I bet Sheamus is hated by alot of the roster, just comes in being a friend of HHH's and gets the title, while they're still working their asses off/'paying their dues'.:roll:

Pretty much.

I hope they have witch hunts in search for WWE Champion Chief Fire crotch

I doubt it. Like Xero said, he only gets about 15 mins of air time and has yet to main event a PPV.

What bothers me isn't the fact that WWE did something "new" and had a surprise, random champion -- that is actually awesome -- but it's who they chose and more so why they chose him

Innit, but meh, there's fuck all we can do about it.

(Except annoy Juan)

we the WWE Universe are helpless
but I'm with Juan in terms of rather having Sheamus than the Huntortena(:shifty:) as champion. I was watching some old title wins like Angle and Eddie and then theres Sheamus lol

Not to sound like a bitch, but seriously imagine the grief TNA would get for putting the fucking world title on someone nowhere near established enough, and making little effort to make him appear credible.

'lol WWE'

WWE is in more of a position to do something like this though, tbf.

They're the large focus of the show, but not against eachother. Triple H is part of DX, Orton has been fueding with Kofi and now is in a legacy storyline, and Cena was chasing Sheamus' title and now is in another angle.

I find it's far more interesting when those 3 are split up to fued with other talent, and do something new that doesn't have to do with the title.
It allows for someone else holding the title, which is fresh. In this case it's Sheamus.

I agree that the way Sheamus is being booked is awful if you look at it from a kayfabe point of view. He hasn't beaten anybody. But I think they're throwing kayfabe to the wind and trying to find a way to have their cake and eat it too (push Sheamus and not have to actually job any of their main eventers)
I guess they figure they can get away with it. Among their major fanbase, I'm sure they're succeeding.
As for me, I can see where you're coming from. I complained when they did the exact same thing with Jericho, but at this stage in the game I just don't care. I'm buying it because I am looking at it for what it is and not kayfabe.

Jeritron gets it

Stop that.

Calling wrestling fans, "the wwe universe" is the stupidest thing that's ever been done in wrestling. I want to kill something every time I hear.

You need help then.;)

But yeah i hate the wwe universe thing too.

Last spring/summer, the whole Orton/Batista/HHH thing was so boring that I took a hiatus from wrestling that I'm really just coming back from.
It was honestly some of the most 'no thanks' booking I've seen in all the years I've watched wrestling.
Then in the late summer and fall it was the same shit, only with Cena/Orton and that didn't draw me back in either.

I don't mind any of those guys (except Batista maybe), when they're doing other things that are interesting and semi-fresh. It's just that when you put them together, and have main event programs that involve them and only them, it's a recipe for disaster.

I am pretty confident they have a great push for Sheamus planned at EC with a genuine victory to make him look a fitting champ. The only other option is to have him enter last with only 1-2 tired guys left and he takes care of them in a jiffy, with the WM storyline being he has to defend his title in a No DQ match or something against a "proven" ex-champ.

But ya right now the WWE Title is not being respected a lot kayfabe-wise!

The RAW champion has basically been Triple H, John Cena and Randy Orton for the last four-five years with a little bit of Edge and Jericho being the silver lining.

Yeah, if Sheamus is truly going to be in a Wrestlemania title match he needs a strong and convincing win at EC.

I see what they're trying to do with Sheamus, but I just get the feeling that there really isn't any kind of goal for him beyond keeping the title off Cena/Orton/HHH. Just putting the strap on him from where he was and not letting him do anything with it doesn't make him anything more than a paper champion. Even if he only got a three month reign at least have him pin someone during those three months.

he was cool when he first came in like every other guy, but he was pushed way too fast. it's hard for me to just accept him as a wwe champ right now.

It's still massively retarded whatever position you're in. It's a shame the WWE world titles have lost so much prestige since about 2003.

Shaemus should NOT win at EC. He doesn't even deserve to be champion, let alone defend the title at mania. Come on.

I thought that there was no chance Sheamus retained at EC but the more and more I think about it, they might as well.

Orton - will feud with Legacy, probable match at WM
Ted Dibiase - see Orton
Cena - will face Batista at WM
HHH - will feud with and maybe have a match with HBK at WM
Kofi - Wildcard, but him winning and having a Title defense at WM makes less sense than Sheamus at this point.

Sure, they could put the belt on any of them but do any of these matches need a belt up for grabs in order to be meaningful?

Out of all of them, Ted Dibiase winning makes at least some sense because then Orton is pissed, legacy explodes and..blah blah..Orton wins the belt back at WM.

If anything, the booking of Sheamus is just like Benoit when he won in 2004 after Wrestlemania. Instead of capitalizing on the special moment to start a huge push (heel or face), they do something stupid such as make their main champion seem weak or not even involved in the show. If it is true that he will headline Wrestlemania and looses the title, it won't come off as a special moment and maybe hurt the initial moment of him winning the title similar to Benoit in 2004 post-title.

