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#BROKEN Hasney 01-31-2011 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PorkSoda (Post 3413903)
I read Booker T was involved last night somehow. What did he do?

Came in, hit all his trademark moves on the Nexus and then got eliminated.

Autobahn 01-31-2011 08:37 AM

Never would have picked Del Rio to win given that the Royal Rumble is traditionally won by established stars. I'm interested
:y:

Testicle 01-31-2011 09:03 AM

Del Rio will probably lose his #1 contender spot to Mysterio somehow, and then we will get Mysterio vs. Edge.

Don't know why, just think its something they would do.

JimmyMess 01-31-2011 09:09 AM

Something that kind of irked me was when Chavo came in and hit the suplex move on everyone in the ring *shades of Eddie* and then stood up and did the Viva La Rasa shake *shades of Eddie* ... he barely was finishing the homage to Guerrero when he got decked... I mean I get it, I just thought it was a nice touch but if they had only let him do it for a second or two more it would have been much more memorable.... I don't know maybe I'm just being sappy...

bostonbill41 01-31-2011 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3413887)
Is there any doubt now that people are going to bitch and moan no matter what happens? For YEARS the IWC has been complaining about the established stars winning Rumble after Rumble after Rumble. For YEARS the IWC has been complaining about WWE not building new stars.

So what does WWE do? They use the Rumble to catapult a new guy into superstardom. And what does the IWC do? They bitch and moan about it.

I really don't understand why 75% of you even watch wrestling when you clearly don't enjoy it.

Who the fuck are you to tell peole what they enjoy and dont enjoy?
The guy is lame and so is his shtick.

Rammsteinmad 01-31-2011 09:15 AM

I really liked the pop Chavo got. I thought it was a really nice moment.

Also, I too was marking out thinking Santino could win it. Of course as someone said above, once he started celebrating I knew it wasn't going to happen, but towards the end of the match I was kinda gutted that Santino had 'disappeared' and was wondering why everyone had forgotten about him.

Rammsteinmad 01-31-2011 09:17 AM

And in my opinion, Del Rio SHOULD MAIN EVENT Wrestlemania because he won the Royal Rumble, but I know that's not really the case anymore, and I'm fairly certain Del Rio won't be in the rinal match of the night.

Cool King 01-31-2011 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3413933)
I really liked the pop Chavo got. I thought it was a really nice moment.

Yeah, me too.

I get the feeling that because of the pop he got, he might be given a face turn, which I think would be good.

Nark Order 01-31-2011 09:39 AM

Cannot even believe people are complaining about this rumble. Jesus fucking hell.

Nark Order 01-31-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3413887)
Is there any doubt now that people are going to bitch and moan no matter what happens? For YEARS the IWC has been complaining about the established stars winning Rumble after Rumble after Rumble. For YEARS the IWC has been complaining about WWE not building new stars.

So what does WWE do? They use the Rumble to catapult a new guy into superstardom. And what does the IWC do? They bitch and moan about it.

I really don't understand why 75% of you even watch wrestling when you clearly don't enjoy it.


SaskatchewanChamp 01-31-2011 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3413887)
Is there any doubt now that people are going to bitch and moan no matter what happens? For YEARS the IWC has been complaining about the established stars winning Rumble after Rumble after Rumble. For YEARS the IWC has been complaining about WWE not building new stars.

So what does WWE do? They use the Rumble to catapult a new guy into superstardom. And what does the IWC do? They bitch and moan about it.

I really don't understand why 75% of you even watch wrestling when you clearly don't enjoy it.

Shut up you bitter cunt.

MIZantine Empire 01-31-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by D Mac (Post 3413885)
By the way. This is kinda weird but the look on Santinos face as he was setting up the cobra made me mark the fuck out. Like he was going to really win the thing.

yea i know what you are saying..like he was over come with emotion knowing he was one person away from the biggest win in his career. its good to see some real emotion sometimes ya know?

MIZantine Empire 01-31-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3413904)
Came in, hit all his trademark moves on the Nexus and then got eliminated.

minus the houston hangover, or whatever he called his top rop move

#BROKEN Hasney 01-31-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MIZantine Empire (Post 3413996)
minus the houston hangover, or whatever he called his top rop move

Well yeah, but he only ever busted that out once in WWE.

