Fire Cody, lose 25% of your audience immediately.

869,000 is an awesome number.

:lol:

LMAO is all I gotta say. Suck my dick Damien Ray

This is why you don’t hype a huge announcement and then deliver an unknown and an out of shape mid-carder.

Can't wait to see these AEW fan bitches defend this when they are out of huge main event matches and their biggest star just left. LMAO AEW is dead in the water bitches suck the fuck on it. Even the Big Bang Bad theory fans are turning out earlier now.

They were never going to stick around long. You had a couple of weeks to win them.

Exactly. TBS is a huge demotion like we said since the beginning.

Hire 20x WWE wrestlers and have no storyline but we are wrasslin l fucking love it. This is your ROHBots dreams... Why ain't it working? You stupid fucks.

I’d argue that ROH had better wrestling and better storylines. I’d make the case for TNA in retrospect too.

When it comes to their ratings, they are All Retreat Wrestling :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Filling your roster with poor wrestlers from NXT results in the ratings matching that of NXT. Shocking

They have 21 people on their roster who came from NXT, (was 22 until Lio Rush tried to speak up against racism), including 10 people who were never even called up to a main roster in WWE. They have 4 former NXT Champions currently, and have been rumored to be looking at a few more like Joe and Gargano. WWE renamed it NXT 2.0, but AEW could probably make a legal argument that they are the real NXT 2.0.

Imagine thinking Cody Rhodes a bigger star than Punk and Danielson Lmaooo. Next thing you’ll tell me is ham salad sandwiches is a great dietary approach.

I agree with all of this except for the Lio Rush part. Lio Rush got fired because he's retarded, not because he "spoke out against racism"

Cody Rhodes is a bigger star than CM Punk. Punk is also not on Danielson's level either.

They lost about 250k in a week. :lol:

SmackDown: 2,173,000

Rampage: 471,000

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite last night on TBS:<br>1,010,000 viewers<br>P18-49: 0.40 (517,000)<br><br>Up 16% total and up 27% in the demo from last week's low rating.<br><br>�� More demos &amp; analysis: <a href="https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8">https://t.co/1SscdBCpr8</a> <a href="https://t.co/kq2N8ZgKGD">pic.twitter.com/kq2N8ZgKGD</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1496956280577138695?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh man they got to a million again! I thought for sure for sure they’d never hit 1 million ever again.

A millions a great number!

That is a bold and confident stand to take when they got a million by 10,001 Konnans :rofl:

Not a good number.

Lol, AEW All Out only did 205k buys.

1.75 million for RAW

205k PPV buys. Damn. Surpassing WWE’s pre-network PPV numbers.

Combined totals for WWE PPV in 2013 (before the WWE Network) was 6,194,000 buys. 12 PPVs make it an average of 516,176 buys.

Combined totals for AEW PPV in 2021 was 600,000 buys. 4 PPVs make it an average of 150,000 buys.

Conclusion, no not true. Stop believing Tony Khan Twitter Bullshit.

Source?

https://www.wrestleview.com/wwe-news...rates-in-2013/

https://wrestlenomics.com/resources/...-buys-buyrate/

Nice @ that number WWE got for Rock vs Cena! Dwayne Johnson is a star!

Also nice @ AEW drawing a bigger buyrate than a lot of WWE PPVs during their last year pre-network (as well as the last PPV pre-network.) AND getting their biggest buyrate to date!

But not REALLY nice because “Meltzersheep” or something.

4 PPVs a year means 205,000 would need to be spread out over 3 months to properly compare, so that is less than 70,000 buys for 3 months. The 3 lowest WWE PPVs that year combined is 487,000 buys. So again, 205,000 is not a lot of buys, especially with the caveat "across all platforms/including late buys". So not even all those 205,000 were at the $50 price, its cool though, they can make up the money difference by cashing another signed by Shad check.

Mmkay, apologies for praising AEW on their record buyrate and comparable numbers to WWE pre-network and making resident anti-AEW spaz #2 pop a blood vessel.

Trend more DOWNWARD, AEW. You retards.

