MOyer is pitching rather nicely tonight for the M's. Normally I'd be happy about that, because I like Seattle, but not tonight, not against my Jays.

Mariners about to take the series with Toronto. :)

damn M's.

(second favourite team)

VicTORRI

As in Torri Hunter

Big Papi with another walk off ... no big deal.

I'm just waiting for Matt LeCroy to sign with the Red Sox and become the next MVP.

Q: How much does it cost to get swept by the Royals?

A: 220 million dollars :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

GOD DAMN GIANTS

They got swept? Lol I haven't been watching enough baseball lately. One of the columns in our paper was about how the Royals, after admitting there was racial tension, adding a losing manager, all this shit, beat the red hot Yankees behind I think it was RJ.

I used to hate the Royals when they were decent (2003), but I can't now. They are just like the little brother. Their games are awesome because they just do everything for the fans, because nobody would go otherwise.

Tigers get:
2B/3B Placido Polanco

Phillies get:
RHP Ugueth Urbina
SS/3B Ramon Martinez

Good trade for the Phillies, improved their bullpen and now Utley can play full time.

Bobby Cox, please be the man and let Horacio Ramirez skip a start. I want to see Hudson vs. Zito :(

Word. :(

God damned Jays. This road trip was supposed to be the trip that got them neck and neck with Baltimore. Playing sub .500 teams on a huge road trip. They are playing poorly, getting beat by no name pitchers in Seattle, Oakland, Chicago(actually they played good there) and now Houston. Now of course not all the pitchers are no namers, but a lot of them have been. Arrrrg. I wish.... ARGGGGGGG!

<font color=goldenrod>SSSSSSSS @ that Mets game yesterday

Marlon Anderson inside-the-park HR to tie it in the 8th.....and then in the 10th Floyd came inches away from a walk-off HR and then got the real thing a few pitches later :cool:, most exciting Mets game of the year thus far</font>

I love the Mets as well

Hee Sop Choi with 3 homers? WTF

Six home runs in three games, apparently the Twins don't know hot to pitch to him

Hey Scot, the Jays got some pretty good players in the draft.

They drafted my boyyyyy. I used to play ball with him back in the day.

So what, Grady Sizemore of the Indians has a career .000 batting average (0-1) against me in high school baseball, WHATS UP NOW THE OUTLAW

Fucking Clint Barnes breaking his collarbone over deer meat!! :mad:

You wanna fight? :'(

How did you get the out? :o

Flyout. He actually hit it pretty hard, just right at the center fielder. It was sweet, he hit like .640 his senior year and people were already talking MLB signings and shit. I was a sophomore and was scared shitless of him; he whiffed at my first curve, then took a changeup for a ball and then F-8'ed. Highlight of baseball career. :cool:

P.S. 1000 for Ichiro. :)

I had tickets to that game and didn't go too, shit.

Sizemore must be pretty young then. I assume you are around my age (19-20), so he'd only be like 22 or so right?

There was a lot of cool shit like that in Minnesota when Joe Mauer was a senior in high school. I guess he hit some of the biggest home runs and like in his high school career only K'ed three times. You must feel like such a stud if you were one of those three.

I'm 20 he's probably 22 or 23, it's his 2nd year in the big leagues.

Stupid ass Mets signed Danny Graves. Fuck

Why is that bad, or do you hate the Mets?

Do you remember that one time when the Reds were beating the Cardinals like 9-2, and then came back to win it by a run in like one inning? That was all because of Danny Graves. He gave up like two home runs. He pitched a bunch really shitty games with the Reds, then he flicked off a fan or something because they said he sucked, so that gave the Reds a good reason to fire him.

Danny Graves still has good stuff. He will be wasted on the Mets though

WTF GAY ASS YANKEES. Sheffield was out at first, they called him safe, next batter Posada doubles and they tie it, then win it in extras.

Although, it was worth it to see A-Rod being gunned down at the plate by 20 feet, and trying to run over the catcher and falling flat on his face while the catcher just stood there.

My Bucs got beat. Buisiness as usual.

I actually like what the Mets are doing right now. They are building their team a lot smarter then the Yankees.

Anyway, did anybody see Joe Mauer trip tonight? I was at the game, he hit a sweet ball to the wall in center and I swear it would have been a possible in the parker, but as he rounded first he just fell on his face. I think he might have had a chance at getting to third after the fall, but anyway. The Twins have awful first inning pitching and Justin Morneau hasn't been hitting at all lately. Torii is the man though.

1. The fan supposedly threw a racial slur at him (His mother is Vietnamese).

2. He's good.

3. Danny Graves has never been pissed on

4. AssMan has

Lol, the poll on ESPN.com today is:

Who will win the AL East?
Baltimore
Boston
New York
Toronto

You've got to feel like shit if you are Tampa Bay. Why don't they just move them and get it over with?

You have a valid point, The Miz.

fucking Orioles need to cut this winning bullshit out. Getting sick and tired of this.

NO LC, it is nice to see new blood at the top.

Orioles
White Sox
Twins
Rangers

Yankees
Red Sox
Rangers
Other Sox

Red Sox
Angels
White Sox
Twins

The Rangers have no chance, even in that crappy division. Past Rogers & Young their pitching is a joke

Veriteks block at the plate the other night was fucking sweet

I too think it's a little early to call Kenny Rogers a Cy Young candidate. He started similar to this last year as well.

Also, I assume the playoffs looks like what Miz had, but it would be so random if it were the four I posted. No Sox, no Yanks, no Angels.

One difference between Rogers stats this year and last is his ERA. He does tend to fade in the second half, but you can't assume he will, not with the way he's been pitching this year over the previous years.

I hope Halladay and Pedro win the Cy's, but its still pretty early so anything can happen.

God damn Dodgers

Hey where is that guy who said the Mets were gonna win the East, does he want me to laugh in his face now or save it for end of the season

The Yankees have come back from a 10-2 deficit and have made it 20-11 now.

Pretty ridiculous, so many home runs are being hit right now. I almost feel bad for this pitcher the Devil Rays have in right now, he just gave up 13 runs in the eighth inning.

lol Why didn't they pull him

experience :roll:

he sure got an experience :lol:

He was the last one in the bullpen

They shoulda brought in some position player who was on the bench, what's the worst that could happen

Pinnella wants out of TBay, he won't quit so I think he's working on getting fired.

lol the other day I got woke up when dad chucked a spazz over that big innings Kansas City had

Kansas City is somehow real hot since they got the new manager.

Anyway, Pinella should be let out of Tampa Bay. They should either move the team or else move Crawford and Pinella out of there so they can matter on a real team.

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Nice Yanks lost to the D-Backs. Red Sox won

Kenny Rogers just gave up 4 runs on 5 hits in the 1st inning against the Angels

Bye bye Rangers :wave:

Supposedly Eric Gagne won't be back until next year's All-Star game.

Another Cy Young caliber pitcher ruined by the Dodgers staff. AWESOME

:( :'( :rant: Damnit. Well, im glad the dodgers finally broke their losing streak tonight, but its gonna be tough without Gagne..

Kotsay could be dealt. Rumors are to the Yankees or Cubs.

Yeah I've heard the Yankees getting Kotsay rumor

What pissed me off, on talk radio the other day they mentioned something that I never thought of. The Twins probably could have traded Kyle Lohse for Placido Polanco, which would have given us a legit No. 2 hitter with good defense. He is like exactly who we needed. We either need a 2B, SS, or 3B who can hit, because if Morneau is going to be a dumbass we aren't going to come back in the central.

lol yeah

If the A's deal Kotsay to the Yanks they are pussies. All they are offering is 2 prospects, a guy who's hitting .230 in AA and an 18-year-old pitcher who is tearing up A. These guys could be huge busts, and the A's have enough prospects, they need major leaguers who are ready to play today, not in 2007 or 2008. Not worth trading their best player and one of the best defensive CF's in the last 5 years.

I agree, the other part is that I think Kotsay would be a really good addition for the Yankees, really help them a lot. With that said, I also thought that this years Yankees team would be the best since...maybe 98? Whichever one of those teams was the best.

