And with like the... 3rd blatant straw man, I have given up on you.

owenbrown. What wrestling related thing would you like to discuss in 100,001 replies?

I saw a black guy at the Ravens game that was otherwise a complete dead ringer for the iron shiek

I think the next person to post a bad porno like the Chyna and Nicole Bass ones should be banned for a year

Jim Brown was there?

Chyna might have started having a little bit of a career but it all ended when she left the WWF. The Chyna-bubble bursts just like her fake tits did. She put out a sex tape and was famous enough to get a porn deal. Howard Stern isn't even on the real radio anymore. The only reason he's relevant right now is because they chose him to be a judge on a shitty talent show.

Elvis was actually talented and Chyna was a fucking horrible wrestler. Everybody hated her because she worked stiff and now her partners do too. ;)

She might have been getting mainstream attention, but that was 15 fuckin' years ago. To be a main-stream celebrity you have to stay on TV, movies, radio. Porn doesn't count. Wrestling doesn't even count.

Next time you go out and see a stranger ask them "do you know who Shawn Michaels?" The people we think are famous are only famous because we watch wrestling.

You're wrong. Give it up.

Rodney Mack, Mo from Men on a Mission, New Jack and Alex Wright.

There's your new Nation of Domination.

Is there really a porno guy called Johnny Longschlong? Almost as good as Lance Hardwood.

Despite the WWEFBI's shitty music, I love Little Guido and Johnny The Bull. Can't believe a guy the size of Johnny and the dumb charisma he has never got properly over.

You are joking, right? I find the "No Sleep till Brooklyn" like theme to be cool.

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That's.... Not what it is. At least in May 2003 and before.

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That sucks.

Dolph Ziggler has been in the WWE for seven years! :eek:

I did not realize that Dolph's little brother is on nXt. Briley Pierce.

lol Briley. that's a gayer name than Dolph

Also Jake Carter is Vader's kid

Surreal Life happened after WWE as did most of her career outside WWE. You're demonstrably wrong. Give up.

Yeah, XM isn't popular or anything. Neither is America's Got Talent. You're a moron. Give up. Personal opinon on something being shitty = Lack of celebrity status... This is only the 5th or 6th time I've had that theory validated.

If that is true then the idea of Ryback as the next potential big or mega star might be a really short term plan since he'll be 31 in a little over a month from now. Although it also depends when the WWE actually bothers to start the massive push for that new top star.

Wouldn't be Ziggler either since he's 32 nor would it be Wade Barrett (32), Kofi Kiongston (31), Daniel Bryan (31), or the Miz (31). Ryder (27) and Cody Rhodes (27) actually fit the age range right now for current stars.

It seems like a guy has to be old to become a star now. Also, not sure why Cena's divorce is mentioned as a reason his time is coming up.

Guys on the WWE roster in their early to mid 20's...

Cody Rhodes
Curt Hawkins
Drew McIntyre
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Jinder Mahal
JTG
Trent Barreta
Zack Ryder

I don't think any of those guys could realistically be the "top guy". They'd have to bring someone in and groom him from the start the way they've groomed Ryback in his current gimmick.

The NXT roster is full of young guys. Can't really think of any of them that fit the mold either though.

Team Hell No and Team Rhodes Scholars tag team names suck.

"Team" anything sucks. It screams "makeshift tag team".

Also, Cody and Sandow are just weird together.

Team " " screams unoriginality. I blame Twilight.

Team Codswell Montgomery Sandow.

Deep & Dashing?

I'm usually good at coming up with team names. I'm at a loss here.

Drew McIntyre & Wade Barrett should form a "mutual alliance" on opposite shows where they dominate each brand and hold the respective world titles, they can even both have Regal as a manager...... there is your 2 next big stars.....you could then start building some secondary "American" stars who can use patritism to get over (see Kurt Angle, The Patriot, Duggan, Slaughter, etc.).....

Even if you could somehow make Drew McIntyre and Wade Barrett big stars, neither could really be the face of the company.

Though I like that they've given Barrett a little depth to his character.

hmm... next top star has to be in his 20s right now... honestly no one comes to mind. Kinda hope this is just a rumor as if it's true I see many unwarranted pushes in the future just to see if someone "clicks". Only guy with "the look" I can think of is Mason Ryan but I have no clue how old he is and honestly the guy has no business ever being in a main event.

