Wow, after watching the Sobral-Heath fight, yeh, Sobral needs to be suspended and/or terminated from his contract. What a piece of shit.

Nope.

Wow, pretty solid ppv imo. Main Event was immense, I had a bet on Couture through bodogfight and Rectal was right about the spread. I thought he was a solid underdog to bet on. It was close though, barely over 1 to 1 for Gonzaga.

I also had Grove picked to beat Cote, but I didnt care that Grove lost. Joe Stevenson had a good fight, and Huerta beat up another tiny 155'er. They need to put him up against some more serious competition. The low night for me was GSP and Koscheck. That fight should of been fireworks.

I think its awesome that Guida won the decision against Aurelio. Aurelio is a solid fighter. That win looks great on a record.

Couture would have beaten Fedor on that night in my opinion.

given enough time to train randy can come up with a plan to beat anyone.

I dont think Randy can beat Fedor. I love Randy so much right now. He's writing a story in this sport that has potential to be one of the greatest ever told ( if he meets and beats Fedor or perhaps Cro Crop ). But Fedor is no Tim Sylvia or Gonzaga and Fedor would murder Chuck Liddell. Randy hasnt seen anything like Fedor.

Then again. He who doubt Randy, is a fool so...

Been reading that Couture won with a broken arm. That's insane if it's true.

Anybody got a link to the whole fight? Anytime I youtube a ufc fight I can never find it.

Fedor has to lose. Nobody is unbeatable. Fujita rocked him and he isn't the best striker he has fought. And on the ground, anyone can be beat.

When he blocked the last high kick, it broke his arm. And he still threw bombs with it! LEGEND! See what I can do about a link.

UFC has a conference call this Thursday with various fighters including MATT HAMILL. :rofl:

Thank you for making my day

You know what was weird about that high kick. I was at a bar and the sounds was low (which is odd as it's usually really loud) so I could hardly hear a thing. But I swear I heard a loud "wack" with that kick. I thought he caught him in the face and was amazed Couture stayed on his feet. Then I find out he broke his arm.

Good thing it wasn't his jaw.

http://www.nodqforums.com/showthread.php?t=151919

Whole UFC show

I think Fedor will go down at Randy's hands. I would bet on it.

except fedor lol...

I dont mean to be nut hugging but the guy is incredible on the ground. If seen like 80% of his fights and he can do things that are just insane. He out grappled Nogiera who is a jujitsu master by the way. if someone is on top of him from the north south or side control he simply sits up and reverses them like the randleman fight... which he was suplexed on his head from about id say 6-7 feet up.




Fedor will lose one of his first 3 fights tho! but it wont come from someone beating him but rather him getting a cut that is too bad for the doctors to let continue or him breaking a hand and the ref noticing it.

I doubt it. Refs will protect him now.

well maybe with the hand but theres nothing that can be done about a cut and fedor bleeds easier than almost anyone in mma

I dont think Fedor's first lost will come via the ground but from standing up. I dont care what anyone says, his boxing is very unorthadox and he throws a lot of looping wide hooks from his hips. Granted, you are supposed to throw from your hip, but he leaves himself way to open to punches down the pipe.

I expect Fedor's loss to come from either a head kick or a mean punch that will set him on his ass. His Sambo is classy, even to go as far as to outclass the best BJJ heavyweight in the world.

But to say that Fedor would murder Chuck is fucking dumb. Fedor fights a lot like Randy, wherein he uses his standup to bring opponents to the ground. Guys like Mirko and Chuck give Fedor his best matches because they refuse to go down on the ground and give him and advantage.

Now do I think Randy will beat Fedor? If Randy neutralizes Fedor like he did Gonzaga, its a great possibilty. You dont see much work out of Fedor in the clinch because he always works for a takedown. If Randy held him up against the fence with underhooks and worked his dirty boxing effectively, then he could very well wear Fedor down and eventually mount him and pound him out. I am sorry, regardless what anyone says, Fedor's conditioning is waning, and probably more so since he doesnt want to fight anyone his caliber and keeps hand picking his opponents. 5, 5 minute rounds are tough when you have someone like Randy on you that knows how to control the clock and uses his superior wrestling to wear opponents down.

Everyone at Xtreme Couture constantly talks about how hard it is to keep up with Randy, and how easily he can wear you down once he gets you to his level.

