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The Icon of Elisim 09-11-2005 08:03 PM

Ed Norton would be a sweet Carnage I think

Jason Cage 09-11-2005 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
His weaknesses include water and being turned into glass.

i thought it was wind :shifty:

mitchables 09-11-2005 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior
Whats sandmans backstory and his weakness?

Sandman was a criminal on the run from the law. He was hiding out on a remote beach, unaware that the Government were running atomic tests on it. He was affected by one of the atomic blasts, and his molecules fused with those of the sand on the beach, thus making him Sandman. I'm pretty sure he can harden himself to the qualities of diamonds, and he can 'disperse' himself. Fun times.

Kane Knight 09-11-2005 09:18 PM

I don't remember diamonds, but he can do a solid block of concrete-level shit.

UmbrellaCorporation 09-11-2005 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim
Ed Norton would be a sweet Carnage I think


Oh shit yes.

What Would Kevin Do? 09-12-2005 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Errr...Joke? Does the guy even REMOTELY strike you as Carnage?

He could do it. Dye his hair, curl it a bit, and let him act like a lunatic. If they want to cast Tobey as Spiderman, and Topher as Venom, Jake would work for Carnage... They're all about the same build, same style, and Jake looks the craziest. Unfortunately, I can't find a good picture of Cassidy without the Carnage symbiote online.

What Would Kevin Do? 09-12-2005 01:16 AM

Or maybe Stephen Dorff. I think he could pull it off.

Dave Youell 09-12-2005 08:04 AM

You know, they may not actually have Venom himself in the story as a whole, they could just show brock in the Bugle all the time and set the wheels in motion for the next one (Rami has said he'd like to do 6 right?) So at the end of the 3rd one after Sandman and Goblin are dead, Brock could find the suit and boo yah!

mitchables 09-12-2005 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I don't remember diamonds, but he can do a solid block of concrete-level shit.

You're probably right :$

John la Rock 09-13-2005 09:31 PM

Isn't Venom supposed to be a muscle head? not a computer nerd?

the muscle guy from CSI would be a perfect Eddie Brock I dunno

Destor 09-13-2005 09:38 PM

Venom shoudl be HUGE! :naughty:

Kane Knight 09-14-2005 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
He could do it. Dye his hair, curl it a bit, and let him act like a lunatic. If they want to cast Tobey as Spiderman, and Topher as Venom, Jake would work for Carnage... They're all about the same build, same style, and Jake looks the craziest. Unfortunately, I can't find a good picture of Cassidy without the Carnage symbiote online.

Jesus Christ, you TRY to be thick, don't you?

I was telling you my pick was a joke. :|

Kane Knight 09-14-2005 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by John la Rock
Isn't Venom supposed to be a muscle head? not a computer nerd?

the muscle guy from CSI would be a perfect Eddie Brock I dunno

Brock wasn't a monster when he was first merged with the suit. The stronger he gets, though, the stronger the suit makes him. However, it bulked him up even when he had just been fired.

The thing is, they don't need a bulky guy to play Brock unless they CHOOSE to go that way. What they could do is make him scrawny and bulked up as Venom, or they could go with a bigger Brock.

Savio 09-14-2005 09:59 PM

Get Brock Lesnar.

Kane Knight 09-15-2005 01:15 AM

He's got the build.

What Would Kevin Do? 09-15-2005 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Jesus Christ, you TRY to be thick, don't you?

I was telling you my pick was a joke. :|


Errr, I thought you were asking me if I was joking ;)

Anywho, cut me some slack, I don't sleep anymore, so I'm no longer coherent.

BlackDawn2024 09-24-2005 01:09 AM

Venom's overrated. There are much better villains in Spider-Man's rogues gallery....

.....like Arcade! :shifty:

UmbrellaCorporation 09-28-2005 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior
Get Brock Lesnar.


It's a wellknown fact that Venom hates the internet. :shifty:

Fox 09-29-2005 02:00 AM

Lesnar as Venom would be SWEEEEET. After that he wouldn't need to come groveling back to Vince McMahon, he could just do the next two SM movies and be set for life.

Mr. Monday Morning 11-06-2005 05:57 AM

Thomas Hayden Church, ladies and gentlemen:

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/images/tchurch.jpg

Kane Knight 11-06-2005 10:06 AM

Looks like Sandman.

Mr. Monday Morning 11-06-2005 11:31 AM

Is it me or does his right arm look about twice the size of his left :$

Kane Knight 11-06-2005 11:41 AM

It's not just you. I stared at that picture for like a minute before I figured out what was wrong.

Joey Slugs 11-06-2005 02:16 PM

topher grace will be electro. book it.

sam raimi has talked over and over again how much he loves the sinister six as spider-man's original villians.

Nowhere Man 11-06-2005 02:31 PM

Hmmmm.... maybe they could use Venom's origin from the Ultimate Spider-Man series. It's not as cool as the original, but it'd be a lot easier to cram into one movie.

John la Rock 11-06-2005 02:31 PM

should be interesting. hopefully the just use Eddie Brock as build-up for Venom in Spidey 4

Boondock Saint 11-06-2005 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Looks like Sandman.


Nark Order 11-06-2005 05:12 PM

Topher Grace cast as Venom.... Wasn't Venom a gigantic fucking freak of a man?

