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parkmania 02-28-2011 10:38 PM

He said our town! That's where we live!

Hanso Amore 02-28-2011 10:38 PM

Love the Rock

Fignuts 02-28-2011 10:39 PM

ahahaha yabba dabba bitch

ClockShot 02-28-2011 10:40 PM

If that ain't a declaration of war on Cena, I don't know what is.

Cool King 02-28-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3447780)
ahahaha yabba dabba bitch


jkman61494 02-28-2011 10:41 PM

You know, at this point why even involve The Miz?

I mean I love The Rock... LOVE him. Yabba Dabba Bitch? Awesome! But why put The Miz in the middle of what could be a Main Event match at WrestleMania? It's a real waste.

You could have had a Miz/Morrison WrestleMania feud, and let two youngens get the rub with the WWE Title on the line. Rock promos aside, the booking here is just HORRID!

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 10:41 PM

WOW Rock just saved Raw and he wasn't even there in person

Emperor Smeat 02-28-2011 10:42 PM

:D Rock

also loved the reaction of the crowd to the yabba line since some were cheering and laughing and some were shocked at him saying that.

dablackguy 02-28-2011 10:43 PM

What Rock said: I opened the door for you and what did you do....
What Rock should have said: I opened the door and you made that pile of crap that was 12 rounds

Nark Order 02-28-2011 10:44 PM

HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT ME NOT BEING AROUND! NOW HERE'S A PROMO VIA SATELLITE FROM MY HOUSE!

FearedSanctity 02-28-2011 10:45 PM

Yeah, dunno if it was by choice or not, but Rock should've gotten more personal. Rock has plenty of Cena's projects he could easily rip into

Fignuts 02-28-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkman61494 (Post 3447783)
You know, at this point why even involve The Miz?

I mean I love The Rock... LOVE him. Yabba Dabba Bitch? Awesome! But why put The Miz in the middle of what could be a Main Event match at WrestleMania? It's a real waste.

You could have had a Miz/Morrison WrestleMania feud, and let two youngens get the rub with the WWE Title on the line. Rock promos aside, the booking here is just HORRID!

I'm pretty sure it's because Rock doesn't want to wrestle, not because they didn't think about it.

parkmania 02-28-2011 10:45 PM

So, Taker is no longer "The Deadman" - he's "The Last Outlaw".




LAME!

Fignuts 02-28-2011 10:46 PM

lol Buffalo can't even get hbk live.

Surprised HHH even showed up.

loopydate 02-28-2011 10:46 PM

So do you think Cena is dizzy from watching Rock promo circles around him? I mean, he must have done at least 6 or 7 laps.

ClockShot 02-28-2011 10:47 PM

Random live crowd shot.

Fignuts 02-28-2011 10:47 PM

I think it would be awesome if hbk cost hhh the match, and they both had their last match against eachother.

Cool King 02-28-2011 10:48 PM

So I'm guessing WrestleMania X-Seven never happened then?

Fignuts 02-28-2011 10:48 PM

fuck is this?

DaVe 02-28-2011 10:49 PM

lol Buffalo can't even get hbk live.

Surprised HHH even showed up.


lol

jkman61494 02-28-2011 10:49 PM

Hey NICE!

So now we can have The Miz who is getting buried, to further bury Daniel Bryan. Awesome to see MORE great booking.

Your US Title champion has no feud and is a jobber.

Your Intercontinential champion has no feud and is a jobber.

Great booking WWE.

Fignuts 02-28-2011 10:49 PM

think I heard like 3 people booing, and the rest were like "who fuck was that guy?"

Hanso Amore 02-28-2011 10:49 PM

Buffalo cant even get a home town showing of Beth Phoenix.

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 10:49 PM

Wow that made no sense.

ClockShot 02-28-2011 10:50 PM

So instead of what could have been a quick yet good match with Dan The Man, Miz is just blowing off some steam just to kill time.

Come on.

