So kids just don't watch NXT

Miz to Mizdow: Fuck this.. you're it :D

FALL OF MAN!

Needs more yah.

Yah.

Nooooooobody caaaaaaaares

:(

So what I'm hearing is that Seth is trying to commit suicide

so another tease of the cash in?

They Will......

IF this ends in an RKO fest, may be a Top 3 Raw of the Year.

The Cutting Peep Show.

The vigilante hunter

One bottle for 8 people?

Bottle is probably only for one person

Just checking in to say this was a terrible raw since they said Christian is retired.

they are carrying 8 glasses.

He wants Cenas hand in marrige

Rated RKO

:lol: like Cena cares if Christian gets beaten up

Here i thought rollins was going to announce a cash in at the rumble

Sting returns now?

Until the announcers mentioned the Authority, I thought Rollins was going to demand Cena's title shot.

Yea they spoiled it. Dumbasses

Pretty sure he doesnt need it

Cena really only one that would save Edge? And The hell happened to Christian? It was like what 1 push lol

Cena hates children though Rollins

So ummm nobody is going to check up on how Christian is doing?

Unless I missed him getting carried away or leaving.

Lol what

Well that didn't last long lol

Really? That awesome of a Raw ends like that?

Survivor Series means nothing

Daniel Bryan cant catch a break

I really hate Steph as a character

Villains pose!

You've got to be kidding me

The Authority is back? I want a refund for my Survivor Series tickets.

I guess they didn't like the ratings without Triple H.

Well that was.. an interesting end.

Perfect timing to make Daniel Bryan enter in at #1 and plow his way through the RR.

Rollins was great during the whole time.

So we go from a mega high of Daniel Bryan to a mega low of The Authority back in power...

The only thing better would have been if after Cena gave in Edge got up and started celebrating finally getting one over on him

<font color=goldenrod>Bryan's announcement basically makes this show an automatic thumbs up. In general though I quite enjoyed this show, much more than any Raw in the past several months.</font>

Good match that showed Reigns in a good light for once.

That was my thought Rollins was a fantastic heel tonight

My friends and I literally jumped out of our seats at Bryans announcement.

So, any chance at all that we actually get to see Daniel Bryan win the Royal Rumble and face Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania? Honestly, I feel like that's the best route to go at this point. Reigns' return has not exactly been a knock out - I'm assuming the creative team (i.e. Vince) learned his lesson from last year's fiasco and won't try to force feed him to us ala Batista.

Probably just getting hopeful.

Best. RAW. Ever.

Daniel Bryan is back, Triple H is back, and WWE actually had characters get fleshed out and develop emotional connections with us. God bless Paul Levesque!

Reigns won Superstar of the Year. So, the fans must see something in him. DB is a good second option if Reigns can't hang.

I think youll get Rollins vs Bryan for the MITB at WM. Bryan wins ad cashes in on Lesnar after he beats Reigns.

Anybody else upset that Lilian said Konnor and Victor and not just Konnor....Victor the Ascension?

It was good but it lacked some RKO's

Anybody else notice the respect fans have for Bryan?

No "What" chants and at certain points they got totally quiet when he was trying to speak.

up until he said "I'm going to kill him anyway".... Seemed very out of place.

Really hope this is the last time we see Steph, hate how she tries to make herself look like a bad-ass over all the other divas.

I liked that, Rollins has been amazing since the Shield split.

Seemed odd to me, I would have scripted him to say "I'm gonna do it anyway"

The line works with anyone but Kurt Angle because he won an Olympic gold medal with a broken freakin' neck!

And Rollins is tremendous and one of the best heels. I seriously hope they keep him heel for the foreseeable future so he can develop the persona even more.

I feel like they will have Cena "outsmart" them first thing next week with a lawyer saying he can't make that decision under duress or some shit.

Daniel Bryan needs to win the royal rumble, make lesnar tap out at Mania to win the title, and then have a series of feuds leading to Dean Ambrose or Wyatt winning the title off of him at SummerSlam.