Anyone who doesn’t understand the difference between running 12 PPVs a year and 4 is a fucking moron. Also, imagine what would happen to those numbers if WWE competed those 4 times a year. The apologetics for this foppish company are ridiculous.

Wrestling forum Droford weighs in.

please leave dear droford out of this

You were not praising AEW, you were ignoring context to misrepresent the buyrate number in order to criticize WWE's 2013 business for no real reason.

Providing context is not being whatever the opposite of a Meltzersheep is, it is simply providing context that no, AEW is not surpassing WWE's 2013 PPV numbers.

As for the rest, I would point out that your reply is a much better example of popping a blood vessel, it is nothing to get that upset about.

:lol:

Need the brains of this operation to weigh in.

Where’s TNARick dammit??

First insult, then redirect, well played. :roll:

You guys know Fan is Meltzer, right? Cuz it feels like you guys didn't know that.

DID TNARICK GET BANNED AGAIN!?!?

No he just disappeared and abandoned the GGI like a mark ass buster.

He doesn’t have that rep box under his rep bar. I assumed that meant he was banned.

A huge blow to the anti-AEW boyz if that’s the case!

what!? I demand an inquiry!

xrods math is right

Yes, he asked Triple A to ban him. I don’t know why.

Huge blow.

TPWW will never hit a million again.

6,194,000/12 = 516,167. :o

WWE should have run only 1 PPV that year. It would have drawn 6,194,000 on PPV and shattered the record.

Undeniable fact based on math.

id argue that fewer super cards would lead to larger buy rates. over saturation is def a thing. likewise 7 hours of tv a week or whatever leads an audience to very ok with missing a show but if lets say they had 2 a month? must see tv. less money obviously but strictly speaking for raw numbers on single night viewers the more rare the occasion the higher the turn out should be.


if aew ran 12 ppvs a year i bet theyd lose viewers not gain them. likewise if the wwf did weekly ppvs their buyrates would tank.

and while aew is growing i think 4 a year is about perfect

to the same point aew expanding to 2 shows a week this early seems like a huge blunder to me but seeing as they need the money i understand but i feel like it puts the brand in a really bad spot. too much too soon. its like going into a restruant that has 4 items on the menu. you know those 4 dishes are going to be excellent. beyond excellent. sublime. start expanding that menu and next thing you know your carefully curated menu, that youre an expert in making, is suddenly just things that are edible.

At some point I see AEW going to 6 PPVs and I think that will be the sweet spot.

Of course. My smarmy post above was more referencing how ridiculous it is to pull a theoretical number by dividing or multiplying for comparison. There are way too many factors. It’s ridiculous to just assume 2 extra PPVs in a 3 month period would split the buyrate evenly just like it is to assume cutting 3 down to one would triple it.

no no i get what youre driving at my point is at some level quanity is a factor. i agree its far from 1:1 though. however if the wwf were to have 4 ppvs a year i bet theyd get huge numbers comparatively to what they get with the current format. id wager each of the 4 would be wrestlemania esqu if built even half decent

but i def agree thats its absolutely not reasonable to imply that each veiwer is only watching 1 ppv a year and by going to 1 annual show you have some outlandish viewership which his math would suggest if taken literally

(but i don't think that was the implication either)


of course aews singular goal should be how can they get their own audience to purchase the ppvs. 200k+ is roughly 1/5 (depending on the night) of their tv audience. how do they get the other 80% of their fans to buy the big shows is the question they should be asking.

obviously a star is the smart play but also giving away less for free so frequently is another.

I like 4. 3 months is a good length to build anticipation. But especially with the 2 TV shows I feel like they’ll eventually run into the issue of having to over expose feuds and needing to get to that PPV payoff sooner. I’m surprised I haven’t heard about that issue happening more already.

LOL my fault, bad typing on my end.

Right, the implication was that AEW in 2021 was doing better PPV business than WWE in 2013. It is easy to cherry pick one number and make that claim, but that is ignoring everything else, like AEW's 3 other PPVs doing far less buys.