Also, people who are blaming the broken nose for being the only reason why Randy won is starting to fucking get to me real bad. I keep reading it on a lot of MMA sites.

When you suffer an injury midfight, you can either quit or go on. Becoming injured in a fight, accidental or no, should not be something that someone can fall back on. Its just as easy to say that Gonzaga could have not gotten the broken nose by stoping the takedown that Randy used to break his nose in the first place. Randy finished his fight with a broken arm, and it still seems to not reach people, because they are so caught up on this broken nose thing

Fact is, if Gonzaga would of stopped the takedown, the nose would of never broke. IE Gonzaga lost the fight all by himself. This rant has nothing to do with anything anyone has said on the site, but I had to get it off my chest. I fucking hate the sherdog forums.

The 16 contestants for the next Ultimate Fighter:

Matt Arroyo
Daniel Barrera
Blake Bowman
Mac Danzig
Paul Georgieff
Richie Hightower
John Kolsci
Troy Mandaloniz
Billy Miles
Roman Mitichyan
Dorian Price
Jared Rollins
Ben Saunders
Joe Scarola
George Sotiropoulis
Tommy Speer.

Sherdog are cunts. FACT. Gonzaga's broken nose may very well be the biggest reason (certainly not only reason) Randy won but the fact is Randy caused that injury by pushing his style of fighting. Endurance wise, Randy would have won if Gonzaga didn't KO him by the 3rd.

I totally thought that said Bob Sanders

Matt Linland might be one of the top 10-15 MMA fighters in the world. I dont think he was hand picked, but he gave up some height and weight.

Fedor's boxing is fine. Its unorthodox but thats how pretty much all the greats are before everyone starts to copy their style most often then not.

I really dont think chuck would be able to touch fedore because fedor has too good of movement to be caught with chucks looping right and left hooks. Which are where most of chucks knock outs come from.

Fedor can be taken down, its happened b4. But the biggest problem is that guys know how much he bleeds. Guys in PRIDE always had to go for the mount to get off real good punches from the ground, but fedor was so good on the ground, that he could reverse them when they went to shift position. However guys in the UFC can just stay in the half gaurd or side position and drop hard elbows onto fedor and elbows are the easiest way to cut sombody. If someone gets him down and becomes real intense in dropping elbows, then fedor will be in real trouble.

fedor is russian dude. that stigma about how they train isnt from the movies, its real. They are always in great shape. They might not always be the best fighters but theyre always in great shape.

Renato Sobral has been released from his UFC contract.

Article Here

Glad they canned this douchebag.

Sounds like he also may be facing a ban from the Nevada State Athletic Commission. That will keep him out of KOTC which also operates in Nevada. His career may be finished, and it probably should be.

Good job UFC. They're lucky that incident got no media attention. But you know if something were to happen in the future. Some kind of in ring incident, people would look back and dig this one up and point to it and use it as an example. So Sobral had to go. You cant run the risk of not being able to tell people that you laid the hammer on this guy if something major happens years later.

Yeah Babalu had to go. No excuse is justifiable enough for what he did.

BJ Penn held a choke on Pulver longer than needed. He didnt' get fired.

Yeh, but he did break it after the ref intervened. AND, he didn't hold it long enough to force Pulver to pass out, and then prance around the ring celebrating what a dick he is. Which is exactly what Sobral did.

I agree. They always say fight until the ref says stop so if he misses the tap out and Penn lets go, he looks like a stupid prick especially if he gets beat after it.

I have a spare ticket for the UFC show this week. Possibly 2 tickets if someone gets off their Californian ass and gets me a press pass for the show. Already posted this elsewhere so pm quick if you want it.

UFC signed Fedor it will be announced on sat at the show.

Where you reading this? I see it nowhere. Not even on MMAweekly. If its true and they dont give him Couture first, I could totally see them giving Fedor, Arlovski

i got it from an insider that called CroCop being signed a week before it hit the news so i trust that its pritty reliable and the fact that Fedor just signed a deal with the affliction brand Extreme Couture which Im sure you can find in mma weekly

and why the fuck did you change your name and avatar?

I dont like my name. Never have.

Yah i read that he'll be at UFC 75 with Randy Couture, but his agents say he's not signed, but we've seen that song and dance before with Liddel/vs Silva where Silva wasnt signed but they announced the match. I'm curious if Dana is gunna blow his load and announce the match before the ink hits the paper again.

Randy Couture vs Fedor is like a Superbowl for me. Seriously. I will cancel everything i have going for that day if it happens.

