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Corporate CockSnogger 04-25-2013 09:28 AM

Just been to see it now. Really enjoyable, had a different style to it than the previous instalments but the story and writing was just as enjoyable.

Not gonna mention anything spoilerish. Good to see The Mandarin is a Liverpool fan though.

Corporate CockSnogger 04-25-2013 09:29 AM

Also Jon Favreau's really piled on the weight :'(

The Destroyer 04-25-2013 10:27 AM

I wanted Mandarin to be an Everton fan. Boycotting the film now.

VSG 04-25-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 4189737)
Good to see The Mandarin is a Liverpool fan though.

Might have to boycott the film now.

Corporate CockSnogger 04-25-2013 03:40 PM

I will fight you both

VSG 04-25-2013 03:51 PM

Get your teeth fixed first, how can I knock them out otherwise?

Optimus Bone 69 04-29-2013 03:55 PM

is the a post credits bit?

VSG 04-29-2013 09:42 PM

Seems so, I am steering away from anything spoiler though.

Asmo 04-29-2013 11:39 PM

Mixed feelings for this one. On the downside, IM3 doesn't have the 'WOW' factor that the Avengers, Thor, and even Iron Man 1 gave you after leaving the theater. There aren't a lot of memorable dialogues or set pieces.

Having said that, what you will remember is the chemistry between RDJ and the young kid, and every scene with Paltrow. Pepper Potts is literally, hotter than ever before. And of course, all the swerves that occur, especially the one featuring Ben Kingsley. RDJ is still in top form as Tony Stark.

IMO, what didn't help the movie was the fact that it comes after The Avengers. It does its job as an Iron Man film, but it really isn't essential viewing as the first phase movies were, all building up to the Avengers. The post-credits scene is a sketch, and in hindsight, feels like a letdown.

But, the big question is where does the character and the IM universe go from here? And i can see why Paltrow said that 'there may not be an IM4'. I've never read the comics, so does the end mirror a storyline from there? If so, direct me to it?

Krimzon7 04-30-2013 12:54 AM

It sucks that you can read the entire plot of IM3 on Wikipedia

Corporate CockSnogger 04-30-2013 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optimus Bone 69 (Post 4192539)
is the a post credits bit?

Yeah. Although it's at the verrrrry end of the credits and not just after the initial credits, so make sure you stick around til the very end.

Corporate CockSnogger 04-30-2013 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 4193084)
It sucks that you can read the entire plot of IM3 on Wikipedia

Why? You can always just not read it.

Kalyx triaD 04-30-2013 07:39 AM

Also that's every movie ever since Wiki came out.

Hanso Amore 04-30-2013 10:35 AM

Some asshole on twitter spoiled the Twist for me. And Might I say, what a shit nugget. Very unhappy with this news. d

Kalyx triaD 05-01-2013 04:24 AM

As a comic fan, not too crazy about this as a superhero movie - but this is a very good action movie that had late 80s vibes in it.

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Not too crazy about the swerve in concept, but the execution was hilarious and almost worth it. Just surreal. I wanted to be mad, but I legit found it funny.

Corporate CockSnogger 05-01-2013 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4193769)

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Not too crazy about the swerve in concept, but the execution was hilarious and almost worth it. Just surreal. I wanted to be mad, but I legit found it funny.

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That's pretty much the reaction I was expecting from people who are more fans of the comics than myself. I'm not really a huge comic follower so I don't have ay prior connection to The Mandarin where I would get angry at them portraying him in that way, but could understand if others did. However Kingsley was so great in the whole reveal and from that point on, that I don't see how anyone can't really enjoy it.

El Vaquero de Infierno 05-01-2013 10:45 AM

I went to see it today. I was more excited by the 2 minute Star Trek trailer than the whole of the film. Though I always think RDJ is great in the films, I am always kinda disappointed with every other aspect.

Plus, I haven't seen the Avengers film so I don't know what they are talking about in regards to "New York," but that did not necessarily detract from me experiencing the film as a separate entity.

RoXer 05-01-2013 01:47 PM

not reading this thread for a whole week

have fun y'all..

