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Kalyx triaD 04-19-2010 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AssMan (Post 3032667)
I really hope this fails

That's fucked up.

Kane Knight 04-19-2010 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3032686)
That's fucked up.

He's a Wii fan. Probably just "wit."

Drakul 04-22-2010 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kotaku
Why have been people yelling at professional athletes who fumble and fall and anger them when those athletes are on their TVs and can't hear them? Because these people have been getting ready for the Xbox 360's Project Natal.

From an interview with Xbox 360 project manager Marc Whitten, who discusses some non-gaming applications of the sensors in Project Natal, the seeing, hearing, heckling-checking hands-free control device that will be released for Microsoft's game console later this year:

"But Natal isn't just about gaming — it's about all living-room experiences. Imagine a sporting event — Natal could know which team you're for because it sees your jersey, or knows you thought a bad call was made when you yell 'boo.' It learns about you and gets smarter to create a more tailored entertainment experience."

What sort of experience do you think it will tailor if, while watching a WWE match, a let out a Ric Flair "whooooo!" every time a guy does a chop? Not that I ever do that.

Source.

I'm not sure what the point of this is. How will Natal hearing you yell or boo tailor your entertainment? It's not going to make your team play any better or more often.
All I can think of is if you cheer for a specific team, it'll notify you when they are playing again but we already have tv/cable boxes that do notify/remind us of that stuff anyway.

Kalyx triaD 04-22-2010 12:35 AM

Not comfortable with something that interested in me, but most of this is 'Beyond 2000' talk anyway.

Fignuts 04-22-2010 12:52 AM

This is how the matrix started i bet

Kalyx triaD 04-22-2010 12:54 AM

More likely Skynet.

Drakul 06-04-2010 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CVG
CVG reported earlier that Microsoft will ditched the name 'Project Natal' when it announces to final retail name for its motion-sensing peripheral at E3 next month. That name, according to new rumours, will be 'Wave'.

So says a "source close to Microsoft", following yesterday's report and a slew of rumours surrounding the device over the past few days.

CVG was told that MS finally settled on a brand name in April, following a six-month consultation period.

Edge has reported that the peripheral is set to cost $149 in the US at launch - and that Microsoft has pencilled in a launch date of October 26.

Microsoft has a special presentation dedicated entirely to Natal kicking off at 7pm pacific time (3am GMT) on Sunday June 13. That's when it's all going down.

Source.

Edit: "Boxart" being used by GAME to take preorders.

http://img.game.co.uk/ml/3/4/6/9/346909ps_500h.jpg

#BROKEN Hasney 06-04-2010 05:39 AM

Can't wait to use my penis as a racket.

D Mac 06-04-2010 07:23 AM

Heh. Figured that less then 100 bucks was too good to be true.

PASS

Funky Fly 06-04-2010 07:26 AM

Wow, better be bundled with a ton of good games or fuck that price.

Kalyx triaD 06-04-2010 07:28 AM

150$ seems fair for what it's capable of.

Kane Knight 06-04-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3095162)
150$ seems fair for what it's capable of.

Depending on how it actually performs in home environments.

Kalyx triaD 06-04-2010 08:11 AM

Well I doubt it'll be reading real life objects and creating in-game items from it (or doing the other claims in that initial trailer), but based on the live demos that Microsoft were eager to present and the fact that they got a year of R&D after that - it should work.

I'd say the question is how the software holds up, and how traditional games will integrate Natal (or 'Wave' rather). I reckon word of mouth will be important as always, let the early adopters be our space monkeys.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-04-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac (Post 3095156)
Heh. Figured that less then 100 bucks was too good to be true.

PASS

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3095158)
Wow, better be bundled with a ton of good games or fuck that price.

You do realise that's the exact same source I cited that you're now believing?

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3095162)
150$ seems fair for what it's capable of.

It's just going to end up doing what the PS2 eyetoy did in the end, after seeing what lazy devs did with the Wii (and the announcement of Sonic Riders.... Come on now).