Similar to Benoit and other champions not pushed, this is more of the booking team's fault than Sheamus not working as champion. Eddie Guerrero once thought he was the reason why his 1st reign on Smackdown was lackluster in ratings but Vince and the booking team made sure his character staid as strong as possible to keep his morale up.

Interesting discussion here...let me add a LITTLE something...

My eleven year old cousin was at my house for the Royal Rumble. During the Orton/Sheamus match, he asked "if Sheamus beats Randy Orton, does that mean he's the best wrestler on Raw?". The question kind of caught me off guard, so I replied "well what do you mean?". He said "well he already beat Cena, so if he beats Orton too, who on Raw could beat him?".

I guess the Sheamus push is working with the current prime demographic.

For me, I still don't exactly know how to feel about Sheamus. I don't HATE him, but something about him being the champion just irritates the shit out of me. Even if he DID start winning matches against credible opponents, it would still feel forced to me. I think they really just jumped the gun by at least two years on the guy and I feel it will hurt him in the long run. What happens to him after he eventually loses the title? Surely he's not a mainstay in the main event. He'll flounder in the midcard and eventually be forgotten about, I think.

You know who really could have used this title reign? Jack Swagger. He's already been the ECW champion. He's had competitive matches with Cena. He's been around for a lot longer than Sheamus. A little transitional reign could have done wonders for Swagger, and it would also give him some more ammo in his constant trash talk to everybody. When his reign was over, he could have gone right back to where he was, only this time with everybody thinking that he was capable of doing it again some day.

I think WWE was really thinking of doing something similar to what you said with Swagger since they started his undefeated till end of the year or Rumble/Wrestlemania. It would have built him up wonderfully to be seen as a legit contender but they pulled the plug on the push too early and gave Cena the "undefeated promise" push when he didn't need it.

I like Sheamus, but he's not being booked to well. Maybe no one wants to put him over. He needs to have some good matches and beat guys clean. Mid carders and established guys. Let's just hope he doesn't get a Rey Mysterio title reign.

Perhaps that's why he's a heel. :roll:

This. Everything about this.

I get what the WWE are trying to do with Sheamus. I actually see some sense in it. They wanted to go with a shock WWE Champion. Winning the WWE Title out of the blue would not work for anyone, and there is debate about whether or not it has worked for Sheamus. But in a kayfabe sense, Sheamus is pretty fucking dominant. He lays out pretty much everyone, and beat John Cena for the title, and defended it successfully against Randy Orton at the Royal Rumble.

Sheamus has not really had it easy. He's been thrown right into the deep end, and he seems to be doing well under the pressure. Good for him. I agree that Jack Swagger would have been perfect for this role, but they chose Sheamus. Whatever, he's doing fine in his position. I'm getting the impression the WWE actually wants us to be surprised when he wins all his matches. It's like what Striker mentioned while hyping the Sheamus/Orton match -- "The WWE Superstars are yet to figure out Sheamus."

If you believe in kayfabe -- and they are the guys the WWE aims their product at -- Sheamus winning the WWE Title probably would have been the biggest shock of the year. You'd want to see Sheamus beaten, but you don't know enough about him to know if he can be beaten. You don't care about air-time, and shit like that. Sheamus is the WWE Champion...fact. That means he's better than the rest of the RAW roster...kayfabe fact. Those are your givens. The storyline is a bunch of guys all stepping up to face Sheamus, and getting knocked down. Cena's been knocked down; Orton's been knocked down. Now Sheamus has to face John Cena, Triple H, Randy Orton, Ted DiBiase and Kofi Kingston. Fans will be aching to see Sheamus de-throned here, but I don't think it happens. I think he continues to prove the WWE Universe (sorry) wrong, and continues his reign as WWE Champion.

Triple H will probably start the match pretty early, and Sheamus will probably get a late entry. But I see Sheamus retaining the title over an exhausted Triple H relatively cleanly. This leads to Triple H wanting a WWE Title Match with Sheamus when they are both fresh. And believe it or not, I think Triple H will put over Sheamus at WrestleMania XXVI.

Who-mus?

They never book a Heel's first world title runs very strong. Look at HHH and The Rock. HHH lost his first title to Vince and The Rock was struggling to beat X-Pac.

WWE just have there own way of doing things but it can work out in the end. Plus Sheamus has got to get heat from somewhere.

Kinda like how they did with Abyss?

He's getting solid crowd reactions, he's a pretty good wrestler. It's just the IWC that are bitching about this.

sheamus sucks

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I'm still not a huge Sheamus fan, but I actually think he's doing well as champion. He was pretty much thrown into the mix randomly to be tested, and so far I think he is passing. Sure he isn't getting clean/decisive victories, but he is still getting them (and good crowd reactions as well).

And he does have a sense of mystery to him, because his challengers don't really know how he can be beaten.

I think he heads into WM as the champion. I think he will be the last person to enter and pick up a relatively quick win. Not sure who he would beat, but that person would probably get a shot at him at WM (provided Edge doesn't) because of it.

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