This leads into another thing. The Oakland Athletics are really pretty big dumbshits when it all comes down to it. The reason they would be trading Kotsay is because he is a free agent after the year (or maybe he has one more year or something, but pretty sure this year). That is the reason that they can never be amazing, they run the same type of program as the Twins but they are too retarded to keep the good players. Why would you just wait until Miguel Tajada and Jason Giambi become free agents to resign them? The Twins made sure to get Torii Hunter and Johan Santana resigned before they became free agents, so they were still in our range. The A's could be the best team in baseball right now if they learned to resign their players before they became free agents.

What the hell are you talking about? Tejada did not want an extension. He made it clear from quite some time that 2003 would be his last season in Oakland, regardless of what they offered him.

ROFL

And I'd hardly call the GM retarded, I'd say that the deals for 2 of the big 3 worked out quite nicely in Oakland's favor.

I agree about Kotsay though, he wants 3 years $27 million, I'd give it to him.

Come on. Jason Giambi was one of the best players in baseball when he was in Oakland. Developing great prospects can only get you so far, you have to keep the core guys if you ever want to win. Now the A's are set up to have a great group of prospects come up again, but by the time they get there the veterans will be gone. Starting with Kotsay, then Zito, just judging by history I would have to assume Chavez's time is limited. They just have to do something to keep their guys unless they just want to stay a farm team for the rest of the MLB.

Chavez is locked up with a 7 year deal. I believe.

At least they got it right with one guy. But you can't be successful without keeping your guys.

Yeah. I have a rant and rave about how they run the organization. But I'm sick of defending them every fuck time they do something like this. If they trade Kotsay, my head will be raw from the scratching.

I just wrote another rant about how the Twins keep good players and let the shit get huge contracts elsewhere, but I erased it so you wouldn't all hate me.

went to the nationals game yesterday and gonna go to a Cubs or Sox game next week wooo

Watch out for the ground crew's hose

Considering the Yankees need a CF, I would expect the A's could garner more than what's being discussed.

The Yankees have a shitty farm system. They are offering their best 2 prospects for Kotsay. Duncan is Adam Dunn part 2 and will be in the majors next year with someone, and Hughes is an 18-year old with a history of injuries but dominated A-ball. The Yankees have no prospects to offer past these 2, and there is no one on the MLB team who the A's want because they are all old, slow, and overpaid. The A's are set in the infield for the next 5 years with Chavez, Crosby, Scutaro, and Johnson. They do however need outfielders and Matsui, Sheffield, and Williams are not going anywhere and the A's wouldn't want them anyway.

I don't see the A's shipping Kotsay at the deadline unless it is 100% that the A's cannot resign him. If they trade him, they can forget about being the AL west favorites in 2006. Eric Chavez has proven he cannot lead a team and Bobby Crosby is not Miguel Tejada; yet. Kotsay is "the guy" in Oakland, period.

If the Mariners were smart they would try to ship Randy Winn for pitching (Wang, Stanton, i dunno) because Jeremy Reed > your mother. Winn is not a long term solution but they'll get a hell of a lot more production out of him than Bernie Washup and Tony Womack.

Oakland can ask for Wang as well, don't you see.

The Yankees have said they are not going to trade their young guys, Wang and Cano. Nobody wants their old guys. Whoops.

And even if the Yankees were offering Wang, the last thing Oakland needs is starting pitching.

Rich Harden
Barry Zito
Danny Haren
Joe Blanton
Kirk Saarloos
Dan Meyer
John Rheineicker
Ryan Glynn

With the exception of Glynn, all of these guys have much more potential than Wang. They're set through 08.

why do you hate on the Yankees so much. I mean you're team is terrible and hasn't won anything ever. I don't get it.

I guess it's just easy to talk shit about the Yankees. Cause god knows everyone else does.

Where did I say the Yankees sucked, all I said was they have nothing to offer. But on the subject, my team sucks but all we have is a skinny Chinaman and .230 home run hitters. You have an all-star team and still are in 4th place.

You never said they sucked, but every thread that mentions the Yankees, you make some sarcastic comment about them. I mean, that's fine and all, but it's pretty dumb when your favorite team is doing just as bad.

It's not like I pull a BCWWF and pretend the Mariners are good. I know they are awful, i give them much more shit than I do the Yankees. I'd say its safe to say a 220 million dollar all-star team should be better than .500. Both the Mariners and Yankees are underachieving but the Yankees have much more considering their pieces.

alright, I'll give you that.

From yahoo...

