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drave 04-01-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5331425)
The longer this goes - I will start to wonder if WWE will be able to bounce back from all of this a bit - viewers, attendance, ppv pricing. It just seems like a recipe for disaster where the fanbase could shrink significantly.

And WWE being the biggest game in rasslin' town means that not's good for everyone else too.


Eh, maybe if they had changed things up for the past 15-20ish years.... maybe. But good lord if this whole event hasn't exposed them for the stale, SSDD crap they've been churning out, they wouldn't be hurting AS bad.


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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5331426)
They definitely should have ran classic footage. Got no clue why they are doing what they are doing, or why anyone is to be honest. It's all garbage and it's all going to hurt them.




They're doing what they are because VKM said so, damnit

slik 04-02-2020 01:32 AM

On Meltzer's board it was mentioned Backstage had 35k viewers this week but it was not enough to be listed in the top 150 programs for the day.

Emperor Smeat 04-02-2020 02:58 AM

Whoever posted that there must have gotten some faulty info since Backstage ranked this week at #142 and did 134k viewers with a 0.04 in the key demo.

First time since mid-February it managed to rank.

slik 04-02-2020 04:42 PM

Rough week for AEW and NXT


AEW - 685k (#37)
NXT - 590k (#74)


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ClockShot 04-02-2020 06:48 PM

News, news, news, news, news, MTV show, news, news, news, news, my 600 lb. life, news, news, news, news, news, AEW.

Eh. They still had a good week.

Emperor Smeat 04-02-2020 06:54 PM

Probably a mix of people not liking last week's empty arena show from AEW and assuming the same was going to happen this week and that MTV show taking away a good chunk of the young viewers for both shows.

Neither WWE nor AEW taking advantage of a lot more people being stuck at home during these past few weeks is a bit of a worrying sign. News shows doing monster numbers makes sense considering the situation but wrestling should have also been able to capitalize greatly with no sports around for the time being.

Mr. Nerfect 04-02-2020 10:17 PM

Someone bet me that AEW would get over a million viewers during this quarantine.

Mr. Nerfect 04-02-2020 10:17 PM

I also take joy in bad wrestling tanking. You reap what you sow.

BigCrippyZ 04-03-2020 01:26 AM

Still waiting for WWE, Vince, and/or HHH to execute the plans to really crush AEW that I've been hearing about for the last couple of months now.

slik 04-03-2020 03:41 AM

AEW rebounds

https://www.pwtorch.com/site/2020/04...cable-ranking/


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On the bright side, while AEW’s live and same-night-DVR viewership is down, the viewers are showing up within three days. The average viewership after three days of delayed viewing in March was 1.06 million, in line with February’s average of 1.08 and only 107,000 down from January’s average of 1.13 million. After seven days, AEW viewership in March’s first three weeks averaged 1.09 million, not far off February’s 1.16 million and January’s 1.17 million. Last night’s same-night viewership, though, is down sharply from the prior weeks, so it’s unlikely the seven-day numbers will hold up as well.

NXT’s three-day viewership in March was 782,000, down from 883,000 in March and 857,000 in January. NXT’s seven-day viewership was 789,000 the first three weeks of March, down from 927,000 in February and 877,000 in January.

slik 04-03-2020 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5332221)
I also take joy in bad wrestling tanking. You reap what you sow.

Even though it seems mean-spirited to take joy in RAW and SD dropping viewers each week for putting out a terrible product, I too applaud fans for rejecting bad wrestling and tuning out of WWE.

#1-norm-fan 04-03-2020 09:52 AM

Is WWE still using their main roster to try to boost NXT?

slik 04-03-2020 02:11 PM

Charlotte is feuding for the NXT title at Mania - so sort of

slik 04-04-2020 12:40 PM

SD - 2.38 million average


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Mr. Nerfect 04-04-2020 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5332269)
Even though it seems mean-spirited to take joy in RAW and SD dropping viewers each week for putting out a terrible product, I too applaud fans for rejecting bad wrestling and tuning out of WWE.

All of it. WWE and AEW are both copping it.

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5332342)
Is WWE still using their main roster to try to boost NXT?

Nah, AEW isn’t a threat so they basically stopped trying. :lol:

Triple A 04-07-2020 03:54 PM

The 2018 Raw after WrestleMania drew 3,921,000 viewers... Feeling like this year might be barely above 2 million...

drave 04-07-2020 03:55 PM

*wet fart noises*

slik 04-07-2020 05:23 PM

Live TV Ratings for RAW post WrestleMania -


Hr 1- 2.31
Hr 2- 2.06
Hr 3 - 1.93

Avg - 2.10 million
(credit - wrestlingobserver)

Bad News Gertner 04-07-2020 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5332267)

Lol you can't count DVR. Let's face it. AEW is a sinking ship. Impact will probably buy them out by the end of 2020.

Emperor Smeat 04-07-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5334510)
Live TV Ratings for RAW post WrestleMania -


Hr 1- 2.31
Hr 2- 2.06
Hr 3 - 1.93

Avg - 2.10 million
(credit - wrestlingobserver)

That's one of those good/bad type situations.

The good being RAW managed to rebound from last week's all-time low and got a good boost in the key demo rating while the bad being that was one of the smallest ever post-Mania PPV bumps.

For some comparison, last year's post-Mania show had 824k more viewers overall.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2020 07:48 PM

AEW fucking sucks. Can't wait for the excuses when the rating comes back even lower than last week. "No one is watching because of the news!" "It's WrestleMania week, dummy!" Yeah, like that wouldn't increase the foot traffic for all wrestling promotions. That's why no one usually runs indies at WrestleMania time.

Triple A 04-09-2020 04:30 PM

NXT wins for the first time in 2020

NXT: 693K
AEW: 692K

slik 04-09-2020 04:35 PM

Nice!


