HE DOESN'T KNOW IT'S A CHARACTER!!!! LOL

HIS INTENT IS TO HAVE SEX WITH A CHILD!!! WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW!!!

What if the decoy was actually a 17 year old? Would this just make everyone happy on all bases? lol

lol No. S-S-S-Strawman. ^^^^^^

Appeal to emotion. Try again.

Appeal to emotion Part 2: ALL CAPS.

Then the guys running the show would be knee dip in legal shit themselves, making the show many times better. So yeah, we'd all be happy.

On occasion.

The predators already in jail should really consider hiring Kalyx.

But... If his logic is so flawless... Surely none of them are in jail... Wait... What?

Again, I'm less inclined to argue really if someone posing as an underage kid starts the conversation. Still fucked up but you can't go out and start trying to build up the situation like that.

However if the guy is actively PMing people he thinks are 13 in that manner, saying the shit these guys say, and then comes to the house, it shows that he has the intention of finding little kids to have sex with.

Because everybody in jail deserves to be. The system can't be wrong, right? It's not like we have a prison population problem for locking up everybody who's merely deviant. Oh wait...

...Okay. I'm with you on this...

1) The all caps wasn't an appeal to emotion, it was me feeling the need to capitalize something I've had to say way too many times to try to get the point across.

2) Whether it would be illegal for the guys running the show to have a 17 year old play the decoy or not isn't the issue? Now who's dodging?

Forget there is even a show. Let's just say it's an elaborate plot by a 17 year old posing as a 13 year old. No one else is involved. Since he's simply playing a "character", if the guy shows up, does your "it's just a character" argument hold up?

I was referring to your content, the ALL CAPS thing was jest. You were still appealing to emotion, a logical fallacy. I wasn't pointing out you being emotional.

NoJabba.

The kid's underage and in danger so no, although the situation would be different - the guy would still be interacting with an underage child, actual age be damned. So yeah, he gets the flat mattress.

See how that works? Critical thinking, a just evaluation without some zero tolerance, interactionist bullshit? It's really not that hard.

No. Nor do I know any pedos or am one myself. I'm 'bout justice, homey.

Right.

This is very true. But he did break a law.

But you realize, as far as we know, you're just a screen name. That 18 year old claimed to be 13. You claim to be a black man of an age I can't recall. But we have no reason to doubt the validity of that until we get there.

Justice is relative, Kalyx. The law is not.

And we all know... You can't argue with THE LAW.

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Well if it's Dredd I'm dealing with, fuck that.

Different situation? You WERE the one who implied that the decoy being 18 had some effect on whether it was right or not though by saying he was talking to an "18 year old actor. Why bring up how old the actor is if it's not relevant?

And wouldn't a "just evaluation" of the situation say that the guy is an obvious threat to molest a child seeing as how he is being caught attempting to do so?

You win.

No.

Well then we have hit a road block, sir.

And for the record, I emphasized the actress' age because you guys were hung up on this 'underage character' that was in danger. Please know that the bulk of my argument is based on the fact that nobody was in any real danger, and the premise was an elaborate entrapment to begin with.

I was never hung up on the character being in danger... I don't think anyone was.

It's the fact that he didn't know it was a character which proves, if he found the profile, sent the PM, said all the details, drove to the house, that he is actively looking for a 13 year old to have sex with.

Duh.

Am fucking disgusted by this show. While I obviously do not sympathize with child predators, what gives a show the right to completely humiliate somebody in front of every single person they know? Let the god damn law deal with them, seems like cruel and unusual punishment to me.

Actually they shouldn't have went to the house, that was their choice. Anything that happens is on them. You are criticizing the best angle of the show!

I already posted one thing on this, based off of Perverted Justice's own acts.

The main piece of evidence (the chat) can be altered. For all we know, the 18 year old actor could have been presenting themselves AS an 18 year old, and it was changed after the fact. They do a copy and paste job on their own websites, and it's not like that can be hacked at all. :shifty:

I'm not saying these people are good people are even decent people. In the cases where they in fact did initiate the chat, good for them.

However:

Source: http://www.modemac.com/cgi-bin/wiki....verted_Justice

1 in 6 or less... Yeah, good thing we're getting that 1, even though we may be needlessly ruining the lives of the other 5.

What is it... "collateral damage?"

This is the only predator I have ever felt bad for. :( I suppose it's because he has a baby face, and he's pretty much just a kid himself.

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I honestly don't see him as a computer predator, but just a dumb teenage kid who didn't think clearly, and mentally, probably saw himself as a 13-year old, not aware that he was an adult. Society kinda babies kids now, so many of them don't really mature until they're like 30, and mentally, they still think and act like teenagers, and even see themselves as one through out their twenties. I know not everyone is like this, but plenty are. I think that was the case with Richer. And given that he actually was a teenager, it's not too shocking that he made this error.

Yeah you would bump this thread Zeeboe

Guilty as charged! I still love watching these clips on youtube. Been addicted since last summer. :yes:

Of course.

You fellas ever see "Hard Candy"? I saw it for the first time last summer after my banning, and oddly enough, some of the chats between the two main characters reminded me of the battles I've had on here. Here's the preview. :) (Although you won't see what chats that reminded me of the fights on here that I'm talking about in the preview.)

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Most of the predators are Indian. :nono:

Basically if the person who gets caught gets a good enough lawyer, they will never get charged with anything. However that works for pretty much any crime you can commit.... thank you OJ

shocked that Zeeboe feels bad for a pedophile

Technically, he's not a pedophile. None of the men on "To Catch a Predator" are. Pedophiles target little children. The men on "To Catch a Predator" are going after young teens, and are consider "Computer Predators".

Richer is the only one I've ever felt bad for, and not made fun of. It's because he's only 19, and I see him as a kid too. It's disturbing seeing a young kid's whole life being ruined all for being stupid, which is something a lot of kids that age are guilty of. There are plenty of hot 18 and 19-year old college girls he could have tried to date. He's a good looking kid, and it's a shame he was wasting his looks and time trying to woe who he thought was a 13-year old. That's why he gets my pity. :)

The older guys however do not. They should have known better. :y: