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Droford 07-17-2017 10:06 PM

It'd be funny if Dixie Carter still showed up

RP 07-17-2017 10:06 PM

Is he The Bastard Jason Jordan?

Lock Jaw 07-17-2017 10:07 PM

Wonder how long until the illegitimate son of Kurt Angle thing is dropped.......

#1-norm-fan 07-17-2017 10:07 PM

Cool that Jason Jordan is getting such a push (presumably).

lol @ American Alpha splitting up already though.

rez 07-17-2017 10:07 PM

If this doesn't lead to some kind of Bastard Bowl..fuck you, Vince. fuck you

Shisen Kopf 07-17-2017 10:08 PM

It should have been Hornswoggle

slik 07-17-2017 10:08 PM

Wait, that was it?!

LOL

Evil Vito 07-17-2017 10:08 PM

Pretty bummed that Alpha never really got out of the box on the main roster. Their tag title run was uneventful.

But hopefully this will lead to something good for Jordan.

I'd like to think SmackDown will get somebody in trade but more than likely they'll just not bother addressing that.

Droford 07-17-2017 10:10 PM

They need to do Jordan's theme so the crowd can chant you suck with it

slik 07-17-2017 10:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ummmmm..... what?</p>&mdash; Chad Gable (@WWEGable) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGable/status/887130862181076993">July 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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#1-norm-fan 07-17-2017 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4992108)
Pretty bummed that Alpha never really got out of the box on the main roster. Their tag title run was uneventful.

But hopefully this will lead to something good for Jordan.

I'd like to think SmackDown will get somebody in trade but more than likely they'll just not bother addressing that.

Maybe it's all a ruse and Angle is just taking advantage of the little known "If a wrestler ends up being an illegitimate child of a GM, he/she is automatically assigned to that brand" rule.

RP 07-17-2017 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4992109)
They need to do Jordan's theme so the crowd can chant you suck with it

You . suck dick.
You suck big donkey dick dick dick dick
you. suck dick.
You suck big donkey dick dick dick dick

rez 07-17-2017 10:12 PM

Break the Hardyz. Save this shit show.

Lock Jaw 07-17-2017 10:12 PM

SAY YEAH

Droford 07-17-2017 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4992110)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ummmmm..... what?</p>&mdash; Chad Gable (@WWEGable) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGable/status/887130862181076993">July 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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They seem to have a thing for not telling people things lately

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4992108)
I'd like to think SmackDown will get somebody in trade but more than likely they'll just not bother addressing that.

Watch it be something stupid like how Cena suddenly became a free agent while nobody else was for the Shakeup stuff. Took weeks for the WWE to offer a reason and even then it still made little sense.

Droford 07-17-2017 10:13 PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Jordan

Quote:

Nathan Everhart[1] (born September 28, 1988)[1] is an American professional wrestler and former amateur wrestler. He is signed to WWE, where he performs on the SmackDown brand under the ring name Jason Jordan and is one half of the tag team American Alpha along with Chad Gable, where they are the former SmackDown Tag Team Champions. Kurt Angle slept with a black woman and then Jason Jordan came out


RP 07-17-2017 10:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jeez!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash">#RAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/vEdGKzRUXG">pic.twitter.com/vEdGKzRUXG</a></p>&mdash; Amin Ajani (@AminAjani) <a href="https://twitter.com/AminAjani/status/887124139504525313">July 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Droford 07-17-2017 10:16 PM

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slik 07-17-2017 10:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kurt Angle during his final date with Jason Jordan's mom apparently <a href="https://t.co/co2NO5Z0Tf">pic.twitter.com/co2NO5Z0Tf</a></p>&mdash; Matt Fowler (@TheMattFowler) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMattFowler/status/887131970655989762">July 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Droford 07-17-2017 10:22 PM

Jason Jordan's thing is he's now "gold blooded"

rez 07-17-2017 10:25 PM

i wonder what karen thinks of all this. the true reason behind the marriage problems? Jason Jordan - Jeff Jarrett. JJs.

nah this is just stupid as shit. dixie must be booking.

