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RoXer 04-18-2006 01:14 AM

R0Xer1: Johnny Estrada just made Tim Worell look like Nolan Ryan
R0Xer1: and Andy Green swings first pitch
R0Xer1: popped up to end the game
R0Xer1: GO DBACKS

The Miz 04-18-2006 11:36 AM

Hard to take Leyland seriously when he's the same guy who batted Alexis Gomez (.125) fifth in front of Chris Shelton and Carlos Guillen.

BCWWF 04-18-2006 03:21 PM

Shelton is a fluke

To a certain extent

The Miz 04-18-2006 03:28 PM

He's a fluke in the sense that hes not going to keep hitting homers at this pace but he is still the best hitter on that team and is going to hit 35+ homers with a .900 OPS.

BCWWF 04-18-2006 03:47 PM

I don't see him hitting more than 35 this season. My estimate would be 30-35.

ct2k 04-18-2006 05:05 PM

A better hitter than Guillen?

YOUR Hero 04-18-2006 07:44 PM

he sure looks good at the plate at the moment.

Dragon 04-18-2006 07:53 PM

Randy Johnson not looking good at all, looking a lot like the beginning of last year. When you are up 4-0 going into the bottom of the first you don't expect to be losing 4-6 in the bottom of the second.

Dragon 04-18-2006 07:55 PM

Haven't really payed much attention to the Blue Jays at all, looks like they are hitting well so far though. I think they said 9 of their players are batting .300 or higher.

loopydate 04-18-2006 08:08 PM

Shelton put in a ton of work during the offseason. I think he may have actually reported to Lakeland before the pitchers and catchers this year, just so he could have extra time to work out at the team facilities.

The thing is, he'll keep getting pitches because he's the #6 hitter on the team. That lineup is so stacked, that they can't pitch around him because odds are that some combination of Granderson, Polanco, Pudge, Magglio, or D Young will aleady be on base with Guillen, Monroe, and Inge (all capable hitters) following behind him. So, I don't think 35 or maybe even 40 HRs are out of the question for him.

Evil Vito 04-18-2006 10:21 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Going to the Mets game tomorrow. Glavine vs. Hudson, should be pretty fun.

Some Mets fans REALLY piss me off though. They are 10-3, best record in the league, 4 games up in the NL East

..but even when they play like absolute crap for one game (with their least reliable pitcher on the hill and missing 3 regulars, including 2 of their best 4 hitters), they preach hellfire and declare tomorrow's game to be the whole season :|

Fucking morons.

Anyways, pumped for the game...hopefully at least one of Floyd/Beltran can come back.</font>

YOUR Hero 04-18-2006 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon
Haven't really payed much attention to the Blue Jays at all, looks like they are hitting well so far though. I think they said 9 of their players are batting .300 or higher.

middle relief. That'll be my Jays achilles heel over the season. If the strters can go long as much as the hype is stating they can/will, it won't matter. BUT already this year there have been times where the closers got out of the game early and the middle relief has been very suspect.

YOUR Hero 04-18-2006 10:24 PM

oh and when Benji Molina tags up of a fly ball and makes it to third without a throw, you know Damon's arm is bad. BUT he sure made a lot of nice running cathces tonight.

Joey Slugs 04-18-2006 10:32 PM

Five minor leaguers suspended
 
Quote:

Arizona's Angel Rocha faces 100-game suspension

Major League Baseball suspended five minor league players for violating baseball’s Minor League Drug Prevention and Treatment program, including the first two-time violator.

Diamondbacks lefthander Angel Rocha, 21, was suspended for 100 games, essentially ending his season. Also suspended, for 50 games as first-time offenders, were Angels righthander Karl Gelinas; Mets righthander Jorge Reyes; Cardinals outfielder Yonathan Sivira; and Padres righthander Matt Varner. All five were suspended for using performance enhancing substances, according to a release by MLB.

