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Tazz Dan 01-01-2011 08:05 PM

STD, CSL has got you here buddy. :-\

parkmania 01-01-2011 08:05 PM

For those that have said WWE should have given him the belt in his feud with Bret, there's no way Vince would have done that and here's why:

Lawler didn't have an exclusive contract with WWF during the majority that time - he was still wrestling in USWA at the time. The exact same footage that was being shown on WWE portraying Lawler as a heel was being shown on USWA where Lawler was going over as a face.

Xero 01-01-2011 08:07 PM

I don't think he has an exclusive contract now. I assume he's still on the Announcer's contract, maybe he's on a short-term per-match thing too, but I don't think he's exclusive.

He still works Memphis now I thought, though that's moot since it's regional/indie now.

Cool King 01-01-2011 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 3376097)
Putting in relevant and funny videos that aren't on autoplay? It was the perfect video to how I feel on King becoming champ over Miz. You must have no sense of humor. Maybe you should make it a New Years Resolution to not be such an uptight ass.

I'm not taking sides, but this video wasn't good enough?

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parkmania 01-01-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3376120)
I don't think he has an exclusive contract now. I assume he's still on the Announcer's contract, maybe he's on a short-term per-match thing too, but I don't think he's exclusive.

He still works Memphis now I thought, though that's moot since it's regional/indie now.

Yes. Back then WWF and WCW still hadn't completely taken over the wrestling world. USWA, while fading fast, was still a mega-regional company.

Recently, Lawler had been doing Memphis wrestling (was a part owner in it), but Lawler's partner failed to come through on some financing and Memphis Wrestling closed up after a Sept 11, 2010 event.

CSL 01-01-2011 08:27 PM

parkmania is from the future :eek:

parkmania 01-01-2011 08:49 PM

Whoops. Usually I can't get used to writing the new year, now it seems I can't get out of 2010 fast enough.

CSL 01-01-2011 09:05 PM

Kind of disappointed :( There was money to be made there. You could have fucking owned tipsters this year as well.

parkmania 01-01-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3376182)
Kind of disappointed :( There was money to be made there. You could have fucking owned tipsters this year as well.

If that were the case, tipsters would have been the LEAST of my concerns.

DLVH84 01-01-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 3376033)
King's still a badass in the ring. He comes from the territory days, so he's got command in there. His moveset is basic, but he knows how and when to do every move he does to make the crowd react, and that is more than you can say for at least 80 per cent of the roster.

I agree on that notion. Plus, he always brought that aura and charisma in those days as well, even when he's commentating now, whether if it's cheers or boos, but he knows how to work a crowd like he does.

Jordan 01-01-2011 11:41 PM

I love this idea, I wouldn't mind if WWE ran with King as the Champion for a period of time.

Savio 01-02-2011 12:16 AM

Why give King the title? How about they actually build a good feud for mania.

Aguakate 01-02-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3376381)
Why give King the title? How about they actually build a good feud for mania.

THANK YOU!

GOSH!

All this "Yeah! Give King the Title" talk had me wondering if I was insane or something.

Kane Knight 01-02-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3375644)
I like this idea. Reward Lawler for his loyalty. Dont give him too long of a run. It allows Lawler to get his shine, Miz will look like a chickenshit heel when he gets it back in a slimey fashion, JoMo can still continue to be built as the belt chaser, since he's not ready just yet, and Randy can be in the mix since he's crazy over, but wont take the belt since he needs to take it easy in lieu of taking some time off.

It seems like a win in all aspects.

Dude walked out over his girlfriend. Sounds like loyalty to me...Just not to the company.

Aguakate 01-02-2011 12:29 AM

I can't believe people actually like the idea of giving the Title to Lawler, when they have a new, young star as Champion in The Miz. These are the same fans who some time ago were complaining because WWE wasn't producing new stars, new wrestlers who were not just "regular" guys, but promising stars. Now that WWE is doing so, some want an old guy as Champion.