Drew maybe but his mic work is horribad. Cody's too damn small and Ryder will never get that main event push so long as Vince is in charge.

Yeah most of the potential young guys are pretty small in terms of the typical type Vince loves or need a lot more development/work to be done.

Even Sin Cara who is meant to be the next Rey and star of the Latino market has no chance since he's 29 and probably would be 31 before he could even potentially starts reaching top status like Rey has.

Vince doesn't care about the IWC.

There's Big E Langston...

Nothing?

Bray Wyatt is only 25 and is goddamn amazing.

Not a face of the company though. An antagonist for the face of the company, definitely...

Isn't Big E black? And we all know Vince doesn't like the darkies. :shifty:

Bray Wyatt... name sounds familiar but I'm drawing a blank. I don't watch NXT anymore so....

why not? Barrett could easily.....

Oh he's Harris! Fuck yeah forgot about ol' Husky. From the little I've seen his new gimmick does seem pretty awesome, but he's definitely not face of the company material. I'd buy him as a top heel though.

Barrett could possibly pull it off, but the rumor is that they've gotta be in their 20s so that throws him out the window. Besides I honestly don't see a foreigner being the face of WWE anytime soon to be honest.

Time for Kenny Dykstra to make his return!

Currently have Fire Pro R running in an emulator pretty flawlessly for simming. Currently watching an 80s vs 90s elimination tag. Hogan, Savage, Flair and Sting vs. Austin, Rock, Taker and Benoit. No pinfalls yet at 30 mins. Currently a clusterfuck.

Also accidentally left the arena on the warehouse. The match of the century is happening in a CZW arena apparently, with no fans and two cameramen.

Update: Austin just Stunned Hogan, KOing him. One down.

Austin just Stunned Savage, KOing him. Two on four right now. Flair and Austin going at it.

Austin, Rock and Benoit all just tapped to the Figure Four from Flair within like three minutes game-time. Flair and Sting vs. Taker now. Taker just chokeslammed them both.

And Flair pins Taker after a punch at 53 minutes lol.

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I can see Wade Barrett as a good "bad ass babyface" ala Sheamus. Face of the company though, no. Hogan, Austin, Rock, Cena... Barrett? Sheamus could do it before him as he's more likable at least.

... What is this thing you're talking about? As an EWR/TEW fan I am intrigued...

Fire Pro Wrestling Returns.

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So it's nothing like EWR/TEW then is it? This makes me sad. I got excited.

No lol. Just has ridiculously smart AI for actually watching the matches instead of playing, really.

Yes, I'm that much of a nerd.

The depiction of SummerSlam 2004 was incorrect. As everybody remembers, it was WWE Champion John Bradshaw Layfield who defeated The Undertaker via disqualification in the main event.

Shortly after The Undertaker chokeslammed JBL through the roof of his limousine, a very excited Randy Orton along with a local unknown wrestler ran out to the ring, stumbled and fell-face first on the mat. Referee Earl Hebner would then reveal the missing big gold belt (which he was planning to sell along with his other fake WWE merchandise) and award it to Randy Orton. Howard Finkel immediately announced Randy Orton as the new World Heavyweight Champion. And that's that.


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If they are looking for someone to be that next Cena-level mega star, they wont find it. Sort of reminds me of the Bret Hart/Diesel era, where there was no Hogan and Austin was not there yet.

I wouldn't go that far. You can't see the future. They could find "the guy".

Perhaps the... USA GUY!?!?

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Not really. But they're there now. And they make the female audience feel "empowered" or something.

I have often thought that Derrick Bateman has a Cena-esque quality about him sometimes. As in over the top cheesy.

The Divas Division could actually be a huge part of WWE programming. TNA has had great success with female wrestling in the past. What the WWE lacks are distinctive characters and compelling storylines in the Divas Division. Plus, as "empowered" as the WWE tries to present their division as -- the Divas are still exploited as eye-candy. There's nothing wrong with the women being sexy, at all, but the WWE shouldn't be so fixed on that one type of female performer. Bring in some older female veterans and some less attractive girls that can wrestle. Hire maybe two joshi, have one earn a contract by beating the other and let the other go to NXT and work down there with some of the girls. She can eventually get called up to the main roster and feud with the girl that beat her originally.