I was with a guy at the weigh ins today who had a press pass and is extremely reliable who asked Dana White if Fedor was signed and he said no.

Then about 2 hours later, we could have sworn we saw Fedor about 20 miles from the building in central London. I'm not saying it was him but he definately looked like him and he had people with him and I'm definately not saying Dana is lying because he is normally very truthfull on these things.

I'm really pumped for the show this Saturday. Hamill/Bisbing hsould be off the charts.

Bisping is gonna kill this fucker.

I love "Dangerous" Dan Henderson but I love RAMPAGE more..

Can't wait..

Is the guy fighting Bisping the deaf guy from the Ultimate Fighter a few seasons ago??

Also, WOOOOOOOO @ Cro Cop and Houston Alexander being on the card..

ummm no? there have been a lot of instances where dana has been untruthful, but Id think on this its def. for a purpose. Dana would be pretty dumb to give that news out to somebody so he could go and tell people such as yourself. then again maybe he hasnt signed and hes just going to announce him in order to pressure him into doing it. Fedor is supsed to be there today so you probably did see him and thats cool as hell.

If they announce Fedor, his first fight may very well be against Arlovski. I know Andrei and he tinks that theyre trying to get rid of him and they think fedor would kill him and if that were to happen then UFC could use that as a reason not to resign him.

Would anyone give Arlovski a shot at beating him? Glass jaw and all..I would guess no.

Predictions for tonight:

Anthony Torres Vs. Jess Liaudin
Naoyuki Kotani Vs. Dennis Siver
Tomasz Drwal Vs. Thiago Silva
Gleison Tibau Vs. Terry Etim
Houston Alexander Vs. Alessio Sakara <--- Potential Fight of the Night
Marcus Davis Vs. Paul Taylor
Mirko Cro Cop Vs. Cheick Kongo
Matt Hamill Vs. Michael Bisping <--- Potential Fight of the Night
Quinton Jackson Vs. Dan Henderson

Fedor-Arlovski would be a good fight for the UFC. UNLESS, by some freak accident Arlovski wins and they never get to set up Fedor-Couture (at least not with the prestige it would have). I could see them going straight for the big match up rather than risking a freak loss by Fedor.

Arlovski has the potential to beat any heavyweight in the world, but he's been mad timid since Tim "The Big Slow" Silvia KO'ed him..

Also, my picks are the exact same as yours, Mercury Bullet..

Anthony Torres Vs. Jess Liaudin
Naoyuki Kotani Vs. Dennis Siver
Tomasz Drwal Vs. Thiago Silva
Gleison Tibau Vs. Terry Etim
Houston Alexander Vs. Alessio Sakara
Marcus Davis Vs. Paul Taylor
Mirko Cro Cop Vs. Cheick Kongo
Matt Hamill Vs. Michael Bisping
Quinton Jackson Vs. Dan Henderson

Going with Dan but I could easily see Quinton getting the W at the same time.

Rampage/Hendo is a toss-up, can't wait for it

I just watched this on setanta in the uk

i wont post results.

I just came back from the show. Conned my way from a £50 nosebleed seat to a Row AA ringside floor seat along side the press. Met Brandon Vera and Ross Pointon. Oh yeah, Cro Cop is the biggest waste of space in the company. I'll need to see the tape to see if Hamill did anything other than a few takedowns with zero follow up against Bisping. And that main event sure dragged in the building.

Davis vs. Taylor is easy match of the night.

Pointon came across as quite big headed on the ultimate fighter, what is he like in real life.

I agree that Cro Cop was terrible but from watching on TV i thought that bisping was lucky to win.

Great comeback from Davis, wanted taylor to win being a local lad.

Hey guys, howe about not spoiling this for the American fans eh??

Also, they are showing Forrest Vs Tito on Spike right now.. Awesome fight..

sorry dude, my bad

Fuck Rob, I really can't believe you just did that..

Fuck..

I am sitting here watching a two year old fight waiting on the show..

Kinda sucks knowing the outcome before it's even been aired..

WOW I avoided spoilers the whole fuckin day.

Me thinking espn.com wouldn't spoil the PPV I deiced to click on the MMA headline, and low behold they went a head and spoiled it. FUCK THEM

Also I didn't read Rob's post.

I'm really pissed right now though. I saw this with 5 mintues before the show too.