Kane Knight 11-06-2005 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Slugs
topher grace will be electro. book it.

sam raimi has talked over and over again how much he loves the sinister six as spider-man's original villians.

Which would be much better than the other shit they could pull.

Kane Knight 11-06-2005 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
Hmmmm.... maybe they could use Venom's origin from the Ultimate Spider-Man series. It's not as cool as the original, but it'd be a lot easier to cram into one movie.

My only real problem with that is that Ultimate Venom sucks.

"We were trying to cure cancer by building a suit that..."

they've already established John Jameson, astronaut and hearthrob, so they could as easily work with the 90s Cartoon version, so ease of use doesn't make much of a diff. Besides, if Raimi is worth even a tenth the stock people put in him, he won't do Venom in one movie.

Kane Knight 11-06-2005 05:26 PM

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Topher Grace cast as Venom.... Wasn't Venom a gigantic fucking freak of a man?

Yeah and no.

Brock didn't really become a huge beefcake until Brock found out that the stronger he was, the more the symbiote could enhance his strength. Eddie went from "shmuck on a newspaper" to "Olympic class strength" in a short period of time. The symbiote also makes him look bigger to an extent.

The guy playing Brock doesn't have to be that big, especially if Venom is CGI'd heavily. They could as easily pull a Lou Ferigno thing, like the original Hulk series. When you're that big, who cares if you look like the punk who plays sissy lil banner?

Nark Order 11-06-2005 06:27 PM

I guess it should be ok. I like Topher Grace as an actor so I'm sure it'll turn out alright.

Nark Order 11-06-2005 06:29 PM

It will be cool to see him all decked out in special effects anyways...

Fignuts 11-08-2005 12:47 PM

Good god.

Again with Carnage?

I will tell you this. Carnage has about a 5% chance of being in this franchise. He is a lame character, with absolutely no depth whatsoever. Venom was great, and had a lot of different layers to his character, albeit being overexposed. Carnage is just a crazy guy with venom's powers, and some unoriginal new ones mixed in. He is a product of shitty unoriginal 90's writing, and I was overjoyed when he was recently killed off(for now).

I understand why a lot of people like him. Yes, he looks cool, but so what?

Hey let's put Chakaras in the next Batman Movie? Don't know who he is? Who Cares, he looks cool!

Kane Knight 11-08-2005 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts
Good god.

Again with Carnage?

I will tell you this. Carnage has about a 5% chance of being in this franchise. He is a lame character, with absolutely no depth whatsoever. Venom was great, and had a lot of different layers to his character, albeit being overexposed. Carnage is just a crazy guy with venom's powers, and some unoriginal new ones mixed in. He is a product of shitty unoriginal 90's writing, and I was overjoyed when he was recently killed off(for now).

I understand why a lot of people like him. Yes, he looks cool, but so what?

Hey let's put Chakaras in the next Batman Movie? Don't know who he is? Who Cares, he looks cool!

Chill.

Just because he lacks depth doesn't mean he won't show up. The guy was a hugely popular character who has invaded almost every variant of Spider-Man.

I'm not syaing he should be in, just that that's piss poor reasoning to say he won't appear.

Fignuts 11-08-2005 01:39 PM

His similarities to Venom are too great, for them to use him. While a second green goblin story would work due to the harry/peter relationship, Carnage wouldn't have that intense backstory to save him. His only connection to any of the characters, is that he was eddie brock's cell mate. You can get away with these kind of rehashes in comics(as evidenced by all the carnage fans on TPWW) but in films it wouldn't work. The critics would tear it apart. And don't forget how much money they spend on these films. That's a factor when choosing a villian. Do you think they are going to choose a less interesting version of venom, just because he was popular in one of the lowest times in comics history?

Jinx Chaos 11-08-2005 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CYCLOPTERSAURUS
Venom, awesome. I think that's bad casting and I think he deserves his own movie instead of being one of 3, but it's Venom, and I'm happy.

Same here.

Kane Knight 11-08-2005 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts
His similarities to Venom are too great, for them to use him. While a second green goblin story would work due to the harry/peter relationship, Carnage wouldn't have that intense backstory to save him. His only connection to any of the characters, is that he was eddie brock's cell mate. You can get away with these kind of rehashes in comics(as evidenced by all the carnage fans on TPWW) but in films it wouldn't work. The critics would tear it apart. And don't forget how much money they spend on these films. That's a factor when choosing a villian. Do you think they are going to choose a less interesting version of venom, just because he was popular in one of the lowest times in comics history?

But he's still popular. Critics don't do much criticising these days. They're encouraged to get people to watch the movies. Crooked if you ask me, but whatever. Carnage is still big with retarded virginss aged 5-35, and they're the ones most inclined to see a comic book movie anyway.

I guess I'm just not getting the artfag approach to a popcorn flick based on a 4-color superhero.

Fignuts 11-08-2005 08:04 PM

Actually most people hate Carnage, nowadays. Don't know why so many people on TPWW like him. Seems like every one of his fans gathered here.

Funky Fly 11-08-2005 08:08 PM

Carnage doesn't translate into a movie villain, IMO. Like I could see him being defeated in the opening of the movie or a passing reference to something that happened between movies, but not being the main focus of a particular movie.


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