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Supreme Olajuwon 01-09-2013 06:29 PM

if they wanna look fly they will

screech 01-09-2013 08:08 PM

you know that's right

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-09-2013 08:32 PM

Pretty pathetic nobody got in this year. They need to expand the people who can vote. They should include more members of the media other than just nerdy baseball writers.

Keith 01-09-2013 08:50 PM

I would just have HOF members vote. They know what it takes to do Spring Training, play 162 games (or 154), play the LDS, LCS, and World Series. They know what it takes to have a HOF career.

I don't want fucking Howard Bryant turning in an empty ballot as he did this time around. That's a joke.

Droford 01-09-2013 09:13 PM

I do not like the rumored 3 team trade where the orioles get some scrubs from the cubs, the tigers get jj hardy and the cubs get porcello

Emperor Smeat 01-09-2013 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 4080527)
I would just have HOF members vote. They know what it takes to do Spring Training, play 162 games (or 154), play the LDS, LCS, and World Series. They know what it takes to have a HOF career.

I don't want fucking Howard Bryant turning in an empty ballot as he did this time around. That's a joke.

Think they already do that with the Veterans Committee and end up just like the writers when it comes to be stringent towards new members.

Then again I think they are worse overall unless its a specialty year the MLB promotes (ex. Negro Leagues year, etc).

ClockShot 01-09-2013 10:44 PM

Kosuke Fukudome goes home to Japan. Signed with the Hanshin Tigers for 3-years, $5.5 mil.

Can't remember the last time so many players picked up sticks and went to play for Japan. Alot of Japanese born players are going back and and good chunk of MLB talent is going over as well this offseason.

The Condor 01-09-2013 11:59 PM

Good, Andruw Jones is not welcome here.

The Condor 01-10-2013 12:04 AM

As for the HOF voting today, I have to say I knew something like this would happen and I don't begrudge voters for punishing these guys for a year or two, because eventually most will probably get in. Peeved at how they treated Biggio, Bagwell, Piazza and Edgar but it is what it is. As for Morris, Murphy, Schilling and Mattingly--- they are just not good enough. I was against Santo and Jim Rice going in because I feel you have to draw a line where there are best players NOT in the HOF, and the velvet line starts with guys like that. The exclusivity of MLB's HOF is what makes it more special than the others. No-name guys and filler go into the NFL's because they have to have 7-8 guys every year and it diludes the accomplishment. The MLB might be strict, but I would rather that than include guys like Chris Hanburger, Charlie Wehrly and Charlie Sanders like the NFL has done. Anyway, Clemens, Bonds will get in eventually as will the other guys I mentioned (and hopefully Larry Walker) but it is what it is and I'm not going to cry about it, even Bernie Williams not making the 5%.

weather vane 01-10-2013 01:08 AM

So dumb that some of these guys aren't getting in. Ridiculous.

Keith 01-10-2013 01:13 AM

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-s...-got-hall-call

According to Curt Schilling, he believes that voters didn't elect anybody this year because they wanted to punish those who are believed to have used PED's as well as those that didn't, but didn't do anything to point out that PED use was going on.

I don't like it. These voters aren't supposed to send any messages. Their job is to elect those players whose numbers warrant being in the HOF. That simple. Any voter that wants to send a message can go write a blog.

You want to know how "seriously" these writers take voting people into the HOF?

SPOILER: show
Aaron Sele and Steve Finley got HOF votes.

Droford 01-10-2013 01:19 AM

Pete rose will get in before any of these guys just because he's probably gonna die first

Supreme Olajuwon 01-10-2013 02:08 AM

Pete Rose is the best

screech 01-10-2013 03:38 AM

Free Pete Rose!

Keith 01-10-2013 03:41 AM

If Pete Rose was ever reinstated, I'm sure these writers wouldn't vote for him the first time he appears on the ballot.

You know, just to send "a message".

Bad News Gertner 01-10-2013 04:54 AM

Jack Morris should be in. One of the best if not the best big game pitchers of his era.

Damian Rey 01-10-2013 06:54 AM

3.9 career era, 5k/9 career. Morris doesn't belong anywhere near the Hall. Schilling on the other hand, deserves the nod. As did Piazza and Biggio.

I hate the way things go down, making people wait,but until a newer, more modern writers get in, I think the current trend of guys waiting despite being worthy will continue.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-10-2013 07:40 AM

If Pedro doesn't get in on the first ballot in 2015 I'm going to fucking riot.

Morris:
254-186
Three World Championships
World Series MVP.
5-Time All Star (before it became a fan-infected popularity contest)
21-win season in his 16th year in the league.

Deserves it.

Damian Rey 01-10-2013 08:46 AM

No he does not. Career numbers are decent, at best. Schilling blows him away in postseason stats. Morris was a good pitcher on great teams. But he's not one of the best ever. The only arguments people can make for him are cherry picked stats (see above post) and made up characteristics, aka intangibles.

YOUR Hero 01-10-2013 10:57 AM

BIGGIO DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE LINKED TO THESE GUYS FOR YEARS TO COME AS A FOOTNOTE OF "WHO GOT IN WHEN THE OTHERS.....[\]"

FOR THAT REASON I'M HAPPY HE DIDN'T GET IN THIS YEAR.