Storylines for the girls is important, and I actually think the Divas Division would benefit if it had its own writer. It's hard to do that with other divisions, since the male talent roster is essentially pooled; but the females seem to exist, at least when it comes to in-ring stuff, in their own little realm.

True, but when you look at guys like Austin and Cena, you could see by the way they rose to the championship that they would be mega stars. Noone on the current roster shows that promise.

Wait, Sheamus is 35? :wtf:

*cough*Johnny Curtis*cough*

Every day Johnny Curtis is not on the main roster being groomed for something big is a day WWE is throwing away money.

This was amazing. Especially when he started shit talking juggalos.

The Main Event for the first episode of the new show "WWE Main Event" has been anounced... Ready for this? ...

CM Punk vs Sheamus

Umm...

It will probably be a clusterfuck ending of some sort and the show will revert to Superstars 2 after the first month or so of trying to use the major players to garner attention.

Still... fuck WWE for throwing this match away on the ION network.

AKA We really want you to watch our new show

We will see how it turns out on Tuesday or Wednesday. I was hoping they would continue teasing sheamus and punk and have it be a ppv match after one of them lost their title

I said a few weeks ago that one of the problems with PPVs was that we've seen every match because every match is given away on free TV nowadays so why pay for a PPV. For that reason they shouldn't have Sheamus and Punk do more than randomly cross paths on occasion but never get physical and then build it all up to a match.

The very night I said it, Punk vs Sheamus was booked for Raw and I was angry.

Then it was cancelled after Punk walked out on it and I was relieved.

Now it will be taking place on ION's "The Main Event".

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Option 1:
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Option 2:
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Option 3:
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Seems like they just "gave up" on coming up with a legit third option.

First two are both great. Can't decide.

They have people who are ready now/can be ready really soon without such a low age restriction. They wait too long for most of the guys they have, then go "Fuck it, it's too late for them, they're too old!"

WWE plays too much into the "franchise QB" philosophy to be able to find "that guy". What I mean is, how many #1 picks end up being the face of the football team and megastar passing machine? It's usually the 2-3rd round pick that nobody gives a shit about that steps up and becomes "the man" eventually.

With that, someone like a Ryback or Ryan being pushed to the forefront simply based on their age or look is kinda stupid. They're forgoing incremental builds, and "churning out" approximate 5 year money machines that can replace the last on the promise of trying to find that one guy who will make them rich for the next 15-20 years. They even proved this logic fallable by building who is now "the man", John Cena. They didn't think he was ready when he got the nod... he was just so damn over they gave him a shot, and that was because it was despiration time in finding a younger guy for that spot. Luckily, he had the ability and charisma to keep it rolling.

Then, they seemed to alleviate that issue by bringing in younger talent and building them slow. Pushes that could eventually make it believable that guys like Cody or Kofi or Dolph can be top-tier talent. Then, what happens? They get dropped into midcard hell or demoted to tag-teams that have no real consequence (Rhode-Scholars didn't need to happen... two guys who are pretty over enough as singles heels thrown together for no good reason... as opposed to two other singles competitors not doing anything that could be thrown together as heels for the sake of even getting on TV). Instead, of making touches to polish what they have, they sink time and effort into guys like that Tough Enough winner that we never heard from again (Levine? I really don't remember), or Jayne Cobb.. er, Jackson Andrews. They obviously failed, but boy, they were young and looked the shit for the 30 seconds they were around, didn't they?

Pretty soon, chasing that grail will put them back in the position they were a few years back, when the Cenas and Ortons- ironically, the "experiments",- were pushed because they needed guys to step in for the 'Takers and Rocks.

I actually like the 3rd option. Truthfully, I like a combination of 2 and 3. That "scarface" picture of Paul on 2 should be on option 3.

That, or make 2 a black shirt.