GD 01-31-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3413935)
And in my opinion, Del Rio SHOULD MAIN EVENT Wrestlemania because he won the Royal Rumble, but I know that's not really the case anymore, and I'm fairly certain Del Rio won't be in the rinal match of the night.

I really hope that he gets the last match on the card.

Rammsteinmad 01-31-2011 10:58 AM

I doubt he will, unless he moves to Raw and feuds with John Cena.

Personally I REALLY enjoyed this Rumble. Probably my favourite to be honest. Lots of really memorable and cool moments that we've never seen before. Pretty much every wrestler involved was over as fuck. Booker T got an awesome pop. Chavo got a well deserved pop (which I don't think I've ever heard). The ending with Santino was fantastic, really had me believing for a brief second there! Even Hornswoggle actually entertained me here, he was pretty funny and I lol'd at his Attitude Adjustment. The whole Nexus/Corre angle was great. John Morrisons Parkour spot was incredible. Bryan/Punk starting off and Bryan getting some huge chants ('Let's go Bryan, Let's go Punk'). Seriously, this Rumble from top to bottom was amazing. However, only two complaints:

1. As usual, Cena and psychology is fucked up. Cena comes in, eliminates all the Nexus, then he goes down in that double clothesline with CM Punk, and he was acting as though he'd been in the match since the start. I'm like 'Come on Cena you're a fresh man and you've taken one clothesline!!!'. But no, he sold that fucker like it was a Tombstone Piledriver.

2. Del Rio winning. It's great that a rookie won it and someone who is really over, but I dunno, kinda gutted Christian didn't return and win it. And Del Rio isn't quite what I'd consider Wrestlemania Main Event material just yet, which is why I'm certain he won't be in THE main event (the final match of the night). But none-the-less the way he won it was great and still had me marking out that Alberto Del Rio actually won the Rumble match.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-31-2011 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3414021)
1. As usual, Cena and psychology is fucked up. Cena comes in, eliminates all the Nexus, then he goes down in that double clothesline with CM Punk, and he was acting as though he'd been in the match since the start. I'm like 'Come on Cena you're a fresh man and you've taken one clothesline!!!'. But no, he sold that fucker like it was a Tombstone Piledriver.

I liked it. He had pure adrenaline and gassed himself eliminating Nexus then had the wind knocked out of him. Was good to me.

Rammsteinmad 01-31-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3414023)
I liked it. He had pure adrenaline and gassed himself eliminating Nexus then had the wind knocked out of him. Was good to me.

Oh yeah absolutely, I was trying to see it from this angle, but it just wasn't happening. Superman shouldn't get gassed after hitting a couple of moves.

Evil Vito 01-31-2011 11:21 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Nights like last night are why I continue to watch. I don't fault WWE for pushing Cena and Orton through the roof. They are over as fuck, especially with their core audience. However, it does nothing for me personally, especially Cena's constant Superman pushes. It's a shame because despite what the IWC says, Cena is a good worker and can cut one of the best empassioned promos in the business. It's easy to forget that since he'll then turn into a kid-friendly comedian in the blink of an eye.

Anyway, as the match was winding down I didn't think there was a chance in hell that Cena or Orton weren't winning. Then they pull the shocker and had Del Rio win, and I marked out big time. That is why I continue to watch, because I know that despite it being predictable a decent amount of the time, they are still fully capable of surprising everybody.

The ending was still amazing the second time. If that wasn't enough to suspend your disbelief for at least a couple of seconds that Santino could actually win it, I don't know what to tell you.</font>

Innovator 01-31-2011 11:21 AM

Inno liked the show.

-Ziggler looked like he could hang with Edge, he should be champ on SD by year's end.

-If they're going with Orton vs. Punk, I hope they bring up Orton costing Punk his first title.

-Layla is hot.

-Punk/Bryan/Regal was awesome.

-Punk is awesome.

-Cena/Hornswoggle wasn't awesome.

-Chris Masters got the same reaction that Cena/Orton staredown got.

-I'm happy Del Rio won, doesn't hurt to go with the obvious pick when it's the right call.

Dark-Slicer Diago 01-31-2011 11:28 AM

Just incase nobody else posted it, here's a torrent from Demonoid Royal Rumble 2011

Rammsteinmad 01-31-2011 11:31 AM

Also I don't think I've ever witnessed a Rumble countdown where the audience actually count in time with the clock.