ClockShot 01-10-2013 11:02 AM

MLB has decided to eliminate land line bullpen phones and have partnered with T-Mobile to make a wireless network in all the stadiums.

http://riveraveblues.com/wp-content/...pen-phones.jpg


The "dock".

http://riveraveblues.com/wp-content/...phone-dock.jpg



So how long before a manager or bench coach loses the bullpen phone?

Innovator 01-10-2013 11:05 AM

I give it two weeks before players hide the phones from the managers as a prank

Skippord 01-10-2013 11:11 AM

I was really hoping the manager would just have the phone in his pocket

The Condor 01-10-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4081027)
No he does not. Career numbers are decent, at best. Schilling blows him away in postseason stats. Morris was a good pitcher on great teams. But he's not one of the best ever. The only arguments people can make for him are cherry picked stats (see above post) and made up characteristics, aka intangibles.

Jim Kaat has 30 more wins and something like 14 Gold Gloves as a pitcher. If he is not in, and he is off the ballot now, Jack Morris certainly doesn't get in. Have to draw the line somehwere and pity for Morris he is on the outside.

Hanso Amore 01-10-2013 11:43 AM

Im "OK" with keeping know offenders out, Im OK with them going in.

But the way in which Baseball writers conduct their voting every year is a fucking joke.

Their job is to select the best players to be enshrined in the Hall of fame. They act like Guardians of the Hall of Fame, keeping certain guys out, putting others that might not need to go in.

The Hall of Fame is a place to remember the history of baseball. Its a place for the history of the game to be documented and the players involved remembered. They act like its a non stop party celebrating the best players and they need to "protect the hall" and baseball integrity. NO. They were chosen as the means to populate the hall with the greats of all time.

Love them or hate them, Bonds and Clemens and Sosa and Big Mac are all huge parts of the game and need to be placed into the hall at some point as part of the history of the game.

I heard a great guy talking on the radio exactly about this and how the Hall is a Museum of Baseball and they need to cut the shit with heir Moral High Horses. If they want to go about this as they are, time to take out all the players from segregated leagues. Throw that drunk racist Ty Cobb on the street.

I hate Baseball writers and hate what they have turned the hall of fame into.

Droford 01-10-2013 11:48 AM

I wonder how silly they feel installing those bullpen phones in stadiums where the bullpen is done the foul line from the dugout and they never used a phone to start with..

Hanso Amore 01-10-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4081123)
I wonder how silly they feel installing those bullpen phones in stadiums where the bullpen is done the foul line from the dugout and they never used a phone to start with..

Probably not all that silly. MLB just cares about T mobile paying them cash for advertising, and To Mobile is happy to have its product on the field.

Neither give a shit about practicality or even if it works, and that wasnt even part of their motivation.

Emperor Smeat 01-10-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4081094)

http://riveraveblues.com/wp-content/...phone-dock.jpg



So how long before a manager or bench coach loses the bullpen phone?

Seeing as there are 4 phones, MLB probably already knows one is getting lost on Opening Day.

If those phones can make calls outside of the stadium its probably only a matter of time until the cameras catch a pizza or Chinese delivery guy in the dugout during a game.

RoXer 01-10-2013 03:56 PM

I'm assuming they're leaving the landlines in, just in case?

RoXer 01-10-2013 03:57 PM

Just in case an EMP blast from the Koreans blows out all electronics which is something Droford probably believes will happen

RoXer 01-10-2013 04:00 PM

Yo, Spring Training tickets for the stupid Giants went on sale today at 11 and my sister and her kids are coming down to see some games.

So we're at our computers waiting to buy them, also gunna call the office too.

Fucking A's/Giants sold out at 11:07. Seven minutes. And at like 2.5 times the normal value too.

Which means they're going to be resold at like 4 times that. Unreal. I'm not paying $50 for a spring training ticket. I'm sure as shit not going pay 4 times that from someones else. I can't even do the math when it comes to numbers that high. Need my calcumalator.

RoXer 01-10-2013 04:00 PM

two thousand dollars??!?!?!?!

Keith 01-10-2013 04:12 PM

Shit just got real.


http://i45.tinypic.com/2ecf320.png

Frank Drebin 01-11-2013 12:24 AM

That phone dock looks like it should sell tampons and Spanish fly.

Can't wait to see a guy like Charlie Manuel try to use that for the first time.

Frank Drebin 01-11-2013 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 4081412)

Pretty sweet. Still waiting on instant replay.

Frank Drebin 01-11-2013 12:32 AM

Also, a couple of years ago the Cubs put a nice new Gatorade machine in the dougout. It lasted about 6 weeks before someone (dempster?) took a bat to it. Should do a straw pull on when the first phone bank gets destroyed.

The Condor 01-11-2013 12:45 AM

I think Big Z was the one swinging at the gatorade machine

Keith 01-11-2013 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 4081796)
That phone dock looks like it should sell tampons and Spanish fly.

Can't wait to see a guy like Charlie Manuel try to use that for the first time.

LOL or Jim Leyland.

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