Skippord 02-28-2011 10:51 PM

was hoping John Morrison would be on this Raw at some point

unless he was and I missed it, have been fading in and out

Evil Vito 02-28-2011 10:51 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Rock's promo and the Cole/Lawler segment have been the ONLY bright spots of this show.</font>

jkman61494 02-28-2011 10:52 PM

I'm going to go on a post Raw bitching. But The WWE brought me back in as a pretty passionate fan in the past 18 months or so bringing up a host of new WWE Superstars. They are now starting to lose me because of their apparent necessity to bury almost every one of them now to the point that every push they had is evaporating.

I'm not even a Daniel Bryan fan, but what they did there was just absolutely ridiculous

Jura 02-28-2011 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dablackguy (Post 3447786)
What Rock said: I opened the door for you and what did you do....
What Rock should have said: I opened the door and you made that pile of crap that was 12 rounds

He already did something like that at the Hall of Fame.

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 10:55 PM

So on Raw so far:

HHH Buries Shamus
Evan Bourne Buries Shamus further
Cena Buries The Miz
Cena and Cole buries A-Rye
Orton Buries 1/4 of Nexus
Rock Buries Cena (but in a good way here)
Miz buries Daniel Bryan

What a fucking weird Raw

Evil Vito 02-28-2011 10:56 PM

<font color=goldenrod>The fans there tonight have gotten a big fuck you. After the main event there will have been about 20 minutes of wrestling total on a 2 hour show. And that's with TWO pre-recorded promos.

What a rip off. They better not pull this shit on April 11th when I go to Raw in Bridgeport.</font>

Providence Peep 02-28-2011 10:57 PM

:wtf: @ Cole saying he was "unsettled" by Miz's attack on Daniel Bryan?

Fignuts 02-28-2011 10:57 PM

I kind of don't want to watch but miz on commentary will hold me over til this is over.

Skippord 02-28-2011 10:58 PM

why does Buffalo get a Raw and Denver hasn't for like 4 years?

Cool King 02-28-2011 10:58 PM

I had a feeling The Miz was "tweeting".

From The Miz's Twitter: "@john cena needs a tan.". lol

Fignuts 02-28-2011 10:59 PM

hahahaha Miz is brilliant.

Providence Peep 02-28-2011 10:59 PM

If the match is no DQ, who's the third man in the ring?

jkman61494 02-28-2011 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providence Peep (Post 3447817)
:wtf: @ Cole saying he was "unsettled" by Miz's attack on Daniel Bryan?

They can't even book THIS right now.

You have Cole who just had Lawler attacked by Jack Swagger. Cole who wants Miz's babies, and HATES Bryan but then gets compassionate.


And there's Miz interfering already. Glad to see that it took all of 2 minutes to see their agreement get broken up. MORE great booking.


Did they re-hire the guys they let go in the fall?

Fignuts 02-28-2011 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 3447819)
why does Buffalo get a Raw and Denver hasn't for like 4 years?

Probably is more popular in Buffalo.

jkman61494 02-28-2011 11:00 PM

Oh, and let's not even TRY to make Alex Riley look competitive here either.

And why in the hell is Riley having to crawl to the door when he just hit Cena with a phone? This stuff is absolutely mind boggling right now.

Strike Force 02-28-2011 11:00 PM

I really wish j-mo wud have gotten some time tonite. Guy is pushed like crazy recently and you dont even give him a squash match to get him some exposure, simply unreal

ClockShot 02-28-2011 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 3447819)
why does Buffalo get a Raw and Denver hasn't for like 4 years?

You forgot about the Nuggets debacle?

Shame on you.

Providence Peep 02-28-2011 11:01 PM

The Attitude Era is gone, but now we have the Social Networking Era. Cena hit with an iPhone! :lol:

Skippord 02-28-2011 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3447829)
You forgot about the Nuggets debacle?

Shame on you.

oh yeah, blocked that out of my mind

jkman61494 02-28-2011 11:03 PM

They just took a commercial at 11:02? HUH?!

ClockShot 02-28-2011 11:03 PM

Wow, they're doing overrun tonight.