Hell, for $149, you'd at least expect it to have some processing power... but nope, it's going to have to use a couple of cores of the 360 so you won't even get games pushing the boundaries that use Natal.

Kalyx triaD 06-04-2010 09:53 AM

Natal is from the school of thought where power is irrelevant, so that's not an applicable point. They're going for a certain crowd with this.

Kalyx triaD 06-04-2010 09:54 AM

Don't think I'd buy it though, rather get a few games.

D Mac 06-04-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3095242)
You do realise that's the exact same source I cited that you're now believing?

No the source I am believing is Kalyx. :p

Kane Knight 06-04-2010 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3095250)
Natal is from the school of thought where power is irrelevant, so that's not an applicable point. They're going for a certain crowd with this.

*facepalm*

Clearly not true, as the unit had processing power and Microsoft was talking high powered units until it was deemed cost prohibitive.

so...If you ignore Microsoft, Third Party Devs for major titles that aren't aimed at that "certain crowd," the initial hardware, and so on...Then yes.

Otherwise. Hasney's right.

I'd follow up with "for that price, we should at least get what was advertised," but then, I'm just wacky like that. You know, with reasoning skills and pattern recognition and all.

Kane Knight 06-04-2010 04:36 PM

Hmmm...A nearly 500 dollar price tag to play Wii. How much doe Nintendo charge for a Wii?

Kane Knight 06-04-2010 04:41 PM

Sorry, nearly 400 dollars. Wouldn't want some dumb autistic kid to miss the point because I hit the wrong key.

BigDaddyCool 06-04-2010 04:46 PM

I got a wii for $100 cause my uncle bought one and never used it.

Kane Knight 06-04-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 3095724)
I got a wii for $100 cause my uncle bought one and never used it.

yeah, but you're a loser for owning one.

BigDaddyCool 06-04-2010 05:39 PM

Well at least I'm not going to spend $400 on a johnny come lately wii.

Drakul 06-05-2010 02:10 AM

Remember Joy Ride? The free XBLA game that was due out last summer but never appeared? Well, it's not free now.

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Microsoft's free-to-play Avatar racing game Joy Ride is reportedly getting a major motion-controlled tune-up. The BigPark-developed racer is now planned as a Project Natal launch title, CVG reports, and may no longer be free.

CVG cites a "senior retail source" in its report, who says Joy Ride will "no longer be free to play, but that it's been completely reworked into a bigger, richer game than before." The cartoony racing game made its debut at E3 2009, then pitched as a downloadable, stunt-filled title that would be supported by plenty of downloadable content. It was playable then, but its product page recently disappeared from Xbox.com. Yeah, something's up.

We're a little more than a week away from Microsoft's big Xbox 360 and Project Natal events, so expect confirmation or denial of Joy Ride's fate soon.
Source.

I would have liked it to be free but I'm betting it would have been like Game Room and had nothing to do at all unless you bought stuff for it which sort of defeats the "Its free!" idea. If we're paying for it, we should get a decent bundle of things to do from the start.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-05-2010 02:14 AM

Didn't realise it was motion controlled, thought it was joypad.

It looked shit when it was shown anyway, with a price and motion control, it may now fuck off.

Kane Knight 06-05-2010 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 3095794)
Well at least I'm not going to spend $400 on a johnny come lately wii.

That's different, because I*** want it.



***I referring to a certain entitled person, not actually me.

Kane Knight 06-05-2010 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3096094)
Didn't realise it was motion controlled, thought it was joypad.

It looked shit when it was shown anyway, with a price and motion control, it may now fuck off.

yeah, for free I was getting it. I mean, shit. Even if it sucks, free's a fair price. I might have gotten it with motion controls, but I'd be less interested. For a price? Fuck no.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-07-2010 03:53 PM

http://www.destructoid.com/project-n...d-175687.phtml

Family Rave :|

#BROKEN Hasney 06-07-2010 04:12 PM

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...o/lolnatal.gif

Kalyx triaD 06-07-2010 04:52 PM

The future of gaming.