Rocha, signed out of the Dominican Republic in 2002, was 14-24, 4.93 in 317 career minor league innings, only 87 of which have come in full-season ball. He made one start with Triple-A Tucson in 2004, his career highlight. Rocha was not on an Opening Day roster.

Like Rocha, Reyes, 21, is from the Dominican Republic. He went 4-5, 5.20 last season, his first in the U.S., while playing for short-season Brooklyn. Reyes had opened the season with low Class A Hagerstown and was off to a good start for the Suns, throwing 11 innings in his first two starts and posting a 2.45 ERA.

Sivira, 22, signed out of Venezuela and like Reyes had yet to play full-season ball prior to 2006. He hit .253-2-17 for short-season New Jersey last season. He started this season at low Class A Quad Cities and was off to a 2-for-10 start.

Gelinas, a 22-year-old Canadian from Quebec, went 11-8, 3.81 last season at low Class A Cedar Rapids and walked just 20 in 151 innings. He was at high Class A Rancho Cucamonga in 2006, losing each of his first two starts while posting a 7.59 ERA.

Varner, 24, was an 11th-round pick out of the University of Houston and had 34 saves last season at low Class A Fort Wayne. He was 0-1, 7.36 with three saves in four games at high Class A Lake Elsinore this season.
from BaseballAmerica.com

The Icon of Elisim 04-18-2006 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
middle relief. That'll be my Jays achilles heel over the season. If the strters can go long as much as the hype is stating they can/will, it won't matter. BUT already this year there have been times where the closers got out of the game early and the middle relief has been very suspect.

I like Fraser and Spier in the 7th and 8th and Pete Walker for before that. Thats pretty good but you're right another arm or two is gonna be important.

Hopefully by platooning at both corner infield spots someone will develope some serious trade value. Hinske and Hillenbrand could be packaged into something pretty nice if Hillenbrand starts to heat up.

The Miz 04-18-2006 11:49 PM

Nick Swisher with 4 home runs in 3 games :o

Dragon 04-19-2006 01:42 PM

Wow, awful call by the 2nd base ump in the Yankees/Blue Jays game. The ump called Damon out when the 2nd baseman clearly never was holding onto the ball. The ump called him out, then was confused and calls him safe. Then ultimately just calls him out for good.

ct2k 04-19-2006 01:46 PM

Still not had a Yankee game in the UK this season:(

I'm hoping Mussina can do what he does best tonight and give us a good outing...But Vernon Wells is on my fantasy team so i want him to go atleast 5-5, just no RBI's or extra bases.

I hate divided loyalties:'(

ct2k 04-19-2006 04:36 PM

Mussina:cool:

Joey Slugs 04-19-2006 06:03 PM

sweeeeep!

The Outlaw 04-19-2006 08:51 PM

HUDSSSSSSSSSSSSSON

Evil Vito 04-19-2006 09:12 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Thanks for fucking my fantasy team's pitching stats over for the week by leaving Westbrook out there, Eric Wedge :mad:

Also, Jose Valentin badly needs to be given some steroids. Let him get power back for a few games, then we can lose him when he is suspended as a result</font> :shifty:

YOUR Hero 04-19-2006 10:32 PM

The Jays are playing too many games earlier than normal so far this year. This pisses me off as I miss them due to having to work for a living.

Is this the same for other teams? IE playing earlier than normal.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-19-2006 10:34 PM

Nope, regular 7:05 start times

Schilling picked up his 4th win toniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite

Dragon 04-19-2006 10:37 PM

Yeah, besides the 12:30 start today it's been regular start times.

Gonzo 04-19-2006 10:48 PM

Padres 1-4 at home this season and the Mets have a 4 game series coming up with them. :cool:

BCWWF 04-19-2006 11:34 PM

LEW FORD + MICHAEL CUDDYER = TWiNS BASEBALL MOTHER FUCKER

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-19-2006 11:50 PM

Anyone think its weird how minor leaguers keep constantly getting caught while guys in the majors arent? Could mean a different number of things; dudes in the minors not having enough resources to hide it, minor leagues taking it to get to the "next level," or maybe the MLB is going out of their way to catch these guys to show that they their system is actaully working. Pretty sure the minors got a stricter testing policy too though since there is no players union or anything (if I remember correctly, Selig put it into place one year before MLB got one)

The Icon of Elisim 04-20-2006 12:31 AM

Prob has something to do with alot more players being in the minors. That and guys who know they won't make it unless they cheat

BCWWF 04-20-2006 01:39 AM

And there is the issue that the minor league players aren't as well informed in terms of knowing exactly what they are taking.

OssMan 04-20-2006 10:25 PM

www.thegamelive.com woooooooo

Evil Vito 04-20-2006 11:08 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Holy crap, Matsui entered the record books last year by becoming the first player ever to hit a HR in his first AB of the season for 2 straight seasons...

and now he extended that streak with an inside-the-park HR in his first AB this year</font> :eek:

Loose Cannon 04-21-2006 10:39 PM

and there goes Burnett. Didn't take long.

Yankees sucking big time right now.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-21-2006 10:45 PM

Damn Beckett had 2 ER after 7 but then gave up 3 in the 8th :mad:

Gertner 04-21-2006 11:19 PM

hahahah nice bullpen boston.

THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE JAYS WIN!

McDoogle 04-21-2006 11:20 PM

Good game.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-21-2006 11:51 PM

Seanez is fuckin awful, damn he has pitched awful every single time he has gone out there it seems. Even Foulke pitched pretty decent tonight and that dude has to blow it. Papelbon was lights out again thoughhh

SkyDome or Rogers Center or whatever its called now has a pretty shitty atmosphere, sounded like nobody was there until the 9th inning.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-22-2006 02:58 AM

Derrick Lee won't be able to masturbate for two months now.

YOUR Hero 04-22-2006 11:55 AM

Jays need to get serious. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Joey Slugs 04-22-2006 01:43 PM

Let's Go White Sox! *clap clap clapclapclap*
Let's Go White Sox! *clap clap clapclapclap*

Joey Slugs 04-22-2006 01:46 PM

Derrick Lee = :wavesad:

Cubs Fans = :lol:

Gertner 04-22-2006 03:06 PM

ouch 8-1 jays in the 6th. kinda sucks stima when you actually play good teams eh?

ct2k 04-22-2006 03:09 PM

Fuckin Jays could actually contend for the playoffs this year with the hitting they've got, but i guess as always it all depends on pitching. Though Vernon Wells = :y: for fantasy baseball :cool:

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-22-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L L Cool G
ouch 8-1 jays in the 6th. kinda sucks stima when you actually play good teams eh?

So let get this straight, Red Sox where smacking the Jays yesterday but then made a bad decision leaving the starter in too long allowing Toronto to get back into the game and they lost in extra innings. Now granted the Sox are getting smacked today, but for the most part the majority of the games between the 2 teams have been pretty close (decided by 1 or 2 runs) As for the "world beaters" you talked about earlier, didn't the Blue Jays lose 2 outta 3 to Tampa Bay?

Also take a look at who you rocked, he isn't even a starting pitcher, Papelbon was suppose to take over incase of an injury in the rotation but he is too busy being the best closer in baseball and he didn't cost the Red Sox 50 millon dollars either :cool:

Oh yeah - I don't play for the Red Sox, so I dunno why you keep refering to me like I do.

