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The Miz 07-19-2004 02:52 AM

It's not gonna happen. And they won't move to Santa Cruz or San Jose or any of the other places that have been talked about. Bud Selig does this to every team, most recently the Royals in like 95.

BCWWF 07-19-2004 03:07 AM

I heard that Portland really wants a team, and the Expo's will probably stay out East.

While watching the A's vs. White Sox on Saturday, I just started thinking about it. The Giants are pretty big in the Bay Area, easilly the dominant team there. I'm not sure the A's even fill that huge stadium in the playoffs, they obviously aren't generating enough money since in the past four years they have lost Jason Isringhausen, Johnny Damon, Jason Giambi, Miguel Tejada, Ramon Martinez to name a few. I doubt they will be getting their own stadium any time soon.

Can somebody who lives in the area tell me if losing the A's and just having the Giants would really be devastating? As usual I don't really know anything about the situation in the area, but thats what it seems like from the far out perspective.

BCWWF 07-19-2004 03:07 AM

I also have good ideas to fix the Central divisions and get rid of inter-league.

DaveWadding 07-19-2004 11:49 AM

contract Milwaukee.

Keep interleague.

BCWWF 07-19-2004 04:51 PM

Move KC to the NL and Milwaukee to the AL. It would really make a lot of sense because there is really no heat between other teams for us because the closest one is Chicago and thats 7-8 hour drive. When we played Milwaukee people actually traveled, and its two hours from White Sox. Kansas City and St. Louis is self explanitory.

DaveWadding 07-19-2004 06:32 PM

No, I think we should just contract Milwaukee and shoot Bud Selig.

BCWWF 07-19-2004 09:01 PM

Milwaukee is up and coming now with a pretty nice stadium

BCWWF 07-19-2004 09:12 PM

Joe Mauer is easily one of the most talented rookies this year, him and Bobby Crosby, but nobody in Minnesota is willing to admit this yet, he is injury prone. He already missed a lot of the first half for some random injury and now his knee is injured again, he may have to go on the DL. I'm gonna be pissed if Mauer turns out to be one of those guys who can never play a full season.

Also, WTF at Mulholland only allowing 2 hits into the 5th?

The Miz 07-19-2004 09:45 PM

Twins place C Joe Mauer on the DL.

Yashamaga 07-20-2004 02:58 PM

Crosby will be good

but the real future SS superstar can be found in San Diego.

BCWWF 07-20-2004 06:27 PM

OMG is anyone else watching this Cubs Cards game? Tied 8-8 in the 9th, Pujols with his third homer of the night, 5-5, 2B, 1B, 3HR, Cards are now up 10-8. How freakin good is he?

KingofOldSchool 07-20-2004 06:41 PM

LOL

The Cubs are choking this season just like they did last year in the NLCS.

*brings out the goat*

BCWWF 07-20-2004 06:50 PM

Thats the LaTroy Hawkins I know :lol:

KingofOldSchool 07-20-2004 06:52 PM

LOL @ LaTroy Hawkins

The Miz 07-20-2004 07:14 PM

KoOS, you are seriously a moron. The Cubs have been injury-plagued all year and are still only 2 games back of the Wild Card. Sosa, Alou, Ramirez, Grudzielanek, Wood, Prior, etc have all been injured. The Cardinals have faced no significant injuries. If being 2 games back of the Wild Card when you haven't been healthy constitutes as "choking" then I guess you're right. Keep replying to sports topics with "LOL" thogh, it makes you look smart.

KingofOldSchool 07-20-2004 07:30 PM

Yes.

Hence the curse of the Billy Goat.

The Miz 07-20-2004 07:32 PM

Holy shit anyone watching Toronto and Oakland? Both teams #5 starters on the mound, Dave Bush throws 8 innings of scoreless 1-hit ball and Rich Harden throws 8 2/3 of scoreless 2-hit ball. Going into the 12th tied at 0.

KingofOldSchool 07-20-2004 07:32 PM

And not to mention they have all of their offensive guys back now and they're still doing jack shit.