They haven't had enough interaction to take a match between them seriously. Hopefully this will go by and we can all forget they even had a match on a show that isn't raw or smackdown

Completely agree, I'm of the opinion also that when they do the tag match between the main event guys, usually the week before the ppv,they shouldn't even let the face and heel be in the ring at the same time.

this. Trish was the Messiah of the divas division and Mickie was her 2nd coming

Dunno, look at the success TNA had with the Knockout division, if they actually put any effort into the divas they might get something out of it. Not like they can't find the time to showcase them on Raw anymore. Same thing with the Tag Division.

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for James Steele.....

I'd buy the last one.....

The third one is the best in my opinion. Nice and clean. The other two are just... dunno. Maybe because they're white shirts with black print.

This made me chuckle.
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i cant see kane saying "bitch please"

Loving the concept of having a huge tournament to determine new WWE Tag Team Championship #1 Contenders. Reminds me of the huge ’02 SD! tourney for the then-SD! exclusive WWE Tag Team Championships (ya know, the ones that don’t look like somebody shat out a penny?)

2002 WWE Tag Team Championship Tournament - Round 1

Los Guerreros vs. Mark Henry & Rikishi
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Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Billy Kidman & John Cena
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Reverend D-Von & Faarooq vs. Billy & Chuck (note the incorrect “Reverend D-Von & Batista” name tag! :lol:
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Rey Mysterio & Edge vs. Brock Lesnar & Tajiri
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2002 WWE Tag Team Championship Tournament - Semifinals
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Rey Mysterio & Edge def. D-Von & Faarooq (Sorry, couldn't find a vid of the match :( ...)

2002 WWE Tag Team Championship Tournament FINAL for the WWE Tag Team Championship (and no, that is not redundant.)

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I like what they are doing with tag teams, at least on Smackdown. It finally gives the mid card guys some value.

Tag teams don't really draw money per se, but it adds to the overall enjoyment of a show. Creates less dead time. Pretty stoked for this tag tournament. Not a bad match in the tourny. Kidd/Gabriel vs Ryder Marella and Cara/Mysterio vs Epico/Primo should both have some nice spots and you can't go wrong with the PTP vs Kingston/Truth. I'm guessing Truth turns on Kingston after their match and PTP end up losing to Rey/Cara setting up a Rhodes Scholars vs Rey/Cara finals, which should be terrific.

This.

That's not Kane. His name is Gerald, and he's a waiter.

Also, watching those vids makes me remember how much I miss guys like Eddie, Chavo, Benoit, Kurt, Edge, and Tajiri. :(

WWE can have success with the divas division without devoting multiple segments to it. Like I said, there's a ceiling on their drawing power. Put some effort into making characters by keeping them relevant in storylines revolving around the guys as well while they aren't directly feuding for the title. They should exist in their own little world as far as wrestling but that doesn't mean they can't be a vital part of the show. But a diva is never gonna main event your PPVs and headline WrestleMania. It's a gimmick. Your main midcard roster CAN do those things. Spend the rest of your segments on making them intriguing.

Same with the cruiserweights. Let them exist in their own little world and have their own title to feud with and let someone like Tyson Kidd be "on top" technically. They can't realistically have the idea of Tyson Kidd main eventing PPV and headlining WrestleMania. Why not let him exist in his own world where he can be a "main guy"?

You've got two major segments a show completely devoted to an entire division. The rest is devoted to your main roster, guys on top, guys working their way to the top, etc. It's nice and neat and everyone's happy.

I'd say the problem with the Divas Division is that so few of them are integrated into the rest of the show. During the division's best period, a lot of the Divas were directly involved in the men's storylines--Lita with the Hardyz and later Edge, Trish with T&A or Jericho/Christian, Molly Holly with the Hurricane, etc. The fact that they had more presence on the show than "now it's time for our one Divas match where the face Divas all tag against the heel Divas" meant the audience was more interested when they were in the ring.

Shit, look at how over AJ has gotten since she was incorporated into the angles with Punk and Bryan and whatnot. Sure, she's kinda being shoved down our throats now, but she got over because she was actually included in the rest of the show, instead of just corralled into the token Division that they spend so little time pushing.

Like the front of the 1st shirt but like the back on the 3rd shirt

I think I have decided on option 2.

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Feed him more?

Breaking news: Rock hints at match with Ryback at WrestleMania!

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