Droford 07-17-2017 10:28 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">maybe i didnt make my hints clear enough. i had been trying to tell you all for a month now. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash">#RAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/8fC9JF6Izj">pic.twitter.com/8fC9JF6Izj</a></p>&mdash; james mckenna (@chillhartman) <a href="https://twitter.com/chillhartman/status/887130988446457857">July 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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RP 07-17-2017 10:28 PM

Apparently a guy cant make a thread about Poit's death on this forum. Fuck this shit

Dark One 07-17-2017 10:31 PM

"Any qualms with stepping into the Big Dog's yard?"

https://media.giphy.com/media/14smAwp2uHM3Di/giphy.gif

slik 07-17-2017 10:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sitting backstage at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash">#RAW</a> on my 5yrs with <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a>... Happy Anniversary to me! ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAWNashville?src=hash">#RAWNashville</a></p>&mdash; EMMA (@EmmaWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/EmmaWWE/status/887137853234450435">July 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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KIRA 07-17-2017 10:35 PM

If we're doing hidden family members WWE fucked up not having Darren Young come out as Cena's brother from another mother

slik 07-17-2017 10:36 PM

OH NO, I figured it out! Kurt being GM will now be a 'conflict of interest'

Sigh...welcome back Steph to weekly emasculating promos.

Droford 07-17-2017 10:39 PM

Big fight dog

Droford 07-17-2017 10:39 PM

I should go to raw next week..hmm

slik 07-17-2017 10:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE was warned that more potential superstar video and photo leaks were on the way. Jesus.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/887107666237173760">July 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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ClockShot 07-17-2017 10:40 PM

Turned it off for a bit and I come back to find American Alpha broken up because of another one of Vince's bastard son storylines.

rez 07-17-2017 10:41 PM

fart music

ClockShot 07-17-2017 10:41 PM

OOH AH OOH AH OOH AH OOH AH!

slik 07-17-2017 10:41 PM

I remember I was excited when American Alpha and The Revival got called to the main roster...feel like neither team has/did really anything noteworthy

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2017 10:44 PM

If Joe and Reigns were to headbutt each other, would that cancel out the move's effect for both guys?

Dark One 07-17-2017 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4992148)
If Joe and Reigns were to headbutt each other, would that cancel out the move's effect for both guys?

Roman Reigns is only 50% Samoan. Joe wins the headbutt battle.

ClockShot 07-17-2017 10:49 PM

Jesus, Joe is sweating bullets.

Bad News Gertner 07-17-2017 10:52 PM

Did Kurt Angle and Sapphire have a son or something?

RP 07-17-2017 10:53 PM

Joe was sweating in Reigns mouth for 5 minutes.

RP 07-17-2017 10:58 PM

almost Braun time!

ClockShot 07-17-2017 11:00 PM

Gettin' close.

ClockShot 07-17-2017 11:00 PM

BRAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!

RP 07-17-2017 11:00 PM

BRAUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2017 11:00 PM

http://i.imgur.com/qJA8l7u.gif

ClockShot 07-17-2017 11:00 PM

I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!

Triple A 07-17-2017 11:01 PM

Triple threat @ SummerSlam I guess

Droford 07-17-2017 11:02 PM

Reigns wins via dq faces Lesnar

Joe vs Braun

Lock Jaw 07-17-2017 11:02 PM

Four Way at Summerslam I guess

Emperor Smeat 07-17-2017 11:02 PM

Wonder if Reigns regrets trying to murder Strowman or at least not finishing the job at Great Balls.

rez 07-17-2017 11:03 PM

I start watching to see Joe and Roman raping Braun? man, fuck this raw

owenbrown 07-17-2017 11:03 PM

please be fatal four way at SummerSlam

rez 07-17-2017 11:04 PM

nevermind. leave it to Braun and Bliss to be the saving graces of this shit show once again.

