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Bad News Gertner 08-31-2015 07:15 PM

I challenged him to a taped fist match at the Air Canada Centre.

McLegend 08-31-2015 07:18 PM

I generally don't believe in wrestlers to be lucky. I do think most of the time people do get to the spot they deserve. I think everything evens out.

However the Brutus argument might contradict me on that.

#1-norm-fan 08-31-2015 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4696991)
I challenged him to a taped fist match at the Air Canada Centre.

Did you record it? Could have been a good part of the undercard for the "Pussies no-showing fights" event DVD I'll be selling in a month.

NormanSmiley 08-31-2015 07:19 PM

I hate how you spell center gertrude. Makes my stomach crawl:|

NormanSmiley 08-31-2015 07:31 PM

Lmfao @ fan calling gerty a curtain jerker.

Bad News Gertner 08-31-2015 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NormanSmiley (Post 4696997)
I hate how you spell center gertrude. Makes my stomach crawl:|

I'm so sorry for that. Brb, gonna go grab some chocolate milk out of the fridge. Shouldn't be long, it's only a few metres away.

Bad News Gertner 08-31-2015 07:37 PM

Lol Dale plays rugby and would probably kick my giant ass in a heartbeat.

#1-norm-fan 08-31-2015 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4697009)
Lol Dale plays rugby and would probably kick my giant ass in a heartbeat.

Well get on that and we'll make it the main event, then. See if he'll pay for the flight to make it worth your while. I'll give you all proceeds for the sale of the DVD as well. Gonna need SOME actual fighting on this thing.

NormanSmiley 08-31-2015 07:41 PM

You drinking chocolate milk just makes me despise you even more

Simple Fan 08-31-2015 07:46 PM

Milk racist

#1-norm-fan 08-31-2015 07:47 PM

Smiley's such a racist even his reps aren't colored.

Bad News Gertner 08-31-2015 07:47 PM

Dale plays rugby. I run 5 km races. I see a mis-match.

NormanSmiley 08-31-2015 07:49 PM

Milk is fucking disgusting. D, 2 percent, skim, almond, pink or chocolate fuck every milk drinker

Bad News Gertner 08-31-2015 07:52 PM

Now that's just nonsense.

NormanSmiley 08-31-2015 07:55 PM

Your bullshit un-american spelling is nonsense. Fuckin dino bravo

Simple Fan 08-31-2015 07:57 PM

What about Yoohoo, thats not milk it chocolate drink.

NormanSmiley 08-31-2015 07:58 PM

I have never once had a yoohoo to drink. I cannot speak on it

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-31-2015 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4696973)
I actually went to Toronto this weekend for the sole purpose of fighting Dale Newstead but he didn't show up.

uh.... I had a barbershop appointment.

NormanSmiley 08-31-2015 09:20 PM

My partner is fresh to death

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-31-2015 09:21 PM

dWo's 4lyfeness cannot be denied

parkmania 09-01-2015 12:31 AM

I agree with Jeff Jarrett being on the Lucky list, but I would also add Jerry Lawler to that argument:

Kid who just wanted to be an artist randomly gets to "give it one try" and goes on to have a career many would give their souls for. Never really gets a full shot in WWE but is so well-established from his territory days that any time he wanted to have a match, he gets instant credibility. Then suffers a heart attack on air while world-class medical personnel are in the same building and save his life.

KIRA 09-03-2015 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4696859)
You forgot that Nash was Super Shredder in TMNT II: Secret of the Ooze.

#GoNinjaGoNinjaGoNInjaGo

And even in that he managed to be lazy (being on screen for all of 2mins ) before injuring himself by collapsing the roof.

NormanSmiley 09-03-2015 05:15 PM

Kevin nash slandering should be banned!

DAMN iNATOR 09-04-2015 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4698888)
And even in that he managed to be lazy (being on screen for all of 2mins ) before injuring himself by collapsing the roof.

LOL, injury-prone wrestlers, amirite?

Maluco 09-04-2015 09:49 PM

Unluckiest - Big Show - horribly booked when he could have been the next Andre. Guy should have been going undefeated and used as a special attraction, a genuine star, but unfortunately entered companies at the wrong time and in the wrong era. Now he has threads about how noone can make him interesting in any situation. Sad and frustrating.

Luckiest - Sandman - no idea how he was able to make a living wrestling for so long. He owes Paul Heyman every cent he ever made because he was horrendous as a performer. If you go back now, he was wasted and all over the place in so many matches, but his character earned him a living, with absolutely no obvious talent.

Mercenary 09-04-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NormanSmiley (Post 4697035)
I have never once had a yoohoo to drink. I cannot speak on it


It's gross

Bad News Gertner 09-05-2015 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 4699444)
Unluckiest - Big Show - horribly booked when he could have been the next Andre. Guy should have been going undefeated and used as a special attraction, a genuine star, but unfortunately entered companies at the wrong time and in the wrong era. Now he has threads about how noone can make him interesting in any situation. Sad and frustrating.

Luckiest - Sandman - no idea how he was able to make a living wrestling for so long. He owes Paul Heyman every cent he ever made because he was horrendous as a performer. If you go back now, he was wasted and all over the place in so many matches, but his character earned him a living, with absolutely no obvious talent.

I friggen LOVED the Sandman

NormanSmiley 09-05-2015 11:26 AM

Thank you mercenary for looking out for norman!

KIRA 09-05-2015 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 4699444)
Unluckiest - Big Show - horribly booked when he could have been the next Andre. Guy should have been going undefeated and used as a special attraction, a genuine star, but unfortunately entered companies at the wrong time and in the wrong era. Now he has threads about how noone can make him interesting in any situation. Sad and frustrating.

Luckiest - Sandman - no idea how he was able to make a living wrestling for so long. He owes Paul Heyman every cent he ever made because he was horrendous as a performer. If you go back now, he was wasted and all over the place in so many matches, but his character earned him a living, with absolutely no obvious talent.

The Sandman had the ultimate job showing up to work with a beer in your hand being part of that job (being already completely fucking wasted was optional) and you get to hit people over the head with a cane. Lucky as hell.

thekrow 09-05-2015 05:32 PM

In a way I would have to say Matt Rage. His career was cut short in the early days when he got sick with cancer and he was out for a long time before making a kick ass return after beating cancer...but he lost out on so much time and would've been a main eventer/legend now, if he didn't get sick. Like, he is lucky to have beaten cancer and have his health but unlucky in that it has really hurt his career and he didn't get as many accomplishments as his contemporaries like Swede Savard.

Maluco 09-05-2015 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4699650)
The Sandman had the ultimate job showing up to work with a beer in your hand being part of that job (being already completely fucking wasted was optional) and you get to hit people over the head with a cane. Lucky as hell.

Lol, you could add that to it too! He really was abysmal. I can understand Gertner liking the wild personality, especially being younger at the time, but he was abysmal and although people sometimes say that performers make the character, I don't think there was any skill involved. He was just a drunk that was allowed to hit people lol.

thekrow 09-05-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 4699663)
Lol, you could add that to it too! He really was abysmal. I can understand Gertner liking the wild personality, especially being younger at the time, but he was abysmal and although people sometimes say that performers make the character, I don't think there was any skill involved. He was just a drunk that was allowed to hit people lol.

hahaha reminds me a lot of Xristo Diavlo! All he does is drink and hits people!

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-05-2015 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thekrow (Post 4699665)
hahaha reminds me a lot of Xristo Diavlo! All he does is drink and hits people!

what the fuck are you talking about?


Listened to the podcast, going to make an argument with you beautiful men. I didn't say Arn would be champion, I said he could have had a few main even pay days (re: War Games). He was probably more politically savvy than Flair in that he didn't anger people so intensely, so he was always around to fill a hole when need be, if someone got injured and they needed someone strong to either be put over to sort of carry things over to the next months, or put someone over. That's what being versatile like Arn could lead to, as far as I'm concerned.

Great job as usual.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-05-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4696549)
Owen was not the better fit than Bret. Rose coloured glasses my friend.

If he had a better promo he'd have been the better Hart. He had Bret's technical with the high flying ability too. Bret wasn't a master orator by any stretch so Owen was pretty terrible.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-05-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4699685)
If he had a better promo he'd have been the better Hart. He had Bret's technical with the high flying ability too. Bret wasn't a master orator by any stretch so Owen was pretty terrible.

It's not as simple as being a "better talker". It's about how you carry yourself and how you wrestle. Bret wrestled like a main event champion, Owen didn't. Plus, Owen COULD fly certainly, but most of his run in the WWF was spent NOT flying (insert obvious joke about his death here... aka fuck off). His work was good, and he was for sure a great worker, but he did not string together the body of work Bret did. He just did not work a main event style. Maybe over time it could have progressed there, but to me, I've never seen it, at least at Bret's level.

I think Sean Waltman made the point, while Owen was great, he just didn't take it all that seriously, whereas Bret did, and that's why Bret was Bret and Owen was Owen. Maybe if Owen took it as seriously as Bret, he could have been the number one Hart, but he just wasn't, talking aside. He was not the worker that Bret was.

KIRA 09-05-2015 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4699687)
It's not as simple as being a "better talker". It's about how you carry yourself and how you wrestle. Bret wrestled like a main event champion, Owen didn't. Plus, Owen COULD fly certainly, but most of his run in the WWF was spent NOT flying (insert obvious joke about his death here... aka fuck off). His work was good, and he was for sure a great worker, but he did not string together the body of work Bret did. He just did not work a main event style. Maybe over time it could have progressed there, but to me, I've never seen it, at least at Bret's level.

I think Sean Waltman made the point, while Owen was great, he just didn't take it all that seriously, whereas Bret did, and that's why Bret was Bret and Owen was Owen. Maybe if Owen took it as seriously as Bret, he could have been the number one Hart, but he just wasn't, talking aside. He was not the worker that Bret was.

I can see your point I still maintain that Bret put me to sleep while Owen held my attention but we are different people. I've watched Bret and I just don't see the appeal outside of his heel turn which I think because he was a lot more brutal I wound up really digging it.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-05-2015 07:46 PM

Bret taking it too seriously was his biggest flaw. Owen looked like he was having fun. That kind of energy Bret never had.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-05-2015 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4699707)
Bret taking it too seriously was his biggest flaw. Owen looked like he was having fun. That kind of energy Bret never had.

Owen was nowhere near as authentic as Bret. Heaven forbid someone takes their profession seriously not worrying about it not being cool.

Bad News Gertner 09-05-2015 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thekrow (Post 4699665)
hahaha reminds me a lot of Xristo Diavlo! All he does is drink and hits people!

Love this so much

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-05-2015 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4699713)
Love this so much

fuck you Gertner, you pain in the ass :rant:


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