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Bobo 01-05-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4353779)
JBL's skit was way before the PG push, and Zeb Colter's whole gimmick is that he is a xenophobe/racist.



Jericho, Edge, and RVD were never remotely close to the level of star Triple H is/was. Also, it's a fucking work.

Tbh it all started from here I.e. Veering off into the triple h debate.

Bobo 01-05-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4354170)
And in your world all gays like 12yo boys?

Some might do in which case they would be Paedophiles and ought to be in jail.

Bobo 01-05-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4354171)
I feel like my "State Your Case" series of threads is a smash hit so far.

To be honest I did state my case as per the thread title but you marked out my comments on triple h for debate hence why we went off track.

whiteyford 01-05-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobo (Post 4354173)
Some might do in which case they would be Paedophiles and ought to be in jail.

Right but you still haven't explained why you thought him abusing a child was what, funny? Appropriate? Maybe if you could break it down so we could all understand why you felt the need for this then the rest of your posts would make some semblance of sense?

Bobo 01-05-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4354175)
Right but you still haven't explained why you thought him abusing a child was what, funny? Appropriate? Maybe if you could break it down so we could all understand why you felt the need for this then the rest of your posts would make some semblance of sense?

This ain't no moral circle it's a wrestling forum.

James Steele 01-05-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobo (Post 4354174)
To be honest I did state my case as per the thread title but you marked out my comments on triple h for debate hence why we went off track.

It is my fucking thread. We didn't veer off topic. You think Triple H is why WWE is bad, and I chose to smite thee for your fucking stupidity.

Bobo 01-05-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4354179)
It is my fucking thread. We didn't veer off topic. You think Triple H is why WWE is bad, and I chose to smite thee for your fucking stupidity.

Then it's impossible to debate with you rationally as your bias is towards one wrestler whom you worship as the next best thing since sliced bread.

James Steele 01-05-2014 05:39 PM

Your opinion is fucking stupid. I have never claimed Triple H is the greatest of all time, but to ignore his contributions and status in wrestling is just willful ignorance because you haven't gotten past the year 2003.

Bobo 01-05-2014 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4354194)
Your opinion is fucking stupid. I have never claimed Triple H is the greatest of all time, but to ignore his contributions and status in wrestling is just willful ignorance because you haven't gotten past the year 2003.

And the fact you think boning the bosses daughter and reaping the rewards of being a part of the family somehow equates to achievement is even more so. Gosh I knew rednecks were retarded but not this much.

ron the dial 01-05-2014 05:44 PM

you're ignoring the fact that while triple h has benefited from his marriage to some degree, it took a lot of his own hard work and natural talent to get where he is. you're only looking at one part of the equation, which is why you whining about there being no rational debate here is laughable.

#1-norm-fan 01-05-2014 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobo (Post 4354099)
Then again you can't say most in the HOF were revolutionaries or there on merit otherwise why Koko B Ware, Drew Carey or Jerry Lawler even?

What was THIS all about?

Do you doubt that Jerry Lawler is HOF-worthy???

whiteyford 01-05-2014 05:47 PM

He was being pushed long before Stephanie was in the equation, and after HBK was out 'retired', so if this is going to be all you have outside asinine paedo comments I think you should take a break.

Bobo 01-05-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4354202)
He was being pushed long before Stephanie was in the equation, and after HBK was out 'retired', so if this is going to be all you have outside asinine paedo comments I think you should take a break.

Oh right and not being a part of the Kliq had absolutely nothing at all to do with his push to the top?

The fact is triple h has been on more handouts than homeless people at a foodbank and must pray long and hard each morning that his marriage lasts or else he'll fizzle out into nothingness.

Bobo 01-05-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4354201)
What was THIS all about?

Do you doubt that Jerry Lawler is HOF-worthy???

Erm yes.

His heart attack was probably his most meaningful contribution to pro wrestling.

#1-norm-fan 01-05-2014 05:55 PM

:|

whiteyford 01-05-2014 05:56 PM

And I'm done, you've now eclipsed mike adamle as the dumbest cunt here, kudos!

Bobo 01-05-2014 06:04 PM

All it takes to be famous in the wwe these days is become a crack addict like Randy Orton, break your neck and retire early like Edge, bone the bosses daughter like Triple H , have a heart attack live on the air like jerry Lawler or fall to your death like Owen hart.

