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James Steele 07-24-2012 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Damndirty (Post 3930625)
Alright, fess up James, we know you well enough to assume you shit your pants when Trips lined Lesnar outta the ring!




P.S.- I did when Taker showed!

Did something in my pants, but it wasn't poop...

Damndirty 07-24-2012 05:51 AM

:yes::y: it felt very unavoidable, yes?

James Steele 07-24-2012 05:51 AM

Also, I think DB will be much more successful as a face when he turns because he will be more comfortable on the mic and with his character. I am so happy than Daniel Bryan has been able to get over by simply having awesome matches and organic character development. His heel turn was probably the smoothest character progression I've seen.

James Steele 07-24-2012 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Damndirty (Post 3930628)
:yes::y: it felt very unavoidable, yes?

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com...5316981250.jpg

Damndirty 07-24-2012 05:54 AM

I seriously think DB, the Miz, and Ryback are some of the ugliest mofockos in the wrestling biz today, but so far, DB takes the cake as far as having his mug smeared more times than anybody else.

James Steele 07-24-2012 05:54 AM

Am I the only one who thinks Billy Gunn almost stole the show? WWE totally fucked up by not doing some backstage interaction with Billy Gunn and Dolph Ziggler. #MostUnderratedKingOfTheRingEver

jbizness 07-24-2012 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3930626)
DB's character as a face should be very similar to "Goofy Kurt Angle". Everybody loved Kurt Angle as the loveable dork badass rasslin' machine.

Haha, indeed. It's true, it's true! But isn't that why us dorky ass old wrestling fans appreciate Danielson?

Damndirty 07-24-2012 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3930632)
Am I the only one who thinks Billy Gunn almost stole the show? WWE totally fucked up by not doing some backstage interaction with Billy Gunn and Dolph Ziggler. #MostUnderratedKingOfTheRingEver

They do seem to have that likeness that Batista and Mason Ryan share, only Gunn looks a little older and I think he's a little bigger than Dolph.

Juan 07-24-2012 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3930576)

Awesome pic. I'm not The Rock's #1 fan, but I've always thought that the whole "Rock only comes back to put himself over" mindset was bullshit.

I guess it remains to be seen come the Royal Rumble, but this was good to see.

Damndirty 07-24-2012 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jbizness (Post 3930633)
Haha, indeed. It's true, it's true! But isn't that why us dorky ass old wrestling fans appreciate Danielson?

I was calling him Goatface before Punk said it! I should sue him for it! Eh.. too much work, I'll just sit back and watch and slam another shot.

Juan 07-24-2012 05:59 AM

#kneestofaces

James Steele 07-24-2012 06:00 AM

http://thehistoryofwwe.com/blog/wp-c...play_image.jpg
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1308197231
http://www.wwfchamps.com/images/KOTR/1999.jpg

jbizness 07-24-2012 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3930632)
Am I the only one who thinks Billy Gunn almost stole the show? WWE totally fucked up by not doing some backstage interaction with Billy Gunn and Dolph Ziggler. #MostUnderratedKingOfTheRingEver

Co-signed. DX stole the show entirely. A Gunn/Ziggs promo would've made that show a lot better. I'm just still fucking confused watching this. However, Dolph only gets mic time one time every year and he used it on Jericho

Damndirty 07-24-2012 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3930636)
Awesome pic. I'm not The Rock's #1 fan, but I've always thought that the whole "Rock only comes back to put himself over" mindset was bullshit.

I guess it remains to be seen come the Royal Rumble, but this was good to see.

I completely do not blame him for not wanting to sell for Cena. That was just those 9 yr old Cena fans on the bloody stinkin period talking when that came up.

Damndirty 07-24-2012 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jbizness (Post 3930641)
Co-signed. DX stole the show entirely. A Gunn/Ziggs promo would've made that show a lot better. I'm just still fucking confused watching this. However, Dolph only gets mic time one time every year and he used it on Jericho

Outside of that match, Ziggs really didn't do anything! I as well was bummed.

jbizness 07-24-2012 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Damndirty (Post 3930637)
I was calling him Goatface before Punk said it! I should sue him for it! Eh.. too much work, I'll just sit back and watch and slam another shot.

:lol: Same boat, buddy! Fuckin Mae Young! Cheers!

James Steele 07-24-2012 06:11 AM

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James Steele 07-24-2012 06:15 AM

I bet "Mr. Ass" regrets talking shit about Triple H in that shoot video now. Luckily for him, Triple H is a man of class, honor, valor, prestige, virtue, and forgiveness.

Damndirty 07-24-2012 06:31 AM

Aw, him and Trips are like brothers- of course they'll talk shit on one another at times, but everybody knows it's just a lil bullshittin here or there.

Corporate CockSnogger 07-24-2012 06:40 AM

James Steele steaming my gimmick.

Corporate CockSnogger 07-24-2012 06:42 AM

Re-watching a wrestling segment for the first time in like 6 years. That DX bit was brilliant.

Corporate CockSnogger 07-24-2012 06:48 AM

Lol only just noticed X-Pac tried to do his routine jump for the final pyro crotch chop but only got about 2 inches off the ground.