Providence Peep 02-28-2011 11:03 PM

So, apparently Riley's "john" (toilet) joke was off the cuff?

Fignuts 02-28-2011 11:03 PM

Umm Alex shouldn't look that competitive here. It's Cena, and he is Alex Riley.

Fignuts 02-28-2011 11:04 PM

What Nuggets debacle?

Cool King 02-28-2011 11:04 PM

I went to The Miz's Twitter just after he took the photo of Cena and my internet crashed, so I've missed most of the match.

Tb1 02-28-2011 11:04 PM

After like, 10 years, Cena still can't take a proper bump. Fantastic

ClockShot 02-28-2011 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3447837)
What Nuggets debacle?

About a year or 2 ago, Denver Nuggets made the NBA playoffs and started on monday night at home. That same night, WWE had the arena. A bit of back and forth went down, but NBA won. Vince either to Had to move the show to a smaller venue in Denver, or to another available arena.

Fignuts 02-28-2011 11:08 PM

Oh yeah.

FearedSanctity 02-28-2011 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3447841)
About a year or 2 ago, Denver Nuggets made the NBA playoffs and started on monday night at home. That same night, WWE had the arena. A bit of back and forth went down, but NBA won. Vince either to Had to move the show to a smaller venue in Denver, or to another available arena.

And of course, he moved it to LA, who Denver was playing

Hanso Amore 02-28-2011 11:11 PM

And then the Main Event was a 5 on 5 match with lakers and Nuggets jerseys. Lakers won.

Kennedy dropped Orton on his head and got fired the next day.

MoFo 02-28-2011 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3447841)
About a year or 2 ago, Denver Nuggets made the NBA playoffs and started on monday night at home. That same night, WWE had the arena. A bit of back and forth went down, but NBA won. Vince either to Had to move the show to a smaller venue in Denver, or to another available arena.


So they did some sort of 'inside joke' by having a 10man tag match wearing Lakers & Nuggets jerseys.

Skippord 02-28-2011 11:11 PM

and then spent like half of that show mocking the Nuggets

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 11:11 PM

Add Riley to the buried list.

Skippord 02-28-2011 11:12 PM

some nice story telling, team

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 11:14 PM

Worst Raw in ages

CSL 02-28-2011 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily (Post 3447815)
So on Raw so far:

HHH Buries Shamus
Evan Bourne Buries Shamus further
Cena Buries The Miz
Cena and Cole buries A-Rye
Orton Buries 1/4 of Nexus
Rock Buries Cena (but in a good way here)
Miz buries Daniel Bryan

What a fucking weird Raw

Not watched RAW but I'm guessing this is a ridiculous overreaction.

CSL 02-28-2011 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily (Post 3447853)
Worst Raw in ages

Ditto this one.

loopydate 02-28-2011 11:17 PM

Nope. Pretty spot on, actually. Atrocious RAW.

CSL 02-28-2011 11:18 PM

That bad? Really?

Evil Vito 02-28-2011 11:19 PM

<font color=goldenrod>This was just an abysmally bad Raw. I don't even have any interest in Miz/Cena since Miz feels like an afterthought and Cena/Rock is the main story. Miz has next to no chance of winning.

With 4 weeks to go, I'm currently leaning towards not buying it. Hope they get their shit together next week.

God I really wish I hadn't dropped $80 on Raw seats. If I get 100 minutes of promos/breaks with 20 minutes of wrestling I'm gonna flip. Yeah there are Superstars matches too but big whoop.</font>

loopydate 02-28-2011 11:20 PM

Yeah, I'm going to Mania and I'm not that excited about Mania after tonight. I know it will still be a great show because it's Mania, but WWE really showed me nothing tonight to get excited about other than The Rock. Minor mark-out moment for the return of Evan Bourne and I'm excited to see Sin Cara.

That's it.

Awful Raw.

Mr. Pierre 02-28-2011 11:22 PM

I enjoyed the first hour, but the 2nd hour was bad.

