GODDAMMIT I LOVE THIS GUY!

This is a quote from me in the NXT thread from back in June...

I seriously feel like this. If I wanna show non-wrestling fans why I enjoy wrestling I'd explain to them it's because I know something like this is gonna come around every once in a while and I'm gonna root heavily for it to succeed. I may shit on the writers and be terrified that they're gonna fuck this up royally but I still have faith that the company is gonna get the right people in there at some point to build stories like professional writers and they're gonna roll with something like this to the point where people will wanna pay $40 for a PPV to see what's gonna happen to this character.

Pretty great promo.

I wonder if Damien Sandow would consider joining him. He already has a beard.

He brainwashes Damien to his side, who believes that the Wyatt way is the way to truly help the unwashed masses.

He turns on Cody. Cody turns face and feuds with the Wyatt clan.

Would be good for all involved.

I want them to brain-wash Ryback.

I'm waiting until someone breaks it to Gertner that Luke Harper is

When he comes back, I'd love to see Kofi get beheaded by a Big Boot.

I know he is aware. It was a joke on how Gertner always shits on Indy guys.

I think the equation of Big Guy > Independent Background comes into play here

Everyone is technically an indy guy now. I think Gertner's hatred is more toward guys with the "indy stench". As in generic smaller guys who are known more for their wrestling ability than their ability to be a genuine major "sports entertainment" star.

Throw me the whip.

How about being a deliberate troll to garner "heat" instead? I bet he cheers for Daniel Bryan each time he comes out :lol:

I firmly believe that Gertner trolls way less than people wanna pretend that he does.

I see way more "NUH UH! I'M GONNA CLAIM THAT YOU'RE TROLLING JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE SPEAKING BAD ABOUT MY 5'9" 200lb INDY DARLING AND I REFUSE TO BELIEVE HE'S ANYTHING BUT PERFECT AND A FUTURE 30 TIME WWE CHAMPION!" than I have Gertner actually trolling.

The fact that Gertner has actually openly praised Daniel Bryan in his current role supports that.

Good point. I'd argue that Harper fits the WWE mold a bit more than most of the guys with the "Independent Background" up to this point. I'd even argue that he is probably the most likely to be a breakout star out this batch, excepting Big E. Langston.

<3 Harper

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not a big fan of any other forum I assume

This was my favorite promo:

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Whoever trimmed Jiro's entrance from this vid cut off the initiall "Five thousand years from now..." I liked how he tied "Mother" into the whole promo instead of just doing the Fallen thing. Especially the delivery of that last line.

Why?

like 85 percent of Gertner's posts are "trolling" somebody about who they like to fuck or what color they are or if they are owenbrown

(the other 15 percent about sports)

Pretty much. I don't have a problem with "insert wrestler". I do when people place unrealistic expectations on them. Every has a certain role.

Except Bo Dallas

Hey hey 75% tops.

I think a lot of that is just personal desire. I remember wanting Taz to be a World Champ in the WWE and perhaps he would have gone that way eventually if not for his medical issues. Hell, Taz would have been a perfect fit for the WWE today with all the smaller guys, but I digress. I wanted to see ECW Monster Taz choke everyone out and curse in his promos...obviously that wasn't going to happen but it's what I wanted. Very unrealistic.

I also really wanted Mankind to not be the guy putting other main-event guys over, I wanted him to win the title a few more times before he "retired", but he put over Rock and Triple H instead. Probably better or the company in retrospect, but I would have enjoyed a more successful Mankind character. At the very least he should not have tapped to the Groin Claw.

How dare you soil this thread with that evil name!

I have no idea what these guys are going to do once called up, Heels hold 90% of the title in the WWE

Good heels don't need a title to get heat, just saying. It's not like most titles in the WWE mean anything anyways. Most of the time they're just props.

Anyone want to bet against me that Wyatt's first match will be against Ryder?

So who do they go after?

I'd like to see Wyatt come in and go after the emotionally-crippled people on the roster. Prey on Hell No's insecurities. Needle Kaitlyn about her breakdown and try to completely ruin her (maybe have a mid card babyface step up to defend her). Play off Zack Ryder's cynical last few Z!TLIS episodes and target his confidence.

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I would love for them to start off by getting involved in the Daniel Bryan story and try to recruit him by preying on his paranoia. Kane trying to stop him from "joining the dark side" and feuding with Bray Wyatt with Bryan in the middle just being more and more mentally fucked with could be amazing.

I'd be quite cool if they started a cult like that.

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Remember that the structure of the WWE is not like a legit sport. If they did there'd be tournaments and brackets etc. rather than just random insulting and assaults. So a heel can totally get away with coming out, pissing off the audience and issuing an open challenge just to prove they're better than everybody (you get the general idea).

Masters had the Masterlock Challenge which I hated and thought was boring, but a better heel could have made that amazing. Some heels are JUST bullies who like hurting people and making their opponents feel inferior. Monster heels just want to destroy everything around them. Raven with or without the title wanted to get in people's heads, generally just ruin their lives.

Don't get me wrong, a heel gimmick where the guy is willing to do anything to get to the top works well too, but yeah there aren't enough World title matches (even including Money in the Bank briefcases and ) in the WWE to establish the "everybody is after the title" angle.

ECW had three titles for the majority of their existent: Tag, TV and World right? During the Taz reign he defended the title constantly, sometimes twice in one night. Shane Douglas, Raven and Justin Credible were always defending the title and it was a fairly common thing to see the title defended (rarely changing hands though). In a small company with a small roster it made sense for nearly everybody to go after the title, it always played heavily into the feuds and rivalries. Compare that to the numerous worthless titles in the WWE and the giant roster.

Yeah but its rumored that Bryan is going against Cena at Summerslam. Who are midcard faces that can go against the Wyatt family right now without dropping all of their plans?

The stable doesn't have to revolve around winning titles. That doesn't have to be their end game from day one. They can just go in and fuck stuff up like The Shield did for months before getting the gold.

Who do they go after guys?.....Or do they just promo and go after no one for now? That's all I can see them doing.

Right now they haven't even debuted yet. Do we have a timetable for their debut or is this going to be a long promo season?

Probably the same group of jobbers the Shield regularly faces in tune up matches. The Usos, Justin Gabriel, Zack Ryder, etc.

Yeah i'm guessing its going to have to be those jobbers, everyone else is busy right now, maybe R-truth and Kofi can go against them once Kofi comes back teaming with.....Sheamus? when he's done with Sandow, but then that leaves Rhode Scholars with nothing to do. It seems like with have a drought of faces right now.

I don't really care who they go after at first. I just want them to have a reason within their gimmick for going after whoever they go after other than "We're heels so we're gonna attack you faces".