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Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:08 PM

Am I the only one who isn't a Charlie fan? I mean, I thought he was interesting during the first season or so, but once his backstory had been told he was kind of boring to me.
I thought the timing and manner of his death was perfect.

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Kano (Post 2847592)
Maybe the tide eroded the sand and somehow Nikki & Paulo's skeletons ended up in the caves lol

:y:

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:09 PM

I can't think of a good reason for Ana Lucia to come back. I marked out when Michael killed her and Libby. It was such a 'two birds with one stone' moment

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:10 PM

Nikki and Paulo will end up being the key to the entire Lost mythology. What a swerve that would be

Supreme Olajuwon 12-08-2009 04:11 PM

The skeletons are supposed to be the thing that ties the show together at the end. I doubt they'd waste that big reveal on Rose and Bernard.

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:12 PM

I think there's a lot of other things that are supposed to tie it all together

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2847600)
The skeletons are supposed to be the thing that ties the show together at the end. I doubt they'd waste that big reveal on Rose and Bernard.

Who else could they put there? Boone and Shannon? Say that Shannon decided she liked Boone back so they died happily together in a cave? I dunno. Rose and Bernard seems like the safe bet, but that's the joy of Lost, you never know.

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:15 PM

I think the mystery still surrounding the nature of Jacob and his enemy, and the smoke monster, are bigger questions

Supreme Olajuwon 12-08-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2847603)
I think there's a lot of other things that are supposed to tie it all together

yeah but the producers said they put the skeletons with the stones there on purpose so that they could prove they had the whole show planned from the start, and weren't just making it up as they went along

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:16 PM

Also, what's the story on Walt? Isn't he supposed to be important?

Jon Kano 12-08-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2847594)
Am I the only one who isn't a Charlie fan? I mean, I thought he was interesting during the first season or so, but once his backstory had been told he was kind of boring to me.
I thought the timing and manner of his death was perfect.

I was never satisfied with his whole ending. He knew/wanted to die because he was told, and going by the show's logic (kinda) that IF he died, Claire and Aaron would be rescued, or at the very least, put onto a helicopter off the Island. Not only did he die, and that not happen, but the SECOND he found out that the boat wasn't there for the reasons he was told, that flash of the future should've rendered bad, since the supposed helicopter would not necessarily mean rescue.

I think the real reason why Claire was AWOL for a lot of season 5 was because of the actress's real life commitments, which in the past has been a reason for the story to be altered or have some plot holes.

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:17 PM

can we form a list of "important shit that needs to be covered"

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:17 PM

No doubt. This whole show is honestly revolving around 2 entities that nobody honestly could see except for a select few. It all ties back to Walt and Locke playing Othello (or was it Backgammon?) and the whole contrast between light and darkness ordeal. I just want to see how the hell the 2 of them ever came to be there in the first place.

thedamndest 12-08-2009 04:18 PM

If they bring Ana Lucia back I can't wait until they kill her again.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-08-2009 04:19 PM

If it all ends up being Hurley's imagination, I'll be unhappy.

Jon Kano 12-08-2009 04:19 PM

Jacob, his enemy, the Island, Richard and what the show is all about - will be the focus of season 6 imo.

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2847613)
can we form a list of "important shit that needs to be covered"

We should.

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:20 PM

- Jacob and his enemy
- Richard's ability to not age
- Walt's "gifts"
- the smoke monster
- the skeletons
- the numbers. why was Hurley's friend repeating them?
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thedamndest 12-08-2009 04:21 PM

The statue
The donkey wheel

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:22 PM

Is there still uncertainty over why Charles Whidmore wants the island, and how and why Dharma was there?

Again, I have to rewatch seasons 4 and 5 before 6

Jon Kano 12-08-2009 04:22 PM

Its so cool that all the little things from even the first season are so important.

I remember what Locke said to Walt when they played Backgammon the first time,

'Two sides.....one is light....one is dark...' so significant.

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2847625)
The statue
The donkey wheel

the statue definitely. I think it indicates an ancient civilization on the island though. There's a lot of temple shit on the island. I guess the powers of the Island/Jacob were there God or something to that effect.

The donkey wheel was obviously man made. That's a good point. I just kind of accepted that it was a part of the island but it obviously got there somehow. But how?

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:24 PM

Why did Ben steal Rouseau's baby
How long had the island folk been there before Dharma arrived
What is Dharma's real objective in all of this

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:26 PM

On the subject of Polar Bears...


we now know that the polar bears were just test subjects from the Dharma installation. We saw their cages, and apparently at least one of them travelled through time and came out in the desert.
But is that all there is to it? They were just using polar bears as guinea pigs and adapting them to tropical weather?
Do we know why? Why polar bears?

