wtf was that. i'm confused. i liked it

lol nice

Omg that was fucking money. so funny.

Totally.

They should just have him choke slam ppl, that move he does is convaluted.

So why is Penta/Eddie teaming again? Didn't they do like a whole blood fued when they turned on Eddie for death triangle, or is that too long ago to have mattered?

Well I don't remember it so...

Oh yeah and I thought the mixed tag was a really fun match, good way of working around the limitations/quirks of that ruleset.

This show has rocked

Kingston came to Penta & Pac's defense when Young Bucks were attacking them a few weeks ago... then Penta was still mad at him in a later backstage segment... but then they "squashed their beef"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/LanceHoyt?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LanceHoyt</a> has heard enough from <a href="https://twitter.com/AmericanTopTeam?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AmericanTopTeam</a>'s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DanLambert?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DanLambert</a> and hits him with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BlackOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BlackOut</a> while <a href="https://twitter.com/ufc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UFC</a>'s <a href="https://twitter.com/GamebredFighter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GamebredFighter</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/Amanda_Leoa?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Amanda_Leoa</a> look on!<br><br>Tune into <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> NOW on <a href="https://twitter.com/tntdrama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tntdrama</a> <a href="https://t.co/l4bskH1Zab">pic.twitter.com/l4bskH1Zab</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1412950076868153344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is going to be an insane match.

I have a great memory of seeing Eddie Kingston doing a street fight with Chris Hero in ROH once. Some of the most insane spots I'd ever seen.

too bad @ only having the facial hair for one week

Dan Lambert is a great promo. I loved that. I could see Nunes getting into wrestling one day. She'd be great.

Bucks in shorts! I like it

The Young Bucks wearing their finest bWo Stevie Richards gear

Involuntary vasectomy lmao the worst kind

jeez @ destroyer through the table

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/PENTAELZEROM?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PENTAELZEROM</a> coming in hot with the Destroyer! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWonTNT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWonTNT</a> <a href="https://t.co/oxWURcLfAn">pic.twitter.com/oxWURcLfAn</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@tde_gif) <a href="https://twitter.com/tde_gif/status/1412952088234139652?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

decent thread going up against the Stanley Cup Finals and Big Brother premiere. It'll be interesting to see the ratings.

Damn I wish I could watch AEW on Fite TV to avoid commercials.

Anyone got cell footage of the guy who ran in on MJF?

barely saw the fan on the TNT

This is all I found on Twitter

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A fan jumped the guardrail and tried to attack MJF. Now that’s REAL heat <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRoadRager?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRoadRager</a><a href="https://t.co/e8kabkLymQ">pic.twitter.com/e8kabkLymQ</a></p>&mdash; Sonny (@SonnyTheJobber) <a href="https://twitter.com/SonnyTheJobber/status/1412937448494092288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW security handling the fan that tried to run in on the MJF/Jericho segment <a href="https://t.co/hcR6YtNHlC">pic.twitter.com/hcR6YtNHlC</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1412937680921505796?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TACKS!

Kazarian has CENA NUFF

With a minute to spare.

Thumbtacks in the mouth, damn

What a fucking fire episode this was.

awesome episode

i really underestimated how good this match would be. entertained!

Good ep this week, flew by

Awesome main event. Best Dynamite I can remember for a long time!

always been a fan of Kazarian. I wonder what they'll do with him going forward?

The second link had the footage if you scroll to comments.

Those pre-pandemic Dynamites had such an energy to them. Every crowd was hot. And this felt like they went right back to that.

Great stuff.

Totally :y::y:

Oh nice

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">YALL WANT MORE POTATO? I GIVE YOU MORE POTATO. <a href="https://t.co/PvUHoTUpFy">https://t.co/PvUHoTUpFy</a> BB <a href="https://t.co/DueNb8jaoH">pic.twitter.com/DueNb8jaoH</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1412940680985448452?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No escape from <a href="https://twitter.com/AndradeElIdolo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AndradeElIdolo</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWonTNT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWonTNT</a> <a href="https://t.co/oYVZU0n5Xd">pic.twitter.com/oYVZU0n5Xd</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@tde_gif) <a href="https://twitter.com/tde_gif/status/1412941046636494850?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Love it when idiot fans get dropped.

Scott Hall almost kicking a dude's skull in at Bash at the Beach was the best, which fittingly was 25 years ago today!

That's pretty wild because it's incredibly unlikely WWE doesn't have a contract management system and a template agreement they use for all NXT and/or main roster agreement amendments that would have the 90 day clause in it by default. Either, 1. someone messed up and pulled the wrong template doc and no one else noticed, 2. someone really messed up by intentionally or negligently editing the 90 day clause to 30 and no one else noticed, or 3. this story is just wrong.

This show was so much fun too. Felt like it flew by.

They shouldn't be bringing in any new talent right now unless it is to feed to Christian to build him up.