HHH/Taker, Lawler/Cole, and Orton/Punk got some nice build..meanwhille Miz/Cena's build tonight was pretty horrendous.

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3447860)
That bad? Really?

Yup there was 20 minutes total of wrestling (none of it very entertaining at that)

A snooze inducing HHH promo, it had zero passion.

An awful awful awful Cena promo that basically made Miz out to look like a dipshit

The highlights were King/Cole and an amazing Rock promo (A promo that wasn't even in ring). That's it about 30 minutes of entertainment.

It was just surreal a Raw on the RTWM being used to bury so much talent

Evil Vito 02-28-2011 11:24 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Just gotta keep telling myself that April 11th is AFTER Mania so there should actually be a decent amount of wrestling. I have yet to see a bad show live so I'm hoping that trend continues. If it's anything like tonight in terms of amount of wrestling I'll probably second guess ever going to a TV show again.</font>

Providence Peep 02-28-2011 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3447862)
<font color=goldenrod>God I really wish I hadn't dropped $80 on Raw seats. If I get 100 minutes of promos/breaks with 20 minutes of wrestling I'm gonna flip. Yeah there are Superstars matches too but big whoop.</font>

Nah, don't feel bad, Vito. Just try to have a good time. I spent $250 on two, tenth row tix for RAW in Providence a few weeks ago. I got them from a ticket agent.

Evil Vito 02-28-2011 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Providence Peep (Post 3447872)
Nah, don't feel bad, Vito. Just try to have a good time. I spent $250 on two, tenth row tix for RAW in Providence a few weeks ago. I got them from a ticket agent.

<font color=goldenrod>I'm going to Raw solo for the first time because nobody I usually go with can make it. Hence it's even more important to have a good show.</font> :o

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 11:28 PM

And when I saw awful Cena promo I mean so awful he actually killed the crowd

I'd be so pissed if I paid to see that live, their best moment was spent staring at the titan tron

Fignuts 02-28-2011 11:29 PM

I don't get what everyone is so mad about with miz.

So Cena made him look like a dipshit. His character IS a dipshit. He's a slimey weasel who cheats to win, and doesn't fight like a man.

This isn't ROH. There is no code of honor.

Cool King 02-28-2011 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily (Post 3447815)
So on Raw so far:

HHH Buries Shamus
Evan Bourne Buries Shamus further
Cena Buries The Miz
Cena and Cole buries A-Rye
Orton Buries 1/4 of Nexus
Rock Buries Cena (but in a good way here)
Miz buries Daniel Bryan

What a fucking weird Raw

Yeah, when you put it like that, it was a pretty bad Raw. Even though it's not long finished, all I can mostly remember from Raw is talking.

That's it. :-\

RawRocks 02-28-2011 11:36 PM

This Raw went down the tubes as soon Michael Cole came back on.

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3447877)
I don't get what everyone is so mad about with miz.

So Cena made him look like a dipshit. His character IS a dipshit. He's a slimey weasel who cheats to win, and doesn't fight like a man.

This isn't ROH. There is no code of honor.

It's not about honor it';s about not booking your champ as a total joke going into the biggest show of the year.

Miz might be slimy and a cheater but he's trying to be a serious heel, Cena comes in puts his arm around him, calls him gay, etc... it just treats Miz like a total joke.

Fignuts 02-28-2011 11:40 PM

Aaaaaaaand then miz delivers a skull crushing finale to cena to end the show for the second week in a row.

That kind of negates any gay jokes cena makes, at least in my eyes.

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3447893)
Aaaaaaaand then miz delivers a skull crushing finale to cena to end the show for the second week in a row.

That kind of negates any gay jokes cena makes, at least in my eyes.

It helps with the sting, I don't think it negates.

jkman61494 02-28-2011 11:43 PM

So, can anyone give me a logical explanation as to why the WWE abandoned the past 18 months of growth they tried to give their roster? Is it due to their Q4 earnings? Because what they've done thus far in 2011 is god awful, something you'd see inferior organizations like WCW would do.