RP 07-17-2017 11:04 PM

I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lock Jaw 07-17-2017 11:05 PM

Next week:

Kurt Angle: Well, the situation that ended RAW is an unusual one, and leaves a big question as to who will fight Brock Lesnar at Summerslam. So, let me clear that up right now. At Summerslam, Brock Lesnar will fight....... MY SON JASON JORDAN!

Droford 07-17-2017 11:06 PM

Now everyone wAnts Braun vs Lesnar

rez 07-17-2017 11:07 PM

I thought Vince cancelled Talking Raw/Smackdown?

Dark One 07-17-2017 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4992172)
Now everyone wAnts Braun vs Lesnar

I think that's been the case for a while.

RP 07-17-2017 11:07 PM

I want Braun vs everyone.

RP 07-17-2017 11:08 PM

I want WWE to start buying abandoned houses and let Braun go in there and rip the house to shreds until it collapses.

rez 07-17-2017 11:08 PM

GFW/TNA probably could have put on a better show tonight than RAW. yeesh

Dark One 07-17-2017 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 4992175)
I want Braun vs everyone.

They should replace Summerslam with a 60 on 1 Gauntlet match where Braun Strowman murders everyone.

Dark One 07-17-2017 11:10 PM

Really disappointed that Renee didn't go full Kanye and open up with "Vince McMahon doesn't care about Talking Smack."

Lock Jaw 07-17-2017 11:10 PM

Jason Jordan's lapel mic put on facing downwards.........

Lock Jaw 07-17-2017 11:11 PM

Yet somehow picking up all his breathing.......

Dark One 07-17-2017 11:11 PM

"I thought, 'well god damn, no wonder I was so fucking good at collegiate wrestling.'"

Ezra 07-17-2017 11:14 PM

Jason has some damn good acting chops.

Volare 07-18-2017 12:05 AM

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/J2x7K8mi9Dg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Tom Guycott 07-18-2017 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4991883)
It's me

Aw, sonouva BITCH!!!

Volare 07-18-2017 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4992140)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE was warned that more potential superstar video and photo leaks were on the way. Jesus.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/887107666237173760">July 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Rut ro.....

Tom Guycott 07-18-2017 01:06 AM

Hm. Did Mustafa Ali have to shave because people thought he was the Kingslayer?

Also, there seems to be great effort taken by the production and camera team to frame Big Cass coming down the ramp so that he never, ever, ever blocks that "C" again.

Emperor Smeat 07-18-2017 01:35 AM

Balor revealed how badly he was cut by The Dirfter's guitar shot on RAW. Also got a few smaller cuts on his back from the broken wood pieces.


Tom Guycott 07-18-2017 01:36 AM

"This is uncomfortable to watch." :shows replays repeatedly:

Volare 07-18-2017 01:52 AM

Reading all the stupid comments and people bitching about the Jordan/Angle segment....then I read this golden one, and now I wanna see where this goes.


"Jason turning heel in the upcoming future revealing he tricked kurt would be good."

Kurt shoves the rocket up his ass and bam after he wins one of the 2 titles he flips.

Tom Guycott 07-18-2017 02:05 AM

Note here: I'm watching the show late with help from the interwebs.

Wait... this is the push for the Jason Jordan isn't it? Once he said "I had a son..." this is where I saw this going.

I get they've been super hot on this guy since way back in NXT (split off from Tye Dillinger to supposedly get a singles push that didn't really happen, then got teamed with Gable), but really? Kurt Angle's illegitimate kid? This doesn't seem like it's going to work out for him unless it ends up being a long con swerve that they can get angle miles out of for a heel turn somewhere.

Also, WWE goes too much back & forth with kayfabe family members. People are brothers but then not brothers then brothers again until it's stupid, daughters use their father's name now, but not next week (plural; I don't just mean Charlotte, but also Nattie and Tamina), and I wonder how long this will last until the mandate comes down from Vince to stop pretending Jason is Angle's love child.