It's amazing. You can't please fans.

DLVH84 01-02-2011 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3376391)
I can't believe people actually like the idea of giving the Title to Lawler, when they have a new, young star as Champion in The Miz. These are the same fans who some time ago were complaining because WWE wasn't producing new stars, new wrestlers who were not just "regular" guys, but promising stars. Now that WWE is doing so, some want an old guy as Champion.

It's amazing. You can't please fans.

No, Lawler may win the title from Miz, and he'll most likely probably lose the title back to him a day later, or a week or two later on RAW, depending on how they want to set it up, if it occurs. I see it as a "thank you" gesture to Lawler for his loyalty to Vince and the WWE.

Aguakate 01-02-2011 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3376398)
No, Lawler may win the title from Miz, and he'll most likely probably lose the title back to him a day later or a week later, depending on how they want to set it up, if it occurs. I see it as a "thank you" gesture to Lawler for his loyalty to Vince and the WWE.

He's in the HOF. That's WWE's way of "thanking him".

I'm telling ya'll, and when it happens I'm going to tell u "I TOLD U SO"...if Lawler wins the WWE Title, he's off the boradcast team forever. It's the WWE's way of getting him out of there without making it look bad, and angrying him.

DLVH84 01-02-2011 12:46 AM

Yeah, and maybe we need another assclown alongside Mitchell Cole for bad commentary.

Aguakate 01-02-2011 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3376401)
Yeah, and maybe we need another assclown alongside Mitchell Cole for bad commentary.

Josh Matthews will be Cole's partner.

Kane Knight 01-02-2011 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3376391)
I can't believe people actually like the idea of giving the Title to Lawler, when they have a new, young star as Champion in The Miz. These are the same fans who some time ago were complaining because WWE wasn't producing new stars, new wrestlers who were not just "regular" guys, but promising stars. Now that WWE is doing so, some want an old guy as Champion.

It's amazing. You can't please fans.

False Dichotomy FTW!

Aguakate 01-02-2011 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3376412)
False Dichotomy FTW!

I don't know what "Dichotomy" is, or is supposed to be, but...I'm not wrong.

Kane Knight 01-02-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3376413)
I don't know what "Dichotomy" is, or is supposed to be, but...I'm not wrong.

You're totally wrong.

It's not like people are clammoring for a 12 month reign with Lawler on top. They're simply okay with the concept of a "thank you" win.

Maybe you want to portray these two extremes as the only available options, but they are not.

Aguakate 01-02-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3376417)
You're totally wrong.

It's not like people are clammoring for a 12 month reign with Lawler on top. They're simply okay with the concept of a "thank you" win.

Maybe you want to portray these two extremes as the only available options, but they are not.

It's the same rationale for why WCW gave Arquette the Title. Not for a "12 month reign", only to promote the movie they had.

You'll say "Yeah but Lawler is a legend", blah, blah...but no. It's the same reasoning behind both instances.

Supreme Olajuwon 01-02-2011 01:06 AM

Whoring your title to promote a movie and an upset win by a legendary wrestler are not the same thing. If that's your best argument, you need to shut the fuck up.

Kane Knight 01-02-2011 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3376420)
It's the same rationale for why WCW gave Arquette the Title. Not for a "12 month reign", only to promote the movie they had.

You'll say "Yeah but Lawler is a legend", blah, blah...but no. It's the same reasoning behind both instances.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3376423)
Whoring your title to promote a movie and an upset win by a legendary wrestler are not the same thing. If that's your best argument, you need to shut the fuck up.

What Supreme said.

Fignuts 01-02-2011 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3376420)
It's the same rationale for why WCW gave Arquette the Title. Not for a "12 month reign", only to promote the movie they had.

You'll say "Yeah but Lawler is a legend", blah, blah...but no. It's the same reasoning behind both instances.

Are you an idiot?

Aguakate 01-02-2011 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3376423)
Whoring your title to promote a movie and an upset win by a legendary wrestler are not the same thing. If that's your best argument, you need to shut the fuck up.