I think it was because of the legitimate fear/sadness that he could actually be retiring. I know I started to get emotional ala Edge/HBK/Flair retirement speeches until he teased it too much and it started dawning on me what was about to happen. If there is any doubt as to whether Daniel Bryan is a fucking SUPERSTAR, it was eliminated last night. Him saying he is wrestling again got a pop that rivaled Flair's "I'LL NEVER RETIRE!" Promo. Fans love and respect Daniel Bryan. There is an emotional connection that has been built over the past few years that can never be broken. He is a solidified permanent true main event draw. Daniel Bryan is perhaps the only babyface in WWE who bridged the gap between the casual audience and the hardcore fans. From my memories, I don't recall Washington DC being a "smarky" city so I can only imagine the reaction he'll get in Philly when he enters (and wins) the 2015 Royal Rumble. Daniel Bryan makes people happy just by wrestling, and that is something truly special.

And the best part is that his rise was natural. Sure, the yes! movement takes place across the globe, but like you said, fans just enjoy him in the ring doing what he does best.

If Vince isn't convinced that he has yanked every brass ring down, with prejudice, then he is actually out of touch and should bugger off.

Yeah but that's less ruthless and badass.

So will the authority returning change/add a stipulation to the potential Triple H vs. Sting WM match?

Maybe Sting becomes GM Vs. Triple H steps down as COO. The problem with Survivor Series is that there was nobody ready to be in Command of WWE once the authority left. At WM Sting will be standing there ready to lead.

That's what I was thinking. Makes the most sense...ish

Not a fan of Daniel Bryan's return. The annoying Yes chants, the unbearable booing of other wrestlers that aren't Daniel Bryan on the shows. The way they treated Rey Mysterio in the 2014 Royal Rumble match proved to me that Daniel Bryan is the IWC's darling.

It's pretty obvious they are going to put Roman Reigns' push on hold, to have Daniel Bryan pursue the WWE Championship once again. Which is sad, because Roman Reigns has more reason to be a WWE Champion now, than Daniel Bryan.

And now fans are going "WWE better make Daniel Bryan the champion in 2015". Why should they? Because some marks saying "we riot" everytime their darlings doesn't get a championship reign? Daniel Bryan already got a superstar level in the WWE, so he doesn't need another year. He achieved greatness by being at the top of his game and defeating to former WWE Champions in one night for the WWE Championship at WrestleMania. He doesn't need another title reign.

How many people believe rollins would actually kill him?

And as far as Edge goes, is it really necessary by the WWE to give Edge constant cheapshots at his neck problems?

Last time he was on Raw, Triple H mocked it, now we have Rollins threatening to break Edge's neck.

Is it really that necessary?

What reason(s)? Because he looks pretty? He doesn't speak very well and is somewhat turning into a Cena mold (apron dropkick, superman punch,OOO AAAHHH, spear).

He needs more character development.

Ebolarate, please. Why not?

Bryan isn't a "darling" of mine, but I do believe he is damn good at what he does and fares better than Reigns in every area.

Pretty standard WWE behaviour for WWE, even when wrestlers are active, injuries (regardless if they are scripted or legit) have always/will always be exploited. How is this different?

Hogan has knees problems, you don't see anybody going: "Yo, Hogan, i'll break your knees if you try and stop me."

If John Cena retires from injuries, I seriously doubt that the WWE will exploit his injuries.

Comparing Hogan and Edge :wtf:

For all intents and purposes, the wind can blow wrong and Hogan will be paralyzed. He isn't involved physically in anything because he can't be, period.

If you truly believe that WWE wouldn't generate cheap heel heat over a retired John Cena's injuries (hypothetically speaking of course) then you must have been watching WWE for only a couple of weeks/months. Edge is far from the first they have done this with, and will not be the last.

Vince: "Hey Edge can we make fun of your neck?"

Edge: "Yes"
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Vince: "Hey Hogan can we make fun of your knee?"