Miotch 05-01-2013 02:33 PM

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Kalyx triaD 05-01-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 4193776)
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That's pretty much the reaction I was expecting from people who are more fans of the comics than myself. I'm not really a huge comic follower so I don't have ay prior connection to The Mandarin where I would get angry at them portraying him in that way, but could understand if others did. However Kingsley was so great in the whole reveal and from that point on, that I don't see how anyone can't really enjoy it.

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But that's where it gets kinda meta doesn't it? The trailers and interviews painted this ultimate villain who's the ultimate terrorists in universe. We all fell for Killians scheme, his smoke and mirrors. It works on so many levels and Shane Black IS the kind of director who'd foresee that.

I'm kinda sorry to see Pepper's RESCUE persona was exaggerated (oh ye internet), but it seems she leaves the movie with new powers. That may lead to something in the greater scheme of things.

And hell yeah to the Unibeam kill.

Kalyx triaD 05-02-2013 07:11 AM

I had 24hrs to let the movie sink in and I gotta say, I love this movie. It reminds of when I saw Thor in that it just barely feels like a superhero movie. It has the hero, yeah, and the villain with an overly complicated scheme but...

Just keep an open mind fellas, Iron Man 3 is why we watch movies.

Kane Knight 05-02-2013 12:55 PM

For Pepper Potts?

Kalyx triaD 05-02-2013 03:08 PM

Anybody remember me wanting Pepper to be an Avenger....?

Krimzon7 05-02-2013 05:16 PM

gonna go see this in a couple of hours...can't wait!

Shadow 05-03-2013 12:43 AM

Gonna see it tomorrow.

loopydate 05-03-2013 10:07 PM

I loved it.

Sort of
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If a billionaire celebrity can embrace putting on a facade and being a good guy, it makes perfect sense for the bad guys to embrace the idea of putting out a face of their own and embracing the Hollywood aspect.


It had the unenviable task of following Avengers, but it was every bit as good as any of the Phase I solo films. It might actually be my favorite solo yet. The ending confrontation was obviously not what I went in expecting, but it was every bit as satisfying as the anticipated showdown would have been. Really great work, and RDJ was spectacular as always.

VSG 05-03-2013 10:24 PM

Just got back and I must admit the movie blew away all my expectations in a good way.

Kalyx triaD 05-03-2013 11:17 PM

It's so surprising right? Like there's moment where you should nerd rage but it's done SO WELL.

Kalyx triaD 05-03-2013 11:19 PM

And good job to Marvel for keeping a swerve of that magnitude so well covered up until the week of release.

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There's playsets of a final battle with Manderin ffs, and not ONE figure of Extremis Killian.

Kane Knight 05-04-2013 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4194615)
Anybody remember me wanting Pepper to be an Avenger....?

I don't remember fifteen minutes ago.

Kalyx triaD 05-04-2013 01:07 AM

Well if she doesn't get more presence in the MCU after this I'll eat my hat.

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While not Rescue per se, they pretty much graduated her to a superhero-hood with a final badass move.

Kane Knight 05-04-2013 01:19 AM

Here's hoping you don't have to eat your hat.

Shadow 05-04-2013 03:58 PM

Loved every bit of the movie and it had throw backs to just about every major Iron Man comic event.

Krimzon7 05-04-2013 08:16 PM

HOOOOOOLY SHIT! IM3 was so enjoyable. There were so many great moments here. The little kid almost stole the movie from right under RDJ. I also loved Pepper Potts for the first time since these movies got made.

McLegend 05-05-2013 01:36 PM

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Highly enjoyable. It was interesting how he spent as much time as did out of the suit. Robert Downy Jr is awesome though.

I think I would have liked it more if The Mandrian was the real threat, but Ben Kingsley killed it. He was great.

Where does the whole Iron Man franchise go from here? Also how can Tony Stark be in The Avengers now? How does he fit it?

Overall good, but not as good as Iron Man, and I'm unsure if it's better then Iron Man 2.

Rammsteinmad 05-05-2013 01:48 PM

How long do we have to wait until we can stop using spoiler tags. I know this film came out in Europe before America, but I saw it almost two weeks ago. Kinda gets annoying having to creep around and be aware of what you're saying.

Maybe there can be some kinda system to these threads? Like, once the movies been released, anywhere in the world, that we can discuss it in this forum, and if you've yet to see it, then just don't go in the thread.

Free speech on the internet for 2013! :yes:

Kalyx triaD 05-05-2013 03:33 PM

Speak freely guys, after official launch it's up to people to see it or avoid the thread.