Buttt just like everyone else, we'll see whats up at the end of the season.

ct2k 04-22-2006 03:23 PM

My AL East Prediction =

Sox
Yanks
Jays
O's
Rays

I hope i'm wrong:\

ct2k 04-22-2006 03:25 PM

Brewers:eek:

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-22-2006 03:28 PM

I am not sure how it will turn out, but I am worried about the Wildcard. Since the Jays seem to be pretty legit this year, Red Sox are obviously good and the Yankees line up is flat out ridiculous it'll be tough for a team to win the wildcard in the AL East. I hope the Red Sox can win the East outright, but the WC only improves the chance of making the playoffs obviously.

ct2k 04-22-2006 03:31 PM

It'd be nice to see the Jays in the playoffs for once but i can't see them getting 1st or 2nd

toxic rooster 04-22-2006 10:15 PM

Indians bats have been on fire this year, 6 guys above .300. Blake and Haf among others have started the year well. Getting shut out a week ago to the Tigers started something.

Just a pity about the defence not being able to back up the run support. That and losing 2 relievers in one inning, as well as CC hasn't helped.

BCWWF 04-22-2006 10:17 PM

Ugh, Radke

Joey Slugs 04-23-2006 03:08 AM

Jim Fucking Thome. nuff said.

Joey Slugs 04-23-2006 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ct2k
Brewers:eek:

5 HRs in one inning? ouch.

D Mac 04-23-2006 06:39 AM

The Royals won today! That's it. We're turning this thing around RIGHT NOW.




:shifty:

YOUR Hero 04-23-2006 11:19 AM

how long is Lee out for?

YOUR Hero 04-23-2006 11:20 AM

2-3 months...

YOUR Hero 04-23-2006 11:21 AM

An examination by Cubs doctors in Chicago Thursday determined that Lee has two broken bones in his right wrist. The Cubs' first baseman fractured the distal radial and distal ulna bones in a collision with the Dodgers' Rafael Furcal in Los Angeles Wednesday night. Lee is expected to be in a cast up to six weeks.

Gertner 04-23-2006 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34
So let get this straight, Red Sox where smacking the Jays yesterday but then made a bad decision leaving the starter in too long allowing Toronto to get back into the game and they lost in extra innings. Now granted the Sox are getting smacked today, but for the most part the majority of the games between the 2 teams have been pretty close (decided by 1 or 2 runs) As for the "world beaters" you talked about earlier, didn't the Blue Jays lose 2 outta 3 to Tampa Bay?

Also take a look at who you rocked, he isn't even a starting pitcher, Papelbon was suppose to take over incase of an injury in the rotation but he is too busy being the best closer in baseball and he didn't cost the Red Sox 50 millon dollars either :cool:

Oh yeah - I don't play for the Red Sox, so I dunno why you keep refering to me like I do.

Buttt just like everyone else, we'll see whats up at the end of the season.

the Jays have rocked fat ass wells, golden boy clement now a trillion times.

And B.J Ryan > Papelbon

yeah Stima but the Jays have at least beaten credible teams. Who have the sox beaten except for the jays once?

YOUR Hero 04-23-2006 01:14 PM

Man alive, doe Ortiz ever swing a lot at the 1st pitch. 2 run HR against Towers.

Gertner 04-23-2006 01:19 PM

friggen towers has been awful so far this year. can't get control of his command

YOUR Hero 04-23-2006 01:22 PM

he's not got enough zip on his fastball and he's not hitting the corners (yet) like he needs to, to be successful.

Dragon 04-23-2006 05:15 PM

Nice to see Johnson have such a good outing after that last one.

8 IP, 1 ER, 3 hits (all by Tejada).

Two nice starts in a row for the Yankees, Chacon and then Johnson today, hasn't happened often this year. Hopefully Moose continues to pitch well and does in his next start.

AL East is gonna be ridiculous this year.

Dragon 04-23-2006 05:18 PM

Have the Devil Rays next, so hopefully that series goes well. Jays and Sox are after that so it would be nice to have some momentum going into those series.

YOUR Hero 04-23-2006 06:36 PM

Last Johnson start looked like he had a dead arm. Sounds like if that was the case, he's over it.