Hogan: "No"

Cesaro went straight after Barretts shoulder, its not exactly an uncommon thing to use a commonly known injury and exploit it as part of a match/angle, if Hogan has another match I would bet my last penny unless its against Hornswoggle the bearhug or a similar move would be used and they'd stress Hogans history of back surgeries.

See also Paul Bearers death, Lawlers heart attack, JRs Bells Palsy etc etc

This also seems like a realistic scenario. Hogan's ego will never die, which is understandable. He honestly believes he can "have one more run" with the title.

Will they do it to Hogan?

If he were to become an active wrestler again, yes. The only thing preventing it is Hogan's massive ego.

"HULKAMANIA BROTHER!!! DON'T SAY MEAN THINGS ABOUT ME K".

Or just reference the two posts above mine that sum things up quite well.

With the WWE being so afraid to do something wrong after that CM Punk podcast, they quickly went and retired Christian fearing from his 'concussion and injuries'. I doubt they would ever mock John Cena after he retires. They will never dare to the same thing for Hogan. Hell, they wouldn't do the same thing to Stone Cold Steve Austin about his neck injury. The certainly won't do the same to The Rock.

K, so back to the original question of why Reigns is so much more deserving or "needs" to be the champ at this point?

Because unlike Daniel Bryan, Roman Reigns hasn't been a WWE Champion. And I think he surely deserves it. I love how people complain that 'WWE never pushes new stars', but once they do, everyone gets so aggressive "why you push this guy, and not that guy..."

He needs to have better mic work before getting the belt.

I just don't think he deserves it, nothing more. He also needs more character development.

Because Batista/Brock Lesnar/Bret Hart/Lex Luger were 'oh so great' on the mic... :roll:

lol lex luger

Your first sentence speaks volumes. The WWE Championship should not be treated as a "fair game" prop. The argument that Person A should get it instead of Person B because Person A has never had it is ridiculous. It's the top prize in the world of professional wrestling - not a turn playing XBOX.

And in what way does Roman Reigns "deserve" a WWE Championship victory? Exactly what has he achieved in his time in the WWE? A "Superstar of the Year" award, the legitimacy of which is highly questionable? He's been part of the Shield, one of the top groups in several years, but his two partners have already gone on to make better, more stable, more interesting characters for themselves. Not only that, but they've proven themselves more adept in the ring than their Reigns counterpart.

How many great matches has Reigns had as a single performer? How many great promos or storylines? The answer is none.

Yes, WWE needs to push new stars. Daniel Bryan should still be considered a "new star." And he beats out Reigns in every category in question when it comes to being a WWE Superstar. Reigns will make it there one day if he continues to work hard and finds that program or gimmick or attitude that really pushes him to the next level. But he has not found that yet.

Brock and Bret are better wrestlers than reigns. Batista didn't really deserve to hold the title until his last heel run (before coming back).

Bill Goldbeg was also terrible on the mic, and with all honesty Triple H is also terrible in the ring with his slow talking promos.

I just finished watching this episode and holy fuck at Rollins' promo at the end. That was one of the most evil things I've ever seen.

Rollins was ACE 1 out of 100 Supergood all show long.

James Steele is gonna shoot someone!

You've raised the ire of James Steele for that Triple H comment(hes probably gonna go Super Saiyan when he reads it)

But yea it's not like we're saying Reigns should never get the belt he's just not ready for it,plus DB never really had a proper title run when he obtained it an incredible string of coincidences (some tragic) kept him occupied as Cena said: he never lost the belt. I'd love for Bryan to get a proper run at the top then lose it to(I can't wait) A heel Ambrose or Rollins.

Goldberg had the fans in the Palm of his hand and it took HHH years to get where he was annoying long-winded promos aside was Triple H great in the ring IMO he was just ok but unlike Reigns Goddamn could HHH bring it when called on I'll never deny him that.

There's one thing that scares me about Bryan. Is he back with no limitations, all systems go, back to full ring work? If yes, he should definitely win the Rumble. I'm afraid that Bryan might not be ready for a full return and his "rumble return" is merely a draw to increase Network buys for the month of January, meaning he won't win & probably get eliminated quickly.