They bring in an entire new crop of wrestlers that they put their time and money into making us believe could compete with the John Cena's and Undertaker's of the world. And they did a pretty darn good job at it.

Now? They've managed to destroy almost all of it and I just cannot understand why. And it's a shame because I'm a fan they lost due to having the same four or five main events for what seemed like five or six years. They brought me in with new refreshing characters, but now I don't even see a point to watch when all they are doing is sending them down to WWE Superstars.

Raw:

The Good:

The Miz: Maybe the ONLY success story on the show now which is really sad considering the landscape of the show a few months ago.

John Morrison: I guess it's considered in the "good" category, but now he's got no one to feud with after being given a whopping ONE WEEK run as #1 contender.

The Bad:

Sheamus: He's gone from a WWE Champion, to a perennial contender winning King of the Ring to an absolute jobber. He was over as a credible heel, but it will take months of image repair to what they've done to him even in the past two weeks.

Daniel Bryan: Has never even been given a chance to shine. Has held the US Title since the fall but has never been given anyone to feud with. Had one good match against the Miz that just went down the drain being jumped for no reason tonight. Holds a title with no feud for WM.

Ted DiBiase: Went from a major member of a group to being maybe the biggest jobber on Raw, losing a feud to Goldust.

Nexus: Took the hottest group and feud of 2010, and pissed it all away within two weeks and now is an absolute mess and is dragging their top heel in CM Punk along with it.

The Hart Foundation: They were maybe the only over tag team in the WWE and decided to break it up. And they managed to make BOTH guys Marty Jannety as DH Smith is off TV and Tyson Kidd had a grand two week heel run.

Smackdown:

The good:

Alberto Del Rio: They seem to be in love with ADR and I can't see him losing to Edge here.

Cody Rhodes: He looked like the odd man out after WrestleMania last year, but now he's done really well with his opportunity.

Dolph Ziggler: The guy got a good push and is being paired with a heel machine in Vickie.

The Bad:

Wade Barrett: Part of the Nexus debacle. The guy was maybe the top heel in the WWE and they've absolutely destroyed his push. He's now at best going to have a meaningless match with the Big Show.

Drew McIntyre: Pushed to the moon at first, was pretty over and showed potential. He's now stuck in some crummy feud with Kelly Kelly in the middle of it.

Jack Swagger: From #1 contender for the WWE Title, to a champion, to being Michael Cole's side kick in one year.

Kofi Kingston: The crowd loves him and his MSG moment with Orton got one of the loudest pops in the WWE in maybe the past five years (pales in comparison to say Rock a few weeks ago but still.) Today, he's an IC champion but is now nothing more than a jobber, and also has no one to feud with. On a side note, you gotta love the fact that neither mid-card champion has had ANY feuds in 2010.

Ezekiel Jackson: He kicked some ass a few months back, disappears, is repackaged to be some kind of monster, then becomes the muscle of a group that never wrestles.



With a youth movement going on, this was an opportunity to really show case them ESPECIALLY when you consider the fact you got HHH, Undertaker, Austin and the Rock all being involved in some fashion. Instead the vast majority is now completely buried.

We might as well just let Booker T and Diesel run all over then. Everyone else is now.

Fignuts 02-28-2011 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily (Post 3447894)
It helps with the sting, I don't think it negates.

Actions speak louder than words, and Miz has gotten the better of Cena two weeks in a row now. As far as I'm concerned, Miz looks stronger now, than he's ever been.

DaBrasko 02-28-2011 11:49 PM

I'm surprised that no one mentioned that HHH basically buried the whole locker room saying here were "no real challenges in the back"

Lock Jaw 02-28-2011 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily (Post 3447815)
So on Raw so far:

HHH Buries Shamus
Evan Bourne Buries Shamus further
Cena Buries The Miz
Cena and Cole buries A-Rye
Orton Buries 1/4 of Nexus
Rock Buries Cena (but in a good way here)
Miz buries Daniel Bryan

What a fucking weird Raw

HHH actually pretty much buried the entire RAW and Smackdown roster. Saying that there were no challenges for him except Undertaker, and vice versa. VINTAGE Triple H!