We'll see how it goes, but I'm honestly less than enthused. Not necessarily because Jason was underwhelmingly anticlimactic, but- well, that too- but also seems to be another "We want you to like *this* guy specifically and immediately" tactic they've foisted onto Roman Reigns and Baron Corbin.

At least it wasn't Dixie Carter. Or Hornswoggle. Or Vickie Guerrero.

Side note: guess Angle likes the brown sugar, even in pretend storylines.

Tom Guycott 07-18-2017 02:12 AM

"I got the best seat in the house!"

No, Booker. The announce desk is eight miles away now. You got what amounts to cheap seats. And you can't even compensate by watching the Titantron.

Tom Guycott 07-18-2017 02:34 AM

As much as we have ample opportunities to shit on the lousy commentary, there are times where it's good.

As much gold Cory Graves brings to the (figurative and literal) table, there are times where the other two show what they can do in spite of headset commands.

Cole: "HOW DO YOU STOP BRAWN STROWMAN?!"
Booker T: "... you don't."

That little, simple exchange cemented a lot of credibility into Brawn. No made up words or catch prhases. Two simple little words with great timing and delivery did plenty.

Tom Guycott 07-18-2017 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4992153)
Did Kurt Angle and Sapphire have a son or something?

That bit about him not really liking "the blacks" is apparently an untruth.

Some random college broad and Rhaka Khan are the only ones we're aware of. Kurt might have gotten some VIP service from Godfather back in the day, with special requests for dark meat...

James Steele 07-18-2017 06:20 AM

Team Angle Redux with Angle, Jordan, and Shelton Benjamin.

#BROKEN Hasney 07-18-2017 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4992205)
That bit about him not really liking "the blacks" is apparently an untruth.

Some random college broad and Rhaka Khan are the only ones we're aware of. Kurt might have gotten some VIP service from Godfather back in the day, with special requests for dark meat...

Sharmell "molested" him too.

Ruien 07-18-2017 08:11 AM

Meh. Best way to get a new talent over is by putting him with Angle assuming they stop making Angle out to be some square in a suit.

Big Vic 07-18-2017 08:45 AM

He was born in 1988... Kurt probably hooked up with Ebony from GLOW.

Frank Drebin 07-18-2017 09:24 AM

WELFARE QUEEN IS THE MOTHER!!!

Stickman 07-18-2017 12:04 PM

This illegitimate son thing is retarded, I actually cringed "irl." After Summerslam I am cancelling my network. If it was an actual truth and real life I would be ok wih it. But stuff like this is why being a wwe fan is embarrassing. This isn't as bad as Vince being the Higher Power but it is close.

Evil Vito 07-18-2017 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 4992291)
If it was an actual truth and real life I would be ok wih it.

95% of entertainment features made up stories. Have fun watching only documentaries.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-18-2017 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4992298)
95% of entertainment features made up stories. Have fun watching only documentaries.

Its still stupid tho lol

erickman 07-18-2017 02:01 PM

they need to bring back Jackie as the mom

Vastardikai 07-18-2017 02:21 PM

Well, it DOES explain that storyline with Sharmelle...

Volare 07-18-2017 02:21 PM

Word.

http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content...owbacks_22.jpg

Poit 07-18-2017 02:46 PM

Reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.

slik 07-18-2017 03:34 PM

Poit is a zombie. The only way to stop him is to give him head. I mean cut off his head.

Big Vic 07-18-2017 03:45 PM

Which one?

Tom Guycott 07-18-2017 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 4992232)
Sharmell "molested" him too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickman (Post 4992314)
they need to bring back Jackie as the mom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare (Post 4992320)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4992319)
Well, it DOES explain that storyline with Sharmelle...

I forgot about the Sharmell thing. Haha.