If there was ever a week NXT should've won it was definitely this one w/ The Takeover card.

slik 04-09-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5334925)
Can't wait for the excuses when the rating comes back even lower than last week.

lol the rating and demos were up from last week :rofl:


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Bad News Gertner 04-09-2020 05:11 PM

Hahaha R.I.P Impact 2.0

Emperor Smeat 04-09-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5335220)
Nice!


If there was ever a week NXT should've won it was definitely this one w/ The Takeover card.

Yeah, makes sense if they were going to break AEW's streak, it would have been this week. Had the two biggest matches that would have been on TakeOver and going with a cinematic feel to the Gargano-Ciampa match likely helped a lot as well.

Since NXT just missed out on the Top 50, I'd assume they probably got a very sizable boost from their old demo since for a while AEW managed to either erase it or minimize that big advantage.

Mr. Nerfect 04-09-2020 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5335221)

So it wasn’t the news? Funny that.

Emperor Smeat 04-09-2020 06:50 PM

News still dominated the Top 20 shows by a lot. Both in terms of viewers and in demo rankings.

AEW was off by 0.03 points for a Top 20 ranking but in terms of viewers, only 2 shows in the Top 20 did less than 1 million and neither were news shows.

Emperor Smeat 04-10-2020 11:50 PM

Apparently Meltzer managed to dig more into NXT's razor thin victory this week and it turns out NXT won due to favorable rounding by Nielsen.

NXT had 692,900 which got rounded up to 693k while AEW had 692,500 but didn't get rounded up so they only got 692k.

Was speculated elsewhere that the difference likely was a single Nielsen viewer who swung the numbers in NXT favor.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taken another digit in, NXT was 692,900 and AEW was 692,500, so difference of 400 viewers. Very interesting quarters. I'll say this. Definitely not what you would expect.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1248721231773192193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Last time the numbers were that close was when they tied once time in December. Wouldn't be surprised if favorable rounding also happened back then.

slik 04-11-2020 01:01 AM

Seems peculiar Meltzer felt the need to point this out tbh

Emperor Smeat 04-11-2020 01:16 AM

Usually stuff like that gets revealed in the following Newsletter but something like this has only happened one other time soo far so I guess he felt extra giddy revealing it early.

Based on his tease, wouldn't be surprised at all if the squash match involving the Indus Sher tag team beat out one or more quarters from the very hyped up final encounter between Gargano and Ciampa. Same for Omega's tag match probably not being a ratings disaster despite the general negative reception to it online.

Like last week's set of shows ended up revealing that America doesn't like Dumb & Dumber since it did an abysmal number as a lead-in and NXT might have had their least ever viewed segment in USA Network era history.

Emperor Smeat 04-11-2020 01:46 AM

Turns out the decider was the first ten minutes of both shows since NXT had a better lead-in and stronger start than AEW did.

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Originally Posted by Observer
The actual difference was in the first ten minutes of the show where the much larger rated USA Network gave NXT ten much bigger minutes before it fell into a more normal range starting around minute 11.


slik 04-11-2020 11:46 AM

SD drops a little post Mania from last week's 2.38 million to 2.31 million this week

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Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2020 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5335638)
Apparently Meltzer managed to dig more into NXT's razor thin victory this week and it turns out NXT won due to favorable rounding by Nielsen.

NXT had 692,900 which got rounded up to 693k while AEW had 692,500 but didn't get rounded up so they only got 692k.

Was speculated elsewhere that the difference likely was a single Nielsen viewer who swung the numbers in NXT favor.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taken another digit in, NXT was 692,900 and AEW was 692,500, so difference of 400 viewers. Very interesting quarters. I'll say this. Definitely not what you would expect.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1248721231773192193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Last time the numbers were that close was when they tied once time in December. Wouldn't be surprised if favorable rounding also happened back then.

:lol:

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5335647)
Seems peculiar Meltzer felt the need to point this out tbh

He's biased as fuck and it's made him unbearable. He's constantly sacrificing whatever credibility he had to spin things to make AEW look better.

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5335724)
SD drops a little post Mania from last week's 2.38 million to 2.31 million this week

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But shouldn't the news have crippled them?

Emperor Smeat 04-12-2020 06:26 PM

Its a bit different with network channels.

Networks can withstand the on-going news shows onslaught better due to having a larger audience reach and only FOX airs news during prime time hours but its not tracked since its local news.

If this was regular cable, Smackdown would have taken the #2 & #3 spots going by the previous Friday's cable rankings if you ignore the other networks.

slik 04-13-2020 01:56 PM

If SD aired Friday Nights on the USA Network it would have less viewers than RAW.

Mr. Nerfect 04-13-2020 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5336388)
If SD aired Friday Nights on the USA Network it would have less viewers than RAW.

If Raw aired Monday nights on FOX, it would have more viewers than SmackDown.

Emperor Smeat 04-13-2020 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5336388)
If SD aired Friday Nights on the USA Network it would have less viewers than RAW.

Yeah that's very possible because of USA Network having a smaller national reach and Fridays generally being the least viewed day of the week.

When Smackdown moved to Tuesdays on the USA Network it managed to get the double boost of being live and being on a better day for cable prime time shows.

slik 04-14-2020 04:34 PM

1.91 million average


This might be the first time all three hours are under 2 million, but I don't know for sure.
Last week was 2.10 million. (credit - showbuzzdaily)


Most Watched on YT:
Drew vs Andrade - 1 million
Seth attacks Drew - 657k
Nia Jax vs Kairi - 317k

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Bad News Gertner 04-14-2020 04:43 PM

Raw triples AEW viewership! Wow, The Revival better not join that sinking ship


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