Pretty incensed about the burying of Sheamus. Don't care about A-Ri or Daniel Bryan being buried.

I wonder though... is this it for NXT Season 2?! All remnants are gone!

Lock Jaw 02-28-2011 11:51 PM

Dammit DaBrasko, I was getting to that.

jkman61494 02-28-2011 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3447862)
This was just an abysmally bad Raw. I don't even have any interest in Miz/Cena since Miz feels like an afterthought and Cena/Rock is the main story. Miz has next to no chance of winning.

With 4 weeks to go, I'm currently leaning towards not buying it. Hope they get their shit together next week.
.

I can't agree more. They've booked all of this absolutely horribly.

They're managing to book Miz as a god awful champion (factor in he almost lost to a 63-year-old). He's being made to look inferior to Cena, and in turn Cena is looking like an absolute dope with The Rock.

John Cena is supposed to have a title match, but the entire feud is focusing on he and The Rock. The Miz meanwhile goes and attacks Daniel Bryan, who after being booked so horribly has little credibility to then look like he's on equal footing.


On paper, this was a good concept. But the execution of it, is awful.

MoFo 02-28-2011 11:52 PM

Needed more Rock, and less everybody else.

Lock Jaw 02-28-2011 11:53 PM

I actually liked how they booked Miz tonight. I think he should definitely take pics and tweet them mid-match as a "thing". Kind of like how Rock used to get on headset and talk, but FOR THE AGE OF SOCIAL NETWORKING!

DaBrasko 02-28-2011 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3447907)
Dammit DaBrasko, I was getting to that.

Sorry :(

jkman61494 02-28-2011 11:56 PM

Does anyone with ANY sort of knowledge have an explanation for their decision to pretty much kill the youth movement?

Were there new writers brought in? Any let go?

Were their earnings THAT bad?

I just don't understand who they can just completely destroy almost every wrestler they have built up since 2009.

Lara Emily 02-28-2011 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3447906)
HHH actually pretty much buried the entire RAW and Smackdown roster. Saying that there were no challenges for him except Undertaker, and vice versa. VINTAGE Triple H!

Pretty incensed about the burying of Sheamus. Don't care about A-Ri or Daniel Bryan being buried.

I wonder though... is this it for NXT Season 2?! All remnants are gone!

Yeah totally forgot that. Loved HHH just coming out and being like let's face it everyone back there sucks LOL

It was an awful HHH promo, and an even worse Cena promo, I stll can't believe how quiet the crowd got, it died,

jkman61494 03-01-2011 12:01 AM

I would have found what he said upsetting on most nights, but when you consider the destruction of almost every wrestler out there with less than seven years in the business, it seems tame.

I can excuse it only because HHH and Taker are on a different level than anyone else on that roster now. To then destroy Sheamus 30 seconds later, and put away their feud like that? Inexcusable.

How bad is it for Sheamus? Remember when they had Santino get a fluke win over him and it was booked like it was some sort of miracle? At this point, Sheamus is probably lower on the totem poll than him at this point.

Juan 03-01-2011 12:02 AM

you guys crack me up.
\
There are like 5 weeks left until Mania, I'm pretty sure Miz will get the upper hand on Cena eventually.

Seems like some of you wont be happy until Cena is only wrestling dark matches and jobbing on Superstars.

He's the freaking face of the company going into the biggest event of the year, he's gonna win a match or two.

Lara Emily 03-01-2011 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3447915)
I actually liked how they booked Miz tonight. I think he should definitely take pics and tweet them mid-match as a "thing". Kind of like how Rock used to get on headset and talk, but FOR THE AGE OF SOCIAL NETWORKING!

They definitely did some things right later with The Miz. I loved the picture taking and the actual tweeting

Lara Emily 03-01-2011 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3447942)
you guys crack me up.
\
There are like 5 weeks left until Mania, I'm pretty sure Miz will get the upper hand on Cena eventually.

Seems like some of you wont be happy until Cena is only wrestling dark matches and jobbing on Superstars.

He's the freaking face of the company going into the biggest event of the year, he's gonna win a match or two.

I have no problem with him winning, wtf. It was his promo that was the problem, it was just really bad.

thedamndest 03-01-2011 12:08 AM

You complain about young guys not getting over and then you complain that Evan Bourne won.

Lara Emily 03-01-2011 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 3447956)
You complain about young guys not getting over and then you complain that Evan Bourne won.

Him squashing Shamus was kinda silly

DaBrasko 03-01-2011 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkman61494 (Post 3447940)
I would have found what he said upsetting on most nights, but when you consider the destruction of almost every wrestler out there with less than seven years in the business, it seems tame.

I can excuse it only because HHH and Taker are on a different level than anyone else on that roster now. To then destroy Sheamus 30 seconds later, and put away their feud like that? Inexcusable.

How bad is it for Sheamus? Remember when they had Santino get a fluke win over him and it was booked like it was some sort of miracle? At this point, Sheamus is probably lower on the totem poll than him at this point.

I don't know. I think basically him saying there isn't anyone worth a damn in the back and him killing Shemus in 30 seconds both were bad. I would rather have HHH and Shemus not interact at all if Undertake and HHH is supposed to be HHH's last match. Killing Shemus that fast accomplished nothing. All I got from that segment was Shemus just injuring him was a fluke.

thedamndest 03-01-2011 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Emily (Post 3447958)
Him squashing Shamus was kinda silly

How was it silly? Sheamus was selling getting pedigreed through a table.

You weren't one of the people that complained when Cena no sold an RKO on the ground, were you?

Evil Vito 03-01-2011 12:15 AM

<font color=goldenrod>It was one burial right after another. I find myself echoing The Miz' sentiments. Really? Really? REALLY?

Did HHH REALLY have to basically say the entire roster sucks except for him and Taker?

Did Sheamus REALLY have to get his ass demolished without even getting to at least cut a promo and land a few punches?

Did Evan Bourne's return REALLY have to come against a guy who was already beat up and thus he gains nothing from it when there are plenty of low card heels (why hello there Ted DiBiase, William Regal, Zack Ryder, Tyson Kidd, and Primo) that could have jobbed and make the win look legitimate?

Did the United States champion REALLY have to be the one to get jumped by The Miz and again put up no offense when there were no shortage of jobber faces (why hello there Santino Marella, Vladimir Kozlov, Darren Young, Yoshi Tatsu, and David Hart Smith) to fill the role?

Just a fucking stupid night of booking. Even if they took the same general route it could have just been executed in such a way where so many guys didn't look stupid when they didn't have to.</font>

Fignuts 03-01-2011 12:16 AM

Cena's promo was bad, but if anything, it made miz look good, given that their promos were back to back and miz's were far better. Cena made himself look stupid and no one else, really.

Also, I have no problem with Triple A's comments, because what he said was basically true. What would beating John Cena and Orton accomplish? Sure they would be challenging matches, but he's already achieved victory. I think people just misinterpreted that. It's not that he was burying the locker room, he was saying he has already met the challenges that the rest of the locker room has to offer. Which he has.

Anyway, it was all said to add to the epic atmosphere of the match.

It wasn't a very entertaining raw, but I think people are overreacting a tad, to all this supposed "burying" going on.

OH GOD DANIEL BRYAN WAS ATTACKED FROM BEHIND BY THE WORLD CHAMPION! HIS CAREER IS OVER!

jkman61494 03-01-2011 12:18 AM

The other thing I took from tonight was how desperately Cena needs an image makeover.

You have the Rock in a nice simple black shirt which is one thing. You then have Miz and Riley looking like a million bucks. And Cena is out there in his stale attire looking like a 12 year old punk kid in purple.

He just looked really lame to me tonight. And how long has he had that stupid purple shirt for. Would it kill them to market something new?


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