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Triple A 09-13-2016 09:30 PM

Damn... SmackDown being 2 hours really does psychologically have a huge impact... Feels like if there was still an hour and a half of this left I would feel really negative... but feeling pretty positive...

GD 09-13-2016 09:30 PM

It is all about the quality control, baby.

Lock Jaw 09-13-2016 09:31 PM

\_0__/

slik 09-13-2016 09:31 PM

Can Heath Slater's fanbase be called his "kids"

KIRA 09-13-2016 09:32 PM

Finally somebody said it Bray is all talk

Triple A 09-13-2016 09:32 PM

this sucks

ClockShot 09-13-2016 09:32 PM

Oh. Orton's ready for a fight.

So has WWE's quack doctor cleared him?

Triple A 09-13-2016 09:33 PM

k cool thought he was gonna keep talking for like 5 mins...

Savio 09-13-2016 09:33 PM

Why is this Jobber still feuding with Orton?

slik 09-13-2016 09:33 PM

Bray probably just got pinned by the camera guy

Emperor Smeat 09-13-2016 09:33 PM

So is Bray going to pull a Freddy Krugger if Orton sleeps?

Also this feud would be really great had the WWE not constantly make Bray lose almost every big match.

Lock Jaw 09-13-2016 09:34 PM

JBL "perfectly calm" at Bray Wyatt magically appearing in front of him

KIRA 09-13-2016 09:34 PM

Comon Harper

Savio 09-13-2016 09:35 PM

Can't even randomly attack people correctly anymore.

ClockShot 09-13-2016 09:35 PM

Cool. New ring gear for Rowan.

slik 09-13-2016 09:35 PM

much better jumpsuit for Rowan

owenbrown 09-13-2016 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4860116)
Bray probably just got pinned by the camera guy

no by the merch vendor in the lobby

RP 09-13-2016 09:37 PM

Bray Wyatt vs the Hot dog Vendor

Big push for the Hot Dog Vendor.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 09:37 PM

What PPV was that where The Usos and Harper/Rowan opened the show with an absolute BANGER? I was trying to remember so I could rewatch on the Network later. Money in the Bank or something?

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 4860124)
Bray Wyatt vs the Hot dog Vendor

Big push for the Hot Dog Vendor.


"I am the vendor that runs this center! I'm going to kick your buns!"

Savio 09-13-2016 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4860125)
What PPV was that where The Usos and Harper/Rowan opened the show with an absolute BANGER? I was trying to remember so I could rewatch on the Network later. Money in the Bank or something?

I think it was one of the battle grounds maybe? Hard to remember when they move the PPVs around so much.

ClockShot 09-13-2016 09:41 PM

Hope Styles' partner is a surprise.

Can't be Braun Victim #5.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 09:41 PM

Last night was the first time I noticed the lights in AJ's entrance ticking with the beat of his theme song. Dunno if they have always been doing that, but I think it's really cool.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4860127)
I think it was one of the battle grounds maybe? Hard to remember when they move the PPVs around so much.

That sounds correct. Thanks. :y:

Dark One 09-13-2016 09:42 PM

What a time to be alive.

Savio 09-13-2016 09:42 PM

Yeah fuck you james!

owenbrown 09-13-2016 09:42 PM

MIZ!

KIRA 09-13-2016 09:42 PM

Oh god gonna form a super team

Emperor Smeat 09-13-2016 09:42 PM

Poor what's his name, didn't even get a chance to main event a WWE show.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 09:42 PM

The Miz is that dude right now.

Triple A 09-13-2016 09:42 PM

booooooooooo

ClockShot 09-13-2016 09:43 PM

The Miz.

Alright. Let's do this.

KIRA 09-13-2016 09:43 PM

YES

Mercenary 09-13-2016 09:43 PM

Ok Miz is great just saying

Evil Vito 09-13-2016 09:43 PM

Lol, Curt Hawkins' WWE re-debut was just a backstage segment.

slik 09-13-2016 09:43 PM

This tag match should be sweet

Simple Fan 09-13-2016 09:44 PM

Miz and Styles is good teaming. Been a good Smackdown Live.

KIRA 09-13-2016 09:44 PM

SD is Crushing.

