Finished the 1st book last night and started on the 2nd. Good stuff.

Already about to finish the 3rd book. This book was fucking craaaazy. Can't even count the number of times I laughed out loud at something that happened/was said. Toward the end I was fucking glued to it. So happy when certain things happened, and legit surprised at certain things.

Fantastic book. Like 25 pages away from finishing it I think, and I already picked up the next one.

So

I think there's a book thread

I remembered. But nobody used it. :( And this one was still on the front page.

5 books are currently out, 2 more are planned to 'finish' the series.

Damn, just bought the first three. I have like 3670 pages to go now. Gonna take me like 5 months.

Has taken me like 3 days to get thru 180 pages of the first one.

I've just finished 'A Feast for Crows' not as good as Storm of Swords in that not as much happens but I still cannot see an ending, I want this fictional world to be real and neverending.

Buzzkill, Theres something coming up soon that you will like about Varys. He's as slick as Littlefinger in some ways.

I'm like 80 pages from finishing A Feast for Crows. Definitely not as good as the previous book, but I'm looking forward to the next to see what happens from the other perspectives.

Just got a hardback copy of Dance with dragons, it's heavy as a Narcissus, I'll be able to legit do a 'gunshow' by the time I've finished this.

Already really like the beginning of Dance. Also got the hardback, and wish the store had had hardbacks of all the rest so I'd have the whole collection in hardback. It is pretty nice.

I have finished the season, and here I am. Just popping in to say :wave:

Season 2 casting: http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/cable/h...season-2/86984

Spoilers obviously

Notable omissions...

I really don't understand why they changed a couple of the characters. Even just minor things like a name.

Doesn't make sense to me.

If Alton Lannister takes the role of Cleos Frey, that would make sense

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Slight spoilers for Season 2 (not really tho)

Hearing them talk about the difficulties of creating so many new spaces makes the decision to cut out Riverrun more understandable...considering they need to build sets for

omgomgomgomg i want.

Also, I finished the current books. It is both awesome, and terrible that I have to wait about 7 years now to see this show/series finished. It was said by Martin that the 3rd book would likely be split into 2 seasons.

Also looks like...

Yeah I can't imagine them fitting all of Book 3 into a season...it would just be too much omfg packed into 10 episodes

Did DWD make up for the slog of AFfC?

Yes, I really liked it. Not that I didn't like AFfC, as it introduced a lot of new perspectives and such. It was just slow, and it wasn't focused on the characters I wanted to hear about for the most part. DWD was a whole lot of what I wanted to read about.

That is great news

Yeah, DWD was pretty tremendous. In some of the books certain characters have a lot of chapters but they still feel kind of stagnant, but in DWD I thought that every chapter was actually moving the story forward in a significant way.

The next book better not take as long to come out as DWD did though.

Just bought me a new T-Shirt.


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Sahara Knite was an extra in this. She used to escort and pisses on people.

Nice, didn't know you were into it.

Book 3 is incredible. Didn't know the bluray was out already.

Why won't she? :'( It's really a fantastic series.

Just started watching this show. Loving it so far.

Looking forward to this coming back next week.

Kinda forgotten some bits from season 1. Might have to rewatch if I get the chance, or maybe just hope my memory will be refreshed while watching.

Think I'm gonna go buy the blu ray tomorrow. Don't really know all that much about the show but I've heard good things and at the bargain price of £25.50 for the HD discs, who can argue?

Where's that from? Might pick them up myself.

In the time between the two seasons I read all 5 books and am an ardent fan now. Just wish I didn't have to wait another 2-3 years for the next book :'(

£30 at Morrisons. But I work there and it'a 15% discount day tomorrow.

you mean 5-7 years by the way

and lets be honest, GRRM will probably be dead before it ever gets released.

lol was actually thinking about that the other day. Guy is so heavy that it wouldn't surprise me if he keeled over of a heart attack or something before this ever gets finished. Dunno, now that the series is this popular, 3ish years may not be such a stretch. He may want to capitalize on it now, because... y'know.. money. Also, it will be about 7 years from now for all of the show to be done, assuming they do book 3 in 2 seasons as I've read they will. So, I would think he will probably plan to have the last book done for a tandem release when the final season of the show airs.

Well he did confide the story endings as he saw it to the producers and directors apparently JUST IN CASE. But he does not want anyone to write and finish the book series if he dies. Faggot.

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Fucking pumped for this season, especially with Spartacus done with its season.