Rammsteinmad 01-31-2011 11:31 AM

It's also on dailymotion. ;)

Savio 01-31-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3413887)
Is there any doubt now that people are going to bitch and moan no matter what happens? For YEARS the IWC has been complaining about the established stars winning Rumble after Rumble after Rumble. For YEARS the IWC has been complaining about WWE not building new stars.

So what does WWE do? They use the Rumble to catapult a new guy into superstardom. And what does the IWC do? They bitch and moan about it.

I really don't understand why 75% of you even watch wrestling when you clearly don't enjoy it.

I liked the rumble, It dragged in the middle a bit but besides that it was alright.

bigslimjj 01-31-2011 11:53 AM

That was a pretty good rumble. Morrison had the spot of the night. Del Rio winning was awesome,but not as awesome as Santino winningcould have been. For decades they have said "Anyone can win the Royal Rumble". They had a legit chance at a great,CLASSIC moment that they turned into a Russo finish.
This match was too long. Yes it was good. But the ppv felt like it was "Only" the Rumble match. The royal rumble has always been more then that. Having the two losers of the championship matches in the rumble,with no explanation, is stupid and lazy. It also takes away any reason to have the title matches in the first place.
Why exhaust yourself in a match when your 39 in the rumble as Randy was. Did he know he had that late number of a number? They didn't explain it. Why did Nexus attack Orton? Are they fighting with him now? Reminds me of Nexus attacking Undertaker at Buried alive. It makes no sense. Good rumble,not the best ever written. I'll still take 1998 as my favorite. But Del Rio winning is excellent. They got that part right.

MIZantine Empire 01-31-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3414001)
Well yeah, but he only ever busted that out once in WWE.

that being said, its still an awesome move, lol

Supreme Olajuwon 01-31-2011 12:20 PM

The reaction to the Santino thing is a microcosm of what bugs me about the IWC. They try to act like they're judging to product as an unbiased critic who knows what's best for the business. But in reality, they're judging it as a fan just like everybody else.

Something unexpected and really exciting happens and makes every fan cheer, even the cynics on the internet. But instead of taking the exciting moment all the way to the finish, they swerve it and dash everybody's hopes. The fans react by getting mad at the heel for ruining what could've been an incredible moment. The IWC reacts by getting mad at the writers and claiming it was poor booking. It wasn't poor booking. The whole point was to get your hopes up and then destroy them. It was fantastic booking that pulled at the emotions of even the most jaded fan who thinks he knows more than the marks. But he doesn't. And he got swerved.

Gerard 01-31-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3413827)
I marked more for Nash's entrance than anything else he did.

Well its not like you had much to choose from, he did a big boot, a couple of knees, fucked up the snake eyes and then got tossed out. :lol:

Loose Cannon 01-31-2011 12:28 PM

yea, great PPV. That fucking Morrison spot was out of this world. They finally did the spot I've been wanting to see forever with Santino. Like most of you I thought, omg, he's going to win it. Because they could of easily done an angle where Del Rio gets his Title shot back, but yea, as soon as he started celebrating, I was like fuckkkkk.

I hope they redo that spot some time down the line, but it's a heel and he wins that way.

Nash got tremendous pops. they will prob give him a one year deal.

Punk and Bryan had the best showings before they got eliminated from what i remember.

Only part I really didn't like was the whole Hornswoggle thing cause I hate the guy

surprised Kane got eliminated fairly quick.

Miz dumping Cena was great

Solid show overall.

bigslimjj 01-31-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3414070)
The reaction to the Santino thing is a microcosm of what bugs me about the IWC. They try to act like they're judging to product as an unbiased critic who knows what's best for the business. But in reality, they're judging it as a fan just like everybody else.

Something unexpected and really exciting happens and makes every fan cheer, even the cynics on the internet. But instead of taking the exciting moment all the way to the finish, they swerve it and dash everybody's hopes. The fans react by getting mad at the heel for ruining what could've been an incredible moment. The IWC reacts by getting mad at the writers and claiming it was poor booking. It wasn't poor booking. The whole point was to get your hopes up and then destroy them. It was fantastic booking that pulled at the emotions of even the most jaded fan who thinks he knows more than the marks. But he doesn't. And he got swerved.