I will make a formal thread about spoiler etiquette this week because it was something I wanted to address for a while now.

dronepool 05-05-2013 03:56 PM

I liked it. Funny and enjoyable.

Krimzon7 05-05-2013 04:04 PM

Did Agent Coulson die again???

Kalyx triaD 05-05-2013 05:02 PM

He wasn't in this movie.

McLegend 05-05-2013 05:07 PM

The Mandrian was a cool ass villian.

Heisenberg 05-05-2013 06:37 PM

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The chick that Stark runs into at the bar was NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...agonlord-1.jpg

Stephanie Szostak


No real spoiler, just an observation.

Kalyx triaD 05-05-2013 06:44 PM

She was pretty.

Shadow 05-06-2013 12:46 AM

Like her better as a redhead.

Very hot...smoking hot in fact.

Kalyx triaD 05-06-2013 01:00 AM

Clever.

Shaggy 05-06-2013 02:16 AM

I liked it but I really didn't walk away with the awesome feeling I had from the first movie. IMO its better than the 2nd but the first one is still the best.

I am curious to see how the ending of this actually plays into Avengers 2.

Kalyx triaD 05-06-2013 03:52 AM

I think it sets a status quo; about how the world feels after New York. Killian's remarks about why he did what he did was interesting (regarding his Thor reference). Things have changed. The bad guys may not feel a need to pussy foot around anymore.

I think we will see the president again in Cap 2, and Killian seemed like he had a Disney death, kinda ambiguous to me. Maybe the next time we see him, if he lived, he'll just be a mental organism designed only for killing.

I'm drunk now so take all that as silly speculation.

loopydate 05-06-2013 08:02 PM

I see what you did there.

Blitz 05-07-2013 01:07 AM

Solid film. Better than 2, probably not as good as 1. Lot more humour then I expected. Loved when the henchmen was like "I don't even wanna work here. They are so weird". Wasn't much into the increased Pepper Potts presence as I'm not a huge fan of Paltrow in general, and some of the stuff with Tony and that kid threatened to rot my teeth, so saccharine it was. Also would've liked more Rhodey/Stark duo time because they're fantastic together.

Regarding the Mandarin:
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I dug the twist. Kingsley was hilariously in that reveal scene. I love how comic book movies nowadays have so much more freedom to adapt the source material, and don't see it all as sacred stuff not to be touched. I found myself liking Killian as the villain a lot more than I thought I would. Guy Pearce does great with it.

Now, that said, in no way am I absolutely convinced we actually saw what we saw. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Kingsley return and reveal that the Master was playing everyone.

Kalyx triaD 05-07-2013 01:18 AM

I have imagined that 'Tyler', who may well go free as he was a hostage technically and did no wrong, probably tries to keep his fame and totally dives into the Mandarin character. For real. He does have followers, like minds don't know any better, or perhaps he can simply gain new ones by running something himself. Hell, perhaps he'll get actual powerful rings to wear - a gift from Thanos perhaps? There's a lot of places he can go, though he can rest as a perpetual comedic character in the MCU if he ever returns.

I personally would love to see him take his act to Asgard.

VSG 05-07-2013 08:38 AM

I would love to see that, or any form of 'Tyler' returning.

DaveBrawl 05-07-2013 09:25 AM

I guess I'll be the dissenting voice as I didn't really care for this. I mean it was alright, but I went in with low expectations after #2 and those were barely met. I saw Pain & Gain later that night and enjoyed that much more to be honest.

I guess it just seemed to me like it didn't know what direction it wanted to go.
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I get the 'fake' Mandarin deal, didn't really like it as I wanted the real deal, but it makes a lot of sense and I have no problem with that.

My deal is more with the tone changing from dark and brooding to joking and back and forth every few minutes. Dude lost everything at one point and he goes from anxiety attack to smirking and smug. Then he bascally turns into James Bond and infiltrates a compound full of security with relative ease. Of course we also have the ending with Super Pepper basically bodyslamming the whole ending of the Avengers. Tony finally learns how to be a hero and saves everyone from an army of aliens and a God and now he with an army of his armors needs saving from one man.


To me it didn't fit well.

VSG 05-07-2013 09:59 AM

coldhardtruth would have been proud

DaveBrawl 05-07-2013 10:21 AM

I hope so.