Bobo 01-05-2014 06:06 PM

I bet Owen Hart's favourite movie was the cable guy lol.

whiteyford 01-05-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobo (Post 4354218)
I bet Owen Hart's favourite movie was the cable guy lol.

Yeah, pot kettle black indeed.

Shisen Kopf 01-05-2014 06:14 PM

I think LOL TNA pretty much sums it up

Shisen Kopf 01-05-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobo (Post 4354218)
I bet Owen Hart's favourite movie was the cable guy lol.

Actually, his fav movie was this gem

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_00z66u7QX_...c%5D-front.jpg

#1-norm-fan 01-05-2014 06:19 PM

I fucking love that movie.

(RIP Owen)

#1-norm-fan 01-05-2014 06:20 PM

Bobo, I'm curious. Serious question. How old are you and are you aware that Jerry Lawler existed before the mid-late 90's?

Bobo 01-05-2014 06:27 PM

Yes I'm aware he did and he was pretty shit then or so I hear.

Shisen Kopf 01-05-2014 06:33 PM

Jerry Lawler brought us Isaac Yankem best dentist rassler ever. I miss him. RIP Yankem.

Bobo 01-05-2014 06:35 PM

Another thing I hate is the HOF which is not based on merit but on whoever McMahon thinks is worthy or needs to boost merchandise sales. If it were based on votes by wrestling magazine writers and fans fair enough but it ain't and it sucks big cock. Same for TNA too. WWE doesn't seem to give fans what it wants which is a good v bad the faces vs the authority all out story line. We need two clear factions. Bryan has gone from being title holder beating Cena at Summerslam and Orton at NOC to being Wyatt's bitch.

Bobo 01-05-2014 06:37 PM

Jerry Lawler's wrestling career almost as hilarious as saying that Margaret Thatcher was a champion of peace and justice.

Blonde Moment 01-05-2014 06:37 PM

I thought Falling Down was a pretty awesome movie at the time.

HHH is not in the same ballpark as HBK, Cena, The Rock, The Undertaker or even Bret Hart but he earned his spot and his legacy is just as valid as anyone elses and while i think he did manage to hold on for as long as he did due to whom he was poking as an OVERALL package he was better then Edge, Jericho, Beniot, Guerrero, Foley and in all honesty Kurt Angle.

To stay on Topic:
The only thing TNA had going for it was when the X division and the Women division had center stageand the dismantling of both is why I truely have come to hate Hogan and Bishoff's contribution to the company. Now they have nothing and have managed to alienate just about everyone who gave a shit about the company.

WWe: I really don't have much of a problem with them and while I really am tired of the Cena show, he is the one carrying the Company and no one has worked harder to be where he is. That being said I hate the womens division and would just as well see them scrap it then to have to sit through watching the talented Divas take a backseat to the fluff. HHH is doing his best to try and get new talent spots, which is something i can really respect him for, and seems to be really trying to make some change in the company.

Blonde Moment 01-05-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobo (Post 4354237)
Jerry Lawler's wrestling career almost as hilarious as saying that Margaret Thatcher was a champion of peace and justice.

Tell me of his Career please. While his WWe wrestling career was ....embarassing he played his role well and him and JR made Raw watchable when at times it just plain sucked.

As for the rest you need to do some research or stfu boy

Bobo 01-05-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4354238)
I thought Falling Down was a pretty awesome movie at the time.

HHH is not in the same ballpark as HBK, Cena, The Rock, The Undertaker or even Bret Hart but he earned his spot and his legacy is just as valid as anyone elses and while i think he did manage to hold on for as long as he did due to whom he was poking as an OVERALL package he was better then Edge, Jericho, Beniot, Guerrero, Foley and in all honesty Kurt Angle.

To stay on Topic:
The only thing TNA had going for it was when the X division and the Women division had center stageand the dismantling of both is why I truely have come to hate Hogan and Bishoff's contribution to the company. Now they have nothing and have managed to alienate just about everyone who gave a shit about the company.

WWe: I really don't have much of a problem with them and while I really am tired of the Cena show, he is the one carrying the Company and no one has worked harder to be where he is. That being said I hate the womens division and would just as well see them scrap it then to have to sit through watching the talented Divas take a backseat to the fluff. HHH is doing his best to try and get new talent spots, which is something i can really respect him for, and seems to be really trying to make some change in the company.