Just say 205,000 buys is AEW's best showing, all the other extra dressing to make it seem bigger than it is are unnecessary.

if it takes you 12 weeks to get x and it takes me 4 weeks to match x and i can repeat that consistently we arent in the same league. at all. i dont think aew could draw 205k monthly buys so saying its apples to apples is a bad take.


however in 3 years...couple of big names either made or bought...maybe we're having a different conversation. the rapid success of aew is fan driven despite kahns bankroll. this snow ball could very easily keep rolling.

I don’t even think a monthly PPV schedule would be bad. It would focus their aimless television more. Plus a lot of the same nerds would buy it. It would probably be more profitable.

Monthly PPV's don't feel "special" and feels like most matches you see on weekly television.


Even "The Big 4" don't feel special anymore, really.

Agreed. I love the 4 "big shows" a year. Really lets things play out before the big blow off match.

AEW bombed with Rampage yet again and tools are still trying to blame the news. :lol:

NXT at #70 Tuesday night w/ 551k viewers

966 ,000 for Dynamite

Game changing announcements just don't draw like they used to.

Its understandable with the war coverage on news stations like CNN, Fox and MSNBC that the ratings are a bit lower!

True, stupid other TV channels having things on, Dynamite could have got 150 million viewers EASY otherwise!

Just imagining all those people in 2022 who desperately wanted to watch Dynamite but just couldn’t because there was no possible way for them to keep up with the news other than watching cable from 8-10pm on Wednesday.

945 000 for Dynamite

Jeff Hardy and Regal don't equal ratings

Tony Khan has spent about $50 million since the last time they got a million viewers, 2 weeks ago lol.

ROH 40 Million
Swerve
Regal
Buddy
Redbeard
Hardy
Hardy's music
Paige Van Zant
Picked up Jericho's option
Resigned Miro for 4 more years

945,000 is a great number.

#1 for the night too

https://i.postimg.cc/YSDmVV4F/Screen...1-45-10-PM.png

Holy shit at 945k even with a post-PPV bump. Could it just be that this company isn’t in touch?

Better and better.

Another great number for Dynamite this week.

I could tell by your post that it wasn’t. :lol:

For those wondering: 993k

The Hardys fucking tanked. Massive drop of about 100k people for their segment. This followed the absolutely asinine booking of Sky vs. Wardlow too.

3 weeks in a row under a million, about time for Shad to write Tony another check for new toys...

That didn’t even work for this time. Diminishing returns.

Dunno if this belongs here, but somehow the YT upload of the Omos vs Commander Azeez match has almost 2.2 million views.....in 5 days.

An absolute banger of a match with a compelling storyline I’m sure.

lol not at all, but I think it might be pretty indicative of why Vince has always had a fetish for giants. Because I can't for the life of me figure out why that segment would be popular other than that people like watching hosses pretend to maul each other.

The fast nationals for Rampage will probably climb a little, but it was not good. 339k.

Rampage is just a “nothing” show at the minute. It’s essentially Velocity. It will be interesting to see what happens going forward with Tony’s attention split.

It’s very patterned. Predictability is not a bad thing, but this is so patterned there is no drama. And regardless of how you try to spin things or how good your intentions are, you are always going to have an A show and a B show. The one that is higher priority is the A show. That’s why it’s the A show. That’s Dynamite. Truth be told, ROH might even be #2 if they have the Sinclair spot.

398k for Rampage. Ouch.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dynamite: 1.05 million and 0.41</p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1507089295168847874?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ok but THIS was the last time they ever hit a million.

for real real

shut up fan. they are only .05 over a million which is fucking pathetic. Stop grandstanding.


STOP ENJOYING THINGS!

I’m enjoying AEW being over a million for the last time FOR THE LAST TIME!!! (RIP TNARick)

Look at this shill celebrating like they’re beating WWE. Why can’t they just say the number and leave it at that!?

Edrones are seething

Great number…

That this is considered a great number for Dynamite is hilarious.

Rampage all time low in its normal timeslot. The more money Tony spends, the lower the ratings go.

It’s good though. It’s the people that are wrong.