Kalyx triaD 05-07-2013 02:56 PM

Let's not forget the deliciously random TV show opening style end credits.

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DaveBrawl 05-07-2013 03:05 PM

I did love those.

Corporate CockSnogger 05-07-2013 03:33 PM

Guys, you're all forgetting to mention the appearance of Martin Skrtel celebrating a Liverpool goal.

Nowhere Man 05-07-2013 04:15 PM

I just spent most of my morning and early afternoon putting together a full review for Iron Man 3 on my blog.

The short version? I liked it, but I didn't think they did anywhere near enough with they had available. It could have been really genuinely great, but instead, it was just good. Fun, but that's about it.

The long version is right here.

McLegend 05-07-2013 08:49 PM

Are the chances good that Robert Downey Jr. comes back for The Avengers?

loopydate 05-07-2013 08:50 PM

Yeah, he's under contract for the Avengers sequel.

Also, nice read, Andy. Always like seeing your long-form thoughts on pop stuff.

Kalyx triaD 05-07-2013 08:52 PM

Tony is so coming back, but the Iron Man series in itself is most likely down. After Avengers 2 it'll be cameos at best in Phase Three if that.

McLegend 05-07-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 4197836)
Yeah, he's under contract for the Avengers sequel.

Also, nice read, Andy. Always like seeing your long-form thoughts on pop stuff.

I'm reading he has fulfilled his contract with Iron Man 3. Right now he's only in talks about Avengers 2 and 3.

He's not taking a paycut either. He doesn't want to do a solo movie.

Kalyx triaD 05-07-2013 08:59 PM

He's not doing three, he's certainly appearing in 2.

A3 will most likely have an altered roster. Probably won't even be called Avengers.

McLegend 05-07-2013 09:04 PM

I think he will be in both. As I think most of them if not all of them will be in 2 & 3.

dronepool 05-07-2013 09:17 PM

Thing is RDJ is the best part of the MCU. They need him. They can't use other popular characters and without Wolverine or Spider-Man, we don't really have a super well known and liked character or actor.


And is it dumb or with this recent post-retro Power Rangers hype would it be a good move for Jason David Frank to be cast as... Iron Fist?

Nowhere Man 05-07-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dronepool (Post 4197857)
And is it dumb or with this recent post-retro Power Rangers hype would it be a good move for Jason David Frank to be cast as... Iron Fist?

Team him up with Michael Jai White as Luke Cage, do a 70s-style exploitation movie of Heroes For Hire, and I'm sold.

loopydate 05-07-2013 10:44 PM

I'm still holding out hope that J. August Richards' "top-secret" role on the SHIELD series is Luke.

Kalyx triaD 05-07-2013 11:00 PM

JDF would be an interesting choice for Iron Fist, but I gotta bring up Ray Park who's been lobbying to be Iron Fist for damn near a decade now.

Shadow 05-08-2013 12:56 AM

Ray Park and JDF want to be Iron Fist?

....FUCK!

Rammsteinmad 05-08-2013 02:56 PM

JDF could still be the villain if that were a movie. He has "the laugh" going for him.

Kalyx triaD 05-08-2013 03:25 PM

Don't think a cheesy evil kid's show laugh would translate to a Marvel movie.

The Jayman 05-08-2013 06:23 PM

Sure it can with a little movie magic

DaveBrawl 05-08-2013 07:06 PM

If they can make a dude breathing fire not seem outrageous surely they can work with a cheesy laugh.

Kalyx triaD 05-08-2013 07:11 PM

Degrees, man, there are degrees.

Swiss Ultimate 05-08-2013 08:41 PM

I really liked it. A lot. Felt it was better than 2 (I didn't hate 2). Very fun movie.

Swiss Ultimate 05-08-2013 08:43 PM

They need to bring in JCVD.

DaveBrawl 05-08-2013 09:06 PM

:heart:

Would love that so much.

Kalyx triaD 05-08-2013 09:27 PM

Who would he play, I wonder....

DaveBrawl 05-08-2013 09:53 PM

Iron Man. Dump Downey.

Swiss Ultimate 05-09-2013 08:06 AM

It would be meta if JCVD played himself in the Marvel Universe and was making an Iron Man movie with John Woo or something.