Better belts

way more streamlined show

Heath SLATER

slik 09-13-2016 09:44 PM

RIP James Ellsworth...I was about to join the James Ellsworth World Order...when you are JEWO you are JEWO 4 Lyfe

Emperor Smeat 09-13-2016 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4860130)
That sounds correct. Thanks. :y:

Might be Battlegrounds 2014 which was a Best 2 out of 3 match according to ProFightDB.com

Mercenary 09-13-2016 09:47 PM

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6c&oe=587BFA4C

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4860147)
Might be Battlegrounds 2014 which was a Best 2 out of 3 match according to ProFightDB.com

That's exactly it.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 09:50 PM

David Otunga is already making great strides on commentary. Already better than Saxton.

owenbrown 09-13-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercenary (Post 4860149)

Just saw that on Facebook :lol:

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 09:56 PM

Remember when everyone was sure that Miz would be Jannetty to Morrison's Michaels?

Evil Vito 09-13-2016 09:57 PM

A few segments late here but...holy hell does Erick Rowan need an overhaul. Somehow WWE managed to make a scary looking 6'8" dude less intimidating than Virgil.

owenbrown 09-13-2016 09:58 PM

goddammit, Super Cena didn't need that win

owenbrown 09-13-2016 09:58 PM

DEAN. FUCKING. AMBROSE.

Emperor Smeat 09-13-2016 09:59 PM

Heel turn or Ambrose dealing with a sudden case of Lunaticitis?

Lock Jaw 09-13-2016 10:00 PM

Ambrose showing Cena no mercy

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4860161)
Heel turn or Ambrose dealing with a sudden case of Lunaticitis?

Neither. Cena was talking hella shit about Ambrose earlier in the show and he's also one of his opponents at No Mercy. Cena should have seen that coming.

KIRA 09-13-2016 10:01 PM

Love the blue sideplates too

KIRA 09-13-2016 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4860157)
Remember when everyone was sure that Miz would be Jannetty to Morrison's Michaels?

To be fair Morrison has been great in LU

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4860165)
To be fair Morrison has been great in LU

Oh no doubt. I've always been a big Morrison fan. Still am. My main point was that The Miz has come a really long way.

Simple Fan 09-13-2016 10:17 PM

Smackdown continues to put out better shows than Raw and should pay off with football season starting back.

Miz is killing it right now and I'd like to see him keep the IC title for a while. Not really a whole lot other contenders out there for him other than Ziggler right now. Interested to see what Miz's contract demands are.

Styles should come out winner at No Mercy taking advantage of Cena and Ambrose beating the shot out of one another(they don't want none). I have no problem with Dena going for number 16 but I hope he fails a few times and they stretch it out. Could hold it off til Wrestkemania.

Ready to see the Women's and Tag divisions get going now that the have titles. Lynch vs Bliss is a good first match for Becky. I'm glad Slater finally got signed and they didn't just throw the titles on a NXT call up team.

Looks like they realized they left Smackdown a little to dry and have moved Swagger over. Swagger has always been one of my favorites and I love the We the People gimmick. Would like to see Axle make the jump to Smack down as well.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 10:18 PM

Maryse is so fucking hot.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 10:20 PM

I keep hearing people mention that they love Swagger's "WE THE PEOPLE" gimmick, but what gimmick is that? He says the catch phrase and he literally does nothing else but job out.

Innovator 09-13-2016 10:22 PM

God damn Alexa Bliss

Triple A 09-13-2016 10:23 PM

Did they ever explain away all the extremely racist things he and his manager were saying about Mexican people

Maybe those people like his "gimmick" from back when he was doing that

Dark One 09-13-2016 10:24 PM

Interesting character development for both Dean Ambrose and John Cena. Hopefully will make Dean Ambrose a bigger, more popular star.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4860174)
Did they ever explain away all the extremely racist things he and his manager were saying about Mexican people

Maybe those people like his "gimmick" from back when he was doing that

They never really explained anything. His racism basically turned him babyface, though.

I still don't understand what the fuck that Mexamerica shit was supposed to mean either.

I ALSO don't understand why Baron Corbin backed down from him.

I ALSO don't understand why Swagger was so goofy in that promo.

I ALSO don't understand why he was wearing a backwards hat.

I used to love Swagger. Not so much since the Colter pairing.

Triple A 09-13-2016 10:31 PM

Yeah when I first started watching again, really had no idea who most people were and felt extremely confused when Jack Swagger and Zeb Colter seemed to have a gimmick where they said extremely racist things, and they were seemingly supposed to be "faces"...

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 10:31 PM

Also, I think I'm going to officially jump on board as a Baron Corbin fan. I never thought I'd say that a year ago.

DukesOfKaos 09-13-2016 10:34 PM

miz was always better what morrison promo have u ever herd u gonna look back 10 years from now and go damn that was great

Emperor Smeat 09-13-2016 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4860174)
Did they ever explain away all the extremely racist things he and his manager were saying about Mexican people

Maybe those people like his "gimmick" from back when he was doing that

Not really. Think like ABT said, he just randomly turned face because of the MexiAmerica stuff taking over.

