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Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4370257)
You can't have the inmates running the asylum. It'd turn into HBK/Bret all over again. You can't run a business like that.

Come on. If Health Slater became head booker and made himself champion you'd be singing a completely different song.

Bad News Gertner 01-30-2014 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 4370271)
Come on. If Health Slater became head booker and made himself champion you'd be singing a completely different song.

More Heath Slater is best for business. The MasterSlaters have been pushing this idea for a while.

Bad News Gertner 01-30-2014 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4370261)
Maybe there isn't. It just seems weird to shit on the fans when they are trying to get people to sign on to 6 months of a WWE Network that could make or break them.

The people who chant Yes! Yes! Yes! are the core WWE audience that they need to have a base audience for the Network to succeed.

Completely incorrect. There's no "base audience" for the network besides wrestling fans. It'll appeal just as much to the IWC as it will to the family who can't afford to pay $50 every month for a PPV, and instead can watch them for a 1/5th the price. It has mass appeal.

Anybody Thrilla 01-30-2014 12:18 AM

I was really impressed with 3MB on Main Event, and I think they could have a really fun match with The Shield.

Bad News Gertner 01-30-2014 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4370279)
I was really impressed with 3MB on Main Event, and I think they could have a really fun match with The Shield.

All 3 can go, especially Slater who had some fantastic matches with Justin Gabriel on Superstars. They are highly entertaining.

Poit 01-30-2014 01:05 AM

I'm definitely a fan of Drew. I'd like to see 3MB with the tag titles under the Freebird rule.

Fignuts 01-30-2014 02:23 AM

Feel like Gertner is masturbating to every new update in this story.

Bad News Gertner 01-30-2014 02:25 AM

My cock is getting a high workrate.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 02:34 AM

I love wrestling "news"... update #5235 on punk, one person said one source has knowledge that punk wore green tights and obviously it means its a work and source this source that with zero cred.

Fignuts 01-30-2014 03:05 AM

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Droford 01-30-2014 03:12 AM

Its time to give the kids what they want to see


Tom Guycott 01-30-2014 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Poit (Post 4370296)
I'm definitely a fan of Drew. I'd like to see 3MB with the tag titles under the Freebird rule.

Truthfully, I thought that's where they were going when they first FORMED 3MB... to be the "new Freebirds". Hell, they enacted the Freebird rule with Spirit Squad, why not these guys?

And to make this relevant to the thread: I have it on reliable source that CM Punk will join them to become 4MB.

Droford 01-30-2014 03:15 AM

Punk should take a picture of the ball in his fridge

Curd 01-30-2014 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by erickman (Post 4369714)
so is he going to wrestle aj styles now in roh

If not immediately as a one-off allowed by WWE, then definitely yes come July or August.

Fignuts 01-30-2014 04:31 AM

Definitely? Really?

James Steele 01-30-2014 06:20 AM

I think it is a work, but if it isn't then I have to agree with Gertner on this. CM Punk is acting like the shithead HBK was in 96/97 only Punk isn't pilled out of his mind. He throws a bitch fit whenever the WWE doesn't have the world revolve around him, and there are much more professional and ethical ways to deal with this. Stone Cold leaving was horseshit and CM Punk leaving is horseshit. He's admitted that he is "phoning it in" and started not to care as much, yet he wants to throw a temper tantrum when WWE chooses somebody else to headline WrestleMania. Batista getting the rocket push is bullshit, but you don't walk out with 6 months left on your contract. Either way, CM Punk needs to quit being such a moody bitch all the time. He is starting to come off like Bret Hart to where he is a mark for himself and takes shit too seriously. Hopefully he doesn't get to where he refuses to job in Chicago.

I fully expect him to interfere in the World Title Chamber match and fuck shit up to start his Mania match build with Triple H.

Bad News Gertner 01-30-2014 06:24 AM

Like your fucking contract is done in July. I'm big on honoring your agreement. At least finish Wrestlemania and then go away, because he's hurting the company that made him financially secure. Christ, it's like if he's not main eventing with the belt, and the storylines are catered to him he bitches. We all complained when Hogan did it, we would have bitched if the net were like how it is today when Bret and HBK held the company hostage, but because he's an IWC darling then it's ok. Bull fucking shit. He's standing to make a ton of money wrestling in a high profile match against HHH who you know will book this match to be big since he's running the show. Suck it up and finish the next two months.