The Miz 04-23-2006 06:58 PM

ESPN sucks. According to them, the only teams in baseball are:

St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs
Atlanta Braves
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
New York Mets
Barry Bonds

Boring. Why can't the game of the week ever be Rangers/Indians? Phillies/D'backs? Twins/Blue Jays?

BCWWF 04-23-2006 08:19 PM

Yeah, the Yankees one is kind of out there, they are 7-7

CNM 04-23-2006 10:00 PM

Tell me about it Miz. I rarely watch Sunday Night Baseball anymore because it's the same teams over and over again.

ct2k 04-24-2006 08:11 AM

Generally it means we get good games here in the UK, although i think it was back in 99 or 00, we got atleast a dozen stinking Orioles games because ESPN got it wrong:rant:

The Miz 04-24-2006 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
Yeah, the Yankees one is kind of out there, they are 7-7

It's not even about that, it's that no matter how good or bad these teams are or who is on them, they are always going to be on TV. This year the Blue Jays, White Sox, A's, Brewers, and hell even the Rockies look to be some of the best teams in their respective divisions but that isn't going to get them any closer to getting more Sunday Night games (unless they happen to be playing the Braves, Yanks, BoSox, Cards, Mets, Cubs or Bonds's). And it shouldn't even always be about the best teams either, they should show Pirates/Reds every once in a while just so we can see every team. ESPN analysts complain about how guys like Todd Helton, Jason Bay, Mark Teixiera etc. are "underrated"; well maybe if you showed their team's games every once in a while insetad of Cardinals vs. Cubs every single week, more people would rate them higher.

The Miz 04-24-2006 10:41 AM

Damn Esteban Loaiza is terrible. Hitting 82 on the gun and probably isn't going to make his next start due to a combination of back spasms and sucking. What a waste of money that would be if Saarloos steps up in his spot and pitches like he did last year and Loaiza is left with nothing to contribute.

Joey Slugs 04-24-2006 03:45 PM

another sweeeeeeeeep!

FakeLaser 04-24-2006 04:05 PM

Yankees lead the AL in ERA and are first in MLB in runs scored. I'm thinking we'll do ok.

The Miz 04-24-2006 04:50 PM

I just read that once in 2000, Toronto put this deal on the table:

Toronto gets:
SP Pedro Astacio
RP Jose Jiminez

Colorado gets:
SP Roy Halladay
SP Chris Carpenter
OF Vernon Wells

...and Colorado turned it down, because the owner didn;t want to trade the popular Astacio

The Miz 04-24-2006 04:58 PM

1. Roy Halladay
2. Chris Carpenter
3. Jason Jennings
4. Jeff Francis
5. Aaron Cook

Would be the best rotation in the NL

CNM 04-24-2006 05:33 PM

Actually, the way I understood it, it was just for Vernon Wells. But yes, the Rockies owners are morons. They also turned down an Astacio for Alfonso Soriano trade that same summer.

The Outlaw 04-24-2006 07:11 PM

lol

YOUR Hero 04-24-2006 09:58 PM

I wish Toronto wouldn't have given up on Carpenter. Coming up he was the better prospect over Halladay. Carpenter's injuries slowed down his development big time but the Jays should have kept him.

The Miz 04-24-2006 10:00 PM

Hard to say what kind of success he would've had had he stayed in Toronto. Nowhere near the success in St. Louis, I can guarantee you that much.

toxic rooster 04-24-2006 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNM
Actually, the way I understood it, it was just for Vernon Wells. But yes, the Rockies owners are morons. They also turned down an Astacio for Alfonso Soriano trade that same summer.


...wow. :$

The Miz 04-24-2006 10:45 PM

They also traded Chone Figgins for Kimera Bartee.

YOUR Hero 04-25-2006 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz
Hard to say what kind of success he would've had had he stayed in Toronto. Nowhere near the success in St. Louis, I can guarantee you that much.

Perhaps.

When he came up he was a harder thrower had great movement on his change up. Now that he's in St. Louis, I don't get to see him, but I wonder iof he is still throwing with the same type of zip.