There was a promo one time where him and Zeb Colter basically went out of character saying they didn't actually hate Mexicans but that was more of a response to Glenn Beck and Tea Party criticisms of the gimmick.

Evil Vito 09-13-2016 10:37 PM

I hope they actually try to give a shit about Swagger this time. If they're gonna go back to jobbing him out constantly they may as well release him, because they feel the need to mention every match of his that he's a former World Heavyweight champion.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukesOfKaos (Post 4860183)
miz was always better what morrison promo have u ever herd u gonna look back 10 years from now and go damn that was great

I always liked The Miz. Being paired with him is what pushed Morrison to show any sort of personality at all.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 10:38 PM

Crazy that they are both products of Tough Enough.

Simple Fan 09-13-2016 10:42 PM

Fans eat the We the People chant up. USA#1 who wouldn't? Just needs to get some wins and have some decent programs. Would have been better if he could win the US title but he makes a good IC challenger for the Miz down the line. Not sure I'd want him winning it though, kind of want Miz to break the record for longest IC reign.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2016 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4860189)
Fans eat the We the People chant up. USA#1 who wouldn't? Just needs to get some wins and have some decent programs. Would have been better if he could win the US title but he makes a good IC challenger for the Miz down the line. Not sure I'd want him winning it though, kind of want Miz to break the record for longest IC reign.

I understand that people eat it up. But why? You said you enjoy the "gimmick". But what's the gimmick? It's just a catchphrase. People will chant anything.

Emperor Smeat 09-13-2016 10:52 PM

http://66.media.tumblr.com/bffdb1062...ljrzo1_540.gif

Simple Fan 09-13-2016 10:56 PM

Patriotic I guess. I really liked Zeb but think their best time together was with Cesaro. Think he needs to find a good tag partner, maybe Shelton Benjamin if he ever gets cleared.

DAMN iNATOR 09-13-2016 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4860172)
I keep hearing people mention that they love Swagger's "WE THE PEOPLE" gimmick, but what gimmick is that? He says the catch phrase and he literally does nothing else but job out.

Über-patriotic guy, I guess. Doesn't take much to get ANY US(A #1! :shifty: ) crowd to start being all "'MURICA! FUCK YEAH!".

KIRA 09-13-2016 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4860205)
Über-patriotic guy, I guess. Doesn't take much to get ANY US(A #1! :shifty: ) crowd to start being all "'MURICA! FUCK YEAH!".

I know right?Idiots.

Anybody Thrilla 09-14-2016 12:00 AM

When was the last time Swagger even did anything remotely patriotic? The Rusev "feud"?

Simple Fan 09-14-2016 12:46 AM

He's a real American.

Anybody Thrilla 09-14-2016 12:47 AM

So you don't even know why you like him. Got it.

Simple Fan 09-14-2016 12:54 AM

How do you even come to that conclusion? Dude is solid in the ring and has a gimmick people can get behind. You asked when was the last time he did something patriotic well he was announced as a Real American on Raw and We the People is as patriotic as it gets.

Anybody Thrilla 09-14-2016 01:07 AM

What has the fucking character done that could be deemed as patriotic lately? Fuck.

Anybody Thrilla 09-14-2016 01:10 AM

Nothing he has done lately should make you think he's still doing the patriotic gimmick outside of saying the fucking catchphrase. Why do I want to punch you?

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-14-2016 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4860188)
Crazy that they are both products of Tough Enough.

Not really. Miz's Tough Enough was just segments on Smackdown. Don't think they ever lived together.

Lock Jaw 09-14-2016 01:11 AM

Kind of miss Swagger's old theme

Lock Jaw 09-14-2016 01:12 AM

Love his current one, but feel like it has been "ruined" via being associated with Jobber Jack for so long......

Simple Fan 09-14-2016 01:19 AM

Every time the guy says We the People and places his hand on his heart, that's patriotic. Is it not? The guy hasn't done anything since Rusev and tonight was the first time he's got to show any character and I liked what I seen.

Dewidi 09-14-2016 01:38 AM

Can someone explain to me how an styles can even be in the title hunt much less champ I'm starting to wonder about the wwe first Kevin Owens now styles. Its as bad as tna

Volare 09-14-2016 01:39 AM

......What?

hb2k 09-14-2016 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukesOfKaos (Post 4860183)
miz was always better what morrison promo have u ever herd u gonna look back 10 years from now and go damn that was great

To be fair, what Miz match have you ever watched and thought the same thing.

