worlds best warrior. Time will tell.

Rashad said he'd drop to middleweight or go up to heavyweight if Jones won the title and defended it successfully.

I think he'd get overwhelmed at heavyweight, but middleweight is a good spot for him if he has to leave LHW.

Most def catching that Jon Jones fight.

The kick was well-placed and well-timed and it's been documented that he's been working on it. I think he practices certain moves that can knock someone out with so he probably has an arsenal of moves for a specific moment. I think he is one of the few that can get away with this because almost everyone stays away instead of being aggressive and not giving him any time to plan or any room to breathe.

:eek::eek:

I'd like to see GSP/Silva, I love them both, but that will be a god awful boring fight. They will look at each other for 5 rounds and not engage.

I'd love to see Steven Seagal overcome his muffin top and thunder thighs and land a kick like that. I bet it's nothing but fatty grunts and flop sweating when he's on the mat teaching/training.

Live GSP press conference right now: http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player.../Live/24106337

But the point is that Anderson has proven he does not care one way or the other. He will happily dance for five rounds to pick up the victory.

So you are suggesting that GSP should just shoot well if Anderson doesn't respect GSPs hands at all it makes stuffing a shot easier also you are suggesting that GSP should shoot from distance which brings in Anderson kneeing his face off.

GSP needs to set his takedowns with strikes. That is the way he fights. I think his hands are tidy enough to be able to do it but it means getting within striking distance of one of the best strikers in MMA history.

pete cash is a smart man

I just find the idea of GSP spamming shot after shot silly. Sonnen had to take a few solid strikes to close the distance he also made Anderson respect his striking.

Sonnen is also a lot bigger than GSP.

No doubt GSP can beat Silva but GSP will have to take a strike or two if he wants to get Anderson down. If he just shoots from a distance then Silva will probably just dance away and try and win a five round dance with his reach advantage. Silva may not have great TDD but he is very very fast.

lol what

yeah i just wanna see a vid :'(

Anderson is just a lovable funny troll. He did that exact same kick in his fight with Dan Henderson.

That video is hilarious..

lol The Rogers Centre (The Skydome) is a sell out.

I know, I tried to get tickets yesterday.