TNA only became relevant when Hogan came along. His popularity alone drew fans to the programme and even the live events. My main reason for going to the TNA show in the UK was to see hogan, sting and a couple of the knockouts. Otherwise with the exception or AJ Styles and Aries, TNA is shit.

I'd rate HHH above Benoit but not the others. But arguably we were denied perhaps a few more iconic moments for Edge and Eddie due to tragic circumstances.

Foley endeared himself more to the fans as the unwashed, unkempt, loveable loser who came good not to mention his hardcore style which was unseen prior to his arrival.

Jericho had plenty of funny moments in both the WCW and wwe and was a big star in both.

Eddie did it all at every weight level and of all those mentioned above I rate him the highest.

#1-norm-fan 01-05-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobo (Post 4354237)
Jerry Lawler's wrestling career almost as hilarious as saying that Margaret Thatcher was a champion of peace and justice.

(or so you hear)

Bobo 01-05-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4354248)
(or so you hear)

You mean Lawler or thatcher? Both were complete cunts.

#1-norm-fan 01-05-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4354238)
I thought Falling Down was a pretty awesome movie at the time.

It was a great movie.

I liked this one too...

http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/pro...440.1020.A.jpg

Blonde Moment 01-05-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobo (Post 4354246)
TNA only became relevant when Hogan came along. His popularity alone drew fans to the programme and even the live events. My main reason for going to the TNA show in the UK was to see hogan, sting and a couple of the knockouts. Otherwise with the exception or AJ Styles and Aries, TNA is shit.

I'd rate HHH above Benoit but not the others. But arguably we were denied perhaps a few more iconic moments for Edge and Eddie due to tragic circumstances.

Foley endeared himself more to the fans as the unwashed, unkempt, loveable loser who came good not to mention his hardcore style which was unseen prior to his arrival.

Jericho had plenty of funny moments in both the WCW and wwe and was a big star in both.

Eddie did it all at every weight level and of all those mentioned above I rate him the highest.

Foley was nothing more then a glorified stuntman, a trash wrerstler and when you take that away you have nothing.

While Jericho was a big star he was also known for injuring his opponents and botching spots on a regular basis

While an awesome wrestler Eddie sucked on the mike and it took him juicing to go up the ladder. He was a good midcarder.

Edge had the look but not the charisma, you take away the TLC matches and what do you have left? GORE GORE GORE!!

Angle was an awesome wrestler but clumsy on the mike and still is

TNA sacrificed what brought them to the dance thinking that some old faces would do the job that a crap load of money, time and exporsure would. We went from the women putting on a show, often outshining them men to being regurgitated lesser divas

Ultra Mantis 01-05-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobo (Post 4354217)
All it takes to be famous in the wwe these days is become a crack addict like Randy Orton, break your neck and retire early like Edge, bone the bosses daughter like Triple H , have a heart attack live on the air like jerry Lawler or fall to your death like Owen hart.

I bet you haven't done a single one of those things.

whiteyford 01-05-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4354254)
Foley was nothing more then a glorified stuntman, a trash wrerstler and when you take that away you have nothing.

One of the greatest promo guys ever and the 'stunts' were always part of a larger story. The whole glorified stuntman stuff is bollocks, yeah he took some ridiculous bumps in his career but the most successful part of it was his toned down mr Socko stuff.

Shisen Kopf 01-05-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4354252)
It was a great movie.

I liked this one too...

http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/pro...440.1020.A.jpg

I taped that movie off of hbo back in the day. Hooray VCRs!

Bobo 01-05-2014 07:24 PM

I think wwe needs to do a separate divas wrestling Show and get back buff female hotties like beth Phoenix, Gail Kim, Victoria, Lita etc and make them wear tighter skimpier out fights or indeed have naked oil wrestling matches. The kids need to see it some time. Also maybe use some of the puny wrestlers like Daniel Bryan and santino and hornswoggle and have them dominated by say tamina in the ring like her using her tits to crush santino. Ooh baby.

Bobo 01-05-2014 07:25 PM

Didn't jimmy hart used to run a naked women's wrestling promotion?

Shisen Kopf 01-05-2014 07:27 PM

Wrestle-licious


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