As for promos, I do like Miz a lot, but it's not as if he's got a catalogue of all-time great promos to his name like the best do. People usually refer to the same three things - the WrestleMania music video that was made for him, the one promo on Raw when he started backstage and walked to the ring talking about being treated like shit, and the one on Daniel Bryan.

Droford 09-14-2016 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4860101)
James is looking for a Smackdown Live contract so he can afford chin implants.

Slaters shirt but make it I got no Chin / I need this job

Mr. Nerfect 09-14-2016 06:48 AM

So Jack Swagger is going to be given a shot on SmackDown. Do you think they'll put him over Baron Corbin, or is this just a change of scenery for Jobber Jack? I hope he brings in his hot wife to face off with The Miz's hot wife. It's just missing Karl Anderson with his Hot Asian Wife.

Did Curt Hawkins return? I thought that was supposed to be a thing? At this point they might as well keep putting it off, because then at least people will know that he is a heel.

I like John Cena and Dean Ambrose both going for the title. These are pretty much In Your House shows, so they're kind of there to spin the wheels, and the match itself will be amazing.

I guess Alexa Bliss is the #1 Contender for the Women's Championship. It would have made more sense to give it to Natalya to close her feud with Becky, but I suppose that will keep until the Survivor Series, and they need to strike while people are still raving about Alexa Bliss' look. I still expect Nikki Bella vs. Carmella to be added.

Heath Slater & Rhyno defending the Tag Team Titles a lot is the way to go. They have to look like fighting champs and cram a few defenses in before they drop the belts to The Usos at No Mercy. I imagine that Rhyno will then turn on Slater and we'll get The Man Beast putting The Red Dragon over during the winter months.

Mr. Nerfect 09-14-2016 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4860235)
What has the fucking character done that could be deemed as patriotic lately? Fuck.

He is announced as being a Real American, puts his hand over his chest so that every American within the sound of the ring announcer's voice rises and says along with them "We the People." He's the modern day Jim Duggan, except instead of winning the first-ever Royal Rumble he's a "former World Heavyweight Champion."

Mr. Nerfect 09-14-2016 06:55 AM

He's an American guy like John Cena is an American guy or Hulk Hogan was an American guy or JBL was an American guy or Bubba Ray Dudley was an American guy. If a rotten heel says something bad about America, you can bet Jack Swagger isn't too far from the scene to lose to whoever insults his great nation.

Ruien 09-14-2016 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4860237)
Nothing he has done lately should make you think he's still doing the patriotic gimmick outside of saying the fucking catchphrase. Why do I want to punch you?

I think his last actually feud was with DEl Rio and that guy on in the wheel chair. He was all pro American there.

To be fair, he hasn't been in a actual feud since. Kind of hard to have a gimmick when you come out once every two months to job to someone.

owenbrown 09-14-2016 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hb2k (Post 4860258)
To be fair, what Miz match have you ever watched and thought the same thing.

As for promos, I do like Miz a lot, but it's not as if he's got a catalogue of all-time great promos to his name like the best do. People usually refer to the same three things - the WrestleMania music video that was made for him, the one promo on Raw when he started backstage and walked to the ring talking about being treated like shit, and the one on Daniel Bryan.

You forgot the week after he cashed in MITB and won the title which involved showing reaction shots of "Miz girl" being pissed off.

owenbrown 09-14-2016 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4860278)
I think his last actually feud was with DEl Rio and that guy on in the wheel chair. He was all pro American there.

To be fair, he hasn't been in a actual feud since. Kind of hard to have a gimmick when you come out once every two months to job to someone.

How in the hell do people forget Zeb Coulter's name?

Funky Fly is back 09-14-2016 12:59 PM

woah calm down there mate

Anybody Thrilla 09-14-2016 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4860278)
I think his last actually feud was with DEl Rio and that guy on in the wheel chair. He was all pro American there.

To be fair, he hasn't been in a actual feud since. Kind of hard to have a gimmick when you come out once every two months to job to someone.

His most recent promo had very little to do with patriotism outside of the chant. The one from yesterday.

Anybody Thrilla 09-14-2016 01:07 PM

In fact, he mentioned The Rolling Stones (UK) and having a hot wife (JPN).

Anybody Thrilla 09-14-2016 01:09 PM

He also mentioned 'being a problem' (ISIS).

Big Vic 09-14-2016 01:09 PM

Let's not look to far into a shitty Jack Swagger promo.

Anybody Thrilla 09-14-2016 01:09 PM

Not very American to me. He's just trying to leech off of something's previous popula--...

Oh, now I get it.


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