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 06:27 AM

I really hope to god this is a work after reading all this thread. So much anger in it :lol:

Bad News Gertner 01-30-2014 06:30 AM

He's so friggen tiresome. Either leave or stay. Enough with this song and dance.

Curd 01-30-2014 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4370365)
Definitely? Really?

I "know" people... ;)

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-30-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4370348)

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SlickyTrickyDamon 01-30-2014 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 4370270)
I want to hear STD's 'Yes!' version of This Fire Burns.

Yes version of Cult of Personality is on the list.

XL 01-30-2014 09:05 AM

If it were a work from the get go you'd think it would have happened on Raw and you've have seen him leave. More than likely it will be spun into a work when he returns and I don't doubt for a second that it will.

He's been pretty smart about it really. Right now he'll be below Batista, Cena, Orton, Lesnar and Taker for sure. Add in Bryan and Wyatt and he slides further in importance. Give it 4 months and Taker is back on sabbatical, Lessor's limited dates are used up, Batista is away filming/doing the rounds for promotion, and WWE have done a piss-poor job of elevating anybody else, Punk knows they're gonna need some star power. Ball is in his court and he has them over a barrel.

Kris P Lettus 01-30-2014 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4369987)
If he's off the road, I wonder how long it takes for him and AJ to break up and then for him to start dating Ronda Rousey.

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4370004)
that'd be so awesome if he started dating rowdy ronda.

She already has a "thing" for him, but she dates Rener and he is also Punks BJJ coach so DUNNO.

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Innovator 01-30-2014 09:49 AM

Rener is engaged to Eve Torres, right?

Next Big Thing 01-30-2014 09:58 AM

That's right. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Punk was In Ronda's walkout for her next fight, if only for the buzz it would create on multiple levels for both sides.

Innovator 01-30-2014 10:00 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I call dibs on GTS, Pepsi Plunge and running knee in corner. I am sure Sheamus will take the rest.</p>&mdash; Ryan Reeves (@Ryback22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryback22/statuses/428655808763547648">January 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Innovator 01-30-2014 10:01 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Internet I officially delete my career to this point and now proclaim myself The Best Big Guy In The World!</p>&mdash; Ryan Reeves (@Ryback22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryback22/statuses/428744688711905280">January 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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KIRA 01-30-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4370348)

Jesus, Dave looks old

Kris P Lettus 01-30-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4370407)
Rener is engaged to Eve Torres, right?

Might be the other borther she dates

Kris P Lettus 01-30-2014 10:26 AM

It's a Rickson black belt who teaches at Gracie MMA named Henry Atkins. She met him at their gym.

He is mad old and looks like Bobby Voelkner

Bad News Gertner 01-30-2014 10:43 AM

Lol Ryback is amazing.

Swiss Ultimate 01-30-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4370414)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Internet I officially delete my career to this point and now proclaim myself The Best Big Guy In The World!</p>&mdash; Ryan Reeves (@Ryback22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryback22/statuses/428744688711905280">January 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>“<a href="https://twitter.com/coluccid2">@coluccid2</a>:try winning a main event...or even a title before you can even declare yourself that <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23overrated&amp;src=hash">#overrated</a>” I am a 3 time WWE Champion.</p>&mdash; Ryan Reeves (@Ryback22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryback22/statuses/428752650897592320">January 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Swiss Ultimate 01-30-2014 12:28 PM

Guy has 3 tweets and over 900,000 followers. If it wasn't a verified account I'd call it fake.

Nark Order 01-30-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4370378)
I think it is a work, but if it isn't then I have to agree with Gertner on this. CM Punk is acting like the shithead HBK was in 96/97 only Punk isn't pilled out of his mind. He throws a bitch fit whenever the WWE doesn't have the world revolve around him, and there are much more professional and ethical ways to deal with this. Stone Cold leaving was horseshit and CM Punk leaving is horseshit. He's admitted that he is "phoning it in" and started not to care as much, yet he wants to throw a temper tantrum when WWE chooses somebody else to headline WrestleMania. Batista getting the rocket push is bullshit, but you don't walk out with 6 months left on your contract. Either way, CM Punk needs to quit being such a moody bitch all the time. He is starting to come off like Bret Hart to where he is a mark for himself and takes shit too seriously. Hopefully he doesn't get to where he refuses to job in Chicago.

I fully expect him to interfere in the World Title Chamber match and fuck shit up to start his Mania match build with Triple H.