Any excuse for Jacqueline... even though I can never get over thinking of a) Mavin winking at her, and b) "SHE JEFF JARRETT('s) HOE!!!" from New Jack. "You ever notice whereever Jeff Jarrett went, Jackie went, too?!"

On topic: Alicia Fox needs to stop fucking around with Noam Dar and ACH... oops, I mean Cedric Alexander ["...in the event of a ' that was racist' chant, you can suck my dick!"] and take her tall, crazy, fine ass to the waiting arms of an Olympic hero.

Mr. Nerfect 07-19-2017 07:52 AM

Holy shit, they actually made Jason Jordan Kurt Angle's son?!? Hahahaha! I can't even put into words my thoughts on this. I'll give it a shot.

It's dumb, but it's dumb in this way that the Attitude era wasn't even dumb. It's dumb in a half-assed "eat up this shit" sort of way. Not offensively dumb, like some of the stuff that TNA and WWE do regularly do to insult your intelligence, but just this real soft-serving of "we really don't give a fuck."

Anyone can do a Google search and work out this shit isn't real. I don't know how people are expecting to bite onto this. Give this time and distance, and this will be more WCW's Giant being the son of Andre than Taker & Kane or Edge & Christian being brothers. There was some mystique behind the Kane stuff, and there's that supernatural element there that was embedded by the time the internet really took off in the same way. When you debut playing brothers, it's just one of them rasslin' things. Whatever. It's the attempt at soap opera and emotion that is really cringy about this.

That they saddled Kurt Angle with some much zany shit is part of the reason he was never the draw he could have been, and now they are going to do the same to Jason Jordan. What is the end goal of this? To get Jordan booed based on nepotism? How does it make him a babyface? Who is this angle even for?

It's not for most of RAW's audience -- that older demographic who got hooked during the 80's or 90's and still watches because deep down they love wrestling. They know enough about it to not have any sort of emotional response to this sort of bullshit. The casuals aren't going to be moved by this, surely, because it's the sort of thing that feels exploitative and overly fake, so they're not going to want to be taken in by it. This seems like more booking for the children, who the WWE think are universally dumb, to make them go to school and say "Whoa, Jason Jordan is Kurt Angle's son! That must mean he's a great wrestler too!" except then cooler kids will say "Shut up, that shit isn't real, you're dumb." Then they will look it up, like kids can do now, see that it's not and not bother.

I just don't get what the goal is. It seems...weak. Like they're attempting to shock people into feeling something, but they don't really know how to even do that anymore.

Mr. Nerfect 07-19-2017 07:55 AM

Ugh, I feel stupid talking about it. Like, it doesn't even piss me off, and it doesn't really motivate mt to analyze it.

When I saw a screenshot of Jason Jordan's Wikipedia page being changed to say he was Kurt Angle's son, I thought it was a joke. But it's real, and it's somehow still not completely funny or not completely sad. I don't really care, and that's the worst thing, because now they are trying to do stuff and it's not got people caring, and when you're loud and no one cares, that's when everybody notices they don't care.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-19-2017 07:58 AM

it's just more proof of how much they hate their fan base.

Theo Dious 07-19-2017 09:23 AM

https://youtu.be/srbE-LYPxxA

Mr. Nerfect 07-19-2017 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 4992628)
it's just more proof of how much they hate their fan base.

Yeah, I really do think that it does betray a general contempt for the people who are still loyal to their content.

Lock Jaw 07-19-2017 11:34 AM

You just know that this isn't even going to lead to a real push for Jordan..... he's going to get so far, and then be viscously beaten down by a heel (maybe Triple H) and then daddy Kurt Angle will come out of retirement to wrestle and fight Jason Jordan's battle for him and vanquish the heel that Jason Jordan couldn't because everyone from the old era is better than everybody from the current era.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-19-2017 11:47 AM

Pretty much. If Jordan gets a win it'll be flukey as fuck. Mind you, if he gets a monster push he'll get booed out of the building, because he's not ready. All in all, they are idiots.


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