Roman Reigns can't cut a promo to save his life. He's a vanilla non-midget right now.

Everybody was flooding the chat room I was in when Daniel Bryan announced he was in the Royal Rumble. What an amazing moment for the WWE.

YES! YES! YES!

Watching the last segment unfold last night with Trips and steph being brought back...I was first like huh? They just ended that story a month ago and now it makes the survivor series match look totally pointless. And it really makes Ziggler looks pointless. But then I thought about it a little more. I've personally been bored as fuck without a dominant heel group on Raw the past few weeks. I really liked the Authority on TV to be honest. And then I thought well Daniel Bryan is back now and The whole AUthority storyline was built out of his run and they never really got to conclude it with him because of the injury. And now he's back. And Orton is back and that whole ordeal with his being replaced by Seth in the authority never really got sorted out. Then Roman Reigns is back and is another huge babyface for the Authority to go against. So it makes so much sense to bring them back. I think the WWE realized they needed them back to counter all these top baby faces. So I guess it's a good move to go into Mania with.

Seth Rollins was so amazing on the mic last night. I really believe he's the next HHH of 2000. I think when he gets the belt, he's holding it for a while and that's a good thing because title matches will be amazing. Who would of thought he would be the shining star of the shield right now?

I'm not sold on REIGNS at all right now. His injury killed his heat and I think they need to slowly build him back. If they force him down everyone's throats, the audience will no doubt turn him heel, which wouldn't be bad mind you. I think he would make a better monster heel anyway. Now that Bryan is back, he's really going to get left behind as a babyface.

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Batista was fantastic when he was Kanyeista. Check out his "kissing babies and hugging fat girls" promo against Cena. It was the pipe bomb before THE Pipebomb.

Bret was very good getting his points across.

Lex was decent in the 80s with his promos as a heel and a face. He was pretty good against the nWo except for one flub.

Brock didn't have to be good on the mic because he was an NCAA Wrestling champion. Reigns is a former football player he doesn't have the wrestling down yet either. Brock also had more stage presence as a rookie than Reigns has in his 2-3 years into the business.

The fact you said that Triple H is horrible in the ring and on the mic tells me that you don't know a great wrestler worthy of main eventing from your butthole. Your opinions are hereby moot and you are eternally dead to me as long as you remain in your current mental state. I have enjoyed your posts until this thread, and I have helped countless others see the light when it comes to Triple H. I hope my continued mission of spreading the message of Triple H's greatness will someday turn your blackened and hardened heart into a vibrant loving HHHeart of wisdom and joy.

That whole Raw was really good.

I have no problem with the return of The Authority, because as Loose Cannon said, there are a lot of things that can still be concluded there. Also, do you guys remember once The Authority lost power, Vince said to them "we're going to fix this"? Well, they fixed it. It makes Seth Rollins even more valuable in their eyes (more valuable than Randy Orton had been for them). Big Show is looking awesome here, too. Nothing was taken away from the Survivor Series match. It's just being shown that The Authority is going to be a lot harder than one match to take down. I'm very interested in what happens next, which is good.

I wish they would have touched on the alleged alliance between Seth Rollins and Paul Heyman/Brock Lesnar, but there's still time for that.

I also want to say that the Ziggler/Rusev match was really, really, really fucking good. Rusev has been awesome, and Ziggler is just incredibly fun to watch.

Also, The Miz is killing it right now. For real.

I worry that Bryan is going to be eliminated by a pissed off heel and be pigeon-held into a random upper mid-card WrestleMania match, but now that he is back, the best storyline the WWE can run is Brock Lesnar vs. the man who never lost the belt, Daniel Bryan. The crowd will get behind Bryan so easily, whereas Reigns is only going to have manufactured momentum, and I can see the crowd turning on it fairly quickly.

Cena can face Reigns in a "passing the torch" type match. Bryan making Lesnar tap-out to close WrestleMania would be pretty epic.