Oh and their bullpen is the shits.

The Miz 07-21-2004 09:15 PM

ESPN is reporting that the Yankees have offered the D'backs a package that includes Jorge Posada in exchange for Johnson. WTF are they nuts? If I were the Yanks I'd offer Giambi, he sucks and Tony Clark has played better with much less playing time.

MVP 07-24-2004 12:11 AM

Holy shit, Millar hit 3 homeruns.

Too bad the rest of the line-up couldn't back it. Rivera was fucking sick tonight. :mad:

YOUR Hero 07-24-2004 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz
Holy shit anyone watching Toronto and Oakland? Both teams #5 starters on the mound, Dave Bush throws 8 innings of scoreless 1-hit ball and Rich Harden throws 8 2/3 of scoreless 2-hit ball. Going into the 12th tied at 0.

Too bad for the Jays in that one. Lost 1-0...

Halladay on the mend again for the second time this year, they really need someone else to step up. Batista is doing ok, but he tends to throw a few bad pitches in a row, putting himself in a terrible fix.

YOUR Hero 07-24-2004 12:23 AM

Boone is starting to heat up for the Mariners.

They look awful this year :-\

The Miz 07-24-2004 12:27 AM

They are a joke

Loose Cannon 07-24-2004 12:48 AM

Harden can be so god dam good at times, He's a solid #3 on a lot of other teams IMO.

The Miz 07-24-2004 12:50 AM

Yeah Harden has been much more consistent than Zito or Redman this year.

Loose Cannon 07-24-2004 12:58 AM

Yeah, I kind of expected Redman to pitch the way he has been pitching this year. It's hard when you walk on to a staff like the Oakland A's, who IMO, have the best 5 man rotation in the whole league. He probably put a lot of pressure on himself and who could blame him with the other guys he's pitching with. I think that's happening to Zito too. He's trying too hard. I think if Zito were on say the Royals or something, he would have way more wins right now.

Dragon 07-24-2004 06:00 PM

Bench clearing fight between Sox and Yankees already.

MVP 07-24-2004 06:02 PM

A-Rod and Varitek are probably suspended.

Loose Cannon 07-24-2004 06:06 PM

Fuck, I missed it

Dragon 07-24-2004 06:09 PM

Yeah, A-Rod and Varitek were ejected.

Tanyon Sturtze would have been killed by David Ortiz if he had gotten at him though.

Pretty crazy.

MVP 07-24-2004 06:12 PM

I wouldn't mess wtih Ortiz either, thank God Kapler had his hands full with Sturtze.

Dragon 07-24-2004 06:16 PM

Yeah, even though Sturtze is like 6'6, David Ortiz is a beast. If he got more into that fight than he did he probably would have killed Sturtze.

MVP 07-24-2004 06:40 PM

Sturtze is out with a brusied pinky finger on his catching hand. :wtf:

The Miz 07-24-2004 07:06 PM

Pat Hentgen retired :wtf:

Dragon 07-24-2004 07:15 PM

I read that earlier. I saw his start against the Yankees the other day and he was pretty awful. I didn't think he'd be retiring though.

The Outlaw 07-25-2004 02:36 PM

Ortiz threw Sturtze down with one arm :eek:

Also, ARod is a baby. If he would have said that to me I would have did the same thing Varitek did.

ct2k 07-26-2004 11:23 AM

Varitek was an idiot for shoving him and starting it off, he woulda made ARod look like more of a fool if he'd not risen to it and just let him cry like a baby til he got to 1st, Nevermind

Yashamaga 07-26-2004 08:45 PM

huge series coming up with the Twins/CWS

I hope one of them sweeps the other one

Dragon 07-26-2004 11:21 PM

Another blown save for Rivera. He goes the whole season blowing one save, then messes up two tries in a row.

Boomer 07-27-2004 12:22 AM

Braves are making it look easyyyyyy

Excellance of Execution 07-27-2004 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon
Another blown save for Rivera. He goes the whole season blowing one save, then messes up two tries in a row.