Also, lol of that clip of Malakai Black debut and the commentator not knowing what to call him and just calling him Tommy End before I guess getting the message in his ear to call him Malakai.... seems like that is something that should have been worked out in advance so you don't look dumb like that.

Happy that Cody is starting a real feud and is done wrestling jobbers. His programs were the best stuff on AEW before the crap with the Factory started.

Wait, if Konnan is appearing on AEW regularly, then why isn't he the mouthpiece for Andrade? Would be so much better.

Yeah def... Vickie Guerrero is terrible with him, doesn't fit and she is really annoying and not good on the mic imo

He said "That's Tommy End, but that man standing in the ring is not Tommy End. That's Malakai Black"... As if he was a "changed man" or whatever. Was still kind of awkward but he was just explaining that he's not "Tommy End" anymore, which is what every1 expected him to be called in AEW (crowd started chanting "Tommy, Tommy")

I think JR did call him Tommy End later but that's just JR being JR!!

Yeah, crowd chanting "Tommy" kind of ruined the moment too a bit....

He was also saying stuff about wrestling Tommy End before going back on track to say it wasn't Tommy End.

Excalibur sounded like a toot with that "THAT'S NOT TOMMY END THAT'S MALACHI BLACK". Made me chuckle.

great show

Loaded. Watching this. Very good after 30 mins. Very.

As it turns out, Black actually posted a vignette yesterday afternoon on his Instagram confirming his new ring name. Most fans wouldn’t have seen it and assumed he’s Tommy End though so it kinda makes sense to me to be like “you know him as Tommy End but it’s Malakai Black” or whatever.

Either way it was a fire debut.

Also it’s come out that Black wasn’t let out of his deal early, rather WWE forgot to bump his non-compete from 30 days to 90 when he went to the main roster :lol:

yeah that's how much they cared about him in wwe, funny he starts just after his wife does smackdown.

How long before JR says "THAT EVIL BASTARD ALEISTER BLACK"

Eh, he never really called an Aleister Black match did he? Don't see that happening "outta habit" like his WWE gaffes.

Fell asleep. I don’t blame the product. I blame myself.

Pretty mediocre show

4.5/10

Frig that was good. Love AEW.

SoDuTw (Rovert) was the only 'insider' who mentioned Black that I saw, so I think they did a pretty good job of keeping him as a surprise


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whether I am a pseudo insider or not hangs in the balance in a matter of minutes.<br><br>AEW as of last weekend at least thought Tommy End would be available for 7/7 in Miami. Maybe he got the all-clear since? <a href="https://t.co/y5GWe7g7SP">pic.twitter.com/y5GWe7g7SP</a></p>&mdash; SoDuTw (@SoDuTw) <a href="https://twitter.com/SoDuTw/status/1410386582797012995?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justin Roberts grabbed his leg �� <a href="https://t.co/ppuKRIkJYB">https://t.co/ppuKRIkJYB</a></p>&mdash; ��The Rachel�� (@TheGaychel) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGaychel/status/1413181950982905857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://i.imgur.com/OKbGFZN.png

Snug.

The dude looks like your typical basement dwelling AEW fan

Speaking of, can't stop looking at that tub of lard behind Cody Rhodes in that pic.... haunting....

At first I thought you were talking about Arn:lol:

Hahaha!

dumb ass AEW social media team makes another misspelling... "Malakia Black"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welcome to the team…<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MalakiaBlack?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MalakiaBlack</a> is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AllElite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AllElite</a> <a href="https://t.co/1EpUKSGuJP">pic.twitter.com/1EpUKSGuJP</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1413210392071917572?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite last night drew 871,000 live and same night viewers, down from 883,000 last week. The 18-49 demo drew 0.33, down from 0.35 last week. No &quot;back on the road with fans&quot; bump. Ominous for WWE's hopes of a surge? More at <a href="https://t.co/b30cDz6YY1">https://t.co/b30cDz6YY1</a> soon. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a></p>&mdash; Pro Wrestling Torch (@PWTorch) <a href="https://twitter.com/PWTorch/status/1413236992662515717?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow. I guess that's what happens when you put out a second rate product.


R.I.P

That's likely incorrect and just some bullshit Meltzer or a Meltzerlike shill made up. There is no way WWE forgot to update his contract to a main roster contract because NXT contracts include travel, room, and board. There is ZERO chance WWE was paying all his expenses this whole time without noticing.

My money is on WWE waved the 90 days as part of Zelina agreeing to comeback.

So back on the road, normal timeslot, unopposed by NXT, another WWE debut, Pat McAfee's dad cutting a promo, Andrade's hyped first match, Cody in another gimmick match, and the MEGADRAWS Young Bucks in a hyped up main event LOST viewers??? SHOCKING!!!