A Triple H fan complaining about ethics. There you go.

SammyG 01-30-2014 01:14 PM

This is TERRIBLE timing, if it's not a work. TERRIBLE. If it's a storyline, WM is gonna be hot.

VSG 01-30-2014 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4370348)

Whoever did this is an artist. AJ really looks real in there.

VSG 01-30-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DTTS (Post 4370476)
Guy has 3 tweets and over 900,000 followers. If it wasn't a verified account I'd call it fake.

He deletes tweets regularly, don't go by that number.

Swiss Ultimate 01-30-2014 02:23 PM

Doesn't he understand that those tweets don't go away? That records of them still exist?

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 02:38 PM

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Source: The Wrestling Observer
The latest on the CM Punk leaving WWE situation is that Punk was reportedly not happy about the idea of facing Triple H at WrestleMania. The reason is that Punk did not feel that Triple H was his idea of a big match/feud at WrestleMania.
Prior to his exit from WWE on Monday, creative plans called for CM Punk to face Kane at Elimination Chamber. This was all part of the bigger plan of Punk feuding with the Authority and leading to Punk vs. Triple H at WrestleMania. The general feeling is that Punk was turned off by the plans.
At this time, it’s being said that Vince McMahon wants Punk back, while Triple H has mixed feelings on the idea. Triple H feels that Punk walking out at the last minute on Monday was extremely disrespectful. Vince McMahon is now handling the situation.
We’ll keep you posted as we hear more.
lol I guess you need to take these reports with a grain of salt, but from what I've gathered, is Vince DOES have a good relationship with Punk for the most part, especially from the Helwani interview where Punk was talking about how they txt each other. If everything the news reports are saying is true, I find it hilarious that HHH is hiding behind Punk being unprofessional, and not admitting he's butt hurt that Punk doesn't want anything to do with him, which is honestly all kinds of amazing. That would have to chap Hunter's ass, probably thinks in his mind he's doing Punk some huge favour by "gracing" him with a match (as well as a guaranteed pedigree and 1-2-3 finish lol).

Fignuts 01-30-2014 02:43 PM

Whether you like HHH or not, he's the the top heel in the company right now, moreso than Orton. A match with him would be the culmination of the Authority angle, and would be a big deal.

Emperor Smeat 01-30-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Observer
It’s sketchy what happened. Over the last week, ever since Punk’s interview with Ariel Helwani before the Chicago UFC show where he openly brought up that his contract was up in July and didn’t want to say what he was going to do next, several people who know him had noted not to be surprised if he leaves. Two different people said that he was “as good as gone” in July, and one said that they didn’t expect him to even last until July.

There were frustrations with creative and with money, even though he has made great money the last several years. This was not a spur of the moment thing as much as something that had been building. The way we were told was that he couldn’t take it any longer and told McMahon that he was going home. McMahon had been tied up all day since they were rewriting the show, based on what happened the prior night at the Royal Rumble to figure out a way to keep the show under control and not have the audience hijack it again. Punk had been scheduled for an interview on the show to presumably build up a match with Kane on the PPV, which would lead to his planned WrestleMania match with HHH.

Because McMahon was so busy, Punk didn’t see him until 7:30 p.m., when he told him he was leaving. The reason the Kofi Kingston vs. Alberto Del Rio match on Raw went so long is because it came during the period laid out for Punk’s interview and had to go a second segment to cover the time, so the key “money” segments would be in their correct time slots.

The working assumption internally has been for several weeks that Punk was leaving in July and not going to sign a new deal. The belief was that he is not a spender, has saved his money and doesn’t have to work. It was a weird dynamic because he’s one of the few guys on the roster that the company and Vince McMahon knew believed he didn’t need them, and financially, really doesn’t. So they can’t deal with him from the same level as all the other guys who are scared to lose their jobs and spots.

Within the company, the reason was that he came to the realization that he would never be positioned higher than he was. His goal was to main event WrestleMania, as in be in the real main event. He felt that because he didn’t fit the mold of what they think the top star in the company should look like, he would never be the guy and the centerpiece.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Another person close to the situation who was aware it was coming, just didn’t know when, said it was a classic case of being burned out, and noted the dichotomy that he’s never had a job where he’s made anywhere close to the same amount of money, nor ever been as famous, and gotten more out of wrestling than this one. But, he has been miserable at the job for some time, and he was a guy who loved working in pro wrestling when he made nothing or very little. It was noted that he never had the personal connection with Vince McMahon that most of the big stars had, and always knew he was not their kind of guy, didn’t have the look they thought a star should have, and felt he got over in spite of how he was used and not because of how he was used. The feeling was that there was a communication issue and lingering unresolved issues that dated back some time, probably most of the last year, combined with frustration regarding creative going forward and of late.