He did that on purpose, because he wanted to get the win :lol: :shifty:

ct2k 07-27-2004 12:08 PM

He's still been awesome this year as always, his era was like 0.95 until a few days ago

The Miz 07-28-2004 07:23 PM

A's win again on a pinch hit single by the hottest hitter in the MLB Mark Kotsay. 5 in a row now. Bye Rangers :wavesad:

ct2k 07-29-2004 12:01 PM

Mark Mulder is having a shit-hot season, he's like 14-4 or something now:|

The Miz 07-29-2004 02:47 PM

Yeah Mulder had been the only one pitching for a while and the A's were still in it. Now Zito and Harden are pitching better and some guy named Tim Hudson is coming back. Uh oh.

ct2k 07-29-2004 04:40 PM

Man that's some rotation! Them and the Cards right now, two best rotations going arguably.

And goddamnit, JD Drew, Juan Pierre and Jimmy Rollins just went a combined 1 for 15, that'll do my fantasy teams wonders:mad:

Loose Cannon 07-29-2004 05:00 PM

Mulder is the FK'N man. I remember he became my favorite pitcher in the league when I got him on my fantasy team in his 2nd season and I had no idea who he was. Then he had an awesome season and I won the league with a lot of credit to him.

If he wins the CY Young, that will make all the "Big 3" on the A's Cy Young winners

ct2k 07-29-2004 05:03 PM

They're all good enough to be aces, it's like the Braves in the 90's with Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine

Evil Vito 07-30-2004 02:11 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Eric Valent of the Mets hit for the cycle today (technically yesterday at this point), damn I don't think anyone expected him to do that well.</font>

The Miz 07-30-2004 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
If he wins the CY Young, that will make all the "Big 3" on the A's Cy Young winners

Hudson's never won it

ct2k 07-30-2004 06:25 AM

Sidney Ponson pitched a complete game and didn't get knocked around for the first time in ages, thanks Sidney:|

ct2k 07-30-2004 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz
Hudson's never won it

Yeah, all three of em are 20 game winners though and Mulder will certainly be in the running for the AL Cy Young this time around

Evil Vito 07-30-2004 10:14 PM

<font color=goldenrod>The Mets won the Kris Benson sweepstakes.</font> :cool:

DaveWadding 07-30-2004 10:15 PM

and the Victor Zambrano sweepstakes.

I :love: the Mets staff right now.

Loose Cannon 07-30-2004 10:53 PM

Hudson never did it? Dam, I could of sworn he did. Oh well. Would of been cool :-\

Loose Cannon 07-30-2004 10:55 PM

Just checked, he was 2nd in 2000. Dam Pedro :mad: And Mulder was 2nd in 2001

The Outlaw 07-31-2004 03:21 PM

Braves whatttup

The Miz 07-31-2004 03:28 PM

The Marlins completely raped the Dodgers in the LoDuca/Mota for Penny/Choi trade

Excellance of Execution 07-31-2004 05:45 PM

I just heard on FOX, the Yanks traded Contreras to the White Sox for Estaban Loaiza. Also, Steve Finley got traded to the Dodger's.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-31-2004 09:01 PM

:( @ Nomar leaving

"Defense, Defense, Defense" its all I am hearing now, the Sox are one of the top teams in runs scored, but they I dunno I think that is misleading. They don't get the runs when they really matter, I always notice lopsided scores like 8-1, 7-2, etc but then the loses are like 4-2 after the Sox don't score a run with the bases loaded :mad:

Going to miss the offense BIG TIME, I don't like this trade at all, I don't care about a Gold Glove first basemen. He has 5 HR and 25 RBI. I bet if Dave McCarty (known for his defense at 1st) played as much as Mientkiewicz has played he would be putting up those numbers too, and McCarty is already on the team.