Quick, somebody check if Joe Biden was on TV to explain the drop :rofl:I

Edit:I checked, no Biden stealing ratings :'(

It's not a bad number. Especially when you consider how WWE just delivered their lowest Raw ratings since 1993! Hahaha, WOW!

Lowest rating ever, still 600,000 more than Dynamite. Perspective*

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For fun, if you extrapolate linear trends from November 2019 to June 2021 out 12 months into the future... <a href="https://t.co/NunNnh9H0u">pic.twitter.com/NunNnh9H0u</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1413174448107229188?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don’t know why anyone is bothering with predicting the future based upon anything pandemic related. It zapped all the energy out of every wrestling company in the world. It forced every company to put on a worse product.

Let’s just wait and see folks.



And that’s my two cents.

WWE has been in buisness for decades and decades while AEW has been in buisness for only two and has a tv rights deal that took WWE decades to achieve! AEW is by far more successful in it's second year than any company of all time!

:rofl:

AEW has considerable issues. they don't have the brand or the decades or long standing relationships with networks and sponsors. AEWs numbers are easily replicated by shows with much smaller budgets and that should the real concern. not WWE. 3 cam sitcoms. syndicated reruns. i hope AEW grows untils its a true success but its clock is ticking and its ticking much faster than the wwfs.

:y:

The big issue is going to be when Warner learns it can get more advertising from Big Bang reruns than spending money on AEW. 871k this week. It’s going down, and that would be a pretty average number even when they were going against NXT.

I agree with this 100%.

Take WWE out of the equation and just look at AEW as a TV show. This is a TV show that debuted less than 2 years ago with a 1.4 rating. They have not come within 300,000 Viewers since, minus the first night NXT was no longer on, when they got a 1.2.

Both those ratings would suggest that people gave them a look, and did not come back. It is all the proof needed to show that this company is not growing a fanbase.

AEW operates in this weird bubble where they intended to do self promotion to draw fans, but instead truly believe their own hype, so much so that they are confrontational with anybody who tries to suggest improvement. They believe in their own hype so much so that they ignore the fact that they are not growing, that what they are doing is perfect across the board, and that they have no reason to try and get better.

They have their cheerleaders like Meltzer and Bleacher Report reporters that validate their opinions, and when they get on a show with a unbiased person who asks them legit questions, they spaz out like Tony Khan did with Bully Ray.

The Young Bucks have quit Twitter how many times because they cant handle criticism, them come back and mock Big E for a WWE list that says New Day is the best tag team.

You got Kenny Omega on Twitter bashing fans that arent blind supporters every other day.

Jericho is still crying over Shotzi Blackheart posting a gif 2 months ago, and saying he would prevent her from getting a job because of it.

These are not likeable people.

Someone, at some point, is going to ask Tony Khan if he does in fact lease rings from Chasyn Rance, as has been claimed by Rance. And that is going to open a rather large can of worms.

wrestling is saturated, repetitive and very predictable right now. It's not a real shock on the ratings by all the companies. There's no must see TV from any company. Kids/teens have a million other avenues to entertain themselves vs back 10-20 years ago, so obtaining growth from that market is very difficult. Not a lot of people in their 20's and 30's are all of a sudden going to start liking wrestling, so it's hard to get that market to buy in. So they are left with the wrestling junkies, who will go out of their way to watch any wrestling they can.

But even wrestling fans today don't even have to watch an entire show to stay updated on what happened. you can just go to you tube the next day and watch video clips of what happened. Back then if you missed it, you missed it unless one of the Sat/Sun shows replayed some segments. That's honestly what i do today. If i read something interesting happened, i'll find it on the internet and check it out

i don't see any end in sight to the downward TV ratings. I don't think the live ticket market is in trouble because that's a fun time for families and it's a once or twice a year thing to catch in your area. So people get excited for that. But TV...yeah it'll continue to dwindle.

I'd rather an hr show per company and they don't put the same guys on every week. Go back to basics. But it won't happen because there's way too much ad money to be lost

I agree with you so much on oversaturation.

Growing up you really only had to watch WWF Superstars and WCW Saturday Night to follow everything. You *could* watch Wrestling Challenge (and who wouldn't want to with Monsoon/Heenan) and WCW Saturday Morning/Main Event...but you didn't have to.

There's too much product, in WWE's case it's almost all the same. I love horror movies and I could probably watch a new horror film every day if I had the chance...but if every horror movie had the same production style, camera angles and horrible storylines I'd get bored fast. In AEW's case I already don't watch the YT shows and am on the fence about Rampage.

Live events I think will do fine for now as well. I think around 3-5k will be the average attendance for shows, with big shows getting bigger crowds. In WWE's case I am wondering if they have any long-term plans (note: I know they don't) since Cena at SummerSlam and Rock at Survivor Series leaves something you can't possibly top for WrestleMania. I think Cena will give SD a lil bump in ratings and I think Rock will most definitely give SD a significant bump in ratings, but what's the plan after that (note: I know they don't have one)...