Lock Jaw 05-09-2013 01:10 PM

Saw this movie yesterday. I enjoyed it.

Like most here, I thought I was going to be disappointed by the "twist" with The Mandarin, but it was just so amusing. I wonder, though, why they were still calling him "The Master" when no one was around. Unless only Killian knew the truth, but it did not seem that well guarded.

I wonder if Killian was behind the "League of the Ten Rings" thing from the first movie, or if maybe he just took inspiration from a real terrorist organization. In which case, a Mandarin-like threat could still be out there. Or someone is "inspired" by the fake Mandarin broadcasts and becomes a real one.

Kalyx triaD 05-09-2013 02:29 PM

I imagine Killian started the Ten Rings long ago and was behind just about everything wrong in Tony's life. Probably should have been more forthcoming with Shane, though maybe Extremis wasn't up and running yet.

VSG 05-09-2013 04:20 PM

There isn't an Iron Man 4 on the cards, is there? If not, this is it as far as any more Mandarin goes.

Kalyx triaD 05-09-2013 04:30 PM

IM4 is a slim shot, and they're setting up Phase 3 right now with no talk of an Iron Man movie in sight.

War Machine/Iron Patriot and Rescue? Who knows. People are still interested in that corner of the MCU, we love the power suits. An Iron Man movie without the Iron Man would be a hard sell, though. Robert's the star of the MCU as much as Hugh's the star of the X-Men movie-verse. Both paid their dues, though, and they're not getting any younger.

Damian Rey 05-09-2013 09:49 PM

I have a hard time seeing the franchise going forward without RDJ. Also, there a reason John Faverau didn't direct this one?

dronepool 05-09-2013 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4198527)
Who would he play, I wonder....

I know he's Asian but Shang Chi?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4198956)
Hugh's the star of the X-Men movie-verse. Both paid their dues, though, and they're not getting any younger.

Old Man Logan.

Kalyx triaD 05-09-2013 10:13 PM

NICE

Krimzon7 05-09-2013 11:03 PM

wasn't there some chinese actor that was supposed to be in the movie?

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-09-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 4198048)
Ray Park and JDF want to be Iron Fist?

....FUCK!

Go Green Ranger Go!

Skippord 05-09-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4199063)
I have a hard time seeing the franchise going forward without RDJ. Also, there a reason John Faverau didn't direct this one?

He wanted to direct a different movie.

Kalyx triaD 05-10-2013 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 4199088)
wasn't there some chinese actor that was supposed to be in the movie?

In the chinese cut. 2 of them.

Reavant 05-10-2013 02:35 AM

the post credits scene was pretty funny but does this movie count then in his contracted appearances as bb? aaaand i thought the end credits were supposed to tie into the gaurdians movie... oh well

Asmo 05-10-2013 03:36 AM

One thing that bothered me about the post-credits scene. Why does the doctor have salt and pepper hair? Isn't he supposed to be younger?

Kalyx triaD 05-10-2013 04:41 AM

He had greying hair in Avengers. I don't mind.

Kalyx triaD 05-10-2013 04:42 AM

And no a post credits scene doesn't count. It goes with the feature.

XL 05-10-2013 08:56 AM

Seen a few people - including 'whereman in his blog - question why Tony didn't use the "Army of Suits" during the attack on his home.

My take on it was that the only suit that was remote controlled at the time of the attack was the Mark 42 prototype. After his time in the wilderness Tony sets Jarvis to task on upgrading the remaining suits to all be remote controlled. Pretty sure they allude to this in the conversations between Tony and Jarvis during the big action sequence leading to the final battle.

Of course, I could be wrong.

VSG 05-10-2013 12:20 PM

I think you are right too, I was not sure of this and thought maybe I had just imagined the whole part where Jarvis was upgrading the other suits.

XL 05-10-2013 01:44 PM

Also, I forgot to say, the 3D in this was pretty lacklustre. Didn't add anything to the film and they seemed to do so little to utilise the technology.

Heisenberg 05-10-2013 04:08 PM

Sorry if this was said already, but I thought that the War Machine suit was going to come flying in with the others towards the end. Seems like they were saving something for the Iron Patriot suit to make it's way back into the battle.

Kalyx triaD 05-10-2013 04:20 PM

Iron Patriot is the War Machine suit.


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