The Miz 07-31-2004 10:16 PM

LOL good job Trot Nixon. Lose the season because you want to jump on a Yankee spot starter. Wow he showed them, what a team player. :y:

Stima, this is a good trade for the Sox. The Yankees don't have any .300 hitters and it's well-known how shit their starting 5 is. So why are they 8 games up? Jeter, Rodriguez, Lofton, Matsui, Posada are all excellent defenders. It's hard to say anything good about any Red Sox player's D other than Damon. And Mientkiewicz is just in a slump, he's not a power hitter or RBI guy but the Sox already have plenty of those. He has hit .300 with 65+ RBI's a few times in the past.

I think what both the Red Sox and Yankees don't realize is that 9 40 HR hitters isn't going to win you championships. Look at the Marlins last year, they had 1 superstar and 8 above average players. Consistent pitching, excellent defense and timely hitting. And they beat the shit out of the Yankees.

Loose Cannon 07-31-2004 11:21 PM

Are starting five is shit? I don't know how you can call them shit when we have the best record in the league. Maybe "aren't that great" But, Shit?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOAIZA.


I feel terrible about Nomar though. He was like Jeter to the Yanks. Sucks.

The Miz 07-31-2004 11:39 PM

Maybe shit is too strong a word but I mean cmon when you got guys like Tanyon Sturtze and Brad Halsey in there..

Loose Cannon 08-01-2004 12:19 AM

yeah, they suck.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-01-2004 03:03 AM

Trot Nixon has been hurt all year anyways, I dunno what role the schuff played in him going to the DL.

Probably is a good trade, but I am just sad to see Nomar going. Its rough to see your favorite player leave your favorite team while he is still in the prime of his career. I will always be a Nomar fan, aslong as he doesn't land on the Yanks.

ct2k 08-01-2004 09:28 AM

I've always been a huge Nomar fan and i'm gonna miss him being on the Sox :-\

And as for the Yanks rotation, well Kevin Brown pitched a gem on his return the other night, El Duque has been very good apart from that early exit the other night, although that wasn't from being knocked around. With Loaiza added in, Vazquez having a good year and Mussina on the way back, that's 5 all-star pitchers and a 20 game winner in Jon Lieber if we need him, i'm confident

ct2k 08-01-2004 09:35 AM

Getting Nomar into the line-up can't do Maddux any harm tonight, i hope he gets the win he deserves it so much!

I think we get Cards/Giants on channel 5 tonight, and Jason Schmidt is starting so no complaints from me!

Terra Ryzin 08-01-2004 10:44 PM

GO METS!!!!

great trade, 3 of your best prospects for 2 pitchers looking at 30 in their walk year. Funny how Kazmir was so untouchable, even for Soriano, A-Rod, Zito ect, but they trade him for a pitcher who couldnt find the strike zone for the Big Show. Awesome Duquette, and Wilpont

DaveWadding 08-01-2004 10:45 PM

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...ubs_cxc115.jpg

NOMAH NOMAH NOMAH

The Miz 08-01-2004 10:50 PM

Yeah seriously Benson is incredibly overrated

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-02-2004 12:18 AM

Good thing we picked up all those defensive guys...worked out well today

Loose Cannon 08-02-2004 12:22 AM

^^lol is that sarcasm, if so, what happened? I haven't watched Baseball Tonight yet.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-02-2004 12:26 AM

Orlando booted a ball, legit, he kicked it

He did hit a dinger tho

Loose Cannon 08-02-2004 12:35 AM

lol.

Hey doesn't that guy in the pic up there look like Giambi? The guy with the black shirt on.

The Miz 08-02-2004 12:36 AM

Its one game stima :rant:

The Miz 08-02-2004 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
lol.

Hey doesn't that guy in the pic up there look like Giambi? The guy with the black shirt on.

nah if it was giambi hed probably be dizzy about to fall over

Loose Cannon 08-02-2004 12:41 AM

oh shit, I thought Nomar was giving the finger to the fans for a sec. wtf

ct2k 08-03-2004 10:14 PM

God fucking dammit the Yanks need another decent middle reliever, we can't rely on Quantrill and Gordon every goddamn game, Heredia has been very hit and miss this year and Sturtze just isn't doing the job as he has proven thus far against the A's

The Outlaw 08-04-2004 03:39 AM

Chill out.