Drakul 06-08-2010 10:25 AM

I saw the whole video. Her whole family play the game "wrongly". They seemed to gentley tap or wipe the air.
I think they where unsure and self concious doing it infront of camera.
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Drakul 06-11-2010 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kotaku
Ahead of next week's E3 in Los Angeles, two new titles for Microsoft's motion-control peripheral, Project Natal, have been revealed.

Those hoping for a wave-your-arms version of Halo or Fable are out of luck, though, as the two games are simple party titles (ie glorifed tech demos), similar to the kind we've seen for the system so far.

One is Living Statue, which according to a piece on the LA Times "lets players record their avatars dancing and singing karaoke-style, then e-mail the video masterpiece to their friends".

The second is Obstacle Course, in which "players pull, dodge and jump their way through a series of levels resembling what you would find at summer camp, sans the mosquitoes."

Of more interest to those hanging out for proper games is the final line of the report, which says "there will be about a dozen more Natal-licensed titles from other game developers unveiled Monday and Tuesday". A dozen games from companies that aren't Microsoft? Add those to the titles Microsoft itself will have ready and that's quite a launch lineup. Hopefully not all of them involve jumping around like a maniac.

Source.

I hope some of those titles don't involve random jumping and/or waving. Natal really has so much potentional. Use it for something a bit more advanced than EyeToy games, please.

Drakul 06-14-2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IGN
Tonight at a Microsoft event the company announced that the official name of their new motion-sensing controller for Xbox 360 is "Kinect." As we reported earlier a number of games were unveiled in a USA Today story that went up shortly before Microsoft could officially break the news.

From that event we've see a group of games that will accompany this new hardware that allows gamers to use their body as a controller. These games include:

A Yoga/Tai Chi Game: (official name to be announced)
A Soccer Game: (official name to be announced)
Joyride : A racing game where players can steer using their hands.
Kinect Sports : Boxing, bowling, beach volleyball, track and field, soccer and table tennis.
Kinectimals: Play with 20 different kitties like a lion, cheetah and tiger.
Kinect Adventures: River rafting with multiple players that move their bodies in the raft.
Dance Central : A So You Think You Can Dance game made by MTV games.

Along with Kinect games using Disney and Star Wars characters, there were also dashboard apps showing motion controls used to interact with Netflix. The dot on the screen follow where you point.

Users can also use motion controls to scroll through photos, start live video chats with friends, and share photos. This is done through a kinect app on the dashboard.

Source.

Not sure on the name Kinect. Or the spelling. I'd have liked it to have stayed as Natal or Wave. I'm hoping videos of the show turn up soon.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-14-2010 12:49 AM

Sounds like the worst line-up of games for a hardware add-on launch ever.

Watch the Move prove me wrong.

Kalyx triaD 06-14-2010 12:50 AM

Could have sworn I posted the news here, but I left it in the News thread. Should be more careful in the future. I tend to 'jump the gun' when I get a scoop, racing to post it first. Kinda like getting the by-line.

Drakul 06-14-2010 01:11 AM

I never thought to check the news thread. I thought if the news was posted it would have been here.

I try to post news quickly when I get it, too. Not that it matters. As long as the news gets here eventually.

Kalyx triaD 06-14-2010 01:19 AM

It's not a race, I just want that fucking by-line.

...For whatever reason.

Kalyx triaD 06-14-2010 01:29 AM

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Most promising may well be a Star Wars game, developed by Microsoft and Lucasarts, that features controller-free lightsaber duels, complete with force powers like "force push".

Kalyx triaD 06-14-2010 01:31 AM

They're announcing video chat as a 'feature' for Kinect. This is going downhill fast.

Kalyx triaD 06-14-2010 01:35 AM

The 'Minority Report' interface seems to work, and may well be the best application. Don't think I need a 150$ webcam with an interface upgrade. Perfectly fine with voice chat and moving the joystick.


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