I've learned about her pecking order via "extensive research". Jinder and Shinsuke aren't suppose to be on the priority list :)

I actually like Nakamura but he should really learn English better.

Yep. Corbin,Owens,Mojo,Bray,Dana,Brock,Rowan,Balor though his body makes him somewhat tolerable.

Does Jinder's ethnicity hinder your liking for him?

I know this was a question for BW, but me - I find this dude boring (I don't watch much, though) even though I kinda enjoy all those USA vs The World feuds.
I think all the finishes to his matches with Orton were stupid and repetitive.

Nak isn't the greatest promo.

I think Nakamura speaks English better than people think. He's got the mouthpiece in a lot and talks with the lisp as a result, plus I think he puts extra emphasis on a lot of words because of his style.

I don't have a favorable opinion of Jinder Mahal. His foreigner gimmick doesn't even fit the right stereotype and has set "my people" back a few decades. The biggest pet peeve that I have is when the fucker says that he's going to speak to his people in the language of Punjabi. Punjabi is not one of the two widely spoken languages (Hindi and English) in the country. People who speak Punjabi make up less than 3% of the overall population. Also, he's using the "Dastar" (turban) to get heat. It's the equivalent of getting booed for wearing a cross or a religious headscarf / burka / hijab / niqab.

He doesn't really have to be though

So Shinsuke's mouthguard is to emphasize his MMA career or something?

Concussion prevention measure?

Tell me you're joking.

Just watched it. It was fun - and Cena definitely did the right thing in putting Nakamura over. In spite of Cena's promos in which he scoffs at being called a part-timer, the fact is he's rapidly outgrowing WWE and they should be doing everything they can to try to have Cena give the rub to other guys while he's still around.

I'm sure Cena still loves wrestling, but with his upcoming Transformers appearance I can see him reaching a point where his schedule fills up with so many movies (and protection clauses in his contracts for those movies) that he simply won't have the time to wrestle anymore. He's on borrowed time and WWE desperately need Cena to help build new stars while they still can.

I hope they promote Naks win over him better than Ambros's win over Cena

Ambrose won over Cena?

Must have been very poorly promoted, cause I've never heard of this.

lol yeah, it's good that you haven't because it proves my point.

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About the US title match - I can kinda see Shane turning heel and screwing AJ over.

They gave away a PPV tier first encounter for a 0.034 million increase in the ratings.

Cena took a bigger bump than the bump in the ratings got.

Was surprised the Nakamura/Cena match had a true finish and Cena put over Shinsuke. Good match though and I thought Cena might have broke his neck. Nakamura vs Mahal for the WWE Championship at Summerslam is weird but I think Nakamura wins with a Corbin cash in afterwards. The Styles/Owens match would have been better if the ref bump wasn't so poor. Glad KO vs Shane isn't happening though and hopefully him and Styles can have a killer match at Summerslam.

Just saw that ref bump. He missed him by a fucking mile.

Just watched this episode of Smackdown Live. Another solid show.

US Title match was good. Ending was a bit messed up with the ref being knocked down from the wind of KO's missed punch, and it causing him to be blind. I'm glad that we aren't getting a KO/Shane match, and are actually getting another match between two full time rasslers in the middle of a good feud.

Usos continue to be good. I guess rapping is their thing now? Also, did they get a new theme with lyrics?

I really enjoyed Rusev/Gable. It seems to me like Chad Gable is everything they want Jason Jordan to be. He's slowly (very slowly) catching on with the fans..... but unlike having a super-hyped up match against Curt Hawkins, he has been having match after match with high-end competitors. Having good showings, but losing.

When Rusev was talking after the match about how no one could beat him, I was hoping Gable would have got on the mic and been all "I came that close to beating you, and I know I can do it, so I want you again!"

Rusev could have then said "no", but over the next two weeks stuff happens and he agrees, and then Gable beats him at Summerslam.

Would have been good for Rusev, would have been good for Gable.

Instead we are getting Orton/Rusev, where Rusev will no doubt lose. This is feeling like the "good old days" where Cena would feud with someone and win, and then Orton would swoop in and take his sloppy seconds and feud with that person right after and also win.


I'm glad Nakamura won the main event, I guess. I still think it is going to be a lackluster main event/WWE Title Match for Summerslam..... but I guess it is slightly more interesting with Nakamura rather than Cena.

It was a work

Very meta of them though.

I'm curious to see where they are going with Mahal/Cena. It seems like they've set it in stone now, but where does that leave Cena? A multi-man tag with some babyfaces against the like of Owens, Corbin, Rusev, etc.? It'd be easy to get to and provide a fun calamity for the show. The WWE often does multi-man tags really well.

It feels to me like you can't have Nakamura get this far and choke. Unless they are going with Corbin cashing in and screwing Nakamura, but do we really need more Corbin/Nak matches? Seems a bit shoe-horned. Maybe it would just be better to switch the belt to Nakamura and run with that for a while, because there have been a lot of first-time champs lately.

Hey Destor, what's it like always trying to be the smartest guy in the room, you fucking mark ;-)

Are you talking about the SummerSlam card? Owens and Rusev are already booked.

Lately i dont have to try around here </3

I'm about to watch Rusev/Gable again right now. I really, really enjoyed that match.