LOL at your "Shut the fuck up"

You're "whoring the title" either way, because neither instance has any real purpose in terms of "long term" WWE.

I remember when the rumor came up that Bret Hart would win the WWE Title...if was just a rumor, but people here were up in arms like "Why?! No way!"

But now, it's ok.

BAH.

CSL 01-02-2011 01:14 AM

Bret can barely move, let alone bump. With enough protection, King can still be a part of a good match.

Aguakate 01-02-2011 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3376434)
Are you an idiot?

Nah, just objective.

Supreme Olajuwon 01-02-2011 01:18 AM

You keep trying to analogize this to other things in the past and it's not gonna work. Lawler is the ONLY guy that could pull this off. The only one. He's the only guy with the right position, the right health, the right resume, and the right status with the company to make this work.

If this was anyone else, I'd be against it. But this is special.

Aguakate 01-02-2011 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3376443)
You keep trying to analogize this to other things in the past and it's not gonna work. Lawler is the ONLY guy that could pull this off. The only one. He's the only guy with the right position, the right health, the right resume, and the right status with the company to make this work.

If this was anyone else, I'd be against it. But this is special.

Heck, don't have him win the Title NOW. No no no...

...have him win the Rumble. Have him go to WM27 and Main Event, baby! Have him win it right there in Atlanta, and then the next night he can had it over!

Supreme Olajuwon 01-02-2011 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3376438)
Nah, just objective.


Kane Knight 01-02-2011 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3376437)
Bret can barely move, let alone bump. With enough protection, King can still be a part of a good match.

Truly. I dislike the idea of Hart being a champion because he can't really perform. His matches demonstrated that. If he could be somewhat believable in the ring, I'd love to see him get a brief "Thank you" run with one of the heavyweight titles.

Course, this isn't so much approval as it is understanding. I'm not sure King should get a run so much as I understand the reasoning behind it. Miz also gets "change the channel" heat from me, so I honestly couldn't care less about him getting pushed. It doesn't mean I'm against new talent. Just Douchey McBoring.

...Well, and CM Punk, but we won't go there.

dronepool 01-02-2011 01:32 AM

WWE Champ?

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Wouldn't that mean... you know?

Aguakate 01-02-2011 01:33 AM

Did you people see the Miz vs King match this past Monday?

...wasn't good.

Jordan 01-02-2011 01:37 AM

King takes the title from Miz at the Rumble. Miz's proudest accomplishment, regarded as "The it thing" in wrestling, humiliated an pinned by a 60+ year old man. King makes a successful title defense against Alex Reilly in a match where Miz is banned from ringside. Elimination Chamber is up an The King is going in as a defending champ against four Raw Superstars and ... The Miz. The match is built to the confrontation between King and Miz ... and this time King loses his title, but not to the Miz. Setting up a big time heated Wrestlemania match with King's career on the line.

Aguakate 01-02-2011 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 3376475)
King takes the title from Miz at the Rumble. Miz's proudest accomplishment, regarded as "The it thing" in wrestling, humiliated an pinned by a 60+ year old man. King makes a successful title defense against Alex Reilly in a match where Miz is banned from ringside. Elimination Chamber is up an The King is going in as a defending champ against four Raw Superstars and ... The Miz. The match is built to the confrontation between King and Miz ... and this time King loses his title, but not to the Miz. Setting up a big time heated Wrestlemania match with King's career on the line.

Oh, please no.

I mean...YES!

Tazz Dan 01-02-2011 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3376469)
Did you people see the Miz vs King match this past Monday?

...wasn't good.

Yet it was still better than 98% of Batista's matches from the last 18 months before he left.

CSL 01-02-2011 01:41 AM

You shut your dirty mouth when talking about Batista like that

Aguakate 01-02-2011 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 3376481)
Yet it was still better than 98% of Batista's matches from the last 18 months before he left.

Well, yeah, but Batista sucks.


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