Sheamus will be replacing Punk at all the Smackdown tapings where he was largely advertised as the main star. It is a brave new world and you can never rule out the possibility it’s a work, and you won’t know for sure unless Mania comes and goes without a return. Daniel Bryan will be advertised as the main star on Smackdown going forward since John Cena is not booked often on the Tuesday tapings.


Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 02:49 PM

I don't think that's his problem with it. He probably thinks HHH SHOULDN'T BE a top heel right now and it would be another case of a part timer (as an active wrestler) taking away from a young guy. But that is pure speculation on my part.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 03:16 PM

Or it could be, just MAYBE, that CM Punk actually understands and pays attention to storylines and the show and sees that Daniel Bryan has been feuding with the authority and not Punk so having HHH v Punk is a backhanded throw together of a match just like last year, and the year before.

You guys want to act as if he is supposed to always take bullets for the company even if they are the one shooting him. That time honored code nonsense is from a far different generation. The internet age Punk knows he can create his own stir and hold the cards. Furthermore, imagine for a second there was somewhere else that was legit competition, how much more do you think creative would be coming up with better ideas and direction? IMHO that's where Punk's head is

If he walks off does he burn bridges, sure. But how many did the ultimate jackoff burn and now he's getting a bust in the HOF. He can always come back and work part time for rumbles and Mania and get in the main event that way

VSG 01-30-2014 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4370526)
lol I guess you need to take these reports with a grain of salt, but from what I've gathered, is Vince DOES have a good relationship with Punk for the most part, especially from the Helwani interview where Punk was talking about how they txt each other. If everything the news reports are saying is true, I find it hilarious that HHH is hiding behind Punk being unprofessional, and not admitting he's butt hurt that Punk doesn't want anything to do with him, which is honestly all kinds of amazing. That would have to chap Hunter's ass, probably thinks in his mind he's doing Punk some huge favour by "gracing" him with a match (as well as a guaranteed pedigree and 1-2-3 finish lol).

What's wrong with HHH thinking Punk was being unprofessional? If I were he and this was true, I would have suspended Punk without pay.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 03:21 PM

I'll agree with Norman Smiley. He doesn't need them at this point either. I'm not the #1 CM Punk fan but I appreciate that he has a set of balls on him, and a brain in his head. He actually DOES care about the product and it seems to piss him off how bad the writing is, (which it really really is in every way)

#bigwiggle

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4370542)
What's wrong with HHH thinking Punk was being unprofessional? If I were he and this was true, I would have suspended Punk without pay.

HHH is well within his rights to think Punk unprofessional, he walked out on a contract after all. But once again, I SPECULATE that HHH is probably pretty offended the Punk doesn't really want to work with him, because the only thing bigger than Mr. "I AM THIS BUSINESS"'s nose, is his ego.

Swiss Ultimate 01-30-2014 03:25 PM

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The Rogerer 01-30-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DTTS (Post 4370519)
Doesn't he understand that those tweets don't go away? That records of them still exist?

Deleting is for winners

The Rogerer 01-30-2014 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4370542)
What's wrong with HHH thinking Punk was being unprofessional? If I were he and this was true, I would have suspended Punk without pay.

If I were Punk, I would tell him to stick his pay up his arse.

VSG 01-30-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4370546)
HHH is well within his rights to think Punk unprofessional, he walked out on a contract after all. But once again, I SPECULATE that HHH is probably pretty offended the Punk doesn't really want to work with him, because the only thing bigger than Mr. "I AM THIS BUSINESS"'s nose, is his ego.

Are you really thinking Punk had no clue that he would have a payoff against HHH after the months of him fighting HHH and Kane's authority? Whether he liked it or not is up to him, but it makes no sense to have Punk into the title scene without settling scores with Kane at the very least.

VSG 01-30-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rogerer (Post 4370553)
If I were Punk, I would tell him to stick his pay up his arse.

Stop being so controversial, this ain't the discussion forum :roll:

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4370556)
Are you really thinking Punk had no clue that he would have a payoff against HHH after the months of him fighting HHH and Kane's authority? Whether he liked it or not is up to him, but it makes no sense to have Punk into the title scene without settling scores with Kane at the very least.