Yeah..... I hope they feud after Summerslam..... I can see WWE not wanting Gable at Summerslam so he doesn't overshadow Kurt Angle's Son, Jason Jordan.

Woohoo Rasslemania 24, guess who was there?

Not as good as 18 tho

I apologize -- I don't follow that closely anymore. Orton vs. Rusev should be a good little match. If Orton is still taking some time off, this could re-heat Rusev quiet effectively. But it could also just be a nice little way to get Orton a win back. It's not like Rusev is exactly hot right now. But good on him for getting the Orton match.

Personally, I'd like it if Orton won and then turned heel on Nakamura in a "You did what I couldn't do" move. Cena is apparently heading over to RAW, so Nakamura vs. Orton seems like the most "emboldening" match for Naks.

Styles vs. Owens seems like a vehicle to get to Owens vs. Shane, which is fine by me. People still care about Shane, and if they add the bells and whistles, Owens can play that hardcore game about as well as anybody today.

Styles seems like the odd man out after SummerSlam. It's possible they just jam him with a random guy like Rusev or Corbin, but if Joe does head over (wasn't he advertised on some Smackers shows?) then Styles vs. Joe for the US Title would be really cool eventually. Or maybe they even bring over a guy like Cesaro for the Styles match. Or run something with Zayn or Gable, face vs. face. I wish they were doing more with Styles, but he's a good supplement to whatever else is going on. I just hope they move away from Mahal in the title picture.

Seems like Cena and Corbin might feud for a bit, if what was supposed to be the first few minutes of 205 LIVE were instead (Corbin beating on Nakamura's and Cena making the save) are any indication.

Ahh, but was 24 as good as 23?

I bet Rusev beats Orton clean. Orton doesn't need the win

We shall see

Orton needs the win. Coming off from losing a ME program.

In the long run, I really don't think he does tbh. Orton's spot is pretty much secure and I don't think putting Rusev over is gonna hurt that

If you never put your established guys over they wont be your established guys for long. Rusev is a midcard good hand. His job is put over the guys that matter till he jobs all his credibility away. He'll go do some comedy. Maybe get repackage. Then fired if/when that doesnt take off.

Yeah, Orton is going to be one of those guys they count on to spruce up WrestleMania and shit, because they don't have anybody. I mean, there is a case to be made for Rusev being more valuable than a mid-card act, but Orton winning makes a lot of sense.

Yep. Makes all the sense in the world to build new stats for the future of the company by constantly feeding them to ME guys so the ME guys can bury them a mile deep. :roll:

What was the last feud Randy won? Randy is a bottom of the barrel main eventer. Rusev isn't a main eventer of any type at this point. If Orton loses to Rusev it hurts Orton more than it helps Rusev. Rusev beating Orton would just be another person Orton has lost to. Orton beating Rusev keeps Orton a step above the mid card scene while not hurting Rusev as Rusev isn't a main eventer. Rusev will not become a main eventer by feuding with Orton win or lose.

Your mistake is thinking they have any intention on building Russev up. He is now exactly what they intend him to be.

I remember when rusev had potential

I think he's great...but yeah, ship sailed.

I think he's great too but I can't buy him legitly anymore

Just wait...one of these days Lana and Rusev will be SDL Women's and WWE Champions again and become SDL's newest power couple, mark my words.

Orton is coming off a WWE Title program loss. The way the company told the story was so poor that the logical progression of the story should have been Orton getting the belt back too, but they cheated fans out of that. Mahal would constantly look like he wasn't in Orton's league, and needed constant help to escape. If I were a more average fan, I'd be pissed that Orton is no longer going after the belt -- because their narrative is that he is better. You need to reward the fans' faith in Orton if he is going to still mean something as the a main event attraction for the WWE moving forward.

This is exactly it. Whether it is because they don't like him, don't like that he's banging Lana, don't like his tweets, don't like his haircut, or just feel that Joe is better at that sort of thing than him, they don't want him to be a main event dude for them. Otherwise he would be a main event dude for them. Orton is a main event dude for them.

Well here's to hoping they intend to push him and he goes over Orton :y:

Eh, I don't really know where he fits. Honestly, at this point, I'd rather see him and Mahal become a tag team again. At least it gets Mahal out of singles wrestling.

But he's a heel. It can be argued that his body type does not lend itself to being a cheating coward.

I dunno that not winning the belt hurt Orton any and the causal fan that likes him probably won't think anything of it.

Would be nice if Orton ended up costing Mahal the belt as revenge.

The problem isn't that Jinder cheats, heels are generally supposed to cheat. It's the fact that he's cheated in literally his entire run up the card. He went from being a jobber to randomly having the Singhs help him in the #1 contenders match, and he's never shown he can do it on his own.

I look at Evolution-era Triple H. Dude got help in every damn title match during that run. But if they ran an angle where Evolution was banned from ringside - you at least felt like Triple H could hang with whoever he was facing and possibly win. Because he's won on his own before.

If anything it almost added to the heat the announcers tried to put on Triple H. "This bastard is capable of winning on his own but he keeps cheating just to be sure of it!" Jinder on the other hand in no way looked like he could've beaten Orton or any other main eventer solo.