Yes they did a swerve but the question is, should they have? They could have written Santino out of the WM main event easily. They have preached about the randomness of the match since it started but no underdog has ever won it,and who more perfect to let win then Santino. I'm just saying I would have went the other way. I also think doing the swerve took away from Del Rio's win. It hurt it more then help it and really wasn't needed. I liked the match overall. But it was put together oddly in spots.

Supreme Olajuwon 01-31-2011 12:59 PM

How did it hurt Del Rio's win? Explain that to me.

Jordan 01-31-2011 01:36 PM

I am about to watch this again, truly one of the best PPV's WWE has had in over a decade. Since Wrestlemania 17 I think.

Edge/Ziggler was like watching a classic match with Bret Hart and Mr. Perfect. Excellently executed in every possible way. Even with the interference at the end, perfect.

Miz/Orton was slower, but a perfect brawl that put both guys on my top five in WWE list, as far as in ring work goes. Orton has some of the best punches in history.

Womens match was excellent, one of the best I have seen.

After the Rumble, I was so excited I watched the 92 Rumble match, and I am sure that was great at the time but I gotta put last nights above it. Perfect Rumble, the only questionable moment is Santino's bit at the end, but it didn't ruin it for me. I kinda just wish he would have won. That would have probably made Wrestlemania one of the most excited shows ever. Del Rio is more than suitable for the job, I just hope they find the right opponent for him at Wrestlemania.

Edge is a great choice as far as the quality of match goes. I am sure they would put on a classic, so I am all for that option. However, they could probably find a "bigger" match than Edge. Maybe Undertaker could return at Elimination Chamber and win the title and go against Del Rio, or even Triple H perhaps.

Jordan 01-31-2011 01:37 PM

By the way Punk is the most lovable heel I have ever seen.

Rammsteinmad 01-31-2011 01:51 PM

I really want to watch the entire Rumble match again, but damn it for being so long! Maybe tomorrow.

Rammsteinmad 01-31-2011 01:56 PM

Dunno if this was mentioned before and I'm not reading through this entire thread, but whatever... when Natalya applied that double Sharpshooter and the announcers are all 'we've never seen this before!' and 'this is history in the making!'.

She did it at the last PPV. :shifty:

And Lawler saying something to Cole about how he 'does his research' etc, yet supposedly they both have legit heat against Striker because he always does research and they find it annoying or something.

Jordan 01-31-2011 02:09 PM

Yeah I find the announcers heat really annoying. Stop trying to get yourself over and do your fucking job.

Savio 01-31-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3414070)
The reaction to the Santino thing is a microcosm of what bugs me about the IWC. They try to act like they're judging to product as an unbiased critic who knows what's best for the business. But in reality, they're judging it as a fan just like everybody else.

Same people who are saying Santino should have eliminated Del Rio would bitch about Santino winning becaus ehe is not Main Event material.

Xero 01-31-2011 02:54 PM

I hated the Santino bit because Santino is such a fucking joke. Was it bad? No, because Santino is actually over and it didn't hurt Del Rio. It DID hurt Del Rio to sell the Cobra, because it's such a ridiculously weak move from what is essentially a glorified jobber. When he did come back into the ring (and I had remembered he was still in minutes beforehand) I thought "oh shit, WWE isn't this stupid". I bought that they may give him the win. But not in a Lawler "oh shit he may win the title" way but in a "oh shit, WWE is making a huge fucking mistake" way.

Honestly, I was hoping for the self-elimination, and I actually thought it was going to happen, had Cena or Orton been the last one in the ring. That I wouldn't have had a problem with. In fact, I would have enjoyed it.

Unless they have plans for Santino to turn into a more serious character, I could have gone without seeing it. But I do get why they did it and in the end no one will remember it.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-31-2011 02:56 PM

I'm hoping on Raw they make us remember and do something with it. Would love a Santino push to the upper mid-card, kinda do what they did with Kaientai where they had that title match where HHH was likely to squash but something happens (APA in that case) to even the odds.

Still unsure if it's my fave Rumble of all time, but that is my fave Rumble moment of all time. Actually jumped out of seat when he hit it :'(

Lock Jaw 01-31-2011 02:57 PM

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