FUCK

Damn..

honestly thought you guys would have got it live
sorry

No..

It is coming on RIGHT NOW..

:(

It's all good, just frustrating..

:(

:wavesad:

So far Houston Alexander KO'd Alessio Sakara in 1:01 of the first round..

Marcus Davis won in the first via armbar..

Lol Yves Lanvigne or whatever his name is loves seeing people get beat up.

Houston Alexander fight shouldn't have went that long on the ground. The English guy should have won the fight went Marcus Davis went limp on the ground

Terribe Ref

If you logged on to the internet for a show that already happened then it's your own fault. I didn't even post all the fight results when I could, and should have. All this spoiler shit is just that. Stay offline for half a day if it bothers you.

Pointon was in the halls with all the fans. Seemed ok. Vera seems like a very cool dude though. Dunno why this surprised me. I saw Huerta too but I didn't even click that was him.

I thought Hammill won live but I've watched it on TV since and think the 2nd and 3rd rounds are close enough that it's not a robbery or anything. I can see why they gave Bisping the decision because Hammill did 2 takedowns in each round and then was out boxed convincingly.

I thought Davis was dead but it was a hell of a comeback. Great little fight.

What the fuck ever..

You are saying that every American fan, which last time I checked was the primary market for UFC, can't discuss an event just because two people have already seen it??

It's a common courtesy, not only with sporting events but movies, etc..

No. Discuss whatever you like. Just don't cry when others discuss stuff you don't wanna see. Well unless you are gonna not post about The Ultimate Fighter for 5 days until it airs in England or the PPVs that air 1-2 days later. You won't. So let's not be a baby about it. As for movies, if I didn't want say The Bourne Ultimatium spoiled, I would avoid reading any thread that could possibly have the ending in it. Don't make this America vs. Britain either.

See the difference in me posting about the Ultimate Fighter is, if you, someone I respect, and enjoy posting with asked, I would mark every spoiler.. Same thing I do when discussing movies still out out the theater or Raw, when I use to watch wrestling..

It's fine if you and Danny want to discuss it but is it that hard to type "SPOILER" before the post??

So I guess Gonzaga took CroCop's warrior spirit?

Cro Cop has had some low points before.. Saddens me he's having one right when he comes to the UFC..

LOL @ the knee to the balls

Also I wouldn't really care if it the main event was spoiled for me buy a British Tpww poster, because it's only fair since wrestling and all other shit is always spoiled for them.

But the man(espn.com) screwed me over.

Truthfully, I expect a higher level of respect amongst fans than what the fans get from somewhere like ESPN..

Not really but I don't see the point in it to be honest. I think it ceases to be a spoiler when other sites report on it including the UFC site. To be fair though, UFC isn't spoiling the U.S based site.

I didn't think mine was too bad but I'll apologise anyway. I still think people should just stay clear for a few hours though.

Well, I am sitting at home, by myself watching this due to the guys I usually watch PPVs with being at work and my girl being outta town.. I just wanted to discuss it as it was happening.. As I said earlier, it's not a huge deal just kinda frustrating..

What the hell at Hammil coming out to "Born in the USA"?? LOL is he trying to play up the heel role because Bisping is a local boy??

LOL

Dana White picks ALL the music. Fighters sometime have suggestions but generally he picks. Hence "London Calling" twice for Bisping and it didn't get over in the slightest in fucking London.

The annoucers were trying to play up that the fans were singing along..

:nono:

It makes no sense that the fighters don't pick their own music..

Ok

No way Bisping should've won that fight..

Why the fuck do they keep saying commercial free??

Well with UFC scoring I can see how he won. It's not like Pride where the judge the whole round. He kinda came on strong at the end of the 1st and UFC Judges love those burst fighters have.

I would have went 29-28 Hamil myself, but I can see how Bisping won.

Commercial free during the main event

MMA shouldn't be judged on the 10 point must system..

RAMPAGE

Dan Henderson is the man though..

I also think Hamill/Bisbing hsould be off the charts. I love UFC right now. Marcus Davis is good

Gimme my chain, nigga..

Time for some big black guy vs Chuck Liddel

what??

No my bad thats not Chuck Liddel it was showing something else. My bad.

This is an awesome fight..

Rampage looked outstanding.. Never seen Henderson held on his back like that.. Awesome strikes from both sides..

Great fight..

lol

I f'n love that guy..

Hi im a gullible idiot :wave: