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Ol Dirty Dastard 01-31-2018 09:51 PM

Probably because Serena Williams is a draw and highly marketable.

Destor 01-31-2018 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5080770)
Don't women get paid the same amount for major tennis events? I read that somewhere, but it doesn't change the point of your argument.

Thats a fair play, womens tennis is a draw

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-31-2018 09:57 PM

Probably the mono-e-mono nature of the sport. I don't watch much tennis, but I find women's tennis as entertaining as mens.

Marketing or quality of play?

Fignuts 01-31-2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5080719)
Asuka going after Charlotte makes enough sense for me. I think there's potential in Ronda vs. Charlotte too. It really should be a "main event" women's division of Asuka, Ronda, Charlotte, Nattie and maybe Sasha. Everyone else feels "mid-card."

Nia has proven herself this past year. Don't think its a stretch to include her on the list. Shes gotten better and better, and what inexperience she still has, she can make up for with the spectacle of her tossing around the other girls like ragdolls.

Mr. Nerfect 01-31-2018 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5080777)
Nia has proven herself this past year. Don't think its a stretch to include her on the list. Shes gotten better and better, and what inexperience she still has, she can make up for with the spectacle of her tossing around the other girls like ragdolls.

I'll have to retain reserved judgment on that.

Destor 01-31-2018 11:44 PM

I never get behind people having "im fat" as an excuse to play the power house.

Destor 01-31-2018 11:44 PM

Doesnt work for me

Mr. Nerfect 02-01-2018 12:48 AM

I used to find that she hadn't grown into her own shtick. She'd do this weird eye thing, and I never knew what it was supposed to be. Why is she not like most girls?

Fignuts 02-01-2018 12:52 AM

I dunno, lately she's been showing off some really neat power spots too, so she's not just "rawr I like big macs" without any substance.

Mr. Nerfect 02-01-2018 01:11 AM

Eh, she was called up too early and I don't care enough to challenge my initial perception of her. Good for her, but I find it hard-pressed to care even if true.

Juan 02-01-2018 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5079989)
Honestly her role in the company runs parallel with the quality drop for me as a viewer. Around 03ish. Who is responasible for the womens division is tough to say. She for certian has played a role no doubt.

I will say that the womens division is my favorite thing going for the company right now and i honestly feel Banks is prob the 3rd best worker in the country. Shes one dick short of being a top act.

Pretty much this

JimmyMess 02-01-2018 07:45 AM

I just don't like how she is a full-blown heel in the first hour of shows, and a complete PR-face for another hour, or vice-versa... she takes you out of the show when she does things like that.

Big Vic 02-01-2018 08:06 AM

People were talking about merch sales on page 2.

I believe AJ Lee was in the top 10 for merch sales before she left the company. Am I wrong?

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-01-2018 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5080839)
Pretty much this

:yes:

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-01-2018 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5080841)
People were talking about merch sales on page 2.

I believe AJ Lee was in the top 10 for merch sales before she left the company. Am I wrong?

Is this about not making what she was worth? Wouldn't it depend on her current contract? Because AJ got popular out of the blue and before that would have had about 0 value, and wouldn't have been making much.

If she was still popular by the time she'd be renewing, she'd have probably made a pretty penny. Plus she probably made some good cash on her royalties.

Destor 02-01-2018 09:10 AM

yeah she was def gonna make good money had she not became the wife of the most bitter man in the world

Destor 02-01-2018 09:11 AM

*2nd most according to a recent TPWW poll

Mr. Nerfect 02-01-2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5080858)
*2nd most according to a recent TPWW poll

Haha.

Emperor Smeat 02-02-2018 09:35 PM

Found this interesting since Steph publicly credits Triple H for being responsible for the Women's Revolution. Gave them the same foundation and training as male wrestlers were getting in NXT and the end result was the growth of the Women's division in recent years.

Quote:

"In terms of WWE, Paul Leveque (Triple H) started recruiting elite athletes from all over the world, both male and female and he started training them the same way as men, he the same opportunity to tell stories in the ring, the same as men and what resulted was a huge ground swell of our audience chanting for our women and chanting women's wrestling and 'This is Wrestling' and it really gave rise to the voice of our audience and they knew they could impact the content of our show."
Came from a recent interview she had with the Times of India: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/62658301.cms

Fignuts 02-02-2018 09:45 PM

If thats true, then yeah, he does deserve some of the credit.

Mr. Nerfect 02-03-2018 05:53 PM

You can see the difference between the talent hired when John Laurinaitis is head of talent and when Triple H takes it over. It's down to a bunch of compounded factors though. WWE has always had good enough female talent. Nattie, Beth, Molly, Victoria, etc. Look at how Michelle McCool was treated in the Royal Rumble. She came from the Diva Search era, was first Divas Champion, etc.

It's a PR stunt. But they got the chance to have "men's matches" in NXT with Paige and Emma. But Ronda Rousey was proving women can draw before that, and before that, Dutch booked the women to be legitimate in TNA too. So it's like, what even is the Women's Revolution? It's just a change of presentation.

Shisen Kopf 02-03-2018 06:12 PM

I am very angry about all of this

Swiss Ultimate 02-05-2018 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OmletteDuFromage (Post 5079975)
Once an organic phenomena fueled by passionate fans and girls who worked hard to prove themselves to be on an equal footing with their male counterparts. We see right through your PR fallacy Stephanie. And we are not going to have anymore of your agenda. Who is with me?

They're not on equal footing with their male counterparts at all.


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