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2847634)
On the subject of Polar Bears...


we now know that the polar bears were just test subjects from the Dharma installation. We saw their cages, and apparently at least one of them travelled through time and came out in the desert.
But is that all there is to it? They were just using polar bears as guinea pigs and adapting them to tropical weather?
Do we know why? Why polar bears?

Hopefully Charolette can explain this.

Jon Kano 12-08-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 2847633)
Why did Ben steal Rouseau's baby
How long had the island folk been there before Dharma arrived
What is Dharma's real objective in all of this

1 - I think he genuinely wanted to go against his former boss (Charles) to save a life, what with his own experiences of his mother being taken from him.

2 - Unknown

3 - Think DHARMA simply wanted to experiment and harness the unique geological and supernatural properties on the Island. I doubt they knew of its real supernatural significance and importance.

thedamndest 12-08-2009 04:29 PM

I'm not sure if we'll get any more on the donkey wheel. It feels like a lot of things are kind of left to the imagination in terms of how they actually work. We know that there is a large source of energy underground and we know that there is a wheel in the wall. At some point someone figured out that they could stick the wheel in the wall and it would cause the island to move while transporting the turner to Africa.

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:30 PM

That damn Dharma Initiative. Buncha sneaky bastards. I hope we get to see Radzinksy blow his brains out this season.

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:32 PM

It makes sense that Dharma just wanted to experiment and study the island. The real question is, how did they know about the island and how did they find it?

It's not like "the island" is just known to the world like The Amazon and The Congo, and you can just go there and study it.
Someone or something had to inform them about it and allow them to get there.

Same goes for that Army team with Whidmore. Was that US or UK army? Were they there by accident or were they on a specific government mission?

thedamndest 12-08-2009 04:32 PM

How did the Black Rock get to the center of the island and who was on it?

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:35 PM

Richard was. Other than that I would just assume a bunch of sailors who didn't get his gift and died.

They tell us a little about the black rock in an episode where we see a painting of it being auctioned off. I don't remember what year it went missing, but they tell that. 1800s. They also explain that it was either a slave or spice ship or something. Again, I forget.

How it got to the center of the Island? Beats me. I guess I just chalked it up to wierdness and assumed it was a tidal wave or something

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2847644)
It makes sense that Dharma just wanted to experiment and study the island. The real question is, how did they know about the island and how did they find it?

It's not like "the island" is just known to the world like The Amazon and The Congo, and you can just go there and study it.
Someone or something had to inform them about it and allow them to get there.

Same goes for that Army team with Whidmore. Was that US or UK army? Were they there by accident or were they on a specific government mission?

One would assume that someone from the island told others maybe?

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Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2847646)
How did the Black Rock get to the center of the island and who was on it?

As for how it got in the middle of the island, maybe a hurricane or perhaps there used to be a tributary that flowed through the jungle and perhaps the ship was washed out there?

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:39 PM

No she was part of the French crew. They were only there 16 years before the passengers of 815.

The Black Rock was from the 1800s and Richard was on it. I'm pretty sure. Like I said, I intend on rewatching seasons 4 and 5 soon.

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:41 PM

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_black_rock

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2847655)
No she was part of the French crew. They were only there 16 years before the passengers of 815.

The Black Rock was from the 1800s and Richard was on it. I'm pretty sure. Like I said, I intend on rewatching seasons 4 and 5 soon.

I edited that. :)

Jon Kano 12-08-2009 04:43 PM

DHARMA's founder/sponsor was ALVAR HANSO, of the HANSO foundtation and family. The same family who owned the log book of The Black Rock (It wasn't a painting being auctioned, it was a log book).

Also, if you decode the blast door map, the site of the black rock is also listed as being the final resting place of someone called Hanso.

There is a connection, yet its not fully visable yet.

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:44 PM

Richard was not on the Black Rock. Not according to anything stated on the show so far. I don't know why I thought that. I guess it was something I must have thought up myself, and remembered as fact.
With so much going on in the show it's easily to occasionally get mixed up

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:45 PM

He could have been though...

Ermaximus 12-08-2009 04:47 PM

There is more to Richard than we truly know, that's for sure.

Jeritron 12-08-2009 04:53 PM

An episode containing backstory on Richard would answer a lot of questions about a lot of things


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