Anyone read the story about The Rocket? Got tossed from a little league game. Said he spit a sunflower seed and it hit the umpire's leg. LOL what the

Loose Cannon 08-04-2004 11:15 PM

SHEFF just Jacked one out. Bottom 9 to tie it. WOOOOOO.

Dragon 08-05-2004 12:09 AM

A-Rod hits a homer to win it.

Loose Cannon 08-05-2004 12:11 AM

A-RODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. GOOD NIGHT A'S.

ct2k 08-05-2004 09:39 AM

Well that was well worth staying up til 5am to see:D

ct2k 08-05-2004 10:04 PM

And Kevin Brown just threw 8 shutout innings against the red hot A's.

:love:

ct2k 08-05-2004 10:12 PM

And Chicago has Robby Alomar...Can't hurt their chances

The Miz 08-06-2004 10:56 PM

Rockies traded Larry Walker to the Cardinals :|

The Miz 08-06-2004 10:58 PM

1. Womack
2. Renteria
3. Pujols
4. Rolen
5. Edmonds
6. Walker
7. Matheny
8. Lankford/Mabry/Cedeno
9. pitcher

God damn, hot lineup

The Miz 08-07-2004 02:07 AM

haha anyone see the ending to the D-Rays game. Only the Mariners :(

Loose Cannon 08-07-2004 02:08 AM

Nah, we don't get any Triple A games here.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 08-07-2004 02:10 AM

Heard the Sox last again..god damn

I didnt really see any of the game, but they better make the playoffs this year. With that Roster I really don't see how they aren't atleast a Wildcard winner :rant:

The Miz 08-07-2004 02:13 AM

Texas loss today is the start of a big losing streak, trust me. The lack of pitching depth is finally going to haunt them which is why Oakland will be taking the West and Boston the wildcard

The Miz 08-07-2004 02:14 AM

BTW the AL playoff teams are gonna be the same as last year.

The Miz 08-07-2004 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Nah, we don't get any Triple A games here.

A bunch of Triple A guys did pretty good last year against the Yankees in the series. :?:

ct2k 08-07-2004 08:14 AM

Jesus, that Cards line-up is ridiculous

BCWWF 08-08-2004 10:49 PM

We should walk away with it now.

Oh no! Freddy Garcia, Carl Everett, ROBERTO ALOMAR :eek: NOOOOOO

BTW, 18 innings today? WTF

The Miz 08-08-2004 11:15 PM

Hey on the bright side they played 2 games and only lost 1

BCWWF 08-08-2004 11:20 PM

Lol. We have a tough August, but at least we are playing good now so I'm confident that nobody creeps up on us now.

The Miz 08-08-2004 11:24 PM

Well it's definately not Chicago, the only team that has a chance to sneak up is Cleveland if they can get really hot and the Twins slack off a little. But I doubt it considering how much more experienced the Twins are. They'll probably have to face the Yankees in the 1st round again though :wavesad:

BCWWF 08-08-2004 11:41 PM

I think we would most likely play the A's in the first round actually. I'm not sure how it works, but our record will either be 2nd or 3rd best while the Yankee's are the best, so I am pretty sure the only way we would play them is if Boston got the Wildcard and we were third in the AL. I don't know if that makes any sense?

Cleveland will be real good in a year or two, but they don't have the pitching to catch up this year.

I think we have a better chance of upsetting them this year than last. As of todays newspaper Santana is the AL leader in ERA as well as K's, Juan Rincon has a 9-4 record with the second best ERA as a middle reliever, Joe Nathan is one of the top closers in the AL this year, and Radke is top 15 in ERA. If we could somehow get Miguel Batista through wavers I wouldn't call us a huge underdog if we played right now. Than again, a lot will probably change, they will have everyone back and we won't be as hot, so meh.

BCWWF 08-08-2004 11:44 PM

By the way, The Cardinals are my second team and are running away with the NL now, but it is a stretch to say that they are a better team than the Cubs. Come playoff time when the Cubs are healthy, good offense great pitching, that will be the series of the year.


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