I find it strange that they start off with "30 years ago... 4 scientists..." or whatever... so are they acknowledging in the filmverse that the original Ghostbusters exist?

Looks that way. There's also the Ghostbusters logo in the train station that's b spray painted over. So, for whatever reason that I'm sure will be shared in the film, the Ghostbusters are apparently viewed in a negative light in New York (again).

At least Slimmer looked...okay....the rest of it seems terrible.

That is just marketing. This is a different universe.

Obviously it's coz I was a young grasshopper when the originals came out, but the ghosts in the original movies looked amazing and scared the shit out of me as a kid. These ghosts look shit and cartoony. Sorta thing you'd see in 'Son of the Mask' or some shitty film like that.

You know I find it hilarious that half the people in here crying about this are the same people who told me off and said I shouldn't judge the movie based on "just a trailer" when I was complaining about Suicide Squad. :rofl:

Suicide Squad trailer looked shit as well.

Pretty sure you were one of the few people that agreed with me over there actually, Rammsteinmad.

I find it ironic how it is an all woman cast because of equal rights and shit, yet the black girl is a stereotypical black person.

We do tend to 'know the streets' and believe in jesus and shit. She's very accurate. And the actress shredded a feminist on twitter trying to make this a problem.

Swear to god, any time there is a woman cast in a lead role, it's always accused of being a feminist agenda.

This is what we have come to.

Actually it's nothing like that. Women been rocking leads since before Aliens.

You have to consider who started poisoning the well and it wasn't guys like me calling out stunts like Marvels All New All Different Race/Gender swapathon.

The articles blasting any criticism against this film as sexist is inflammatory. A preemptive strike against perceived bigotry. Same with comics and TV and movies going full tokenism. How can honest criticism survive when that's the corner we're painted in?

The criticism of the movie in this thread, by guys we KNOW aren't sexist, would be called sexist. What would you have us do, ya know? Never say something critical of female/minority led media?

Help me out here

I'll get you a list of female led movies after work. Lots of cool shit too then and now. It's not as dire as advertised. It happened. It happens.

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The bigger issues in sexism in movies is wage disparity and lack of female directors. This is a distraction.

Greta Garbo movies, All About Eve, Mildred Pierce, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane... lots more. Not that I deny that Hollywood was and is a sexist institution, but let's not give a Ridley Scott film that much credit.

I shouldn't have asked, I think the responses will go all over the place. As for Mitch's suggestion, I got the sense we were talking about Hollywood blockbuster types, not dramas. I just though Aliens was a curious landmark to pick, I can think of anything obvious before Aliens in the same vein. Not really surprising as most films would be war/fantasy based. Unless you're talking about Russ Meyer stuff, which is B movie stuff

There really aren't many female lead blockbuster movies. Most of that has to do with the fact that the few there are (with a few obvious exceptions like Alien and Terminator) are usually received poorly. It all has to do with our society and the fact that most men don't seem to be able to "identify" with a female lead character. I honestly don't understand why that is, but it's definitely true, especially among younger men.

Another big issue is that female characters are rarely ever written well in those kinds of movies. We usually end up with the overly masculine heroine who's essentially just a dude with a vagina because Hollywood doesn't seem to understand how to make a character a badass without making them a caricature of what society deems "manly." Not that more masculine acting women don't exist, but the fact that that is pretty much all we get (again with some exceptions) doesn't help lift the stigma.

My main concern is with if any of them will be a Mary Sue

True

So not even a effort to make it good?

Hopefully they have Hemsworth shirtless the whole movie:)

Women aren't funny. This movie will be terrible.

Right about the 2nd part.

It however will be funnier than awful troll attempts on the internet.

Troll? What's that?

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