Yea now that Spartacus is done with ive started watching Season of GOT.

Ive started on the first book but can someone tell me if the first book is the first season? or is the first season like half the first book? or a third?

The first season is the first book entirely. Or what they could fit in anyway; they do a valiant job of it regardless.

Or you could just, you know, stream it :shifty:

Was great to see it back. Although I really had no idea what was going on with the new characters (the Baratheons?), but I'm sure all the blanks will be filled in.

Read the books, Baird.

They each think they have the right to the throne. Stannis is the true heir (dude with the red priestess) and Renly is the youngest who we saw last season (who had the gay affair)

Episode 2 leaked btw...

where?

Nah I'm not going to read them until I've seen it on TV. I don't want to know what's coming.

Any torrent site on earth

I can't use torrents with my university net :'(

Thanks for the info about it being out though, will look for it on Rapidshare or something.

Well nevermind, got a stream.

After watching the second ep, it's pretty clear that they are gonna stray pretty far from the books to format it more like a TV show than the first season. In Season 1 they definitely kept that novel-esque feel to it, but I think the story is too massive in the second book to really take the same approach and fit it into 10 episodes (they would need at least 15 episodes to come close to doing the book justice).

Not that this is necessarily a bad thing...TV is it's own medium after all. And for the most part I like some of the stuff they've added in.

Ya I agree, I think it is a good direction they are taking as well.

I just buckled and watched the first season. I loved the first book and as strange as it may sound I didn't want the show to ruin my conceptions of the characters. They did a solid job though. Anyways...

Perhaps I didn't read closely enough or it was just thrown in, I never picked up on the fact while reading the first novel that Renly was gay or that the Knight of Flowers was gay.

They hint at it pretty strongly, especially in the second book. Stuff like the Rainbow Guard and how he is always dressed in the nicest clothes and would rather go shopping than fight etc

You are not missing anything. That is what happened.

They are doing some stuff out of order though in the show. In the books, they escaped the first assault on the group. Fire happened. Arya gives the axe to the criminals in the cage. Gendry, Arya, Hot Pie (fat kid) and Lommy (the kid who got stabbed in the throat), escape. Lommy's leg was injured like in the show, and slows them down a bit. In the books, Gendry doesn't confront Arya about being a girl until this point, while they're out on watch one day. But eventually, they are captured by soldiers under the command of Gregor Clegane (The Mountain). In the books, it is at this point that Raff the Sweetling stabs Lommy in the throat with a spear after finding that they'll have to carry him as he can't walk.

I believe the guy in charge of the group that attacked them was Ser Amory Lorch, a knight who is also a bannerman of House Lannister.

So basically, they just combined the two events. Not a big deal, as this stuff all happened pretty close to each other. In the books there was just a bit of character development between the two events. But yeah, that bit with the helmet and Lommy didn't happen in the books IIRC, so it was added to give closure to the situation I think.

A Clash of Kings is longer than the first book isn't it? Bound to have to try to condense things down a little.

I can't wait to see how Harrenhal looks.

Ya. Figured they would. However, I'm disappointed they didn't just add more episodes. Trying to cram a longer book into the same amount of episodes is just :(

Still, have read they will split book 3 into 2 seasons which is a big :D because if they had done that in 1 season of 10 episodes I might have not even watched.

You'll see next episode prolly. Don't want to ruin anything as I already know.

One of the few times they really touch on 'magic' in the series. All usually involving R'hllor, the 'lord of light'.

Read some review that was complaining about how many new characters we're introduced to suddenly, and yeah there are a lot of new ones, but I love a lot of them.

Brienne of Tarth is a pretty good character. Davos the Onion Knight is a great character too. Really enjoyed his parts in the books.

God I love Tyrion so much.

Joffrey is a little cunt!

Kinda bummed they didn't use more subtlety with the shadow creature. Thought they could have made it crazy/scary without making it look ridiculous.

To be fair I thought they would go like the book and reveal it looked like Stannis. They still might, but I think they will skip over the actual murder scene.

Brienne was cast very well in my opinion. I can totally see her playing Brienne The Beauty.

Also Harrenhal did not disappoint :y:

As someone who hasn't read the books I'll agree that there does seem to be a lot of new characters coming in thick and fast, a lot of whom seem to look pretty similar and whose names are mentioned once in passing and then never again. I can probably only name about 40% of the cast, if that.

I'm still enjoying the shit out of it, but there are times when I don't really have a clue what's going on and I can see a lot of people turning off this season. Then again it could just be me not really paying much attention. Everywhere I read though it almost seems as though you need to have read the books to fully comprehend what's going on.

They should probably just have the entire series centered around Bronn.

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Finally caught up on the whole series. Love it but, like Iginfest say, not entirely sure I get all of it.

Ask away, and I will be glad to explain anything I can that you don't understand, without giving spoilers.

Main thing about this season is just the amount of characters that get added to it. With everyone splitting up, there's just so many things going on around the world.

Also not enough of Daenerys getting banged from behind.

Bronn 'Theres no cure for being a cunt' excellent.

Finally started reading the first book. Feels like I know a lot more about the historical events behind Westeros as a result. :y:

I'm just confused as to where each group is traveling to and why.

Need more of that slave bird teaching her how to fuck.

Let me try:

1) Rob Stark and his northerners are heading down south to beat the lannisters and depose of Joffrey as King. He has also gained support from the Freys and the Tullys making him King in the North and King of the Trident.

2) Renly Baratheon has the stormlords and highgarden in support for his quest to be King, pretty much moving slowly to gather more men and also because Renly is a prick and needs entertainment each day

3) Stannis Baratheon has claim over Renly (being the elder brother) if Joffrey is indeed the incestuous son of Jaime and Cersei but he is a hard, bitter man with no sense of politics and could not win over the supporters of Renly. He wants manpower before marching to King's Landing

4) Daenerys and her Khos are in the continent of Essos, travelling away from the Dothraki Sea to escape from the other new Khals, and also to survive and gain support to get back to Westeros and reclaim her throne

5) The Greyjoys are using the fact that the north is more or less depleted of warriors to capture Moat Cailin and cut off Rob's army from the north. Then they can slowly capture other castles in the north. But Theon has more ambitious plans and wants to take over
6) Yonnen is taking deserters, criminals, bastards and Arya Stark to the Wall up North to make them part of the Night's Watch and deliver Arya safely to Jon Snow and eventually to her mother.

7) A band of knights and soldiers led by Beric Dondarrion and Thoros of Myr were sent by Ned Stark to capture Jaime Lannister when Ned was still Hand of the King. Now they are outlaws and fighting Lannisters and Starks all alike in the name of Robert Baratheon. They are located near the Trident area.

8) Lord Commander Mormont has taken over 300 of the Nights Watch to find out the truth behind rumours that Mance Ryder, self proclaimed King-Beyond-The-Wall has been gathering a fucking lot of wildlings and what not for an assault on the Wall and the rest of Westeros. But there are also other entities out there known simply as the Others that can reanimate the dead.

9) Dany walks the desert and is boring

Nothing's boring when dragons are involved.

I miss seeing dany get Khal fucked

And as a humorous badass nonetheless.

I like him a lot. No way he is worse than, say, Joffrey.

Joffrey is such a heel. I for real hate him.

He does seem like a bit of a scumbag. Bet he's going to end up trying to get thingy Tyrell (Renly's widow) married off to Joffrey.

Joffrey's definitely worse than him though.

Joffrey is a cunt. It's easy to loathe him. He is literally a psychopath in the vein of the mad king. Littlefinger is an asshole. He's good at what he does, but my god do I hate him as a person. Conniving bastard who only cares about himself. At least Varys seems to be a 'good' person and has good reasons for the things he does. He's not simply looking out for #1.

Also, I think Cersei is a way more 'vile' person than Littlefinger. She is an entirely terrible person with zero morals.

I have to disagree about Cersei. In the end, she did all for her children and she was once good before

Also, Littlefinger cares a whole lot for the Tullys and their children. You know what I mean.

I like Littlefinger. He's one of the guys I can name.

Cersei uses totally dishonest ways to get things for her family that they didn't deserve in the first place though. She is not a good person by any means. She has zero morals, and will lie or cheat her way to the top by any means necessary. She doesn't care if something is wrong, as long as it benefits her family.

I mean, there's providing for your family, doing what's necessary for their safety.. and then there's just plain manipulating people who are just trying to do good things, so that your family can get things they don't deserve. Things that her false sense of entitlement made her feel she deserved.

She really has no redeeming qualities. Had 3 children with her brother, plotted to murder Robert Baratheon (and essentially did). All because she was mad that she had to marry him, and that he still loved a woman who was dead. She allowed herself to be overcome by hatred and spite. She is a petty woman, who thinks money can solve anything and that being honorable is a weakness. She is a vile person.