Cool King 07-24-2012 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3930494)
I don't agree with turning CM Punk heel at all. Basically throwing away all the hard work that they did to make him one of the most over faces in years. No one was even close to "taking over" Cena's spot but him. Now they are back to Cena and Cena alone.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4...nwco1_1280.jpg

Hanso Amore 07-24-2012 08:04 AM

Oh I forgot.

Remember Bryan's groomsmen?

They were orderlies.

Think if the wwe fans voted Yes Bryan would marry, then commit AJ?

#1-norm-fan 07-24-2012 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 3930689)
Oh I forgot.

Remember Bryan's groomsmen?

They were orderlies.

Think if the wwe fans voted Yes Bryan would marry, then commit AJ?

Noooo. They can't be booking the shows that randomly and spur of the moment.

Can they? :|

#1-norm-fan 07-24-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 3930669)

Sheamus is already getting a lot of Cena "We're sick of you" reactions so if that's what you mean by "Close to taking over Cena's spot..."

Hanso Amore 07-24-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3930695)
Noooo. They can't be booking the shows that randomly and spur of the moment.

Can they? :|

Not sure if you are being serious or not.

Of Course they can, especially when going with Fan votes.

Honestly with the way Vince loves social media, I wouldnt be surprised if they had 3 plans to close the show depending on how that Rock Royal rumble Vote went.

Autobahn 07-24-2012 09:49 AM

Holy crap - just figured out who Sean Mooney is. Amazing.

Daniel Bryan was phenomenal tonight. Not Billy Gunn phenomenal, but still pretty phenomenal.

Brigstocke 07-24-2012 10:21 AM

Best heel turn since NWO.

Big Vic 07-24-2012 10:25 AM

I also want to know whats up with those orderlies.

====================
I also predict punk to go full on heel at SummerSlam but not until then.

Hanso Amore 07-24-2012 10:36 AM

I dunno - not to be "THAT GUY" but you guys insisting he is "NOT FULL HEEL" are crazy.

Punk certainly turned heel. HE attacked the single most popular wrestler in the WWE. The Rock can show up at any point and have 20 thousand people chanting a new catchphrase he just rolled out. Anyone on the opposite side of the Rock is going to get the heel treatment.

So not only did he drop that attack, he did so after teasing shady tactics against Cena. The Announcers constantly put over that he should "HELP CENA" and not take advantage, which he slowly did. They have also teased him for the last few weeks being bother by not being the man nd being overshadowed by Cena/Lesnar/Rock

He then cheap shots the biggest face in the company (and slowly and methodically hits him with his finisher.) Then he slowly and dickishly leaves the ring without looking at the fans, with a mean scowl on his face, while the announcers say he turned his back on the WWE Universe.

That is a fucking Heel Turn Template.

Hanso Amore 07-24-2012 10:39 AM

Also at the idea that they are "wasting all the build they have done in making him a face for the last 8 months as champ". Meh, Thats garbage.

He goes from the number 2 or 3 face, to the top heel. That is certainly not wasting a build.

Now we have a Heel Punk as champ coming up on one of the longest reigns as champion of all time.

Yet fan boys still find a way to bitch about Punk not being used right.

We might just see Punk/Rock at Summerslam. If not at the Royal Rumble. Punk is going to be in the limelight like never before.

Big Vic 07-24-2012 10:40 AM

I think he is heel, just not Full on heel, I suspect him playing the tweener card next raw until SummerSlam.

Hanso Amore 07-24-2012 10:43 AM

Tweener is such a farcical stance.

He will be going at it with Cena or the Rock. Both Mega faces. He will be the Heel in that feud.

Hence he is a heel.

What would he have had to do to go FULL HEEL? Beat up Zach Gowan?

Hanso Amore 07-24-2012 10:43 AM

Apparently HEEL is like Super Saiyan with different levels and flavors. Punks hair will go blonde when he is full heel.

Hanso Amore 07-24-2012 10:44 AM

What entails being a FULL HEEL as well. This idea entertains me.

Hanso Amore 07-24-2012 10:45 AM

Cant stop thinking of Tropic Thunder

YOU NEVER GO FULL HEEL

Big Vic 07-24-2012 10:56 AM

I had to walk away from my desk because I started laughing.

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When someone turns at the end of a show people are left with a lot of questions like "Why?" Kinda of like when HBK Super-Kicked Hogan.

Next week Punk can play off the incident saying he's sick of rock stealing the spot light from the wrestlers in the back. That's not FULL ON HEEL. If he says he is sick of the rock and the people the people in this arena that's FULL ON HEEL. Unprovoked attacks also help deepen the Heel turn.

Most importantly if we see him with a longer beard next week then rest assured he will definetly be going...Full on heel

Big Vic 07-24-2012 11:00 AM

Miz isn't full on heel yet because he still has a tiny beard.

Hanso Amore 07-24-2012 11:03 AM

So you can only be a heel when your motivations are related to the Fans?

Better tell that to all those awesome heels driven by other things.

This is good to know.

So If I walk into a store and start robbing the register, I am not a Full Robber. But once I start robbing all the customer, then i am a full robber.


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