What are you even talking about? I'm not talking about that at all. I'm just saying Punk doesn't want to work against HHH. Which I find hilarious and think it secretly hurts HHH's feelings because he thinks he's god.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 03:35 PM

And Punk was obviously aware of the direction, he was just not happy with it.

VSG 01-30-2014 03:37 PM

I am saying that Punk would have known for ages that he would be facing HHH given his storyline, so why wait till Monday to walk out? Assuming all this is true lol.

Also, it does not matter if HHH thinks he is incredible or not- the booking done so far will need a Punk/HHH match to really culminate the storyline. I am not saying the booking was good, but that's how I see it anyway.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 03:38 PM

I would go a step further to say Punk is trying to make a stand for DB. Trying to get a feel for the story without talking to Punk is difficult but fuck it if ryan clark can rattle off made up info without naming one single source so can I.

Punk is bitter/worn out/fed up of no progression. The 1 step forward 2 steps back thinking of who calling shots. It's not as much about not being in the title hunt because Punk is smart enough to know you don't need the title to be over or sell merch. But if you are a guy who has worked 50 minutes on Sunday night with no mention or fanfare from the announce team and here comes batista out of shaped and gassed for 10 minutes of work then your friend who has busted his ass all year is backseated STILL when its obvious the direction the crowd wants is DB , then why not say F it and bail

his only direct quote was on twitter that read "the view never changes"

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 03:39 PM

But we aren't talking about the same thing at all, you're making points about my posts that I'm not talking about. He chose Monday to walk out because he obviously reached a boiling point. the HHH storyline is ONE of the things he's not happy with. It's not like he was JUST informed of it and was like "THAT'S IT I'M OUT OF HERE"

It was just one of many things obviously pissing him off. Icing on the cake was Batista getting the title shot and not Daniel Bryan.

(referencing VSG)

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4370562)
so why wait till Monday to walk out? Assuming all this is true lol.


I would think like Dale hit on, boiling point culminating with them informing him after the rumble reaction they were going to stay with their lame ass WM plans

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 03:44 PM

Yeah, I think you're missing what Dale is getting at VSG. I think Hunter's ego has probably taken a massive hit by all this, if it is true that Punk didn't see having a match with him as high enough calibre.

VSG 01-30-2014 03:54 PM

All I am saying is that HHH being butt hurt is a huge assumption. If Punk wants to be in the title scene, good for him. But where I am coming from, Punk over HHH at Wrestlemania is a worthy main event.

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 03:56 PM

Yeah, and nobody is arguing with you on that from a fan perspective.

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 03:57 PM

But HHH being butt hurt, it's HHH FFS. like I said, if it is true, I think his ego would have taken a hit, especially with all the publicity coming from all this.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4370575)
All I am saying is that HHH being butt hurt is a huge assumption.

As I said, it was pure speculation. But let's get serious, it's not like it's grasping at straws. HHH THE GAME THE CEREBRAL ASSASSIN THE KING OF KINGS gracing Punk with a match is supposed to be a big deal, and Punk said "Nah, no thanks, I'm good".

VSG 01-30-2014 04:01 PM

I guess my issue with the assumption was not just that he got butt hurt, but that he is hiding behind the "Punk was unprofessional" excuse instead.

Anyway I am thinking too much into this, fuck HHH and fuck Punk. We will just see what happens. If this all was a massive work, then good for them.

The Rogerer 01-30-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4370557)
Stop being so controversial, this ain't the discussion forum :roll:

It's a response to the people who are talking about suspending him without pay and/or BREECH OF CONTRACT on other sites. You can't threaten a man who doesn't need money.

Innovator 01-30-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4370575)
All I am saying is that HHH being butt hurt is a huge assumption. If Punk wants to be in the title scene, good for him. But where I am coming from, Punk over HHH at Wrestlemania is a worthy main event.

Punk's contract is up in July, HHH would probably go over.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 04:06 PM

Yeah but I could see him fighting Vince a little extra hard tooth and nail because of the shot to his ego, just my view on things. Regardless of the fact that HHH IS THIS BUSINESS and knows it's just business, he's a human being like the rest of us, and has a big ego, and would let that get in the way of things, I think. Especially considering Vince wants to mend fences, and what Vince says, goes.

VSG 01-30-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4370585)
Punk's contract is up in July, HHH would probably go over.

If that was the plan all along, then fuck HHH even more.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 04:12 PM

looking forward to james steele coming in here and busting out "facts" about how HHH is a god and put everyone he could over, and was a massive draw and the be all and end all of THIS BUSINESS and how CM Punk is and always was a bum.

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 04:15 PM

Remember when HHH put Booker T over? First at WM, and then when he returned from injury that time at SummerSlam.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 04:15 PM

Punk flat out said "dave is my friend but now is not the time for him to be here, its Daniel Bryan's time"

same sentiment I think for HHH, I think if it made sense and added something to the whole scheme of it he would be a team player but I think Punk sees it more for what it is

2 years ago "hey punk we are going with Cena/Rock so we are gonna give you Jericho and they are going on last not you

last year, hey same thing as last year but this time you get to have the undertaker

this year, we found another guy to come back and be in the main event so what about you and HHH on 4th?

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 04:15 PM

Sorry NormanSmiley, I'm going off topic here.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 04:16 PM

Oh and that time he gave Punk that HUGE main event rub when they feuded after Punk and Cena. I don't know why Punk wouldn't want to wrestle him after all HHH did for him in that match.

Swiss Ultimate 01-30-2014 04:16 PM

Former WWE star Matt Hardy arrested for alleged hotel brawl with wife

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 04:17 PM

Yeah honestly I'm sure Punk has no problems with HHH friend wise, they're probably perfectly cordial, but the mark in me is loving this :p

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 04:21 PM

agree Dale, for me the appeal to the story is Punk put himself in a position to say no thanks when his name can generate some buzz outside WWE and show how much the people in charge have their heads up their ass

Damian Rey 01-30-2014 04:23 PM

If true, I don't think Punk magically decided Monday would be it. He's been more than vocal in the past about part time guys/retreads coming in and taking main event spots. We know having to see Rock main event 2 years in a row didn't make him happy, but it can be argued easily that Rock was a huge deal and was "best for business" as a draw. Batista is not, and never was. He was always second fiddle to Cena, and now he comes back, with one match, and gets auto penciled into the main event. I can completely understand how that would be the tipping point for Punk.

I also would understand that the idea of working with HHH is an underwhelming one. Outside of Mr. Steele, did anyone really enjoy his matches with Lesnar. The first two bored me to the point that I didn't bother with the third. His matches with Taker weren't anything special either, and are book ended by two classics with HBK and CM Punk. Not to mention, the last time I remember Punk and H having a match, during the summer of Punk, H won with a pedigree, 1-2-3, after a clusterfuck of run ins. Then ends the show crotch chopping the hottest name in the company to end the show.

So yeah, Punk having little to no interest in a match with H is not surprising at all. I get that walking out is unprofessional, and H having his ego stepped on a bit is only natural, but he, Vince and WWE need Punk a lot more than Punk needs them. Replacing his merch sales, the live crowds that cheer him, and his ability to put on matches with just about anyone is not going to be easy, and there's no one currently on the roster in position to take his spot.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 04:31 PM

^^ well said sir. ALL excellent points

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 04:32 PM

He really just reiterated what I already said :rant: ;)

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 04:44 PM

gold stars for you both

Damian Rey 01-30-2014 05:13 PM

Can I be Gorgeous' sidekick then? "Dashing" Damian Rey? "REYdiant" Damian Rey?

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 05:15 PM

you guys immediately have more cred than 90% of tag teams in the E right now, depending on your ring attire

Damian Rey 01-30-2014 05:19 PM

I'll let Dale choose the attire. I can take the beatings then give him the hot tag to close the match.

Nark Order 01-30-2014 05:22 PM

Aw. Triple H got his feewings hurwt.

CSL 01-30-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4370612)
His matches with Taker weren't anything special either

I'm sorry, there's a lot of dumb stuff being said in this thread but this is the runaway winner

XL 01-30-2014 05:41 PM

It really should be Bryan vs. HHH at Mania anyway. Especially if a match against Sheamus is the best they can come up with.

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4370616)
He really just reiterated what I already said :rant: ;)

In a much less gorgeous way. There was no Crash Bang.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 05:45 PM

Gorgeous Dale and Dashing Damien- the stunners

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 05:48 PM

I'm just imagining HHH trying to process Punk not allowing himself to get forced into working with him.

"HE...doesn't wanna work with ME.... no that doesn't make sense.... just give me a second.... HE... doesn't wanna work with ME...." and it all manifests itself as him going "C'mon Vince he walked out, he's unprofessional we don't want him back."

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4370651)
I'm sorry, there's a lot of dumb stuff being said in this thread but this is the runaway winner

lol it's all subjective... I didn't see the first one but I wasn't particularly swept away by the hell in a cell match. It was good, but not eye popping. Though honestly I enjoyed the summerslam and extreme rules matches with Brock, but I'm a big Lesnar mark.

I do find in funny that the idea of him being butt hurt by CM Punk not wanting to work with him is so unfathomable to some. If someone didn't want to work with me I'd be pretty fucking pissed lol.

CSL 01-30-2014 05:58 PM

thought the "first" one was good, thought the HIAC match was pretty much the perfect "sports entertainment" match, had absolutely everything and could pretty much have only been performed on that level by maybe 2 or 3 other living guys not already involved in the match.

As for the other point, I'm steering clear. It's already basically become "internet fact" that Triple H is pissed off because Punk doesn't want to work with him/is one of the defining factors in him quitting WWE. All of which is still nothing but complete speculation.

CSL 01-30-2014 05:59 PM

christ I bet there are some brain-aching tweets/Youtube comments etc about this lot :'(

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 06:03 PM

Well I have no problem speculating, and honestly from everything Punk has said (he answered questions in his q and a and whatnot) it seems pretty consistent with it all.

I love wrestling and I love speculating and going along with the news, afterall it's our only window into it all. Not everything is going to be completely accurate, (see: Curtis Axel's blown out hips) but this seems somewhat cut and dry.

And it ISN'T a fact that HHH is pissed off with Punk for not wanting to work with him, I just find it fucking hilarious that Punk doesn't want to work with him, and it seems pretty logical that HHH would be butt hurt about that. There's nothing wrong with having some fun, we're all marks here at the end of the day.

Damian Rey 01-30-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4370651)
I'm sorry, there's a lot of dumb stuff being said in this thread but this is the runaway winner

Compared to the HBK series and match with Punk, the HHH series was not very good. The HITC match was better, but not on the level of those other 3. It is all subjective, but I don't dig those matches/hail them as classics like I'm sure quite a few people do. I found them to be boring, drug out signature move fests. Especially the first one. Lot of laying around going on in both, and again, in my view, particularly the first one.

CSL 01-30-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4370681)
Well I have no problem speculating, and honestly from everything Punk has said (he answered questions in his q and a and whatnot) it seems pretty consistent with it all.

I love wrestling and I love speculating and going along with the news, afterall it's our only window into it all. Not everything is going to be completely accurate, (see: Curtis Axel's blown out hips) but this seems somewhat cut and dry.

And it ISN'T a fact that HHH is pissed off with Punk for not wanting to work with him, I just find it fucking hilarious that Punk doesn't want to work with him, and it seems pretty logical that HHH would be butt hurt about that. There's nothing wrong with having some fun, we're all marks here at the end of the day.

Captain Straightcap: "It's also still speculation that Punk doesn't want to work with him" http://www.tpwwforums.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

CSL 01-30-2014 06:08 PM

tbh the "Punk doesn't want to work with him" part is probably the part I find the most difficult to believe. This has been something that has been reported online for some time now which means A. it's bollocks or B. Punk has known for quite some time now that that was the plan for him. Don't see how that equates to him suddenly becoming so disillusioned with the whole direction/program. Seems to conveniently fit the story more than anything.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4370686)
Captain Straightcap: "It's also still speculation that Punk doesn't want to work with him" http://www.tpwwforums.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Once again, logically, it's consistent with everything Punk has implied in interviews. It's not 100 per cent guaranteed, but it's more than likely the case.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4370688)
tbh the "Punk doesn't want to work with him" part is probably the part I find the most difficult to believe. This has been something that has been reported online for some time now which means A. it's bollocks or B. Punk has known for quite some time now that that was the plan for him. Don't see how that equates to him suddenly becoming so disillusioned with the whole direction/program. Seems to conveniently fit the story more than anything.

Read the damned thread :p, that's ONE of the things that was pissing him off. I think he was willing to stomach it, but everything else got to him as well and he got pushed over the edge

VSG 01-30-2014 06:17 PM

Too many speculations in here, let's just wait it out ya?

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 06:20 PM

What's the fun in that?


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