Jun 26 Kotsay is believed to be seeking a two-year extension at the same $7 million per season to remian with the A's, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
Recommendation: That's a contract the A's would figure to be interested in. No official numbers have been discussed as yet however


Also, our outfield isn't too terrible. Brynes and Swisher is there too. Have you seen what Swisher can do (when he can do it). The problem is they are both in some slumps or are either injured at the same time.

We sure as hell don't need a 2nd baseman. We have Scuturo, Ellis, and Ginter.

I think the A's have a highly underrated defense. The offense is another story.

That's surprising because I heard he wanted more money on his extention but I think he's currently making around 7 mil.

Anyway, even though their outfield isn't horrible, it could be much better and it has no depth. Byrnes makes web gems every time he's out there but that doesn't make his defense not horrible. Weak arm, dives for balls he has no shot at, misses cutoffs, not sound fundamentally. The polar opposite of Mark Kotsay. There is like a 99% chance he will be gone next year anyway with Barton, Cust and (maybe) Ethier big-league ready next year.

Yeah you have 3 second baseman but they're all expendable. Ellis is just an okay hitter, Scutaro is just an okay fielder, and Ginter is the worst player in the history of mjaor league baseball. Not really, but he won't be on the team for long. Beane would not hesitate to unload Ellis for a reliever, considering you'd still have Scutaro and Quintanilla coming up soon.

The A's defense is excellent, and I think they will be a much stronger offensive team next year. I like them to win the West next year if Kotsay stays. If Kotsay goes they could be in last.

Yeah, wtf with Ginter. On my MVP 05 Owner mode he's doing decent. I wish video games were real life.

Isn't Cust an infielder?

And I have Quintanilla's autograph. I'm surprised you've even heard of him. He was a non-roster player in the spring. Either you keep up to date, or you just went to some depth chart website. Either way, I don't mind.

PS, also in my owner mode, Charles Johnson is like the A's equivelent of Tony Clark. He's on an insane hitting streak.

Everyone always needs more pitching. A's have always gone deep in that catergory.

Cust is a 1B/OF but they are loaded at 1B so he will probably spend more time in OF. I see him DHing most of the time though.

Nah I keep up to date with Mariners and A's. I know alot more about Mariners stuff but A's are second fave team so yeah. Check out these sites if you dont already

http://as-future.blogspot.com/
http://www.athleticsnation.com/

LMAO

Apparently Eric Gagne doesn't need surgery, but is still out til Spring Training.

Why Wang? It's not like he's Mark Prior or some amazing pitching prospect. Every starter on the A's staff is better than Wang and they have at least 2 AAA guys that are better. Not only better, but younger. Wang is like 26. Not that that's old, but A's have much better pitchers that are 24 and younger. Wang is MLB-ready now and there's no place in the rotation for him. Oakland have 8 people to fill 5 spots in 2006, there is no need for a 9th who has no shot anyway. Wang and 2 hitting prospects is still not worth Kotsay.

Red Sox actually have a real good prospect whos open to be dealt, Schopick, Triple A catcher. He will probably be good enough for the majors real soon but there is no place on the roster for him. So I would have no problem with him getting dealt - especially if they can somehow get Schedmit with him. I don't see that happening though. I would pretty pissed if they traded Hanley Ramirez - I have been hearing about this guy for a while. He is the Red Sox top prospect right now with Youkilis on the MLB roster fulltime. I've been hearing that Hanley has been playing some outfield - that might become important with Damon being a free agent after this season, also it makes sense because Hanleys 1st position (SS) is locked up for atleast the next 4 years with Renteria. I would hate to see Damon go but it will be tough to keep him due to Boras being his agent plus the fact that Damon has said he wants to return only if the group of the guys they got now stay together. Damon wants guys like Bellhorn and Millar around but who knows if thats going to happen with the way they have been performing.

I know that was pretty random but all this talk about prospects woooop

You brought up Wang, I was using him as your example. You've taken me too literal.

Wang and Hughes are the only pitchers the Yankees can offer. Not enough for Kotsay.

I heard like a week ago that the Red Sox were interested in Kotsay because they were anticipating Damon leaving. That would work better for Oakland because Boston actually has something to offer to them. I doubt it though, Red Sox seem to be "interested" in every player the Yankees are interested in.