YOUR Hero 04-25-2006 10:10 AM

Gotta nice start from Ervin Santana last night. This guy's looking promising.

OssMan 04-25-2006 10:50 PM

8-4-5 double play

YOUR Hero 04-25-2006 11:01 PM

Toronto cast off.

He had one hell of a slider. If he can hit his spots, get ahead and then go to that slider, he'll do well. IF IF IF...

The Miz 04-25-2006 11:01 PM

When are people (Peter Gammons) gonna stop sucking Jose Reyes' dick? Hes not that good at all

The Miz 04-25-2006 11:02 PM

MLBtv is awesome. I am watching every game at once!!!

The Miz 04-25-2006 11:04 PM

"He's not exactly a threat to steal, but the threat is there" - John Kruk

YOUR Hero 04-25-2006 11:11 PM

why did you delete your post about Gaudin?

BCWWF 04-26-2006 02:15 AM

Carpenter wasn't anything special until last season though, if I was Toronto I would be happy with Halliday.

Anyway, I got to my first game tonight, Twins at Kansas City. Pretty fun, it's only the second time I have even seen them this year since only one game has been on TV here. Ruben Sierra came off the bench and hit the game tying RBI, which was fun, and then Nathan got the save. I almost like going to away games more than home games.

ct2k 04-26-2006 05:34 AM

Twins are off to a rocky start, they can't let themselves get too far behind, Detroit are already on a roll :\

Mussina pulled another beauty out of the bag last night, that guy has had one of the most consistent careers every, like one losing season or something, and that was with the O's.

The Miz 04-26-2006 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
why did you delete your post about Gaudin?

Meant to post it on the ESPN A's message board, didn't think anyone here would even know who Gaudin is.

And Gaudin loses the game, in his first appearance of the season, coming in a tie game vs. the Rangers in the 9th inning. Don't get me wrong, he needs to get work, but not in that situation.

Evil Vito 04-26-2006 06:43 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Does baseball still mandate just one mandatory random drug test per year? Last year, after you were tested once you didn't have to be tested a 2nd time.

If that's the case, pretty obvious Bonds got tested early and is now back on the juice</font> :mad:

Dragon 04-26-2006 11:40 PM

Wow, awful game by the Yankees. The Devil Rays gave up 14 walks throughout the game and the Yankees only manage to score 2 runs and end up losing 4-2. 16 people LOB also, pretty ridiculous.

Bad baserunning as well and the offense just died.

But at least Chien-Ming Wang faired pretty well lol, which is good. 7 IP giving up 2 ER.

Gertner 04-27-2006 01:08 AM

nice outing by the jays tonight. Vernon Wells is money

Gertner 04-27-2006 01:09 AM

lol btw remember how bad i got reamed for saying Gustavo Chacin was better than Joe Blanton?

Are you guys ready to apologise to me yet?

RoXer 04-27-2006 01:57 AM

It's way too early and their stats are very similar. The only thing you could really argue is hits.

ct2k 04-27-2006 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L L Cool G
nice outing by the jays tonight. Vernon Wells is money

I heart Vernon Wells, he's still doing wonders for my fantasy team:drool:

FakeLaser 04-27-2006 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L L Cool G
lol btw remember how bad i got reamed for saying Gustavo Chacin was better than Joe Blanton?

Are you guys ready to apologise to me yet?

Blanton hasn't been too swift this year either...

Gertner 04-27-2006 12:42 PM

Chacin is 4-0

FakeLaser 04-27-2006 12:51 PM

My bad, read that post wrong. I thought you were saying Blanton was better.

The Outlaw 04-27-2006 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L L Cool G
lol btw remember how bad i got reamed for saying Gustavo Chacin was better than Joe Blanton?

Are you guys ready to apologise to me yet?

So going by your great logic, Bronson Arroyo, Erik Bedard, and Chacin are all better than Johan Santana.

Good point!


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